I can't believe this crazy-ass blog has survived over 2 years! My first post was Dec 17, 2006:
And to explictly state what this blog is about: Bend Oregon Real Estate, whether it is or has been in a bubble or not, whether this bubble is/has burst, implications for residents, businesses and others, and just about any topic relevant to the Bend Oregon economy and the surrounding region, and housing in general. With unmoderated discussion, I suppose anything goes though. Hopefully, people will realize the value of staying on topic, and will minimize personal "flame-wars".
I was so much younger then. And naive. In fact here is a picture of me eating breakfast right after that first post:
And the greatest harbinger of things to come were the fanatastic 2 comments I received:
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Both almost bought a tear to my eye, especially the blog-spam one. Oh right, they were both blog spam. Here's a picture of me crying, I'm so overwhelmed:
My next post, the very next day, had precisely zero comments. I think I finished out the year with a post of such gut-wrenching emotion and tenderness that one commenter was moved to pen these touching words:
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this post is so dull that, after reading it, i wanted to claw my eyes out.
That's when I knew I had found my true calling: Inflicting pain on strangers via real estate blogging. Judging from the number of gouged out eyes I've seen in Bend, I would have to say: Mission Accomplished:
So there were humble beginnings. And most of the initial postings & comments were of a "defensive" nature: Even the idea that Bend was in a Bubble was widely derided as Insane. And there were some people who even denied (Bubble deniers) that a nationwide Bubble existed. Remember that?
Cuz, if you really remember that time, and contrast it with today, and what has transpired since, it just seems unbelievable. Bend was still caught in just an endless euphoria about the future. Bend is Immune was the mantra.
- deep, now closed, hadn't even opened way back then.
- Sally Heatherton had not yet been "born".
- Forum Meadows owner turned down ALL auction "offers" for his sacred Bend homes, before going broke.
- Brooks resources blew out their River Wild condos at Mt Bach Village.
- Yarrow & Ironhorse hadn't begun sales.
- The collapse of the home builders stock prices was as bad as anyone thought it'd get.
- No Bend developers had committed suicide.
- At the time Columbia Aircraft was alive & well.
- No layoffs at Brightwood.
- Seaswirl still alive.
- No firings at City Hall.
- Fannie & Freddie in the in the $70's.
- The DJIA had yet to hit 14,000, and fall to the 7,000's.
- CACB hit $32 in the last week on 2006. Now $6 and change.
- The Shire was still the proud brainchild of The Hatchery.
- Becky Breeze still owned The Plaza.
- Residential sales in Bend were in the hundreds per month.
- Medians hit $396,250 in May 2007.
- BendBB had not yet stricken any of my comments.
- Buster had not called any of us Stincking Smelly Cunts.
- I had not yet uttered, "It will get worse than you can possibly imagine."
- People actually Raised their asking prices back then. Really!
- That Olive & Nut store had yet to open & close.
- I had not yet voted Dunc for Mayor.
- We barely knew what SubPrime is, and no one knew what Alt-A was.
- Citicorp was still the largest financial org the World had ever seen.
- No bailouts of banks, automakers, or anyone else.
- Lehamn was still alive & kicking. Smith Barney too.
- No Cessna layoff's locally yet. The buyout was a "huge success".
- Unemployment was below 4% in Bend.
- Not a one Single Family Home was below $100/sf in Bend. No a single one.
- I had not yet lost my bet to BendBB that medians would go below $300K.
- Renaissance Homes was still smitten with Randy Sebastians flesh-eating AIDS.
- Holtz-Tek had not yet blackmailed our fair city out of Millions for JR "Master Plan".
- BEM had not yet penned his "cure" for Broken Bend.
- I had yet to post my first Picto-Plummet.
- I had yet to introduce into our lexicon the terms "Cali-Banger", "STD's" or "Flipper Bait".
- The Oregonian had yet to run "Death and Specualtion in Bend".
- Pronghorn & Brasada were still above the fray, and "selling out" on Day 1.
- Volo was still a glimmer in Bledsoe's donkey-cum-encrusted eye.
- The WSJ had yet to expose man-birthing or clothesline propoganda to the World.
- The ferris wheel blackmail of Broken Top had yet to occur.
- Bend was still in the grips of Tuscan mania.
- The Redmond water park would save us all from Central Oregons terrible seasonality with high-paying lifeguard jobs.
- We did not yet know that NOW is "The best time to buy in 20 years".
- Bend was still the most overvalued city in the country.
- Baby Jeebus had not yet smited us.
- I had not yet declared Bend the Best 3rd World City ever.
- Trono's Mercato had it's Australian financing All Lined Up.
- Norma DuBois had sold out Franklin Crossing for the 18th time.
- Measure 37 made every hillbilly Oregonian farmer a land baron.
- Tiny Ashwood OR took the prize for most ambitious housing development: 5,500 homes in a town of 120 people.
- NAR economist David Lereah still encouraged the financial merits of home ownership.
- Crook County had not yet approved resort properties that would saddle the area with 75 years of inventory.
- We didn't have a fleet of busted BAT buses.
- The city hadn't lost multi-million dollar lawsuits regarding water systems and whatnot.
- The August 2006 inventory top was still "temporary".
- We still hadn't been shown how to get rich losing millions by Don Bauhofer (aka Bauhumper).
- The Incredible Hulce continued to pander to RE developers in her completely discredited rag.
- We were yet to be introduced to the merits of Capstone Turbine Buttplugs.
- We were yet to receive a lesson in thermodynamics by a dude who dragged a tire behind his car to power his car, a guy who turned water into gas, and a company that turned trash into fuel.
- I had yet to recommend Rent & Invest The Difference as The Only Investment Plan you could be sure of in a place like Bend.
- There were many, Many businesses, largely invisible, that were still open, that have vanished in the meantime. Most mortgage brokers are in this category.
- Re/Max was still open. So was Sunriver Realty.
- COBA, COVA & the rest hadn't BOUGHT our City Councilors election for pennies on the dollar.
- My prediction of a collapse in California RE was still widely ridiculed: "California is Immune."
- 1031, Merenda, deep and other accessories of wealth for Bend's elite still held their glistening facade.
- NOD's were not measured in the THOUSANDS here.
- We had yet to have our first 1,000+ comment week.
- The City was not perilously close to bankruptcy.
- Black dudes were known for beatin' they wives, smokin the cracker, fuckin, and shootin whitey, not being President.
And there is probably more. Much more. The point?
It's been a hell of an eventful couple of years. Most of the real crazy shit has happened in the last 6 months. I mean The Giants of The Financial Universe have been hobbled.
I guess my main point is this: Having seen how far we've come, how people like Jody Denton's business eyes were too big for their stomach, you might want to exercise some restraint. Because this thing is, AT MOST, about half over.
We have gone from $396K medians to $239K, that's down 40% from top to bottom. Another 40% down is Very, Very Easily possible, which would take us down to $143K.
Folks, when we hit medians in the $140's, and it will happen, Bend is not going to be a place that about 70-75% of the population even recognizes. The old codgers will, but it will be the 4 Bees that rule the roost: Butter, Beans, Bullets, and Bullion.
This place will be like a hyper-magnified version of much of the US. We aren't going to sink back into the Stone Age, like some have posted here (IMO), but we will NEVER return to the hyper-consumption-fueled prosperity of the past 3 decades. That time is over.
But you'd do well to read into Denton's comments about What He Is Doing Now.
He's Leaving Bend, and He's Leaving Oregon.
“I had a very long and prosperous career before I came to Bend,” he said, “and I’ll do what’s best for me and my family. It will definitely be outside of the state of Oregon.”
He's telling us something.
When all is said and done, Bend, In The Best Of Times, left this very talented & decent person, completely broken. Broken financially yes, but worse, just broken from the experience.
“Getting to this point has been stressful and difficult,” the chef said. “For my wife and myself, there was a sense of relief once the decision was made.”
Once you make the decision, once you realize that you can stop fighting the impossible battle, there is a Huge Sense Of Relief. Denton is a talented guy, a guy with resources, a guy with a plan & the ability to execute: And this place broke him.
And I have to give him credit for one of The Best Lines Ever from a Bend Businessman quoted in The Bulletin:
“But the question became: How wise is it to keep feeding this thing when all it does is eat?”
I will leave it at that.
958 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 958 Newer› Newest»I never said bike events would fix a damn thing, it's just why I chose to live here, as well as most of my friends. If the downtown is 1/2 boarded up, oh well. As long as there is still a place to get good beer, a place for good coffee, trails to ride, and some guys faster than me on the road bike to chase I'll be happy. I'm going to be fine.
And the reason I brought up COTA is because there is a big difference between them and COVA, etc.. COTA is the reason I'm here, not the others. Read what I said.
If you think the for profit outfits like Pronghorn, Crosswater, and Brasada are bad, then just check out the non-profits. They are the really bad ones, yep., yep. Non-profits = pure evil.
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I think what crushed the Pearl District in PDX was the Mount Hood Jazz Festival. Those non-profits are killers.
Did COTA just complete the mountain bike trails around Sisters?
The Peterson Ridge trails have greatly expanded, and are revitalizing all of the "Sisters Country" RE and hotels/motels and tourist shoppes.
Tim,
That place has been leeching shit into the ground for 15+ years. Wells are very deep. I have tested a few within a mile of the site a couple years back although not tested for formaldehyde. It sure had a funny yellow tinge to it. We thought no one out there flushed the toilet but it was the water.
News Release
For release: January 2, 2008
Contacts:
Jeff Ingalls, Hazardous Waste Program, Bend, (541) 388-6146, ext. 238
Jeff Bachman, Compliance & Enforcement, Portland, (503) 229-5950
Phil Hodgen, Communications & Outreach, Pendleton, (541) 278-4609
DEQ Issues Pre-Enforcement Notices for Multiple Environmental Violations at Powell Butte Property
The Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) has issued two Pre-Enforcement Notices to North Bend resident Dennis Beetham, owner of D.B. Western Inc., a company that owns and operates formaldehyde and urea-formaldehyde manufacturing plants, for hazardous waste, solid waste, air quality and water quality violations that occurred on his Cinder Lake Ranch property at 1299 NW McDaniel Road in Powell Butte.
The DEQ Eastern Oregon Hazardous Waste Program issued an initial notice to Beetham and D.B. Western on Sept. 21, 2007 following DEQ inspections of the property in late August and early September. DEQ then issued a second notice to the parties on Nov. 28, 2007 after documenting additional violations during remediation activities at the property that took place beginning in October.
Violations identified during the first inspections included: failure to make a hazardous waste determination; illegal disposal of hazardous wastes and industrial solid wastes in an unlined cinder pit; operating a hazardous waste disposal site without a permit; placing wastes where they were likely to enter state waters; and open burning of prohibited materials including industrial process wastes. As part of corrective action outlined in the first notice, Beetham and D.B. Western were to notify DEQ within five days of their intent to clean up the site.
Cleanup activities that began on Oct. 4, 2007 at the site have generated hundreds of tons of urea-formaldehyde resin waste and industrial process solid waste that was disposed of at the Chemical Waste Management site in Arlington, Oregon. The remediation activities also uncovered the illegal disposal of hundreds of tons of federally listed hazardous waste formaldehyde from commercial manufacturing of formaldehyde in plants outside of Oregon, plus more than 1,000 tons of illegally disposed of solid waste from burn pits and contaminated cinder from the urea-formaldehyde resin chemical disposal.
Hazardous and solid waste violations documented during the remediation process led DEQ to issue its second notice to Beetham and D.B. Western on Nov. 28, 2007. This notice outlined the following violations: failure to comply with land disposal restriction regulations; failure to comply with hazardous waste transportation and hazardous waste manifesting requirements; failure to properly label and date containers of hazardous waste; operating a hazardous waste storage facility without a permit; and operating a tire storage and disposal facility without a permit.
All of the violations cited in both notices could pose a risk to human health and the environment. Accordingly, they have been referred to DEQ’s Office of Compliance and Enforcement for formal enforcement action. Formal enforcement action may include a civil penalty for each day of each violation. Timely and responsive action in addressing the corrective action measures will be taken into consideration in any civil penalty assessment issued by DEQ.
The notices stipulated corrective action timelines that D.B. Western has cooperated in meeting. The remediation activities have corrected the majority of the violations; however, DEQ has asked for D.B. Western’s continued cooperation to assure continued compliance. For additional information, contact Jeff Ingalls at DEQ’s Bend office, 300 SE Reed Market Road, Bend, OR 97702-2237 or (541) 388-6146, ext. 238.
D.B. Western will host a public meeting in Powell Butte to discuss the issues in an open forum. Although a specific date has not been determined, the meeting is planned for early to mid-February 2008. For updated information concerning this meeting, contact attorney Rick Martson, the D.B Western representative, at (503) 802-2005.
(Note: When DEQ identifies a serious violation of state laws or regulations, it issues a Pre-Enforcement Notice to inform the responsible person or business that a civil penalty will likely be issued.)
We thought no one out there flushed the toilet but it was the water.
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Welcome to BEND-ORYGUN Pardner.
It ain't the snow that's yeller.
If you think the for profit outfits like Pronghorn, Crosswater, and Brasada are bad, then just check out the non-profits. They are the really bad ones, yep., yep. Non-profits = pure evil.
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Yeh, pay NO FUCKING ATTENTION to BEND 10k+ non-profits. Yeh, lets' see I think I'll pull something called 'deddle, dole, and daddle' out of my ass, but before that I'll call it an IRS non-profit. Then I'll pay myself $100k salary, cuz I'm into into this shnott for the money hell no. Then when I'm done I'll call myself "Zion Mistries", and call that a religious non-profit, and provide trips to Israel for 'christians', ... then I'll have idiots paying me to go see my sic granny in Israel, and I'll have cash they I don't like laying around by the ton, and hell while I'm at it I'll hire the best lawyers and caps in Bend to create 100's of non-profit LLC's all in their name, so I never run out of non-profit gigs in BEND ORYGUN.
Pay no fucking attention to BEND tax dodges of any kind.
Signed, mother of all 1031's.
Real estate is still cheap, but the fine restaurants have yet to be fully established. Maybe that's where Denton will sprout up next.
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Sheet how about Denio, OR?? or Fields, OR, ... or McDermott, OR, these places are bargains.
I can get shit for a couple $100/acre, want to invest?? Hey homer the next BEND??
I brought up COTA is because there is a big difference between them and COVA, etc.. COTA is the reason I'm here, not the others
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Thank you very much, nobody said that COTA was COVA, that's your shit.
COTA build's trails, and doesn't have a fucking thing to do with BEND-INC PR&MARKETING AKA cova,coba,&cora.
That said, last year folks from vegas&reno were selling mtn-bike trips out of there, up here to float down from mt-b to phil's, and COTA raised a stink.
The problem is COVA with it owning the 'outside magazine' and promoting BEND mtn-biking, has made bend mtn-biking cuz of of COVA PR so fucking popular that out of state folks are trying to steal from the local's, can't have that can we, ...
It's all a HUGE fucking kluster-fuck, that is BEND, COTA didn't make BEND famous, a KUNT name BOB-WOODWARD aka HBM-SORE made BEND MTN-BIKING FAMOUS, and that BROUGHT the Tard's by the fucking busload, and they're still coming.
FUCK all the BEND BIKE EVENTS, they're only about bringing in tourists, and local bike shops selling to fucking idiots that read outside-magazine.
I think what crushed the Pearl District in PDX was the Mount Hood Jazz Festival. Those non-profits are killers.
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The pearl while NOT fucked yet, will die like MERENDA, too many 'high end' in a low-end economy.
Only one real place in the pearl, and that be "low brow".
On the wall they have the classic, "Want a free taste of our beer??, Go lick the bathroom floor".
"Yeah, lets all crap all over Chuck Kenlan next, founder of Mount Bachelor Sports Edu Foundation. MBSEF is what they named our very own Mount Bachelor (nee Bachelor Butte) shortly after it erupted over 25,000 years ago, so Chuck predates Smitty and all the Brooks Crooks. I think he must be just like Boss Hog Bill Smitty, or Brooks Resources."
He's the Exec Director, not the founder but I good guy none the less. Chuck is good people and good for Bend. I don't know if they get money from the city for PPP(I would hope so for all the friggin effort and the business that event brings in) or the Cascade Classic (Important event but not the huge out of towner draw like PPP) but I will ask.
To the guy who says he's staying as long as there is a place to grab a good beer and trails to ride bikes on....That's exactly it, not everyone came for the boom, the fake boobs, Bledsoe's company, 40 Billion acres of golf. Some people just like it here because of everything this place has to offer. The weather is great for a ski town, the biking, hiking, skiing, fishing, hunting, boating, camping are all great. If you are someone who needs someone else to provide entertainment for you, Bend is probably not your place. Need some culture, go to the city.
People will leave but Bend won't die. We'll all be a little better off once the kook factor is cut in half. You used to be able to tell touron's by the cars they drove but not that they have actually moved here well, "it just bombards the senses"
Mount Hood Jazz Festival.
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MT-Hood Jazz for the same reason as BEND, or the PDX-Bite, or Summer Blues ... or anything else.
Back in the 1980's Mt-hood jazz was sweet, but then the city of gresham decided to do a COVA-BEND, and marketed the shit out of it, and brought in national acts, and best of all raised the price from $10/person open grass seating, to $100/private seating, ... well everybody quit going.
Best of all like all geniasses, once the sales dropped they quit letting people bring their own wine, and started searching people, and selling WINE for $20/bottle, and that was the kiss of death. Then everybody quit going.
NON-PROFIT?? Always the same, starts off small, then some KUNT like BEND-FILM-FEST trys to make it into a SUNDANCE, and nobody can afford, and then nobody comes, and its game-over.
Non-Profit, tell that to every fucking ADMIN of the club who collects the six figure salary, shit there are more non-profits in bend than for profits, because in Bend for-profit is a fucking joke, like DUNC says 'best min wage job, for profit'.
Non-Profit you pay no taxes, and pocket all the fucking money.
Yes, pay no attention to non-profit.
good guy none the less.
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Denton is a good guy, and a wonderful father.
Audia was the best kind of guy.
Dorn was a great guy.
Dr. McDonald was a wonderful ER doctor.
So fucking what? It gets pretty fucking SICK here in BEND when HBM has to defend the old fucking guard that is responsible for making Bend go from 20k population to 80k.
ALL these fucking SPORTS events, and COVA promotion of BEND was always to sell condo's, but hell everyone here is a great guy.
Everyone at Westside Church says that neuman, lyons, stevens, ... they're all great guys.
The road to hell is paved with great guys, so fucking what.
You know these LIB shit heating parasites of BEND have ran out of fucking depth, when they have to say "Ignore that RE pimp, cuz he's a good guy".
This water story about Pronghorn & Brasada is all innuendo, the well water south of Powell Butte, is as clean as the effluent coming out of Suterra, and I'm talking Bend clean.
"but I will ask."
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PPP is a net add to the Bend economy.
City of Bend pays nothing, gains much $$$.
Whine on, buster.
Brie?
Chuck is good people and good for Bend.
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Chuck and Bob Woodward, were NOT good for Bend.
What they did is turn a little desert ISL into a a rat-race of promotion and marketing. Where every two bit hustler on the West Coast was told that Bend was the next gold-rush.
Did they find GOLD? Hell no they found Golfing, Biking, Fishing, Hiking, .... SO they (COVA taxpayer $$$) paid Golf-Mag, Outside-Mag,... to write endless articles, and they promoted endless events, until finally people could say ...
"BEND is the best place to bike in the world, and nobody laughed"
So they came, and came and came, and they promoted endless events, cuz they worked.
Now BEND is in the biggest slump in over 20+ years, and whats the solution?? To 10X the BIKING EVENTS, shit we all know that GOLF is fucking dead, but hey let's saturate the fuck BIKE seen until its dead. Let's make fucking mtn-biking SO fucking popular that people will pay $100/day just to fucking park at Phils trailhead. HELL YEHH.
So on it FUCKING GOES.
I SAY FUCK YOU TO CHUCK, and BOB WOODWARD, and HBM, and AARON, and all the pimps that PROMOTE BEND to be a fucking TOURIST fucking TRAP.
It's great when Porkchop opens his mouth about every subject.
Not everyone can be an expert on all subjects, but we all are most likely an expert in a few.
Porkchop can spew and spew about everything and some day he will spew about something YOU are an expert in. You will then realize he is full of shit.
It isn't much of a stretch to realize he is full of shit on every subject.
PPP is a net add to the Bend economy.
City of Bend pays nothing, gains much $$$.
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BULLSHIT COVA is paid by taxpayer and markets the SHIT out of piddle, pee, and piss.
It's one of the biggest fucking events in the year, and brings in 5,000 people, its one of the biggest things for the infamous $498M COVA tourism annual revenue.
Yeh, pay NO FUCKING ATTENTION to the real BEND.
GOLF is DEAD, now they want to KILL BIKING.
SOON there will be bike trails every where, there will be PRONG-HORN MTN-BIKE developments, there will be so much BIKE shit that we all vomit from bikes, ... then finally someone will say like GOLF, its not fun anymore, ... then what?
It's great when Porkchop opens his mouth about every subject.
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Hell, its great when 'special pussy', can resort to generality's, cuz he has the fucking mind of a Bend Realtor, or less.
Porkchop, is an expert on very few subjects, I hate TV, I hate sports, and I hate PR&MARKETING people.
I hate the people that have PR&MARKETED little BEND and turned it into god damn fucking disneyland.
If you think porkchop is a know-it-all, then its ONLY cuz you be a know-nothing.
Brie?
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Homemade bread, Oregon Blue from Ashland, and a Great Divide 'Yeti', thank you very much.
What is bad about having cycling promoted more than Golf? When a Golf course comes in there is an STD around it, way too much money lost in SDC charges, environmental degredation, and a bunch of stuck up pricks.
Cycling requires none of that. So what if they only buy burritos and bike tubes? Give me good 10 cheap restaurants and 2 good ones downtown.
And so what if all the Tourons ride Phils? That's why I avoid Phils every weekend between May and October. There are so many more places to ride in the area. Edison, now Wanoga, Swampy, there are few tourons on COD and Storm King. Then drive to Oakridge, the Ochocos, Mackenzie River, Umpqua river, etc.. on the weekend. Let the tourists have Phils, it's not much of a loss.
If the downtown is 1/2 boarded up, oh well. As long as there is still a place to get good beer, a place for good coffee, trails to ride, and some guys faster than me on the road bike to chase I'll be happy. I'm going to be fine.
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There you go common ground. Before 2+ weeks ago I had gone mtn-biking everyday since March.
Now I go xc-skiing every fucking day, and I'm already tired of the fucking cold.
I never get tired of road biking and mtn-biking, but lets be honest from November to April there is not a lot of biking here. I don't like ice-biking out in Millican on the roads.
Sure I can head for to Moab in Mar/Apr, that's always sweet on the slick-rock.
The real biking here is like April-Oct, this year I was able to do Mrazek until early December, very rare.
I just don't like all the fucking people.
Let me tell you a little STORY GOD-DAMN FUCKING KUNT 'super pussy'.
Back in the 1970's I used to climb at Smith Rocks almost every fucking day, and then in the 1980's they made it famous, and then in the 1990's all the good climbs/routes started having fucking LINES, just like YOSEMITE, and I QUIT fucking climbing @ Smith in the mid 1990's.
Now I see the same thing with the mtn-biking, you GOD DAMN FUCKING SELF PROMOTERS that run these fucking non-profits and fucking bike shops, and COVA, ... your going to turn all of the bike areas into fucking LA traffic BULLSHIT.
Then YOU bitch & moan 'super puss' cuz their ain't no developed single-track out near baker-city. That is how its supposed to be you fuck head fairy.
When a Golf course comes in there is an STD around it, way too much money lost in SDC charges, environmental degredation, and a bunch of stuck up pricks.
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I'm a fucking dirt-bike rider, and mtn-bike, and free-style.
YOU GOD DAMN FUCKING LIBERAL assholes have shut down ALL our desert riding of moto-cross, ...
The actual damage of MX and MX-B isn't that much different, if you think a STD that is also a BMX course isn't a fucking mess post rain, an a environmental shit-hole your crazy.
The problem here for all MX, BMX, sport-climbing @ smith, the problem with ALL is there are TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE.
But you fucking KUNTS just want to bring MORE in and once their here, they're sold condos so they can be close to the trails, or golf, or climbing,
The fucking problem is the events, they are what bring in the grifters.
"Then YOU bitch & moan 'super puss' cuz their ain't no developed single-track out near baker-city."
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SP go back to Provo and keep on sucking on Robert "Sundance" Redford's wanger.
You poseur POS wannabe punk slick rock biker cross-trained out skier twintip dude.
PS My word verification was: ubaloser
Let the tourists have Phils, it's not much of a loss.
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Its OBVIOUS that your CHUCK himself, but its ALSO obvious that you have never put in a DAY with COTA digging trails in your fucking life.
There 100's and 100's of man-years of labor by working volunteers, and you fucking GOD DAMN bike shop owners and non-profit promoters would like nothing more than to GIVE PHIL's to the TOURISTS.
Trouble is you fucking KUNT, you didn't build phils.
You can't give to the tourist what is not yours to give,
ALso what are we going to do, tell the tourist they can't go where the locals go?? FUCK YOU
You don't know what the fuck your talking about.
But one thing is clear, and that is you are a fucking GRIFTING BEND OUTDOOR PROMOTER MR FUCKING SIMPLE-PUSSY
So fucking what? It gets pretty fucking SICK here in BEND when HBM has to defend the old fucking guard that is responsible for making Bend go from 20k population to 80k.
I am not HBM...that's for sure.
Like I said, Chuck is good people. If you know his deal, you know he's not getting rich living here.
As for cycling in Bend...it's been here for a long time and there have always been a lot of bike events in Bend. Nobody is going to kill cycling.
Buster sure fuckin whines a lot. Exactly what is it that you do for your community Buster. How do you give back? Just give us a little taste of your generosity to the community.
It looks like the child trollers, have finally found BB2.
We'll a couple days they'll move on.
nah, we've been here all along...Bitch.
>but its ALSO obvious that you have never put in a DAY with COTA digging trails in your fucking life.
Incorrect, as usual.
COTA knows that Phils is for tourists. It's the way that it was planned. Ever notice it is the easiest, least technical trails near the trailhead, and harder trails further away? That's the DESIGN. The DESIGN is to make it so tourists don't get hurt, and anyone who knows anything about the trail system will go somewhere better. It's been that way since the forest service and COTA came to the agreement that COTA would be the trail stewards.
ALso what are we going to do, tell the tourist they can't go where the locals go?? FUCK YOU
It's not saying where the tourists can't go, but saying where they don't. If I go on one of the busiest weekends up Sweede Ridge and down South Fork I may see three other groups of people, and I probably know two of them.
Chuck is a good man... I know personally.
No newbie here, I been here b4 BP.
Too many peeps here.... less so in BC, but hey, lets not go publicizing where the good little towns are, okay? Enuf with the BCity stuff, send them to Moab with the Pussy cousins.
Anonymous said...
ALso what are we going to do, tell the tourist they can't go where the locals go?? FUCK YOU<<<
Fuck you back and all the A**holes who have written about Bend in the "Past 20 of the Best". All forms of recreation in Bend has been ruined by all the blabber mouths and greed mongers that could schill and hawk Bend to make a buck. It has always been about money and always will be...soon the Bend raping MF'ers will be dried up PR cocksuckers with one thumb looking for a ride and the other stuck you know where.
Cut the ropes off Smith Rocks, take out the docks and lake access. Gone are the days of shitting along the Deschutes as way toooo many ruined it and left all their trash as well. Every Fucker that moved to Bend had 3 dogs that left Poop on the trails..why can't we have unleashed dogs in the woods? Cuz there are toooo many. Now you even have to carry out your horse shit. Bend has changed and not in the least for the better, you MF'ers.
GO NOW AND DON"T LOOK BACK!!! What don't you understand about, Don't let the gate hit you on the way out.
Signed,
Tom McCall
Baker City is nice and there are some fun trails at the ORV park. Big berms, jumps, crazy canyon with banked walls. I always enjoyed racing there. The wife won't move any further from the coast than we already are or we'd probably be there already.
If the downtown is 1/2 boarded up, oh well. As long as there is still a place to get good beer, a place for good coffee, trails to ride, and some guys faster than me on the road bike to chase I'll be happy. I'm going to be fine.
There's something weird about grown (?) men who devote their lives to playing with children's toys.
>There's something weird about grown (?) men who devote their lives to playing with children's toys.
There's something weird about people who have forgotten the joys of pursuing an activity for no purpose other than to have fun, be in better shape, be social, live longer and have a competitive outlet that is better than a pissing match on some fucking blog.
Chuck, Molly, Kathy, Fred, Nils, etc. are all good people who are by know means getting rich keeping kids occupied with sports.
Boy, somebody got their fucking ANGRY drink on early today.
Tourism is one spoke in the strong wheel. We need a few more spokes than tourism and development. Personally I like the big events, the downtown crits, the free summer afternoon concerts at LS. And like someone said above, just ride a little farther and you won't see many tourists.
fuck--"no" means.
Most of MBSEF's programs revolve around kids and sports. It's good stuff. The big stuff, PPP and Cascade Classic, pay for those. And the kids get worked in there, too.
I handed out the medals to the fastest kids from four to twelve who had their little races at the final day finish by Summit High last summer. I love seeing kids having that much fun doing something healthy. Win or lose.
From BEBB, catefory funny:
Quote:
The CH-11 bankruptcy still doesn't prove this is true.
Lane Lyons is that you? Please return my calls I need my money.
Fuck, I can't type tudaY...
Yes, Timmy, it drives me nuts, too.
hbm:>There's something weird about grown (?) men who devote their lives to playing with children's toys.<
There's something weird about people who have forgotten the joys of pursuing an activity for no purpose other than to have fun, be in better shape, be social, live longer and have a competitive outlet that is better than a pissing match on some fucking blog.
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Absolutely!!
HBM is what be wierd.
And fat...
And lazy....
And bald.....
And ugly.....
And liberally opinionated, to boot!!!
If I had a picture of hbm, it would be the last photo of this week's blog post, with a bald, white-man's face attached to her body!!
bruce said...
Chuck, Molly, Kathy, Fred, Nils, etc.
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Hey, why'd ya go an leave out Danger Dave, Pat, Mikee, Hans, Jake, ... ?
They are good people.
And speaking of good people, that Rathbun guy is starting to actually make some inroads into the MB culture. People see problems up at MB the last couple of weeks, they get the word up to him, and he actually makes shit happen. For the better... for the customers. MB still does too much stuff poorly, but you gotta notice that their is some good change happening there.
Most of MBSEF's programs revolve around kids and sports. It's good stuff. The big stuff, PPP and Cascade Classic, pay for those.
MBSEF is certainly good for Bend. I know it must be hard for the drunk, fucktards to realize what MBSEF actually does for the community.
I have to say that Bend has changed for the worse and I don't mind watching it roll backward a a decade or so. Those were some good times...three amigos, evil sister, smoked monkeys...ya, bring it.
Sure beats City Club, Hummers, and tanning booths.
Danger--what a fucking character, eh? The master at dye marking. And Hans, the man of few, but severe, words.
We're still wondering what the fuck happened with Ben.
It's nice to hear Rathbun may actually be making a difference. They've had a bad week at the worst time. It's so fucking windy up there I can't figure out why they don't put up a few towers and call themselves green. Be good karma for them.
From Israeli media, Haaretz, the "liberal" paper:
And there lie the bodies
By Gideon Levy
Tags: israel, gaza, hamas
The legend, lest it be a true story, tells of how the late mathematician, Professor Haim Hanani, asked his students at the Technion to draw up a plan for constructing a pipe to transport blood from Haifa to Eilat. The obedient students did as they were told. Using logarithmic rulers, they sketched the design for a sophisticated pipeline. They meticulously planned its route, taking into account the landscape's topography, the possibility of corrosion, the pipe's diameter and the flow calibration. When they presented their final product, the professor rendered his judgment: You failed. None of you asked why we need such a pipe, whose blood will fill it, and why it is flowing in the first place.
Regardless of whether this story is legend or true, Israel is now failing its own blood pipeline test. As Israel has been preoccupied with Gaza throughout the entire week, nobody has asked whose blood is being spilled and why. Everything is permitted, legitimate and just. The moral voice of restraint, if it ever existed, has been left behind. Even if Israel wiped Gaza off the face of the earth, killing tens of thousands in the process, as a Chechnyan laborer working in Sderot proposed to me, one can assume that there would be no protest.
They liquidated Nizar Ghayan? Nobody counts the 20 women and children who lost their lives in the same attack. There was a massacre of dozens of officers during their graduation ceremony from the police academy? Acceptable. Five little sisters? Allowed. Palestinians are dying in hospitals that lack medical equipment? Peanuts. Whatever happened to the not-so-good old days of Salah Shahadeh? When we liquidated him in July 2002, we also killed 15 women and children. At least back then, moral qualms were raised for a moment.
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Here lie their bodies, row upon row, some of them tiny. Our hearts have turned hard and our eyes have become dull. All of Israel has worn military fatigues, uniforms that are opaque and stained with blood and which enable us to carry out any crime. Even our leading intellectuals fail to speak out on what havoc we have wreaked. Amos Oz urges: "Cease-fire now." David Grossman writes: "Hold your fire. Stop." Meir Shalev wants "a punitive operation." And not one word about our moral image, which has been horribly distorted.
The suffering in the south renders everything kosher, as if the horrible suffering in Gaza pales in comparison. Everyone is hungry for revenge, and that hunger is excused by the need for "deterrence," after it was already proved that the killing and the destruction in Lebanon did not achieve it.
Yes, I know, war is war. After all, they brought this on themselves. They are a terrorist organization and we are not. They want to destroy us and we seek peace. Still, is there nothing here that will stop this blood pipeline? Even those whose hearts are hardened by "moral righteousness" will have to momentarily halt the bombing machine and ask: Which Israel do we have before us? What will become of its standing in the world, which is now watching the events in Gaza? What are we inflicting on the moderate Arab regimes? And what of the simmering popular hatred we are sowing throughout the world? What good will emerge from this killing and destruction?
It is doubtful whether Hamas will be cut down to size as a result of this wretched war. Yet, the face of the state has been cut down to size, as have civilian elites who are apathetic and scared. The "peace camp," if it ever existed, has been cut down to size. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz authorized the Ghayan killing, regardless of the cost. Haim Oron, the leader of the "new left-wing movement," supported the launch of this foolish war.
Nobody is coming to the rescue - of Gaza or even of the remnants of humanity and Israeli democracy. The statesmen, the jurists, the poets, the authors, academe, and the news media - pitch black over the abyss. When the time comes for reckoning, we will need to remember the damage this war did to Israel: The blood pipeline it laid has been completed.
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Not that you would ever read such a viewpoint in the good old USA, especially the BULL.
Dr. McDonald was a wonderful ER doctor.
I drove by The Shire today... very sad. Weeds everywhere. It already looks 30 years old, landscaping has gone to hell.
"The Shire II", the little chunk to the North has apparently gone conventional, and has 2 show homes already. They remain empty.
I remember having arguments about the Shire. No one I talked to would live there, but they all had a weird cousin, uncle, college roommate, or neighbor who would "fit right in."
Invariably, it turned out that these misfits were broke, as they have no interest in money.
There's something weird about people who have forgotten the joys of pursuing an activity for no purpose other than to have fun, be in better shape, be social, live longer and have a competitive outlet that is better than a pissing match on some fucking blog.
Yeah, I knew I'd draw down the fury of the local Peter Pans with that comment.
Pursuing an activity for fun is great; everybody should do it. Making it the focal point of your life is weird -- at least if you're older than 10.
HBM is what be wierd.
Maybe.
And fat...
Nope.
And lazy....
Somewhat.
And bald.....
Please, it's "balding"!
And ugly.....
That's all in the eye of the beholder.
And liberally opinionated, to boot!!!
Guilty a charged!
Pursuing an activity for fun is great; everybody should do it. Making it the focal point of your life is weird -- at least if you're older than 10.
pfft...shouldn't you be sipping wine and eating cheese right about now?
"Road Fags" is what we call 'em.
"Pursuing an activity for fun is great; everybody should do it. Making it the focal point of your life is weird -- at least if you're older than 10."
Unless you are rich and retired. Can't wait to go set crab pots when the season arrives. For the fun and food of it
Pursuing an activity for fun is great; everybody should do it. Making it the focal point of your life is weird -- at least if you're older than 10.
pfft...shouldn't you be sipping wine and eating cheese right about now?
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You're assuming he can pull his fat ass off the couch.
OREO Offer's LIBERAL-PUSSY's $800B in PORK, hoping that PUG's will bite eat his shit.
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The Wall Street Journal
Jan. 4, 2009
President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats are crafting a plan to offer as much as $310 billion in tax cuts to individuals and businesses, a move aimed at attracting Republican support for an economic-stimulus package and prodding companies to create jobs.
The size of the proposed tax cuts -- which would account for about 40% of a stimulus package that could reach $775 billion over two years -- is greater than many on both sides of the aisle in Congress had anticipated, and may make it easier to win over Republicans who have stressed that any initiative should rely relatively heavily on tax cuts rather than spending.
Most of MBSEF's programs revolve around kids and sports. It's good stuff. The big stuff, PPP and Cascade Classic, pay for those.
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Jeebus XMAS, MBSEF''s programs revolve around FAG's that will never have children, who ride $25k bikes with custom components.
GO SPREAD YOUR FAGOTRY ELSEWHERE.
There's something weird about people who have forgotten the joys of pursuing an activity for no purpose other than to have fun, be in better shape, be social, live longer and have a competitive outlet that is better than a pissing match on some fucking blog.
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So why are you here?
Us old dickhead porkchops were doing just fine, for years before you young bucks showed up to lecture us about how ride a bicycle.
No newbie here, I been here b4 BP.
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Jeebus xmas ducn ned flanders suck my limp cock, a tard that's been here before august 2007, who would have guessed??
what is a "Jew by blood"? What makes you think I am a "Jew by blood"? Is it my big hooked nose? My thick lips? My low, sloping forehead? There are no Jews in my family tree.
You say there are no Jews in your tree, but you have all the characteristics. You sure your mother wasn't fucking a Lawyer, CPA, or Doctor before you were hatched?
There are ton's of Jews in my Tree.
I'm a direct descendant of Joseph Smith, who is a level five descendant of Lord Moroni.
We are gods chosen people, the Mormons and the Jews.
Honestly if your still potent, you have the seed you lips, nose, and sloping forehead is like gold within the mormon church.
There's something weird about grown (?) men who devote their lives to playing with children's toys. - hbm
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An old Jew suffering from atrophy wouldn't understand but I think its always BEND true.
"He who ends up with the most toys wins"
"He who forgets how to play with toys loses"
HBM lost a long time ago, emotionally, physically, intellectually, and spiritually.
Today he is BEND, a rotting corpse of commercialism, where the idea of fun is taking a SORE/BULL check to the bank for deposit.
We love the pussy for what he has been since Aug 2007, why does he now have to be the 'Special Pussy', or try to be like the 'Simple Pussy'.
What happened to our original 'Bruce Pussy'???????
"Road Fags" is what we call 'em.
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On behalf of all men who have been voluntarily castrated, I find the term 'road fag' to be quite derogatory.
In the day our Homer would not tolerate such slander.
We are the beautiful men of Bend, we ride our $30k or more road bikes made of carbon fibre, and built with the finest components that CALI can sell. We CUM to BEND to ride, and butt fuck other like minded men.
'Faggot' was term we left a long time ago. We're in BEND now, and we're called Bend Metro Sexuals.
So please correct your language, and lets go riding.
>"Road Fags" is what we call 'em.
Just more ignorance and hate.
The WORST being cycle Oregon. Every time I jump in my Hummer to drive somewhere for vacation, these SOBs are ALL OVER THE ROAD.
>> Just more ignorance and hate.
Oh God, the HATE word. ALERT ALERT ALERT!!! Get the thought police in here pronto.
Hehe, the word verifaction string is: entagies should be antagies (snicker)
Lets get the fuckin spandex out of the mountain bike trails too! WTF? I've had the argument many times, Spandex does no good on the fucking trail it just makes you look like a type A faggot road biker.
The Real "SP" you fucks!
Lets get the fuckin spandex out of the mountain bike trails too! WTF? I've had the argument many times, Spandex does no good on the fucking trail it just makes you look like a type A faggot road biker.
Tell it to Phil : o
Better yet, tell it to Thomasberg!
WTF? Does the Bull have a Business section anymore? I didn't see it. What I saw had a piece on "pulsars".
When I was a kid, the only saddle that you would see a man in Central Oregon in, had a horse under it. Now-a-days, you see these boys riding around on bikes, wearing those nuthugger pants, with their sweaty scrotilia dangling off the pleather seats. Some kinda funky urban/cali ritual. Shit, they stand up and have camel toes, just like woman. Shit boy howdy!
HELP! I'm being attacked by anti-Semitic neo-Nazi mountain bikers in Spandex!
Bend bikers:
http://jannawong.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/power-rangers_turboranger.jpg
Bike Faggot Ryan Speaks Out
ST: Talk about how the rest of the cross season has been going for you so far?
Ryan: Oh! That’s a tough one. Right after nationals I flew to Belgium and have been racing ever since. First two races didn’t really go so well, but my legs are feeling very good and I am hoping that the last 4 races I will have something to show for it. It is hard over here. Everything has to click for you to have a good race. And sometimes putting the pieces of the puzzle together isn’t so easy.
ST: From your experience racing cross in Europe, what have you learned?
Ryan: That those dudes are FAST! It is not a huge difference, but it is enough to where they get 15sec of recovery and I am at my limit then they punch it again and it is all I can do to hang on sometimes. The gap is narrowing between the US riders and the rest, but it is still a bit. I can compete and race with the best of them, just not at every race. That’s what makes someone like Sven Nys impressive. He is always at the front no matter if they are sandy races, hilly races or muddy races. He is good. But each year I come back here I learn more and more about how to make things work for myself. There are only a few small pieces that I need to work on.
ST: Does cross racing in the US even compare?
Ryan: Not really, it is getting better though but the courses are different. Most of the races we do in the US are usually on manicured grass courses, here in Europe they are just in some random field and they are soooo bumpy. I like how much more difficult the courses are here, really makes you have to be good at handling your bike to do well. The US cross is improving every year, promoters, racers, spectators everything is stepping up a notch. Hopefully things continue to improve.
ST: What is your favorite race course?
Ryan: I really liked the Zolder WC this year even though I sucked ass at it. I tend to like races that are technical and sandy but you still have to pedal hard.
ST: How friendly are the top guys guys like Sven Nys, Lars Boom and Bart Wellens etc?
Ryan: Vervecken is probably the friendliest to me and I guess the others I just don’t know so well. They pretty much do their thing at the race and I do mine so there isn’t much interaction between us.
ST: Do you hang you with any of the Europeans or do you mostly spend time with Americans when over there?
Ryan: Most of the time with the other Americans I am traveling with, but over the years I have made some very good friends with some Belgians over here that I keep in contact with throughout the year.
ST: Talk about the food and spectators in Europe.
Ryan: The food is what it is, you always prefer the food you are used to and Belgium is definitely not known for its cuisine! But you can get by for 1-2 months at a time anywhere, so we just make do with what we got. The spectators are pretty funny, they definitely have their favorite riders that they cheer for and no one else, or maybe they just aren’t cheering when I go by. (who knows) I think it is about 50-50 cheers and heckling I get at the races.
ST: If you had to pick either mountain biking or cross racing and you had to give up the other, which one would you choose and why?
Ryan: I would never give up cross racing, I just love it. It suits my talents more and I really just enjoy racing it. I do like the mountain biking, but cross just feels better to me for some reason.
ST: Do you have any words of wisdom for people who might consider racing cross?
Ryan: No words of wisdom just get out there and try it. Ok well, maybe one bit of advice. Try letting some air out of your tires, I never run more than 31psi. It is amazing what difference a few pounds of pressure makes.
ST: How much road riding/racing are you doing these days?
Ryan: I do a fair bit of road racing in the summer. Luckily in Oregon we have some great high level road races in the Mt. Hood cycling classic and the Cascade classic. So I don’t have to travel all over the US to get the road racing stimulus I am looking for. Most of my racing during the summer though is on the MTB with Kona.
ST: What other sports do you enjoy?
Ryan: I do a fair bit of XC skiing and snowboard in the winter but my off-season is short. Does car racing count?
ST: Well, what car racing do you like?
Ryan: Any type, I just like the sound of a high strung internally combusted engine running through its gears.
ST: What is your athletic background?
Ryan: Don’t really have one. I have been racing bikes since I was 14yrs old, and played some soccer in high school in my younger years. But I have been riding the bike for a long time now.
ST: Define a hard training week for us.
Ryan: Well, you know that always depends on what’s going on. Right now we are racing 6 times in 2 weeks, so mostly its just keeping sharp during the week with shorter more intense workouts. I am the kind of person that really benefits and needs to do more hours than most people. For some reason I always feel sharper for a race if I do at least a 4hr ride the day or 2 days before. During August is when I put the most amount of both volume and intensity into the training to get ready for the CX season.
ST: What do you do to overcome a disappointing race?
Ryan: Not very much actually. As much as I would like to, I know I can’t win every race. Some days you are good and some days you are bad. It is when you get a block of 3-4 weeks when you are just riding like crap that it starts to bother me.
ST: How are things going for you in terms of sponsorship?
Ryan: I am excited to be with Kona again for 2 more years. It will be 7yrs after this contract is up. That’s a long time with one program. But I really enjoy the company and all the employees are awesome people. Plus they make some of the best bikes around and they are as far from corporate as possible.
ST: Do you even have an off-season?
Ryan: I do, I usually don’t do much in Feb. Which is good, because that is when all the good snow storms happen in Bend, OR (where I live) and the skiing is good. But it just makes those first couple of races in March hard when everyone has been training for months and I have been for like 5 days as the case was last year.
ST: Do you follow any other sports?
Ryan: Mostly just cycling. Even if I wasn’t a pro cyclist I would still ride bikes and be a fan of the sport. It’s an amazing sport I think.
ST: Can you share with us some of your food likes and dislikes?
Ryan: I love toast, ask anyone who knows me. That’s all I want for breakfast, toast and coffee. Good coffee though, like the stuff from Stumptown in Portland OR. Other than that I will eat pretty much anything. Can’t beat Thai food though.
ST: What is your music taste?
Ryan: Most people would probably say bad!!!
ST: What was the last book you read?
Ryan: “A long way gone” memoirs of a boy solider. Pretty good read
ST: Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
Ryan: Hopefully still wearing this CX national champs skinsuit, or another one that has different kind of stripes on it.
ST: Is there anything else we should know about you?
Ryan: I am not always as grumpy as I appear to be! Well that’s not true, I probably am.
The Real "SP" you fucks!
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HEREIN we have a new Moniker for 'SP'.
It's Spandex-Pussy.
Move over BP.
"Just more ignorance and hate."
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Every time I see that sentence only "H Bowel Movement" comes to my mind.
ST: Ryan, is it true that you squat when you pee?
Ryan: Absolutely.
WTF? Does the Bull have a Business section anymore? I didn't see it. What I saw had a piece on "pulsars".
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Homer, Do you ever pay attention? The BULL killed Mondays biz section long ago.
Rumor is that soon the BULL will only contain biz one day a week.
I never said bike events would fix a damn thing, it's just why I chose to live here, as well as most of my friends.
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The significant FACT here is these GOD DAMN FUCKING COVA induced BIKE-EVENTS are what brought the majority of LIBERAL-SHIT-EATING-KUNTS that piss on this ROCK to Bend.
Thus killing the 'bike events' and COVA, is critical to returning BEND to a quiet and simple little town.
Why do 'EYE' hate LSEK's ( liberal shit eating kunts )??
They are the ones who have been dirt bike riding.
They have banned dogs off leash in the summer.
They have banned dogs from skiing with us North of Century Drive over ten year ago, ...
Every fucking major change done to Bend is/was by the LSEK's.
The #1 way to bring about the extinction of LSEK's is to shutdown COVA which promotes their events, and feeds them.
There are no jobs in BEND, but most LSEK's make $100k or more promoting their 'non-profit' endless bike rackets in BEND. Take away COVA PR&MARKETING and you put them all out of biz, and they BEND leave.
There are many places that 'spandex-pussy' can ride and wear tight pants in order to find boyfriends. Let's just not make it Bend, Orygun.
COVA finances all the Outside-Magazine Editorials about what a great ride it is in BEND, but remember 'Ride' is code for Butt Fucking.
They are the ones who have been dirt bike riding.
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Whoop's they have "BANNED" dirt bike riding.
( A real man's sport. You never see faggots ride dirt-bikes, hell faggots hate mud. )
ST: Ryan, is it true that you squat when you pee?
Ryan: Absolutely.
[ FYI: ST is Spandex-Trudy ]
ST: Do you even have an off-season?
Ryan: I do, I usually don’t do much in Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, or Mar. Which is good, because that is when all the good snow storms happen in Bend, OR (where I live) and the rock skiing is good. But it just makes those first couple of races in April hard when everyone has been training for months and I have been for like 5 days as the case was last year, or this year, or the year before, or next year.
Re: What happened to our original 'Bruce Pussy'???????
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I'm here. The fake pussy is doing a good job of fooling you all. Plus he is posting 20 times as often.
Don't get me wrong I love biking, all biking.
I just hate to see our sports destroyed, the way they destroyed Smith Rocks.
The PR&MARKETING and non-profit blood sucking parasites of this town have a tendency to destroy anything they touch.
It probably goes with a place like Bend, where the only real way to exist is to have made your money elsewhere, and know how to keep it.
Then there are those who move to BEND, and try to make a buck, so they PROMOTE the place to 'tourists' for Rafting, Biking, Golfing, ... endless sport, like Cali's aren't fucking smart enough to do these things any where ( maybe true ).
So these fuck-heads come to BEND, and say "I WANT TO LIVE HERE, but there are no jobs", so they create one, and then you have the "BEND FILM FESTIVAL", and with CITY money takes a life of its own.
There are so many fucking parasites in this town on the City Teat, or non-profit TEAT, remember every non-profit is a parasite on the system, because they're NOT paying their fair share of taxes.
Goes like this. You have a CALI grifter, board-dude, or bike-dude who can't find a job, and moves to BEND, but finds out he can organized 'events', and get paid to play with OPM, even better COVA,SORE,BULL will PR&MARKET that event cuz its win-win for everybody to bring in tourists to buy condos in BEND is ASS-PEN.
FUCK BEND EVENTS, and FUCK AARON&HBM the king of BEND-EVENTS.
The fake pussy is doing a good job of fooling you all.
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The fake pussy, is way more 'real' Bruce Pussy, than the pussy.
It's the BP that has gone fake on us.
What do you call a rumor in BEND that always ends up true??
We got to develop a word.
BP,
Do you think you'll report the water well deal at powell butte on your JR site??
MP
A trumor.
Got one?
A trumor.
Got one?
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That's good, now we need to vote.
Anybody want to second? APU can you do better? Hom, Lav, Quim??? Marge?
Good Comments on the BULL about the 'Bend-Economy' note this guy is from Sisters, and tears into the BULL ... GOOD SHIT ...
Dear Mr. Moore,
Wow, that was funny! The majority of Bend area business people that you interviewed are completely delusional and still believe that this depression is all about psychology. That if people hear enough good news, things will get better. Well, sorry to smash the looking glass, but here it comes Alice...
Retail vacancies in Bend are at just below 5%, watch what happens over the next 30 to 60 days as that number climbs to over 10% (there's too much retail in Central Oregon). Office vacancies are now at around 20%, watch as that number climbs to closer to 40%. The majority of jobs in this area are (in order of magnitude), retail, construction, real estate and professional services. Our real unemployment rate is already at 10% and climbing fast. Those folks that were employed in the retail sector for the Christmas season are now going to lose those jobs... The stock market will plunge over the next 60 days as 44% of hedge fund investors pull what's left of their money out of those ponzi schemes...
Our local $2 Billion in assets bank has a Texas Ratio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_ratio) of 31, not great... and home prices and commercial real estate values will continue to drop another 25 to 40% this year... Over 60% of their loan assets are tied to real estate.
You could have just gone to a mental institution and conducted the interview there... it would have achieved the same results, total fantasy.
People just don't seem to want to "bite the bullet". We just finished the biggest debt party in history and boy was it a big fun time!!! Now it's time for the hangover... hangovers tend to last about half as long as the party did... well, we had a 10 year party, so you go figure it out.
I've had about enough of this Norman Vincent Peale, power of positive thinking stuff... Just report the truth as news, you know the way it was done back in the days before your Editors doubled as your Advertising Directors... I'm guessing there were more pessimistic opinions out there, you just picked the "happy talkers".
Andrew Gorayeb
Sisters, Oregon
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The Texas ratio is a measure of a bank's credit troubles. Developed by Gerard Cassidy and others at RBC Capital Markets, it is calculated by dividing the value of the lender's non-performing loans by the sum of its tangible equity capital and loan loss reserves.
In analyzing Texas banks during the early 1980s recession, Cassidy noted that banks tended to fail when this ratio reached 1:1, or 100%. He noted a similar pattern among New England banks during the recession of the early 1990s.
Economy? Debate the Economy? You can't handle the Bend Economy.
Bank failures to surge in coming years
IndyMac, Corus, UCBH under pressure as credit crunch slows economy
By Alistair Barr, MarketWatch
Last update: 6:27 p.m. EDT May 23, 2008
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- By April, Gary Holloway was almost three years into retirement.
He'd built a new home by a lake in Texas, bought a boat and was working on his golf game. While taking on some part-time work, Holloway also traveled for months across the U.S. with his wife, from Seattle to Washington D.C., catching up with old friends and family.
That life of leisure abruptly changed about six weeks ago when Holloway got a phone call from his former employer, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., or FDIC, which regulates U.S. banks and insures deposits.
Holloway, a 30-year FDIC veteran, had worked extensively with failed lenders in Houston during the savings and loan crisis in the late 1980s and early 1990s, when thousands of thrifts collapsed.
Earlier this year, the FDIC began trying to lure roughly 25 retirees like Holloway back to prepare for an increase in bank failures. It's also hiring about 75 new staff.
Holloway quickly went back to work. ANB Financial N.A., a bank in Bentonville, Ark. with $2.1 billion in assets and $1.8 billion in customer deposits, was failing and an expert like Holloway was needed to value the assets and find a stronger institution to take them on.
"I was very excited about coming back," Holloway said in an interview. "I'm now 57. There's still a lot of life left and the juices are flowing again."
On May 9, life for ANB ended when the FDIC and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, another bank regulator, announced that the lender was closing. See full story.
Only three banks have failed so far in 2008. But that number is set to surge as the credit crunch slows economic growth and hammers some lenders that grew too fast during the recent real-estate boom, experts say.
The roots of today's banking crisis grew out of the boom and bust in the real estate market. Lenders originated more and more mortgages, while other banks, particularly smaller and medium-sized institutions, ploughed money into construction and development loans.
'You don't avoid the problem. It's too late to wait and hope that things get better.'
— Joseph Mason, Drexel University
While loan growth soared in 2004 and 2005, most regulators failed to scrutinize many banks or restrain this heady expansion of credit. Now that the loans have been made and delinquencies are climbing, some banks may already be doomed.
Marriages and managing
"At this point in the crisis, you can't stop bank failures," said Joseph Mason, associate professor of finance at Drexel University's LeBow College of Business, who has studied past financial crises.
"At this point you manage through failures and arrange marriages where another stronger bank takes on the assets and deposits," he said. "You move through the problem. You don't avoid the problem. It's too late to wait and hope that things get better."
Things may get worse before they get better.
At least 150 banks will fail in the U.S. during the next two to three years, according to a projection by Gerard Cassidy and his colleagues at RBC Capital Markets.
'There has been excessive loan growth and some banks won't be able to access capital markets to replace the money that will disappear as credit losses rise.'
— Gerard Cassidy, RBC Capital Markets
If the current economic slowdown deteriorates into a recession on the scale of those from the 1980s and early 1990's, the number of failures will be much higher this time around -- probably as high as 300 of them, by RBC's reckoning.
That's a massive surge compared to the recent boom years of the credit and real estate markets. From the second half of 2004 through end of 2006 there were 10 consecutive quarters without a bank failure in the U.S. -- a record length of time, Cassidy notes.
"This downturn will trigger a significant amount of bank failures relative to the past five years," he said. "There has been excessive loan growth and some banks won't be able to access capital markets to replace the money that will disappear as credit losses rise."
Texas Ratio
Cassidy and his colleagues have developed an early-warning system for spotting future trouble at banks called the Texas Ratio.
The ratio is calculated by dividing a bank's non-performing loans, including those 90 days delinquent, by the company's tangible equity capital plus money set aside for future loan losses. The number basically measures credit problems as a percentage of the capital a lender has available to deal with them.
Cassidy came up with the idea after covering Texas banks in the 1980s. Until the recession hit that decade, many banks in the state were considered some of the best in the country. But as problem assets climbed, that view was cruelly challenged, Cassidy recalls.
The analyst noticed that when problem assets grew to more than 100% of capital, most of the Texas banks in that precarious position ended up going under. A similar pattern occurred in the New England banking sector during the recession of the early 1990s, Cassidy said.
Along with his colleagues, Cassidy applied the same ratio to commercial banks at the end of this year's first quarter and found some disturbing trends., a San Francisco-based bank, saw its Texas Ratio jump to 31% at the end of the first quarter from 4.7% in 2006, according to RBC.
The Texas Ratio of Colonial BancGroup , based in Montgomery, Ala., jumped from 1.5% in 2006 to 25% at the end of March.
Sterling Financial Corp. , headquartered in Spokane, Wash., had a Texas ratio of 1.9% in 2006. It was nearly 24% at the end of the first quarter, RBC data show.
These banks are no where near RBC's 100% critical threshold, and several lenders have raised new capital since the first quarter. For instance, National City Corp. topped RBC's list with a Texas Ratio of 40% at the end of March, though the bank did raise $7 billion in new capital in April.
"But these ratios have skyrocketed in recent years," Cassidy warned. "If that trend continues, some of these banks may be in trouble."
CD signs of stress
Other lenders are already in more dire straits.
IndyMac Bancorp a large savings and loan institution and a leading mortgage lender, is one of Cassidy's biggest concerns, with a whopping Texas Ratio around 140%.
(part 2; texas ratios)
Bank failures to surge in coming years
IndyMac is finding it much tougher to package up and sell the mortgages it originates in securitizations. That used to be a major source of new money for the company to turn around and use in further lending.
When lenders need to raise new capital, they can try to boost deposits by offering attractive interest rates on certificates of deposits, or CDs.
IndyMac is currently offering the highest rates on one-year CDs, according to Bankrate.com. Others in the top 10 include Corus Bankshares , Imperial Capital Bancorp and GMAC bank.
When Countrywide Financial was struggling last year, its federal savings bank unit began offering some of the highest CD rates in the U.S. to build deposits.
Bank of America has since agreed to acquire Countrywide and it didn't make it onto Bankrate.com's list of top 10 CD rates this week.
"These banks that are challenged for liquidity are having to go out and pay up in the market for CDs," Joe Morford, a colleague of Cassidy's at RBC, said.
Imperial Capital stopped paying dividends earlier this year. GMAC, owned by leveraged buyout giant Cerberus Capital Management and General Motors , is struggling to keep its Residential Capital mortgage business afloat.
Corus, offering the fifth-highest rates on one-year CDs, had a Texas Ratio of nearly 70% at the end of the first quarter, up from 9.1% in 2006, according to Morford.
Construction loan destruction
Corus is also highly exposed to types of loans that some experts worry will be the next major source of losses for banks after the mortgage meltdown.
Construction and development, or C&D, loans made up 83% of the Chicago-based bank's total loans at the end of 2007, according to RiskMetrics Group.
This type of loans helps to pay for things like the building of real-estate development projects and the construction of office buildings.
Small and medium-sized banks found it difficult to compete with large lenders in the national markets for mortgages and other consumer loans. So many focused on C&D loans because this type of financing relies more on local, personal connections, said Zach Gast, financial sector analyst at RiskMetrics.
As the real estate market boomed, C&D loans did too. A decade ago, bank holding companies had $60 billion of these loans. That number is now $480 billion, according to Gast, who also notes that C&D loans are almost never securitized, so they're held on banks' balance sheets.
Such rapid loan growth usually creates trouble later. Indeed, delinquencies represented 7.1% of total C&D loans at the end of the first quarter, up from 0.9% at the end of 2005, Gast said.
"It's a huge increase. Most of the deterioration seems to be coming from residential construction projects, but certainly there's deterioration in commercial projects too," the analyst said. "The rate of deterioration is still accelerating."
Colonial BancGroup had 37% of its loans in C&D loans at the end of last year, while Sterling Financial had 33% and UCBH had 20%. East West Bancorp , a rival to UCBH, is also exposed, with 25% of total loans in C&D assets at the end of 2007, RiskMetrics data show.
Regulators
Where were regulators when these banks built up such large exposures?
That's a question RBC's Cassidy has been asking himself, noting that "they dropped the ball in a big way." Officials at the FDIC declined to comment.
Efforts by the Securities and Exchange Commission to make sure banks report accurate earnings may have made the situation worse, Cassidy says.
Bank regulators try to encourage institutions to build reserves in good times, so they're ready for downturns. But the SEC has been worried that banks might use reserves to smooth reported earnings, so it advised some lenders that they couldn't set aside reserves if they weren't experiencing commensurate credit losses, Cassidy explained.
That left reserves relatively low at the end of 2007, as the credit crunch was building momentum, Gast said.
Still, regulators have responded strongly so far this year. In addition to the FDIC's efforts to bolster its staff, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency has been telling banks to boost reserves even if accountants worry that such steps will stray from SEC guidance, Gast explained.
Crisis redux?
The FDIC had highlighted 76 banks that it considered troubled at the end of 2007. That's up from 50 at the end of 2006, which was the lowest level for at least 25 years.
Once identified by regulators, troubled banks are often required to limit or halt loan growth and shrink their balance sheets by selling some assets, Cassidy said.
Resolution and receivership specialists at the FDIC, like Gary Holloway, value troubled banks' assets as quickly as possible and try to find a stronger bank to absorb the weaker entity through an acquisition.
The current crisis hasn't reached the scale of the savings and loan crisis. In 1990, more than 1,500 banks were on the FDIC's troubled watch list, out of a total of roughly 15,000. More than 1,000 banks failed in 1988 and 1989, FDIC data show.
But it's possible for such comparisons to understate the scope of the coming wave of insolvencies.
During the late 1980s, banks in Texas couldn't open a new branch in another county without forming a new commercial bank. That meant there were lots more lenders in the state when the S&L crisis struck.
So when a bank failed, "40 of its other banks failed on the same day," Cassidy recalls.
Today, no states have such requirements, so there will be fewer bank failures this time, but those that do fail may be larger.
That means each bank failure may have a larger effect on the U.S. economy, withdrawing a bigger chunk of capital from the financial system each time.
"Bank failures don't cause recessions, they lengthen them," Mason, the Drexel professor, explained. "We could get a mild recession that could linger for a while longer because of the inability to recharge capital in the banking and financial system." End of Story
HEY KUNT's interesting BP 'TRUMOR' over @ BEBB this AM,
The IRS is now auditing anybody in Deschtues CO, that has done business with S-1031.
Ouch!!!!
This could be a CPA bonanza as in IRS audits its best to send in a CPA at 'hourly' to represent you, only a fool represents himself in front of the IRS.
Jeebus--KFXO now has Christian Broadcast Network News playing.
Welcome to the backwoods.
Pat Robertson just stated that when he was praying God indicated Obama is going to get whatever he asks for from Congress...
Literally, in those very words.
Jeebus Robertson is flexible. Not long ago he was PUG's best friend. A real PUG cock sucker.
Now he's sucking up to OREO!
Does he know something that LIB's don't know?? That OREO is MORE BUSH than BUSH??
Robertson loves the OREO, cuz the OREO remains silent while Israel kills all life in GAZA.
Who would have guessed?
Duy say's "Anything that could go wrong in BEND-ORYGUN, did go wrong", ... Really? or did they just get caught? The powers in NUMBERS is over, FRAUD being the NORM is BEND-OVER.
Anything That Could Go Wrong Did Go Wrong
The Gazette Times reports from Oregon. “After a months-long struggle to move through the city’s planning department and overcome objections by wetlands advocates, Ashwood Preserve is up for sale. The 9.52-acre parcel, which became a test case for a provision which allows a land owner to build on property even if it is mostly covered by natural features, has been stymied by a building industry that was quiet all year. It’s representative of the plight of Corvallis builders, who never really got off the ground in 2008.”
“Residential building ground almost to a halt in 2008. Just 44 permits for new residential building have been issued this year, half the number approved in 2007. At the end of last year, Legend Homes in Corvallis was upbeat about its prospects here. In June, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection when creditors came calling.”
“The Oregon company’s Corvallis projects — Stoneybrook and Willamette Landing, both offering new homes priced between $250,000 and $400,000 — had been largely completed before the troubles in the housing market. Another project brokered by Legend, Witham Oaks, remains in the same limbo that stalled Ashwood Preserve.”
“John Faulconer, a mid-valley builder for 10 years, hung up his tool belt this year and now sells existing real estate full time. ‘I just sold my own home for $550,000,’ he said. ‘A year and a half ago I could have gotten $750,000. It makes me sick.’”
The Oregonian. “State regulators are investigating a Bend firm that recently filed for bankruptcy after its owners used millions of customer dollars to fund their own business ventures, allegedly without permission. Summit 1031 Exchange’s owners said this week that they were short more than half of the $27.8 million in cash it owed to clients. The company said its problems are a result of loans it made during the real estate boom to Inland Capital Corp., a company owned by the same people who own and run Summit. Inland Capital Corp. then lent the money to other individuals and companies.”
“‘This is just horrible,’ said John Tennant, a Portland landowner whose family is owed $1 million. ‘We’ve hired an attorney, and we’ll be filing a lawsuit.’”
“Summit specialized in 1031 tax-deferred exchanges, a type of real estate investment that allows investors to defer paying federal taxes on gains from property sales. The largely unregulated exchanges are tax-deferred as long as sellers quickly reinvest their proceeds in similar properties.”
“Danae Miller of Bend said she turned to Summit looking to trade her 34-acre cattle farm near Bend for something larger. Summit now owes her $750,000. ‘I don’t know how in our lifetime we could ever recoup that money,’ she said.”
“News of what happened has surprised investors and business partners who said that Summit’s principals had strong reputations in the field and community. ‘They were very well regarded,’ said Dave Chambers, an accountant in Lake Oswego who ran Summit’s local office. ‘These guys in Bend got really good at this. These guys got too successful.’”
“Bend tied Atlantic City as the most overvalued market in the country in a report from research firm IHS Global Insight and National City Corp. Longview, Wash., had the fifth most overvalued market, Portland sixth, Eugene 10th, Salem 14th, Medford 21st. The firm bases the overvalued rankings on interest rates, household incomes, population densities and historic price trends.”
“The report provides further evidence that the housing crisis — after rolling through Sun Belt and Rust Belt states - — is clobbering Northwest markets the worst.”
“A South Waterfront condo once owned by a former U.S. Bank fraud investigator now doing time for embezzlement has resold for a discount of about 40 percent. David A. Shelofsky bought the 18th floor condo in June 2006 for $1.6 million. The condo went into foreclosure, and principal broker Philip Higgins listed it for $979,900 for the bank. He says it’s now under contract for a little less than the list price.”
“Shelofsky pleaded guilty in October 2006 to pocketing $1.5 million of the money he recovered from people accused of defrauding U.S. Bank. An accountant found that $583,000 of embezzled money went to properties Shelofsky purchased, including this condo. Shelofsky was sentenced to 37 months in federal prison last March.”
“Established Oregon economists scoffed a year ago when a younger colleague with a relatively new crystal ball declared: ‘A recession is likely imminent.’ As it turns out, University of Oregon economist Tim Duy, and his index of economic indicators, was closer to the target than even he imagined. Construction crashed, following the burst of the nation’s speculative housing bubble. Related sectors, such as wood products, manufacturing and the financial industry, also plunged. Foreclosures increased.”
“‘Anything that could go wrong did go wrong,’ Duy said this past week.”
“Eugenio Aleman, Wells Fargo & Co. senior economist, says federal monetary policy — injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy through the financial sector — is not helping those who need it the most. ‘It will not help those who are struggling to make ends meet, or have lost their jobs or who may soon lose them,’ Aleman said, ‘because no financial institution is going to lend them money to buy a home, no matter what the interest rate is.’”
The Peninsula Daily News from Washington. “Jefferson County’s assessor expects to hear some noise when his office sends out property tax assessment revaluation notices next August for the city of Port Townsend, just as he did after assessments for Chimacum and Port Ludlow came out earlier this year. The Port Townsend notices, which will be for 2010 taxes, will show average increases of 20 percent to 25 percent, Jack Westerman III said.”
“‘They’re going to say ‘Jack, you are out of your mind,’ said Westerman, who at 30 years in elected office is the state’s longest-standing county assessor.”
“The countywide taxable value has more than doubled since 1997 to 4.7 billion in 2007, Westerman said, with about half of that being new construction. ‘Port Ludlow is an area that has more turnover with so many retirees,’ Westerman explained.”
“Then there was the spike in Port Ludlow residential construction during 2005-2006 that glutted the market. ‘My biggest problem right now for me is the areas in Port Ludlow,’ he said.”
“This year, Westerman’s office put together data for the Port Townsend revaluation cycle. The cycle is from January 2005 to January 2009. ‘If you bought at the peak of the market in late ‘06 your value hasn’t done much but go down 15 percent,’ he said.”
“That, however, followed two years that each had 20 percent market-value increases in Port Townsend, he said.”
“Westerman points out that although Port Townsend-area homes sales have dramatically slowed since 2006, prices have not necessarily declined at the same pace. In fact, he said, many are selling for more than their 2005 assessed value. For example, Westerman said, an uptown Port Townsend home with a county assessed value of $290,000 in 2005 recently sold for $615,000.”
“Westerman produced documentation that shows his office’s assessed values from July 11, 2008, to mid-September were under sale prices by as much as 35 percent at the low end, and by 99.2 percent at most for the Port Townsend School District revaluation area, which includes Cape George, Kala Point, Discovery Bay and the West End. ‘There are fewer transactions to make decisions on, which makes it a little more difficult for anyone involved . . . It’s a tough time to figure out your fair market value,’ Westerman said.”
The Seattle Times from Washington. “Summing up the 2008 housing market, Glenn Crellin, was succinct: ‘Challenging at best,’ said the director of the Washington Center for Real Estate Research at Washington State University. ‘We clearly have a situation where consumers have exited the market, rightly or wrongly, on the presumption that housing prices are going to fall precipitously and they’ll be able to get tremendous bargains if they wait.’”
“As 2007 ended, Mike Scott, of Dupre + Scott Apartment Advisors, said renters should see rents rise and stiffer competition for apartments. The reasons: Tight mortgage lending was keeping many renters from becoming homeowners. Plus, many would-be buyers were taking a wait-and-see attitude toward home prices.”
“Well, some of that happened. Central Puget Sound rents climbed 7 percent in the past year, Scott said. Going forward, it would seem like the same factors Scott cited for this year would be in play again for 2009. But the apartment situation has changed considerably. For 2009 and 2010, Scott expects that vacancies will grow, but rents won’t.”
“However, the economy is deteriorating so rapidly that it’s hard to say exactly what that means. In September, Scott forecast that vacancies would reach almost 6 percent by early 2010. Then this month, he revised that upward to 7.3 percent.”
“Job losses decrease apartment demand because renters double up — one reason vacancies are expected to climb. The other big one is an increase in apartment construction. Scott says 2,620 units opened this year in 20-unit or larger buildings in King, Pierce and Snohomish counties. That’s about 500 more than had been predicted.”
“Currently, 8,900 units are under construction. Additionally, some buildings planned as condominiums may become apartments instead, and some apartments formerly converted to condos are being reconverted into apartments.”
The Seattle PI from Washington. “No surprise: Many Seattle-area real estate experts say the market slowdown was the biggest local real estate story of 2008. But there’s a lot less agreement about what to expect from 2009.”
“The median house price actually topped out at $481,000 in King County in July 2007 and $501,000 in Seattle in August. Last month, the medians were $415,000 in Seattle and $395,000 countywide, down 17.2 percent and 17.9 percent, respectively, from their peaks.”
“Spencer Rascoff, chief financial officer at Zillow, the Seattle-based online real estate site, said that given that nearly 14 percent of area homes have mortgages for more than they’re worth, massive job losses would bring another wave of foreclosures, stalling any recovery.”
“Unemployment was higher in 2002, but the housing market was strong then because people felt comfortable buying, said Bruce Williams, CEO of HomeStreet Bank. ‘Until people have confidence the economy is not in free fall, home sales will be down,’ he said.”
“Sean Hyatt, managing director of the Bellevue office of national apartment developer Trammell Crow Residential, focused on the mayhem itself. ‘The fact that this downturn is so multifaceted, with bad news coming from every angle, which in turn is leading us into one of the deepest recessions on record, is the most significant story,’ he said. ‘The failure of WaMu, the disappearance of the condo market, the commercial markets grinding to a halt, how quickly Seattle proved it wasn’t immune, again, and caught up with the national recession, and all the other negative events are just symptoms.’”
“The real shock came in August 2007, when mortgage lenders significantly tightened their standards. Declines in prices and sales continued into this year. The area showed signs of possible stabilization this summer, with pending sales actually up from a year earlier in September. But nationwide economic turmoil upended that, and pending sales dropped in November by more than 30 percent from a year earlier.”
“September’s turmoil, of course, included federal regulators seizing Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. and selling its branches, deposits and loans to New York-based JPMorgan Chase — the largest bank failure in U.S. history.”
“That was the biggest real estate story of the year, according to Richard Hagar, a Mercer Island appraiser who teaches anti-fraud classes and has been warning that lenders, including Washington Mutual, failed to ensure they made good loans. ‘They are the poster child of what is happening at many banks,’ Hagar said. ‘And all of the problems at WaMu are still going on right now today.’”
The New York Times. “As a supervisor at a Washington Mutual mortgage processing center, John D. Parsons was accustomed to seeing baby sitters claiming salaries worthy of college presidents, and schoolteachers with incomes rivaling stockbrokers’. He rarely questioned them. A real estate frenzy was under way and WaMu, as his bank was known, was all about saying yes.”
“Yet even by WaMu’s relaxed standards, one mortgage four years ago raised eyebrows. The borrower was claiming a six-figure income and an unusual profession: mariachi singer.”
“Parsons could not verify the singer’s income, so he had him photographed in front of his home dressed in his mariachi outfit. The photo went into a WaMu file. Approved. ‘I’d lie if I said every piece of documentation was properly signed and dated,’ said Parsons, speaking through wire-reinforced glass at a California prison near here, where he is serving 16 months for theft after his fourth arrest — all involving drugs.”
“While Parsons, whose incarceration is not related to his work for WaMu, oversaw a team screening mortgage applications, he was snorting methamphetamine daily, he said. ‘In our world, it was tolerated,’ said Sherri Zaback, who worked for Parsons and recalls seeing drug paraphernalia on his desk. ‘Everybody said, ‘He gets the job done.’”
“‘”It was the Wild West,’ said Steven M. Knobel, a founder of an appraisal company that did business with WaMu until 2007. ‘If you were alive, they would give you a loan. Actually, I think if you were dead, they would still give you a loan.’”
“The ultimate supervisor at WaMu was Kerry K. Killinger, who joined the company in 1983 and became chief executive in 1990. An investment analyst by training, he was attuned to Wall Street’s hunger for growth. Between late 1996 and early 2002, he transformed WaMu into the nation’s sixth-largest bank through a series of acquisitions.”
“A key deal came in 1999, with the purchase of Long Beach Financial, a California lender specializing in subprime mortgages, loans extended to borrowers with troubled credit. WaMu underscored its eagerness to lend with an advertising campaign introduced during the 2003 Academy Awards: ‘The Power of Yes.’ No mere advertising pitch, this was also the mantra inside the bank, underwriters said.”
“‘WaMu came out with that slogan, and that was what we had to live by,’ Zaback said. ‘We joked about it a lot.’ A file would get marked problematic and then somehow get approved. ‘We’d say: ‘OK! The power of yes.’”
It's deeper than just 1031, ...
Can I take all my money from my self directed IRA, and put it into BEND desert land and get rich tax free??
YES
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Using a Self-Directed IRA to buy real estate FAQ
| By Greg Long
What is a Self-Directed IRA?
A self-directed IRA is really not that different from any other IRA. The term “self-directed” simply indicates that you choose your IRA’s investments. Most investment brokerages and banks that offer “self-directed” IRAs limit clients to the scope of their own investment products. Custodians without proprietary products do not need to impose the same restrictions. This means you have more choices and greater flexibility for your retirement savings plan.
What can a Self-Directed IRA invest in?
Almost anything making for virtually unlimited array of possible investment choices that are allowed.
The IRS only defines the following assets as excluded:
* Life insurance contracts (e.g., a life insurance policy on the life of the IRA owner)
* Collectibles (e.g., antique rugs, cars, stamps, etc.)
* Capital stock in an “S” corp.
Examples of investments allowed within self-directed IRAs
Self-directed IRAs offer investors tremendous flexibility in choosing investments for your retirement savings plan.
Investing in real estate through your self-directed IRA may be the key to turning your dreams into reality. While most self-directed custodians accommodate traditional investments such as mutual funds and stocks, some specialized custodians also allow clients to invest in all forms of real estate (e.g., raw land; rental properties; commercial properties; even real estate-related private entities, such as limited liability companies, that invest in real estate).
INVESTING IN REAL ESTATE USING YOUR IRA:
Can I buy real estate using my IRA?
Yes, you can buy real estate with your IRA, Roth IRA, Sep/IRA, Educational Savings Account, or 401-k, 403b, 457, ESOP, and other pension plan rollover accounts. Imagine not being confined to investing your hard-earned cash in the volatile stock market or limited return CDs. You can diversify your retirement money in many creative and beneficial ways.
How do I buy real estate with my IRA?
It’s actually a simple process. You either transfer your existing IRA(s) or rollover your pension plan accounts to our preferred custodian that allows Self-Directed IRAs. Then you find a property and instruct the custodian to make the deposit and the purchase. Instead of mutual funds or stocks, you’ll have a rental property in Portland or 5 acres in Bend as part of your IRA portfolio.
Is this new? How long have I been able to invest in real estate with my IRA?
The fact is that you have been able to buy real estate within your IRA account since the first day IRAs were created (31 years ago.). While a small percentage of Americans have already benefited from this knowledge, it’s not too late for you to take advantage of the opportunity.
Why haven’t I heard about this before?
Until recently, the use of IRAs and other retirement plans to purchase real estate was an option that was not well known. Things are changing quickly do to the current financial times. People have become disillusioned over traditional investment choices and the results of their retirement investment activities. Recent economic and business events, such as the stock market decline, market and business scandals and corruption, along with historically low interest rates, have awakened passive investors whose retirement portfolios have suffered. They are suddenly ready to take action.
Why hasn’t the self-directed IRA business been publicized?
Because of their efficiency and profitability, traditional IRA providers control about 96% of the IRA industry. Their huge marketing budgets allow them to maintain a strong public presence, although recent guerrilla marketing techniques through the national media are now giving much-needed exposure to the valuable self-directed service industry. The true self-directed industry has the remaining 4% share of the IRA market and is rapidly growing.
How do I know this is all legal?
This is a question self-directed custodians hear frequently from prospects who have never heard that buying real estate with an IRA is possible. The fact is that you have been able to buy real estate with an IRA since the first day IRAs were created. Many major banks have been buying real estate in IRAs and pension plans for their clients for years.
So, now that I am convinced that it is legal to buy real estate with my IRA, what exactly can I buy?
Chances are that if you want to invest in something other than the life insurance policies, collectibles, and S Corporations, you probably can. That includes buying any form of real estate or real property. As Pat Rice, author of IRA Wealth: Revolutionary Ways to Build Wealth through Real Estate Investing with your IRA, says: “You buy your neighbor’s wheel barrow and rent it back to him.” (UBTI tax may apply).
Your IRA can purchase raw land, rental properties, commercial property, condominiums, mobile homes, boat slips, locomotives, earth-moving machines, race horses, tax liens, airplanes, tax certificates, foreign real estate, billboards, fishing rights in the State of Alaska, and even a seat on the New York Stock Exchange. Of course, all of these have to be handled strictly as investments and cannot be used personally.
How can I take funds out of my IRA to buy real estate, without paying taxes and penalties?
That’s simple. You DON’T take the funds out. Buying 100 acres of raw land in Oregon is just like buying 100 shares of Intel, a standard transaction for a self-directed IRA. Buying real estate is just a purchase of a different TYPE of investment. The mechanics of execution are also quite different. Whereas the purchase of 100 shares of Intel can be performed instantaneously through the Internet, the completion of a real estate transaction takes place in many steps, over 30-60 days. The careful handling of hundreds of real estate transactions simultaneously requires the effort of a specialist.
How do I transfer my IRA Account?
First, you arrange to move your existing IRA(s) or SEP IRA(s) to a custodian, or to “roll over” your existing pension plan (e.g., 401-k, 403b, ESOP, or 457 plan, etc.) to an IRA. We can put you in touch with our preferred custodian .
I don’t personally have that much cash. Can I co-invest with my friends and relatives?
Yes. You can combine your IRA and personal funds with your wife’s or husband’s savings, her or his IRA, funds from your friends, children or other relatives (or any other combination) in order to enter into the transaction together as tenants-in-common. Each investor appears on the grant deed (the legal document giving title to the property) as a percentage owner, based on the amount of each investor’s contribution towards the full purchase price. For example, if your IRA contributed $10,000 towards the purchase of a $100,000 parcel of land, the grant deed would specify that your IRA was a 10% owner.
If I combine with some of my friends and still don’t have enough to make an all cash offer, is there a way to get a loan for the balance?
Yes. You could also combine with other parties, where one who is unrelated to you or any other IRA owner (e.g., a friend) takes out a loan to finance a portion of the transaction.
Can I collect the rents for my IRA rental property?
Again, yes, and no. You can have the renters forward the rent checks to you, BUT made payable to your IRA. They cannot be made out to you, nor can you deposit them, even if you issue your IRA the equivalent amount in a new check. Rather, simply make a notation in your register that the renters made their payments, and forward the payment on to the custodian.
Can I buy a resort rental or vacation property and rent it myself for a few weeks a year?
No. Doing so would constitute a prohibited transaction. Remember IRAs are set aside for retirement and you cannot make personal use of an IRA asset, while it is in your IRA.
What if I want to invest in a large commercial property and I do need support from other parties? Are there ways to simplify the purchase and management of the property?
Yes. Yet another popular approach is for a group of investors to combine forces and invest in an entity such as a limited liability company (e.g., LLC). The LLC can purchase the property. This may be done for a variety of reasons (which will be discussed later), but this approach will allow the LLC to take out a loan. Banks are actually more comfortable loaning to companies than IRAs and, in some cases, people. One of the reasons for this is that the bank can get personal guarantees from some of the members to support the loan for the LLC. For example, it is not a prohibited transaction for an LLC member that is unrelated to any IRA owner to guarantee the loan for the LLC, possibly for a greater percentage of equity for the assumption of the extra risk.
What are the other advantages of using an LLC to invest in real estate?
First, an LLC by definition limits the liability to the assets of the LLC. If your LLC is sued as the owner of a building, recovery is, in most cases, limited to the assets in the LLC (exceptions to this limitation may vary from state to state, so check with your local real estate lawyer; in California, for example, exceptions include if an LLC member actively participates in a tort, signs contracts in his individual name or conducts the LLC in such a way such that a creditor may pierce the company veil). Plaintiffs can’t reach through the LLC to the underlying members (shareholders), including your IRA or you as the owner of the IRA. Thus, LLC’s are commonly used for asset protection.
Secondly, if you have a large group of investors, LLC’s simplify the purchase and management of real estate property by reducing the number of parties in the execution process. For example, an LLC with ten members can appoint a managing member, and that member can sign on real estate contracts and all other legal documents, etc. according to the terms of the LLC’s operating
Can my IRA make loans to others who want to buy real estate?
Yes. In fact, your IRA may make a loan to any person, other than a disqualified person, for any purpose. Such loans involving real estate act just like mortgages and are generally referred to as “Trust deeds” or mortgage deeds. They are secured by the deed to the property that serves as collateral for the loan if the borrower fails to meet the loan obligations. Just like the bank, the IRA lender can foreclose on the property by following the legal proceedings associated with foreclosure.
Usually, there is a loan broker for such loans. Generally these loans are called “hard money” loans because they occur when the borrower fails to secure a bank loan (e.g., due to poor credit or insufficient income), and because they demand higher rates of interest (usually 8% to 15%). Many clients have experienced consistent returns of 12% on Trust deeds year after year, without ever having to foreclose. One client rolled approximately $275,000 from his pension plan to a Self-Directd IRA when he retired in 1994. He has invested in nothing but Trust deeds and earned 12% on average ever since - no mutual funds, stocks, bonds or CDs. He accumulated over $800,000 from the effect of compound tax deferred growth, and was still able to withdraw $80,000 in his first year of mandatory distributions (at age 70.5) without touching his principal (12% of $800,000 is $96,000).
Can I make a personal loan (unsecured) to a friend from my IRA so he can buy a house?
Yes. In fact, you can lend your friend money from your IRA for any purpose (e.g., to buy a boat), and it doesn’t have to be secured or collateralized. Of course, such loans are risky, because you have only your friend’s integrity to rely on for repayment. The boat loan could be secured by the title to the boat for more protection. The tax laws require that the IRA be for your benefit, so the terms of any loan need to make the loan a good and reasonable investment for the IRA.
Are the gains or income taxable from IRA real estate investments?
This is a frequently asked question. The answer is NO - in most cases.
If an IRA buys investment real estate and then sells it at a profit, all income generated while it was held in the IRA and all the gains resulting from sale WILL be either tax-deferred (regular IRA) or possibly tax-free (Roth IRA), IF the purchases were all cash with IRA funds.
If the IRA borrows to finance the purchases, any income and capital gain that is attributable to debt-financing will be subject to taxation. So, for example, if an IRA puts 50% down on a rental property and that property generates $10,000 net income after expenses per year, the IRA will be taxed on 50% of the net income (the amount financed) less the first $1,000 which is tax exempt, or $4,000 (e.g., 50% x $10,000 = $5,000, less the $1,000 exemption = $4,000). The tax is charged at the Trust tax rate schedule because an IRA is considered a Trust for the purpose of tax. The tax applied is called Unrelated Debt Financed Income tax or UDFI tax.
Similarly, when the property is sold, the IRA will have to pay capital gains tax on any gain that was debt-financed. For example, if the same property was sold two years after purchase for a $100,000 profit, 50% (assuming there had not been any reduction in the debt) of the gain, or $50,000, would be subject to tax at a rate of 15% (the current long term capital gain rate). This results in a tax of $7,500. The remaining $92,500 would go back to the IRA tax-deferred. The IRA would also have to pay UDFI tax on any income on the property in the year of sale. Finally, if the debt had been reduced through principal payments on the loan, then the amount of UDFI and capital gains tax would be calculated based on the average indebtedness over the twelve months prior to the sale. If all the debt had been paid off one year prior to the sale, there would be no capital gains or UDFI at the time of sale.
Are you saying that if I buy income-producing or other real estate using all cash and sell it for profit, that I never pay any tax?
No. If you buy real estate, stocks, mutual funds, etc. with a traditional IRA, without incurring debt to the IRA, all the profit and income flows through to the IRA tax-DEFERRED. You can buy and sell property for twenty years or more in an IRA without paying either capital gains or income tax, provided that the investments are not debt-financed. If some or all of the investments are debt-financed you will pay UDFI tax on the amount of income and capital gains that were generated using debt. But assuming, for simplicity’s sake, that you buy 100 acres in Wyoming with cash and sell it 10 years later for a $400,000 gain after the debt has been retired for at least twelve months, all of the proceeds would go back into the IRA tax deferred for the next investment.
You can continue to do this until you either voluntarily decide to take withdrawals from your IRA (penalty-free after age 59 ½), or until you are required to at age 70 ½. Once you begin to withdraw funds or assets from your IRA, you are taxed at current ordinary income tax rates on the fair market value of what you withdraw. If you withdraw $25,000 in cash, you have to add $25,000 to your taxable income as reported on your 1040 in the year of the withdrawal. If you withdraw 100 acres in Wyoming in one distribution (as opposed to fractionalizing the distribution over a number of years to reduce the one-time tax hit), you will have to have the property appraised and the value will be reported by the custodian as a taxable distribution on your 1099.
With the tax on any leveraged income and the requirement to pay ordinary income tax when I take money out of my IRA at retirement, it doesn’t seem that buying real estate with my IRA is a good idea. Why should I consider it?
That’s a good question and one I believe that confuses many, including CPAs. First, when you buy real estate outside your IRA, you pay tax on any income. Of course, you can offset the amount of income by deducting expenses and depreciation. However, you still pay tax on the entire amount of net income. In addition, unless you meet the requirements of a 1031 tax-deferred exchange on the sale of your property, you pay capital gains tax on the total profit.
With an IRA, you only have to pay tax on any income or capital gains associated with the amount that is debt-financed, thereby sheltering the balance which goes into the IRA tax-deferred. In addition, much as with a taxable real estate investment, the UDFI calculation allows you to deduct certain expenses, including depreciation, when determining the amount of tax to be paid. See IRS form 990T at www.IRS.gov to see the details of the calculations.
More importantly, once the tax-deferred portion of any income or gain and any after-tax income or gains from debt financing are returned to the IRA, they will grow tax-deferred (or tax-free if a Roth IRA) until you take them out of the IRA, allowing you to grow your net earnings tax-deferred for years thereafter. This is much like what can be accomplished with much greater effort and expense with the procedures for a 1031 exchange of non-IRA property investments.
In addition, you still get the benefits of using leverage to increase your returns to your IRA. There is tax on the leveraged portion, but you’ll usually generate more absolute after tax returns by borrowing with your IRA than if you didn’t. These will result in a rapid growth in your retirement account, so you’ll have a bigger nest egg when you retire.
But the most important issue is comparing investing in real estate within the IRA versus outside of an IRA. Taxable and disposable funds are treated differently from retirement or tax-exempt funds when real estate investing is involved (as discussed above). But the fact is, they are separate portfolios, with different rules, and need to be treated as such. If you have an IRA or a 401-k that can be rolled to an IRA, then your decision is limited to 1) continuing to grow it tax-deferred or 2) taking it out and paying taxes and possible penalties on the amount distributed to you.
If you decide to continue to grow your IRA tax-deferred, then the issue is NOT how your IRA real estate investment compares to a non-IRA real estate investment, but rather how it relates to other IRA investments such as stocks, mutual funds, and CDs, etc. If you feel you will be most successful in terms of producing more consistent or higher returns through real estate investing, then you’ll choose that path to your IRA investing, or simply include some percentage of real estate in your portfolio for diversification and risk protection. They say in real estate it’s “location, location, location.” In investing, it’s “diversify, diversify, diversify.” So even if you choose to invest solely in real estate with your IRA, you would be well advised not to put all your eggs in one basket.
Why should I use a Roth IRA for real estate investing?
If you invest with your Roth IRA (and by the way, your Roth, SEP and regular IRA can all invest together in a real estate investment as co-tenants), all the income and capital gains will go back to your Roth IRA tax-deferred. Because Roth IRAs are funded with after-tax funds, if you leave the earnings (e.g., income and capital gains) in the Roth for five years from the date the Roth was first established AND until you are 59 ½, the entire Roth, INCLUDING THE EARNINGS, WILL BE TAX-FREE FOREVER.
Better yet, you are not required to take distributions from your Roth until you die, when your beneficiaries will be the ones taking distributions. So your Roth IRA investments can continue to grow tax free for life… There is still more. As long as you are working and have earned income, you may be able continue to contribute to your Roth IRA up to $4,500 per year (there are annual adjustments to the limits) in which your adjusted gross income is below applicable limits.
Let’s say you buy a piece of property for $100,000 at age 40 with your Roth IRA. When you reach retirement age (e.g., at age 65, 25 years later), your property is worth $1,000,000. You can either sell it and keep the $1,000,000 in your Roth to grow tax free, or remove the cash OR THE PROPERTY tax free.
Can I buy a business using my IRA funds?
Yes. Few people know that you can buy and operate a business with an IRA. Some people, with full-time jobs, will establish a new business just for their IRA account. Such businesses, whether they buy real estate or operate a gas station, restaurant or dry cleaner, are called operating companies when they provide goods and/or services (e.g., a dry cleaner provides a service). When your IRA owns and operates a business, it is subject to taxation just like any other business. Otherwise, the IRS says, the IRA could provide unfair competition to the dry cleaner that has to pay tax. This tax has a special name called Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) – “unrelated” because an IRA is a tax-exempt entity. The UBIT rules were originally aimed at non-profits which began to create traditional businesses as a means of raising funds while avoiding taxation. The IRS, therefore, created the UBIT rules to protect private businesses from unfair competition.
Can my IRA invest in my existing business?
Yes. Let’s suppose you are an owner of a company that is willing to take on additional capital. If the company is an “operating company” as discussed above, AND you own less than 50% (including the sum of the ownership positions of your “disqualified persons,” then your IRA can invest funds in the company if it is a good investment for the IRA and not made to protect your non-IRA interests. If you own 50% or more, then your IRA could NOT invest in the entity, until your ownership is diluted to less than 50% prior to the transaction by your IRA.
Can I start my own company with my IRA or 401-k rollover?
Yes. An IRA can invest alone or with the IRA owner and others, including disqualified persons, in the private stock of a new startup company. The mechanics of the execution of such a plan should be reviewed by a qualified attorney, because if the plan is executed poorly prohibited transactions can be created. For example, the IRA owner should not incorporate personally (without the IRA) when first setting up the new company.
People who have been laid off with nothing more than their 401-k savings can roll those funds to their IRA to help invest in a new venture. By using these funds, a business owner may get his company off the ground and put in equipment, inventory or product prototypes, etc., before trying to raise capital from outside investors or the venture capital marketplace. By doing so, he or she can frequently raise capital at a lower cost and with less dilution, because the company is already up and running and possibly demonstrating its abilities to produce a profit.
Can I purchase stock in a private company?
A private company is any company whose stock has not been listed and offered for sale on a public stock market, and YES, you can invest in the stock of a private company with your IRA. Doing so is no different than investing in a company that you start. In fact, most businesses are started with private investment funds instead of traditional sources, such as bank financing. Banks are not willing to take on the risk associated with investments in new businesses. They reserve their investment and loan funds for more established firms with some form of collateral. Consequently, more than three-quarters of all new businesses are started by the private funds of friends and family, including their IRAs.
How long does it take to transfer the account?
Once we receive your signed application and transfer/rollover form, we immediately mail (or overnight at your option), your request to your current custodian(s). The time it takes from that point to the receipt of funds at custodian can vary from a minimum of two weeks to sometimes 6-8 weeks, depending upon the institution and their workload, policies, and efficiency. It is sometimes helpful to contact your representative (e.g., broker) to see if the process can be expedited for you.
What are the fees to open account?
Fees to open a self-directed IRA is just $50 with our preferred custodian.
Look in today's BULL. in the Civil Suits listing: Tenants file suit against Inland Capital.
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Please Post.
08CV1121AB: Joseph P. Tennant, John J. Tennant, Thomas A. Tennant, Mary F. Tennant-Laier, Michael J. Tennant, Anne M. Tennant-Buell, Robert E. Tennant and Nora Brady, dba Tennant Investors, and Robert Tennant v. Brian Stevens, Lane D. Lyons, Mark A. Neuman, Tim Larkin, and Inland Capital Corp., complaint, $1,455,256.66
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Might have to go down and get a copy.
Not just the corp, against the four principals personally as well. Probably not the last one we'll see.
Four gigantic stomach aches tonight. Will they even be able to sleep?
Might have to go down and get a copy.
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Hell yes BP, this complaint is a MUST to be added to your JR tombstone on B-1031.
>> Four gigantic stomach aches tonight. Will they even be able to sleep?
Spoken from experience I can see. If you haven't been sued in business, you ain't making enough money :)
A little hint, it fucking sucks and causes many restless nights. Always better to be the plaintiff.
>> TRUMOR - Anybody want to second? APU can you do better? Hom, Lav, Quim??? Marge?
Its good (better than I can come up with), but not Central Oregon specific enuf.
How about something along the lines of (and these don't exactly fit, just trying to noodle the idea):
- Your High Desert Destiny
- Inevitability
Something doomy......sorry I'm not a poet.
I don't know quim, Trumor, sounds an awful lot like a tumor, and its a growth, and bad shit happens to the host.
Desert Tumor Rumor?
High Desert Tumor Rumor?
Looks like this one is just going to take time.
My first thought of Trumor was a rumor from trudy, the brains behind the BP factory of Bend ideas.
A little hint, it fucking sucks and causes many restless nights. Always better to be the plaintiff.
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Well let's see, in a civil lawsuit nationally only 1 in 4 cases are found guilty, and if you don't prevail as a plaintiff then you pay the defendants legal & court costs, which are always at least $10k/month, and a good defense team will postpone a case for years.
There are never any winners in a civil lawsuit.
If you bother to study prior 1031 collapses nationally insurance covers the losses. The principals walk.
You can sue anybody for anything in the USA.
Never 'good' to be a 'plaintiff or defendant'.
I'll tell you GOOD, its being a lawyer on either side or the court, they're making money all the time.
Criminal of course is another matter, as the system pays the costs of prosecution, unless the party is found not-guilty, and then can sue the accuser.
Everybody that sues 1031, means that much less money will be left for the people to whom the money is owed, as more money will go to lawyers.
Pat Robertson just stated that when he was praying God indicated Obama is going to get whatever he asks for from Congress...
Literally, in those very words.
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No bruce the exact words were "That Obama would bring Socialism to the USA in 2009, and that god would be pleased with the outcome".
The trouble here is that Robertson has made your boy OREO now synonymous with socialism.
>> Never 'good' to be a 'plaintiff or defendant'.
>> I'll tell you GOOD, its being a lawyer on either side or the court, they're making money all the time.
Yes, this is gospel truth. Lawyers are the only ones that "win".
Woe Unto You, Lawyers
WAKE UP HOMER HERES THE CREEPIEST STORY TODAY COMING FROM CENTRAL ORYGUN
Kids alone for days, parents dead in locked room
3 hours ago
MADRAS, Ore. (AP) — A couple who hadn't been seen since New Year's Eve have been found dead inside their locked bedroom with their crying 9-month-old daughter in an apparent murder-suicide. Three older children had been left out on their own.
The bodies of Hannah Crowe and Julian Wallulatum were discovered Saturday after the older children asked a neighbor to help.
Crowe, 26, and Wallulatum, 21, had both been shot, said police Sgt. Dennis Schneider.
A preliminary investigation showed it "appears to be a murder-suicide resulting from a domestic dispute," Detective Tanner Stanfill said in a statement.
The statement listed Crowe as the victim.
The three older children had been playing outside Thursday and Friday so nothing seemed wrong, said neighbor Andrew Smith.
But on Saturday, the kids knocked on his door, led by the oldest, an 8-year-old girl, Smith said.
"The oldest one said 'I can't wake my mom up. I can't wake my mom and dad up, 'cause I think they're still passed out, but I can see blood on my mom's leg, under the door,'" Smith told KTVZ-TV of Bend.
Smith said he went to the couple's apartment, smelled a foul odor and heard the couple's baby crying. He kicked down the locked bedroom door and found them dead in the same clothes they were wearing New Year's Eve.
The baby was beside them; her shirt stained with their blood.
"My knees, they wobbled," Smith said. "It just took it out of me. I almost fainted."
"How could they leave the babies?" asked neighbor Ashley Barker. "If something was going on, an argument, why didn't they send them to the neighbors?"
Smith said the state Department of Human Services took the baby into protective custody, and the other children were with relatives.
Madras is a town of just over 6,000 people, about 100 miles southeast of Portland.
Information from: KTVZ-TV, http://www.ktvz.com/
International Making Cities Liveable conference in Portland this year. May 10-14. I for one wouldn't mind some of my money as a taxpayer to go towards city councilors attending.
http://www.livablecities.org/
I guess that makes me a pussy.
http://www.livablecities.org/
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That be 'code' livable for whom?
In PDX the rule-of-thumb is the stake-holders. Try to get anyone in ORYGUN gubmint to ever define 'stake-holder'.
The whole reason for pushing BAT (bend-bus) up the ass of the BEND taxpayer this kind of 'code'.
Hell no, you yourself 'sp' ( spandex-pussy ) should bike ( not drive ) to PDX in May 2009, and give us a full report. Fuck the taxpayer of Bend paying our city-staff, and elected to go to Jakes and dine for a week.
There are two common 'codes' in ORYGUN, actually three well maybe four,
1.) livable city
2.) affordable housing
3.) sustainable income job
4.) I will not cum in your mouth
1 is always Nazi's that want to tell others how to live, aka ride-a-bus, 2 is Nazis trying to tell us where to live, and 3 is to make sure that the Nazi's themselves get paid for their work, and of course 4 is what they tell 'we the people' when the bill is due for 1-3,
Welcome to ORYGUN,
4 Children Lived Alone For Days With Bodies Of Dead Parents Locked In Their Bedroom
Monday January 5, 2009
CityNews.ca Staff
A horrible story has emerged from a small Oregon town and it's left four children orphaned and police hunting for a motive in a shocking crime.
To make matters even more tragic, the kids had been living with the bodies of their deceased mom and dad since New Year's Eve - and didn't even know it.
For three days, the youngsters - including a nine-month old daughter - had been fending for themselves in the city of Madras, about 160 kilometres from Portland, wondering what happened to their parents.
The couple, 26-year-old Hannah Crowe and 21-year-old Julian Wallulatum, was secreted behind a locked bedroom door and the oldest child - a girl just eight years of age - knocked repeatedly, pleading with her mom and dad to come out.
But the only response was the wailing of the baby, who was also behind that closed barrier.
On Saturday, after being alone without any supervision for three long days, the children finally ran to a neighbour's apartment, pleading for help.
Andrew Smith opened his door and was startled to find the kids there, since he'd seen them playing outside on Thursday and Friday and assumed nothing was wrong.
His opinion changed when he got to their front door, heard the baby crying and detected a foul odour emanating from inside.
"The oldest one said 'I can't wake my mom up. I can't wake my mom and dad up, 'cause I think they're still passed out, but I can see blood on my mom's leg, under the door,'" Smith told an Oregon TV station.
He kicked down the bedroom door and saw a sight he insists will forever haunt him. The bloodstained bodies of the couple lay in their bed, wearing the same clothes they'd been dressed in on New Year's Eve. Both were dead.
The nine-month old lay beside them, crying and soaked in blood and her own feces. An autopsy appears to show Wallulatum shot Crowe before turning the gun on himself.
But why they didn't send their children out of the apartment or leave the baby in another room is a mystery that died with the couple.
Smith claims he almost fainted at the terrible scene while other neighbours are both astounded and angry at the presumed killer for his callous actions that took one life and endangered so many others.
No one recalls hearing the shots.
The baby has now been placed in protective custody while the other three kids have been left with relatives.
If Porkchop disagrees with it it means it's probably a good idea.
Porkchop's plan to make Bend more liveable:
1. Rant, Rant and more Rant
2. Hope population goes to 30k again
3. Let Bend turn into Detroit
4. Have all his rentals turn into meth dens
Central Ore. couple facing foreclosure commits suicide
04:54 PM PDT on Friday, October 26, 2007
Associated Press
PRINEVILLE, Ore. -- Raymond and Deanna Donaca had fought foreclosure on their home and lost, but had dropped strong hints they wouldn't leave the three-level dwelling alive.
On Tuesday, Crook County sheriff's deputies went to the home east of Prineville after neighbors called with concerns that they were not answering their door, and their dogs were missing.
They walked up the driveway and smelled gas. Inside the attached locked garage, a 1981 Cadillac Eldorado sat empty, its engine running.
Then they entered the house.
They found the bodies of Raymond Donaca, 71, and three golden retrievers. Upstairs they discovered the bodies of Deanna Donaca, 69, and a fourth dog.
The family "reported to us that they'd made statements in the past that they may not leave their home alive," said Sgt. Jim Chapman.
Court records show that the couple lost the home in Central Oregon this summer following a court battle after more than a decade of financial trouble.
The couple filed for bankruptcy in 1992, 2004 and 2006 and several liens were placed against the property.
Foreclosures are up nationwide but Crook County's foreclosure rate is not inordinately high, said Judge Scott Cooper, the county executive.
"It's really sort of an anomaly," he said. "It's really tragic, really."
Raymond Donaca was a retired contractor for the U.S. Forest Service who hauled logs and cleared brush with his bulldozer, said his brother, Don Donaca who lives nearby but was not close to the couple.
"He and his wife, they sort of stuck to themselves," said Don Donaca. But he said he had heard they were struggling to keep the house.
Chapman had been to the house earlier to deliver a notice from the new owners that the couple would have to leave. Court records indicated they were to be out Monday.
"We knew that the process was in place," Chapman said. "It was the family members that made it clear to us that this was maybe their way of dealing with it."
One of Buster's biggest complaints: the absolutely shitty way that Bend has been developed in the last 10 years.
If Bend had have been developed as a liveable city with intelligent growth, what would he have to bitch about?
1. Rant, Rant and more Rant
[ If it smells like pork, its probably pork. One mans ham is another mans spam. The only person who has no sense of humor in BEND is hbm. ]
2. Hope population goes to 30k again
[ Please don't tell me that 'spandex pussy' (SP) and I have found common-ground so early in the day. ]
3. Let Bend turn into Detroit
[ Bend is a lot things, but I can tell you two things that statistically will never happen.
a.)Bend will never be aspen.
b.)Bend will never be detroit.
Bend will become most like Junction City, OR, a place people drive through to get to their destination, Bend will be where people go to in order to shop at Walmart. ]
4. Have all his rentals turn into meth dens
[ For as long as there has been meth ( which is a long time, shit we had a meth problem in the 1970's ), poorly managed rental units have been meth dens, always have, and always will. Goes with the fact that white-trash loves meth, and bend/la-pine/tumalo/redmond has always been and always will be white-trash. ]
. Methamphetamine was first synthesized from ephedrine in Japan in 1894 by chemist Nagayoshi Nagai. [4] In 1919, crystallized methamphetamine was ... been around forever and whitey loves the shit.
Buster is a fucking idiot.
"Liveable for who!!!" he cries, while commenting how nice it is to live in the close in westside where he can walk to downtown, walk to longboard louies, walk to the park. That's the fucking definition of a liveable city. He understands the concept of it, but has no idea that's what it's called therefore he decries it. Oh no!!! It's a big scary concept!!!
It's making cities liveable. Read a little.
If Bend had have been developed as a liveable city with intelligent growth, what would he have to bitch about?
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To me what I'm hearing is that HOLLERN is hired a new PR firm.
Back in 1998, HOLLERN paid over $1M and had a series of workshops out at the high-desert museum, and called it "BEND SMART GROWTH".
Your forgetting that the BEST liberal BRAINS that you can buy with PUG dollars was spent selling the shit-eating liberals of BEND 'Livability', out of that they got NWXC approved, and a ton of STD's that we see today.
Now 'spandex pussy' tells me there is a new piper ( pied ) coming to BEND, with a new message, and its going to be called "Intelligent Growth", rather than "smart growth", but its going to be financed by the same people, and its going to be PR&MARKETED by BEND's best minds i PR&MARKETING ( SORE/BULL RETREAD's ).
You honestly think 'SP' that the last ten years wasn't the liberals great white-dream of CUM of livable?? What did we get?? 1,000's of rotting STD's, sitting and rotting.
Where is the livability of NWXC, it could be a SET for the step-ford-wives rerun horror films of the past.
'SP' your a POOR TROLL, cuz you don't know your fucking BEND history. You booor me.
Buster is an idiot, but that porkchop is a fucking genius.
Only hbm, would fall back with a couple posts to personal insults.
HBM has been here for 20 years, he could have stopped HOLLERN from destroying BEND during the last ten years, but he didn't, instead he was part of the 'bob woodward' outdoor, outside-magazine COVA machine.
NOW HBM & AARON want to portray themselves as the solution to the problem, rather than the fucking CAUSE.
Other than NWX, what STD was planned as "smart growth." None.
One of Buster's biggest complaints: the absolutely shitty way that Bend has been developed in the last 10 years.
If Bend had have been developed as a liveable city with intelligent growth, what would he have to bitch about?
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The smartest, and highest paid architects and city open-space designer made millions on Bend during the last ten years.
Oregon is a showcase for what tax-payer dollars can do for Nazi's with a cause.
You cite Drake-Park, and walking to Newport, and Longboard as livable, but that is 'INSPITE of CITY-HALL', the people who built the 10's of 1,000's of STD's in this cycle who run the BULL/SORE didn't create a hood like around drake-park, which took a 100 fucking years, livability takes 'time'.
This is a dead subject, years ago on this blog we spent months discussing the ORGANIC creation of a livable HOOD, and NO shit-eating liberal, being fed with PUG dollars, can snap their fingers and pass tax-payer money to KNIFE-RIVER, and have MOSS wipe her pussy juice on the cash and make something 'livable'.
The area around drake park will in time be destroyed by city-hall because they'll let the mud turn the river into a stink-hole. But that is another story.
ALL of BEND is about PUG's feeding liberals with SHIT, and todays SHIT is 'intelligent growth', and yesterdays SHIT was 'smart growth',
BUT ALL FUCKING growth in BEND has always been the same, to MAKE HOLLERN richer, and to do so with taxpayer dollars.
Other than NWX, what STD was planned as "smart growth." None.
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Go talk to the lawyer that does 'land watch' here in BEND, and go talk to him personally, and have him explain to you how 'smart growth' works in BEND.
HOLLERN controls all, and ALL of HOLLERN's projects are 'smart growth', cuz he's the guy that brought the green-light to BEND in 1998.
I still go back to the point this is a stupid debate.
Long ago, me, apu, homer, quim, lava, ... all concurred that a University is ORGANIC and doesn't fall out of the ass.
A community takes generations, at least 3-5 to organically feed, to have diversification.
The entire concept that a SUIT from KMART can come to a town, and sell a population the idea that RAY-KURATEK or JEFF, can come and over-night turn FUCKING Juniper-RIdge into an 'organic intelligent growth community' is a crock of fucking shit.
NEVER ever happened in human history, and will never fucking happen.
LOOK AT BEND TODAY, what do we got??
WALMART, and MORE WALMART, ..
It's why people come to Bend.
Signing off now, I got to get into 'FORM' for Deschutes Happy Hour @ 4:30PM.
Anybody that wants to debate that money cannot create a 'organic livable community is welcome'.
In many ways this debate is like edooocation. You can throw all the money in the USA, all the money that the FED's can print to the public-school-union, and US education will suck.
You can throw all the taxpayer money to HOLLERN&CO, and they'll never create a livable community. Look at fucking NWXC, are there people No, well one day I saw people the day all the pipes broke, and they had to put the merchandise on the STREET.
'LIVABILITY' takes TIME, not money.
'livability' takes love, not greed.
'livability' takes diversification, not mono-clonal fucking SUV PUG shopping COSTCO bitches.
There is NO Way in HELL anybody is ever going to make anything around BEND livable, until you fucking NEWBIES leave.
Even the 'spandex pussy' notes that the newport,louie,drake triangle is livable, well guess what KUNTS it was also 'livable' in the 1960's,
Nothing the new folks in BEND all frauds have made it better, nothing new in ORYGUN for that matter.
Tom McCall used to have a sign at the CALI border "VISIT but don't stay'.
Want to make BEND livable, 30k population max, and tear down all the STD's.
Early '80's. Bend was turning into Klamath Falls, Burns, Baker, and so said YES to any growth, any growth whatsoever. (Smart or otherwise.)
And we got what we got.
We've argued this before. You think bubbles are created, I think they happen. They can be helped along, but you can't just create one anytime you feel like it, just like you can't keep them from popping.
"Want to make BEND livable, 30k population max, and tear down all the STD's."
Least realistic post of the day.
>> Least realistic post of the day.
God yes, but what a beautiful dream. Now go home please.
Picked up a copy of the Tennant v Summit civil suit. Turns out the Tennant family have TWO open exchanges going with Summit, the one listed on the BK filing for $1,035,256.66, and another for $420,000.
I'll try to get it scanned and upload soon.
http://bend.craigslist.org/bfs/981354946.html
Bond Street Market is for sale. Owner can no longer meet all obligations. 10 grand(firm) takes everything. The business is in the black and is carrying no debt- 2 more years on lease and landlord has expressed willingness to reduce rent for new tenant. There is over 10k in fixtures and equipment alone. Please respond for more info
While I was at the courthouse I checked out the filings posted on the wall, and the assets of the Old Mill Martini Bar are being auctioned of on Friday, onsite. Even the A/R.
...off...
Going to be a wicked few years, Bruce, eh?
Downsizing to where we should be. Some pain will be felt, but unless the city goes BK, we should be OK. I would think the inner stuff will be better off than the way out there stuff. There was a reason there is only one grocery store east of Pilot Butte.
I just did a search on RealtyTrac and they are showing 341 auctions planned in the next few months. That's fuckload of inventory right now.
If you can figure out something to export, you could be golden. I keep coming back to entertainment properties. The folly of continually buying shit you don't really need has been shown, I believe. But entertainment is something that is consumed. The rise of online multiplayer games/worlds is an example.
Perhaps I should broaden that--consumables of all sorts. From dog food to toilet paper to milk. Stuff you do have to buy regularly. A car or a house is a once in years purchase for most.
But with the dollar in the toilet and heading lower, exports are gold.
News of the moment--Fox-CO made up with BendBroadBand.
For those who care.
via patrick.net
What I've long suspected:
Madoff Fund was Bust NOT a Fraud, but Fraud Entitles Investors to Compensation
Great catch, Q
Although I'm not sure what government program entitles hedge fund investors to billions in fraud protection funds. Maybe a new one we haven't heard of yet.
>> Maybe a new one we haven't heard of yet.
Just wait, I'm sure they're "cooking" something up.
I live Bend. I just came down from Madras tonight and there was enough human blood for all.
I hear it will spilling over to Bend by weekend.
Early '80's. Bend was turning into Klamath Falls, Burns, Baker, and so said YES to any growth, any growth whatsoever. (Smart or otherwise.)
And we got what we got.
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Fuck YOU shit for brains dunc, we're talking 1998, not 1980's.
(This version CORRECTS that the 8-year-old is a boy, not a girl.)
Hey its all OK the the 8yr old was a boy, and not a girl.
Kids alone for days, parents dead in locked room
2 hours ago
MADRAS, Ore. (AP) — A couple who hadn't been seen for three days were found dead in their locked bedroom with their crying 9-month-old daughter in an apparent murder-suicide. Three older children had been left out on their own.
The bodies of Hannah Crowe and Julian Wallulatum were discovered Saturday after the older children asked a neighbor to help.
Crowe, 26, and Wallulatum, 21, had both been shot, said police Sgt. Dennis Schneider.
A preliminary investigation showed it "appears to be a murder-suicide resulting from a domestic dispute," Detective Tanner Stanfill said in a statement. The shooting probably occurred Thursday, he said.
The statement listed Crowe as the victim.
The three older children had been playing outside Thursday and Friday so nothing seemed wrong, said neighbor Andrew Smith.
But on Saturday, the kids knocked on his door, led by the oldest, an 8-year-old boy, Smith said.
"The oldest one said 'I can't wake my mom up. I can't wake my mom and dad up, 'cause I think they're still passed out, but I can see blood on my mom's leg, under the door,'" Smith told KTVZ-TV of Bend.
Smith said he went to the couple's apartment, smelled a foul odor and heard the couple's baby crying. He kicked down the locked bedroom door and found them dead in the same clothes they were wearing New Year's Eve.
The baby was beside them; her shirt stained with their blood.
"My knees, they wobbled," Smith said. "It just took it out of me. I almost fainted."
"How could they leave the babies?" asked neighbor Ashley Barker. "If something was going on, an argument, why didn't they send them to the neighbors?"
Smith said the state Department of Human Services took the baby into protective custody, and the other children were with relatives.
Madras is a town of just over 6,000 people, about 100 miles southeast of Portland.
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Information from: KTVZ-TV, http://www.ktvz.com/
(This version CORRECTS that the 8-year-old is a boy, not a girl.)
I hate this fucking Blog, but I read it, ... why you midget ask?? Well because I'm Jewish, and my duaguter is married to the gay th owns da sore.
Well I fell like a turn tonight on a blanket of bagels & cream without the lox, but trouble in BEND is the lox succks. So dar it,, is big time, that made-off and crew are bailing out all on $50B that never was.
SO I ask here in BEND where is ourzs? Where in da fuck is ourzs??
So many of us ask evenyry night in Da BEND were is OURz's? I ask thisqustion ot me wif weeeevery fuck nit, andd I dI tget answer NOOOOOO" A pig Bend fucking NOOOOOO!!
So alll days bpeople who invet in da madeOff day now file doa claimsof lsss wand all say 'imagine dayt'??? I say YEH, I luv doa bEND.
Israel may finally be receiving a reckoning the most progressice Dems. DKos top rated diary earlier today was The I/P Conflict is Simpler than You Think, and with over 1500 comments in less than 12 hours, it's hit a nerve.
Now the slow but sure movement towards broader unbiased coverage may start to happen. It can't remain the US, Israel, a few island nations, and maybe Australia or Canada against the rest of the world in the UN forever. As the diarist noted, a peace plan is easy, but: The two-state settlement, based on the pre-June 1967 borders, passed 164-7, with the US, Israel, Australia, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and the Marshall Islands voting in opposition..
On the other side you got things like Mayor Bloomberg hiding from "rockets" in Sderot on US TV.
This subject drives me crazy at times. Although I know there isn't shit I can do. We get played like a fiddle by the Zionists. A cash machine fiddle.
Christ, I used to be able to type...
There was a reason there is only one grocery store east of Pilot Butte.
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If you be hugnry for a tub e snake or man-ubrugr dan da morman nurch fed youdod per doa BP so sayeme people of da bEND.
We aldat go over toyers or more of day cannn fodd for doa surviveror and od marge can stockschntit but thd dutt&deas but ye oorman nruch has butter da bread dis da youbg stiff so WTF to say the LORD!
AMEN
So what did anyone learn about trumors at Deschutes tonight?
I must admit fake bruce is in fine form tonight.
what is a "Jew by blood"? What makes you think I am a "Jew by blood"? Is it my big hooked nose? My thick lips? My low, sloping forehead? There are no Jews in my family tree.
Bendict: to express a Bend outcome in advance.
Past Tense: Marge told everyone something was fishy with Summit 1031. She bendicted it a week before anyone else.
Future tense: I bendict that Fireside Red will not reopen in March.
Bendict...that's a good one.
We think had ye have hooked nose, and da slop fore-skin, and da thick penile-labia, dat dea have the 'seed' big fucking time and on hbealf of hte whole fuckin mormrn nurch of BEND-VOER we welcme you t o unchkin -land.
You see is MORST val U BAL to nss, and pleeeeeeeeeeze put the seed of you in a large bend bulbbble ad adave the sadeeeed. cuz da mormorn nruhch of BEN widlll be orir eve fratateful of the dontation albeit to CHA &####$$$$$$$$
E ed mormorns we be gowawd s chosen eppeeeple PPP and we wee e direc enINNNNsenddantsof of the Hold JwweeEW JEEBUS himerSELF.
Hick, to love the pussy is to love all pussy so shall ye love pussy?
So we still dont' have a vote but we're down to a 'trumor' or a 'BendDICK'??
Seheet how about a bend-over-real-slow??
Central Oregon is Still #1
Madras Murder-Suicide Leaves Children Parentless
BY ETHAN LINDSEY
Portland, OR January 5, 2009 2:41
Police continue to investigate Monday the murder-suicide of a Madras couple on New Year's Day. The deaths leave four children without a home. Central Oregon correspondent Ethan Lindsey reports.
Hannah Crowe and Julian Wallulatum were found dead, when Crowe's three school-aged children told neighbors they were hungry and worried.
Neighbors kicked down the couples' locked door and inside found the bodies, lying next to Wallulatum's nine-month old daughter.
Police suspect that Wallulatum shot Crowe, before turning the gun on himself.
The infant is in the custody of the state. The three older children are with family members.
Joan Schweizer Hoff is the associate director of the Dougy Center for Grieving Children, in Portland.
She says children of such tragedies face a confusing landscape.
Joan Schweizer Hoff: "It's not uncommon for children to talk about 'the mom' who was murdered, is in heaven, and that the person who committed the murder, and then died by suicide, is in hell or is being punished somehow."
Schweizer Hoff adds that younger children may not grasp the permanency of their parents' deaths until later on in life, when the grief may reemerge.
© 2009 OPB
were one of the first civilizations to have tales of blood-drinking demons: creatures attempting to drink blood from men were depicted on excavated pottery shards.[58] Ancient Babylonia had tales of the mythical Lilitu,[59] synonymous with and giving rise to Lilith (Hebrew לילית) and her daughters the Lilu from Hebrew demonology. Lilitu was considered a demon and was often depicted as subsisting on the blood of babies. However, the Jewish counterparts were said to feast on both men and women, as well as newborns.[59]
I think HBM of the SORE said it best on the Palestin/Israel conflic'
"Is not Isreal like the USA, is not Israel fightin the injuns were not the manifest destiny gawds chose peeple?? Say ye untoth e LORD, so if an enire indidgent race of ada MEN is engulfed in SmallPDX comforterters dis not thewill of the best LORD dat GreenSPAN FED-RES-NOTE can BUY = I SAY YE DA LORD??? ID SPEEEKEETH YEA?? EH??
So EYE esayteh unto theee at dis febbbl fuking hour, dat eethy go to thye shawaow of darknesssethuou see no BURNIN-SHRBUEBBB for nwoww dar eeee d aty atOREO who whow wist dom tha light ?>> AMEN
"BULL announces 'unattended death' in Tri-County area"
2 found fatally shot in Madras apartment
Police are describing it as a murder-suicide, but inquiry is ongoing
By Hillary Borrud / The Bulletin
Published: January 05. 2009 4:00AM PST
A young man and woman were found dead in their Madras apartment on Saturday evening in what police described as a murder-suicide.
It was 26-year-old Hanna Crowe’s birthday on Saturday, when Madras police and Jefferson County sheriff’s deputies found her dead in the apartment she shared with her partner, 21-year-old Julian Wallulatum, according to a news release from the Madras Police Department.
Police and sheriff’s deputies were dispatched to the Willow Creek Apartments on Northeast Oak Street at approximately 6 p.m. Saturday to investigate a report of an “unattended death,” and found Crowe and Wallulatum dead, according to the release.
Wallulatum had just turned 21 on Friday. According to The Associated Press, Madras police Sgt. Dennis Schneider said Crowe and Wallulatum were fatally shot, but Schneider declined to release more information. He said both victims were members of the Warm Springs tribe.
A preliminary investigation suggests the deaths were the result of a domestic dispute, according to the news release, but the investigation is ongoing. The release listed Crowe as the victim and Wallulatum as the suspect.
Willow Creek resident Sherrill Eaton, who said she lives next door to the couple, said she was home Saturday when police and sheriff’s deputies were summoned to the apartments, but she did not hear anything.
Eaton said she did not know the couple very well. “All I knew was the kids,” she said.
There were four children living in the apartment with Crowe and Wallulatum, Eaton said, although she did not know whether they were Crowe’s children or cousins.
“She’s lived here for quite some time,” Eaton said.
"Fuck YOU shit for brains dunc, we're talking 1998, not 1980's."
What? All the growth? All the seeds of growth?
Or you just got here?
Or you just noticed?
For all your talk about being here in the '80's, you apparently weren't paying much attention.
No slow growth policy ever had a chance, no one got elected who wasn't gung ho, and that has pretty much continued to this day.
Only thing that controlled the rampant growth in the slightest was the state land use laws, when they weren't being subverted, and ODOT.
Every mover and shaker came out of that time period, except johnny come latelys like Sebastion, who didn't understand that it was all a quick grab for money before it all fell apart, and/or a long term strategy of build and mothball, build and mothball.
You really think this all started in 1998?
If you want to see where the "home ownership" mindset is heading:
Car-free? In Japan, that's how a generation rolls
No need - Younger people think owning wheels is too much trouble, a trend the industry fears will continue
Tuesday, January 06, 2009
YURI KAGEYAMA
The Associated Press
TOKYO -- To get around the city, Yutaka Makino hops on his skateboard or rides commuter trains. Does he dream of the day when he has his own car? Not a chance.
Like many Japanese of his generation, the 28-year-old musician and part-time maintenance worker says owning a car is more trouble than it's worth, especially in a congested city where monthly parking runs as much as 30,000 yen ($330), and gas costs 100 yen a liter (about $3.50 a gallon).
cont...
more...
That kind of thinking -- which automakers in Japan have dubbed "kuruma banare," or "demotorization" -- is a U-turn from earlier generations of Japanese who viewed car ownership as a status symbol. The trend is worrying Japan's auto executives, who fear the nation's love affair with the auto may be coming to an end.
Looks like someone is reading this here blog....
Don’t drink the Kool-Aid
HOW WILL OREGON weather the economic storm in comparison to the rest of the nation? This question is at the top of the list for local policymakers and firms. Oregon may not be the worst hit in the nation this time around, but don’t overestimate our strengths, especially with regard to housing. Moreover, with the nation headed into the worst recession since the 1980s, even doing better than average might not be enough to avoid a repeat of the 2001 recession in Oregon.
It is true that Oregon housing prices have not fallen as dramatically as in other parts of the nation. But it is premature to find this comforting; instead, it leaves me apprehensive. Consider that the 20-city composite S&P/Case-Shiller measure of existing home prices peaked in July 2006 and fell 4.4% over the next 13 months. By August of this year, prices were down 20.3%. Compare this national measure to recent home price trends in Portland. The S&P/Case-Shiller index for Portland reports that home prices peaked in July 2007, and 13 months later were down 7.8% — a greater decline than experienced nationally 13 months after the peak.
In other words, Portland’s declines are relatively more extreme compared to the peak, with further downside ahead. And the problem of falling home prices is not limited to Portland; it is a statewide phenomenon. A study by Global Insight/National City ranks three Oregon cities — Bend, Portland and Eugene — among the top 10 most overvalued housing markets in the nation as of the second quarter of 2008, with prices too high by margins of 46.6%, 35%, and 30.9%, respectively. This may be the best time to buy in 20 years, but the future will be even better.
Using conventional underwriting standards, the mix of housing remains too expensive relative to the income of Oregonians, and prices need to adjust accordingly. The end result will be an economy less dependent on housing as an engine of growth, which means a period of transition as we shed housing-dependent jobs. Moreover, with the mix of new homes in the future shifting toward affordable housing, reliance on construction of overpriced, unaffordable homes to bolster tax revenues is a thing of the past.
Unfortunately, there is little to replace the economic hole opened by the deteriorating housing market. Export activity no longer looks like it will cushion much if any of growing economic distress. The value of the dollar has suddenly shifted directions, rising significantly against a broad range of currencies since the middle of the year. The U.S.-centered financial crisis has spread well beyond our borders, threatening global growth and the demand for our exports. And, it is often forgotten that a large portion of the surge in Oregon exports is attributable to the commodity price boom. With commodity prices now in virtual free fall, Oregon exports will suffer.
Ironically, the export sector that looked like an asset in the first half of this year may turn into a liability in the second. While we are on the topic of falling commodity prices, note that the reversal of record high energy costs will slow the development of green energy, the hoped-for engine of Oregon’s economic future.
Not surprisingly, Oregon’s labor market is showing signs of severe stress. Nonfarm payrolls declined by 17,300 in August and September combined. Note that the largest two-month decline during the 2001-2003 period was 13,900 in March and April of 2003 — the recent pace of net job losses is already more extreme than that of the last recession! And the bulk of the recession remains ahead of us, not behind. I expect the economic landscape will be characterized by recessionary conditions through at least the middle of 2009, implying an extended period of job losses. These losses will weigh heavily on Oregon’s fiscal position. While compared to the last recession, Oregon is fortunate to have a $600 million rainy day fund, but it will seem a drop in the bucket if economic activity contracts as sharply as I anticipate.
Local pride is an asset, but we should not let cheerleading lead to complacency. Policymakers and the business community need to stop drinking the “Oregon is different” Kool-Aid and recognize that with the national economy heading into what is likely the worst recession since the early 1980s, Oregon almost certainly faces an economic downturn that exceeds that of 2001-2003. The prudent approach in this environment is to plan for the worst, and hope for the best.
Tim Duy is an adjunct professor of economics at the University of Oregon and director of the Oregon Economic Forum. His views do not represent the views of the University of Oregon.
To comment, email feedback@oregonbusiness.com.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- In a sign that further weakening may be in store for the U.S. housing market, an index of sales contracts on previously owned U.S. homes fell 4% in November from the prior month, the National Association of Realtors reported Tuesday. The index, which is considered a leading indicator of existing home sales, was down 5.3% from the prior year. Pending home sales in November fell in all four regions, with declines of 7.2% in the Northeast, 6.7% in the Midwest, 2.4% in the West and 2.2% in the South. The October pending home sales index was revised to a decline of 4.2% from a prior estimate of a 0.7% drop. NAR is calling for a real-estate focused stimulus plan from the government.
My emphasis.
OK, I am going to become a FULL PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS!
Cuz I have been saying this shit for TWO YEARS, while Tim Duy has been DRINKING THE FUCKING KOOL-AID!!
He's done innumberable interviews with The Bull telling us things will be just fine.
NOW, he uses terms like "DON'T DRINK THE "OREGON IS DIFFERENT" KOOL-AID".
WTF? Can I sue for PLAGIARISM HERE?
Man, I need an ECONOMIST JOB. Motherfuckers look out the SIDE-VIEW WINDOW and tell you what's happening RIGHT NOW.
Good job Duy! I will try to feed you more MATERIAL in the coming months. Feel free to take it all & claim as your own.
The October pending home sales index was revised to a decline of 4.2% from a prior estimate of a 0.7% drop.
Only off by 500%. Seems reasonable.
Local pride is an asset, but we should not let cheerleading lead to complacency. Policymakers and the business community need to stop drinking the “Oregon is different” Kool-Aid and recognize that with the national economy heading into what is likely the worst recession since the early 1980s, Oregon almost certainly faces an economic downturn that exceeds that of 2001-2003. The prudent approach in this environment is to plan for the worst, and hope for the best.
Well, at least he got that WRONG. This AIN'T going to be the worst recession since the early 80's.
It's going to be the worst recession of our generation, cuz it's NOT GOING TO BE A RECESSION. It's a FUCKING DEPRESSION.
The prudent approach in this environment is to plan for the worst, and hope for the best.
Duy obviously doesn't understand the power of PR/MARKETING.
Dude, you wanna know why people are starving in Africa? It's cuz the motherfuckers stand around doing NOTHING, when they SHOULD BE MARKETING.
See, when flies be buzzing around your motherfucking mouth, the town well's gone dry, and your mud hut just turned to shit, YOU NEED MARKETING. When your flat-ass broke, busted, never going to see another fucking cent, like Bend, YOU MARKET YOUR WAY OUT. You wanna end up like fucking Rwanada, then just don't do no MARKETING.
Yeah, that motherfucking MARKETING is a cure-all.
Lien times hit construction
STATEWIDE The steep hillside overlooking the Willamette River is a Portland residential community without residents. On one side of Seymour Court, all of the newly built homes are either for sale or for rent. On the other side of the street, seven townhouses and eight condominiums stand not quite finished, an ambitious project swamped by construction liens.
It’s an increasingly common scene in once-hot real estate markets from Eugene to Portland to Bend. Construction liens have doubled in Multnomah County and tripled in Washington County, and while other major metro counties throughout Oregon do not track those pleas for payment specifically, the anecdotal evidence suggests that the love affair between banks, developers, builders, suppliers and subcontractors is officially over.
“It’s not good when you don’t get your money,” says Mike Reed, a project manager for Pagh Custom Woodworking in Sandy. “Nobody likes to work for free.”
Pagh is one of a dozen or so subcontractors to file liens over the restoration of Block 90 of Portland’s Pearl District. The four-person shop is owed $47,120 and Reed is worried that the company may end up eating it. The point of a construction lien is to give debtors an incentive to pay the bills in order to complete the project. But in the case of Block 90, work was already finished by the time Pagh, Cascade Plumbing, Herinck Painting and other subcontractors filed their liens.
Even if a lien halts a project, there is no guarantee the money will follow. Milwaukie-based Trinity Carpet Brokers learned that the hard way, going bankrupt earlier this year after performing $1 million of unpaid work for Renaissance Homes. Renaissance has followed Trinity into bankruptcy, along with Legend Homes, formerly one of the largest homebuilders in Oregon.
Smaller subcontractors and suppliers hoping to avoid similar fates are growing increasingly aggressive in filing liens. Wilsonville Concrete Products recently filed six in a single day. “It’s our only way to protect our interests,” says general manager George Adams.
Canby-based Roth Heating and Cooling has filed “so many I can’t keep track,” says owner Kory MacGregor, who has had to lay off 60 employees over the past year.
And then there is the granddaddy of all Oregon construction liens: the $15.8 million owed to Hoffman Construction by the developers of Portland’s 194-condo Waterfront Pearl. Hoffman vice president Bart Eberwein says it is by far the largest lien the company has filed. If the bill is not paid, Hoffman could end up owning the entire development. “We try to avoid situations like this,” says Eberwein, “because the whole thing just trickles down and people get hurt.”
Hoffman is also ensnared in another high-profile project being torpedoed by liens, The Nines hotel above Macy’s in downtown Portland. Two subcontractors filed liens for a combined $6.5 million just days after invitations went out to the high-priced hotel’s grand opening in late October.
BEN JACKLET
He's done innumberable [sic] interviews with The Bull telling us things will be just fine.
I don't remember any. You got any specifics? Quotes, dates?
Dude, you wanna know why people are starving in Africa? It's cuz the motherfuckers stand around doing NOTHING, when they SHOULD BE MARKETING.
LMAO!!! That's fucking brilliant!
The Bend C of C, COAR and COBA and COVA should send a delegation over there to show 'em how it's done. All they gotta do is tell the world what a terrific LIFESTYLE they got. I hear the mountain biking in Darfur is TERRIFIC.
I don't think Duy was ever as rosy as the usual suspects the Bulletin likes to interview.
Well, I shouldn't hammer on Duy too much for plagiarizing stuff right off this blog.
This has been the ONLY place to find remotely accurate predictions in this 2 horse shithole town.
AT least the guy has stopped drinking his own Kool-Aid, and is admitting we're in for shit.
Re: NAR is calling for a real-estate focused stimulus plan from the government.
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Can't we just ignore them and work through our existing inventory?I know shooting them and leaving them for dead is not PC.
RE: “Nobody likes to work for free.”
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Heh...
Butter, did you see the cover of that mag?
GEARED UP
From businesses such as Nutcase Helmets to Bike Friday, Oregon’s bike madness fuels a $150 million industry. Not to mention that there’s an organized bike ride every 27 minutes.
I'm telling you, they are fucking heathens who do not believe in the real things like burning more oil and building more stuff.
>>NAR is calling for a real-estate focused stimulus plan from the government.
Wouldn't it make more sense for Realtors to let prices drop to the floor so they could finally get some commissions?
The BULL is one schizo newspaper. The print edition Biz section today has as it's top and center article "In Deschutes, resorts a top concern". The opening sentence states that locals "...spoke out overwhelmingly against destination resorts."
Directly below is a big picture of the Cyrus family, under the headline "From potatoes to putters"
A story about how this nice little family hopes to turn their golf course into a destination resort.
Truly fucking wierd.
No slow growth policy ever had a chance, no one got elected who wasn't gung ho, and that has pretty much continued to this day.
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That's not the point dunc.
The point is there has always been ...
no-growth
more-growth
My position is that in 1998 with Hollern's 'Smart Growth' the NO growth people, & MORE were neutered, the trouble is the 'smart growth' were just hand puppets ran by FULL-ON-GROWTH.
Regarding history, given that HOLLERN's mission back to the 1960's was always to develop, and that BEND has always been PUG, well yes, 'growth' has always been the goal, my position is that during the last ten years even the liberal 'no-growth' people were co-opted with the PUG smart-growth package.
Who gives a fuck today, we have a fucking mess, too many people and cars, and its fucking dangerous to walk or bike anywhere near the fucking round-about freeways ( 14th, newport, galveston, ... ). Probably good that the video across from newport is closing, crossing that street is a death sentence.
Yeh, livable, ... I call it fear.
Growth? I think the MAJORITY of BEND are hustlers, who wanted to flip and make $$$$ hell one only has to go to a city council meeting to see that, in Bend 99.999% of the people who ever testify only have one message "Where is mine".
We've argued this before. You think bubbles are created, I think they happen. They can be helped along, but you can't just create one anytime you feel like it, just like you can't keep them from popping.
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We've gone through this before DUNC, its why your a loser fucking min-wage business idiot, who still doesn't have any thing to show for his years of labor.
Not to fucking pick on you, but the elephant could be standing in front of you, and you wouldn't see it.
The FUCKING REASON that BEND is the most OVER-VALUED Real-Estate in the USA didn't just fucking happen.
It transpired by a well orchestrated team of marketing. Just like city-hall PAYING Outside-Magazine to say this is the best MTN-BIKING in the world in BEND-ORYGUN.
All things equal BEND wouldn't even be on the bubble list. But in 1998 HOLLERN lobbied for deferred and LOW SDDC's, and got city-hall to market the hell out of BEND, when the easy-money post 911(bush) came to town the fucking RE market exploded. What were you doing all that time? Picking your ass and reading comic books.
Nothing just happens, but a grown man who prefers a life of illusion to the read thing, I can see how they would think that reality just happens by magic.
Just like you think that OREO is going to fix your biz, and bring the tourists back to BEND.
That's the funny thing, you don't believe in the power of a well orchestrated CITY PR/MARKETING machine, but you believe that OREO the magic can wave his fucking wand and fix Bend. Simply fucking bizarre.
Duy obviously doesn't understand the power of PR/MARKETING.
Dude, you wanna know why people are starving in Africa? It's cuz the motherfuckers stand around doing NOTHING, when they SHOULD BE MARKETING.
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Homer, Ned Flanders doesn't either, nobody even in BEND, except the people running non-profit events, and PR/MARKET machine have any idea of how BEND the 'magic city' was created, and perpetuated.
Let's TALK reality, how come NONE of you fucking KUNTS is talking about the young family that blew their brains out in Madras?? That is the real fucking Central Oregon, and the whole world is watching.
Re: how come NONE of you fucking KUNTS is talking about the young family that blew their brains out in Madras??
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Too fucking depressing, and close to home...
Madras is the epicenter of the local meth and rock coke scene.
See, when flies be buzzing around your motherfucking mouth, the town well's gone dry, and your mud hut just turned to shit, YOU NEED MARKETING. When your flat-ass broke, busted, never going to see another fucking cent, like Bend, YOU MARKET YOUR WAY OUT. You wanna end up like fucking Rwanada, then just don't do no MARKETING.
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See Rwanda's just happen, and Aspen's just happen. Not a fucking thing to do with status-quo or planning, or orchestration.
All human events for all time just happen.
Stinking rotting corpses, flies, Bend Oregon comes to my mind. How did it happen? Just happened, shit happens.
We're the town, that don't care 'WHY', don't think 'WHY', and don't want to know 'WHY'.
We're 'Bend Exceptional', sunny over 300 day's a year, ...
Too fucking depressing, and close to home...
Madras is the epicenter of the local meth and rock coke scene.
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BULL FUCKING SHIP BP, DRW is the epicenter, and has been so for 20+ years.
Madras is where Mexican cocaine and heroin is distributed, but not where METH is cooked and produced.
Bend is METH country.
You think bubbles are created, I think they happen.
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GAWD-DAMN fucking christ are you the ONLY fuckhead here who hasn't read 'Grand popular delusion, and madness of the crowds'.
ALL fucking bubbles of the past five years came with the advent of the printing press.
They were ALL fucking media orchestrated.
Somebody please turn off the light switch at dunc's comic shop.
Just talking from seeing the felony cases in grand jury...
You're awfully gullible, Buster.
I suppose it fits with your paranoid delusions to believe that a cabal of local business and P.R. created all this. Hollern and Moss pushing buttons and pulling levers.
There's a great scene in the Hudsucker Proxy. Storekeeper puts hula hoops in the window.
"New! ONLY FIVE DOLLAR EACH!"
Time lapse photography, as the display gather dust, the hula hoops sag, prices drop and drop.
Finally you see the arms of the shopkeeper picking them out of the window and throwing them out the door.
They roll down the street. A kid picks one up and starts playing with it.
Time lapse in the window. Hula hoop is back. "Only 1.00."
"Good Price! 2.00!!"
"SOLD OUT!"
That's fads as I've experienced them. There is a couple of fad grabs in every months catalog, but usually the fads develop somewhere else, and THEN are marketed.
Bubbles are the same. All you can do is set the 'conditions' for them, but you can't will them into being. Nor can you will them from popping.
But then, Hollern and Moss become wave riders, not evil geniuses, and you got nothing to talk about.
See, when flies be buzzing around your motherfucking mouth,
[ Bend Suicides ]
the town well's gone dry,
[ powell butt & suterra ground water pollution ]
and your mud hut just turned to shit,
[ 10-20k Bend area STD's ... ]
YOU NEED MARKETING.
[ cova, cora, coba, ... COxA ]
When your flat-ass broke, busted, never going to see another fucking cent, like Bend,
YOU MARKET YOUR WAY OUT.
[ Let's have a bike event!!!! Golf is dead, now lets see how quick we can convert over 24 area golf course resorts into bike resorts!!! ]
Dunc,
Your confusing 'fads' in your world of cabbage patch dolls and trading-cards, with enormous bubbles that have transpired over the last 500 year.
Get off your lazy fucking ass and read 'grand popular delusions'.
Fad's are NOT fucking BUBBLE's DUNC,
I hate to use that word IDIOT, but you really should quit while your ahead DUNC, because your exposing why your such a fucking economic loser.
Bubbles are NOT the same.
The 'crowd' is a beast of its own.
Only a subset of BEND are obsessed with 'cards', comic-books, and dolls, and pet-rocks.
The Bend BUBBLE was not a fucking fad.
But so what, Ned believes that the 'magic negro' will create a new kind of comic-book fad, so hey its your reality, who am I to bash your reality.
ALL fucking bubbles of the past FIVE HUNDRED years came with the advent of the printing press.
They were ALL fucking media orchestrated.
ALL fucking bubbles of the past FIVE HUNDRED years came with the advent of the printing press.
[ BULL & SORE ]
They were ALL fucking media orchestrated.
[ HOLLERN owns the BULL, and MOSS controls the BULL (West-Comm), and city of BEND pays for the BULL (Hollern$5Mland) ]
He's done innumberable [sic] interviews with The Bull telling us things will be just fine.
I don't remember any. You got any specifics? Quotes, dates?
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There's an early post I did a few days ago about DUY, and I'll quote it here if need be, but essentially in HBM's defense, the allegation is that DUY is a newbie to the OEF ( Oregon ECON Forum ), and has been quite opposed all along to the happy-face bullshit. You might be thinking about the NAR people that the BULL used to quote back in the best of days.
DUY has been negative all along about the false economy, and thus the BULL would NOT have covered his rhetoric.
If you carefully read the following, and this precedes the DUY article posted by homer today, you'll see that DUY has been in this 'I told you so' mode for quite a while. Also the use of the word 'kool aid' is quite national.
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Duy say's "Anything that could go wrong in BEND-ORYGUN, did go wrong", ... Really? or did they just get caught? The powers in NUMBERS is over, FRAUD being the NORM is BEND-OVER.
Anything That Could Go Wrong Did Go Wrong
The Gazette Times reports from Oregon. “After a months-long struggle to move through the city’s planning department and overcome objections by wetlands advocates, Ashwood Preserve is up for sale. The 9.52-acre parcel, which became a test case for a provision which allows a land owner to build on property even if it is mostly covered by natural features, has been stymied by a building industry that was quiet all year. It’s representative of the plight of Corvallis builders, who never really got off the ground in 2008.”
“Residential building ground almost to a halt in 2008. Just 44 permits for new residential building have been issued this year, half the number approved in 2007. At the end of last year, Legend Homes in Corvallis was upbeat about its prospects here. In June, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection when creditors came calling.”
“The Oregon company’s Corvallis projects — Stoneybrook and Willamette Landing, both offering new homes priced between $250,000 and $400,000 — had been largely completed before the troubles in the housing market. Another project brokered by Legend, Witham Oaks, remains in the same limbo that stalled Ashwood Preserve.”
“John Faulconer, a mid-valley builder for 10 years, hung up his tool belt this year and now sells existing real estate full time. ‘I just sold my own home for $550,000,’ he said. ‘A year and a half ago I could have gotten $750,000. It makes me sick.’”
The Oregonian. “State regulators are investigating a Bend firm that recently filed for bankruptcy after its owners used millions of customer dollars to fund their own business ventures, allegedly without permission. Summit 1031 Exchange’s owners said this week that they were short more than half of the $27.8 million in cash it owed to clients. The company said its problems are a result of loans it made during the real estate boom to Inland Capital Corp., a company owned by the same people who own and run Summit. Inland Capital Corp. then lent the money to other individuals and companies.”
“‘This is just horrible,’ said John Tennant, a Portland landowner whose family is owed $1 million. ‘We’ve hired an attorney, and we’ll be filing a lawsuit.’”
“Summit specialized in 1031 tax-deferred exchanges, a type of real estate investment that allows investors to defer paying federal taxes on gains from property sales. The largely unregulated exchanges are tax-deferred as long as sellers quickly reinvest their proceeds in similar properties.”
“Danae Miller of Bend said she turned to Summit looking to trade her 34-acre cattle farm near Bend for something larger. Summit now owes her $750,000. ‘I don’t know how in our lifetime we could ever recoup that money,’ she said.”
“News of what happened has surprised investors and business partners who said that Summit’s principals had strong reputations in the field and community. ‘They were very well regarded,’ said Dave Chambers, an accountant in Lake Oswego who ran Summit’s local office. ‘These guys in Bend got really good at this. These guys got too successful.’”
“Bend tied Atlantic City as the most overvalued market in the country in a report from research firm IHS Global Insight and National City Corp. Longview, Wash., had the fifth most overvalued market, Portland sixth, Eugene 10th, Salem 14th, Medford 21st. The firm bases the overvalued rankings on interest rates, household incomes, population densities and historic price trends.”
“The report provides further evidence that the housing crisis — after rolling through Sun Belt and Rust Belt states - — is clobbering Northwest markets the worst.”
“A South Waterfront condo once owned by a former U.S. Bank fraud investigator now doing time for embezzlement has resold for a discount of about 40 percent. David A. Shelofsky bought the 18th floor condo in June 2006 for $1.6 million. The condo went into foreclosure, and principal broker Philip Higgins listed it for $979,900 for the bank. He says it’s now under contract for a little less than the list price.”
“Shelofsky pleaded guilty in October 2006 to pocketing $1.5 million of the money he recovered from people accused of defrauding U.S. Bank. An accountant found that $583,000 of embezzled money went to properties Shelofsky purchased, including this condo. Shelofsky was sentenced to 37 months in federal prison last March.”
“Established Oregon economists scoffed a year ago when a younger colleague with a relatively new crystal ball declared: ‘A recession is likely imminent.’ As it turns out, University of Oregon economist Tim Duy, and his index of economic indicators, was closer to the target than even he imagined. Construction crashed, following the burst of the nation’s speculative housing bubble. Related sectors, such as wood products, manufacturing and the financial industry, also plunged. Foreclosures increased.”
“‘Anything that could go wrong did go wrong,’ Duy said this past week.”
“Eugenio Aleman, Wells Fargo & Co. senior economist, says federal monetary policy — injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy through the financial sector — is not helping those who need it the most. ‘It will not help those who are struggling to make ends meet, or have lost their jobs or who may soon lose them,’ Aleman said, ‘because no financial institution is going to lend them money to buy a home, no matter what the interest rate is.’”
The Peninsula Daily News from Washington. “Jefferson County’s assessor expects to hear some noise when his office sends out property tax assessment revaluation notices next August for the city of Port Townsend, just as he did after assessments for Chimacum and Port Ludlow came out earlier this year. The Port Townsend notices, which will be for 2010 taxes, will show average increases of 20 percent to 25 percent, Jack Westerman III said.”
“‘They’re going to say ‘Jack, you are out of your mind,’ said Westerman, who at 30 years in elected office is the state’s longest-standing county assessor.”
“The countywide taxable value has more than doubled since 1997 to 4.7 billion in 2007, Westerman said, with about half of that being new construction. ‘Port Ludlow is an area that has more turnover with so many retirees,’ Westerman explained.”
“Then there was the spike in Port Ludlow residential construction during 2005-2006 that glutted the market. ‘My biggest problem right now for me is the areas in Port Ludlow,’ he said.”
“This year, Westerman’s office put together data for the Port Townsend revaluation cycle. The cycle is from January 2005 to January 2009. ‘If you bought at the peak of the market in late ‘06 your value hasn’t done much but go down 15 percent,’ he said.”
“That, however, followed two years that each had 20 percent market-value increases in Port Townsend, he said.”
“Westerman points out that although Port Townsend-area homes sales have dramatically slowed since 2006, prices have not necessarily declined at the same pace. In fact, he said, many are selling for more than their 2005 assessed value. For example, Westerman said, an uptown Port Townsend home with a county assessed value of $290,000 in 2005 recently sold for $615,000.”
“Westerman produced documentation that shows his office’s assessed values from July 11, 2008, to mid-September were under sale prices by as much as 35 percent at the low end, and by 99.2 percent at most for the Port Townsend School District revaluation area, which includes Cape George, Kala Point, Discovery Bay and the West End. ‘There are fewer transactions to make decisions on, which makes it a little more difficult for anyone involved . . . It’s a tough time to figure out your fair market value,’ Westerman said.”
The Seattle Times from Washington. “Summing up the 2008 housing market, Glenn Crellin, was succinct: ‘Challenging at best,’ said the director of the Washington Center for Real Estate Research at Washington State University. ‘We clearly have a situation where consumers have exited the market, rightly or wrongly, on the presumption that housing prices are going to fall precipitously and they’ll be able to get tremendous bargains if they wait.’”
“As 2007 ended, Mike Scott, of Dupre + Scott Apartment Advisors, said renters should see rents rise and stiffer competition for apartments. The reasons: Tight mortgage lending was keeping many renters from becoming homeowners. Plus, many would-be buyers were taking a wait-and-see attitude toward home prices.”
“Well, some of that happened. Central Puget Sound rents climbed 7 percent in the past year, Scott said. Going forward, it would seem like the same factors Scott cited for this year would be in play again for 2009. But the apartment situation has changed considerably. For 2009 and 2010, Scott expects that vacancies will grow, but rents won’t.”
“However, the economy is deteriorating so rapidly that it’s hard to say exactly what that means. In September, Scott forecast that vacancies would reach almost 6 percent by early 2010. Then this month, he revised that upward to 7.3 percent.”
“Job losses decrease apartment demand because renters double up — one reason vacancies are expected to climb. The other big one is an increase in apartment construction. Scott says 2,620 units opened this year in 20-unit or larger buildings in King, Pierce and Snohomish counties. That’s about 500 more than had been predicted.”
“Currently, 8,900 units are under construction. Additionally, some buildings planned as condominiums may become apartments instead, and some apartments formerly converted to condos are being reconverted into apartments.”
The Seattle PI from Washington. “No surprise: Many Seattle-area real estate experts say the market slowdown was the biggest local real estate story of 2008. But there’s a lot less agreement about what to expect from 2009.”
“The median house price actually topped out at $481,000 in King County in July 2007 and $501,000 in Seattle in August. Last month, the medians were $415,000 in Seattle and $395,000 countywide, down 17.2 percent and 17.9 percent, respectively, from their peaks.”
“Spencer Rascoff, chief financial officer at Zillow, the Seattle-based online real estate site, said that given that nearly 14 percent of area homes have mortgages for more than they’re worth, massive job losses would bring another wave of foreclosures, stalling any recovery.”
“Unemployment was higher in 2002, but the housing market was strong then because people felt comfortable buying, said Bruce Williams, CEO of HomeStreet Bank. ‘Until people have confidence the economy is not in free fall, home sales will be down,’ he said.”
“Sean Hyatt, managing director of the Bellevue office of national apartment developer Trammell Crow Residential, focused on the mayhem itself. ‘The fact that this downturn is so multifaceted, with bad news coming from every angle, which in turn is leading us into one of the deepest recessions on record, is the most significant story,’ he said. ‘The failure of WaMu, the disappearance of the condo market, the commercial markets grinding to a halt, how quickly Seattle proved it wasn’t immune, again, and caught up with the national recession, and all the other negative events are just symptoms.’”
“The real shock came in August 2007, when mortgage lenders significantly tightened their standards. Declines in prices and sales continued into this year. The area showed signs of possible stabilization this summer, with pending sales actually up from a year earlier in September. But nationwide economic turmoil upended that, and pending sales dropped in November by more than 30 percent from a year earlier.”
“September’s turmoil, of course, included federal regulators seizing Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. and selling its branches, deposits and loans to New York-based JPMorgan Chase — the largest bank failure in U.S. history.”
“That was the biggest real estate story of the year, according to Richard Hagar, a Mercer Island appraiser who teaches anti-fraud classes and has been warning that lenders, including Washington Mutual, failed to ensure they made good loans. ‘They are the poster child of what is happening at many banks,’ Hagar said. ‘And all of the problems at WaMu are still going on right now today.’”
The New York Times. “As a supervisor at a Washington Mutual mortgage processing center, John D. Parsons was accustomed to seeing baby sitters claiming salaries worthy of college presidents, and schoolteachers with incomes rivaling stockbrokers’. He rarely questioned them. A real estate frenzy was under way and WaMu, as his bank was known, was all about saying yes.”
“Yet even by WaMu’s relaxed standards, one mortgage four years ago raised eyebrows. The borrower was claiming a six-figure income and an unusual profession: mariachi singer.”
“Parsons could not verify the singer’s income, so he had him photographed in front of his home dressed in his mariachi outfit. The photo went into a WaMu file. Approved. ‘I’d lie if I said every piece of documentation was properly signed and dated,’ said Parsons, speaking through wire-reinforced glass at a California prison near here, where he is serving 16 months for theft after his fourth arrest — all involving drugs.”
“While Parsons, whose incarceration is not related to his work for WaMu, oversaw a team screening mortgage applications, he was snorting methamphetamine daily, he said. ‘In our world, it was tolerated,’ said Sherri Zaback, who worked for Parsons and recalls seeing drug paraphernalia on his desk. ‘Everybody said, ‘He gets the job done.’”
“‘”It was the Wild West,’ said Steven M. Knobel, a founder of an appraisal company that did business with WaMu until 2007. ‘If you were alive, they would give you a loan. Actually, I think if you were dead, they would still give you a loan.’”
“The ultimate supervisor at WaMu was Kerry K. Killinger, who joined the company in 1983 and became chief executive in 1990. An investment analyst by training, he was attuned to Wall Street’s hunger for growth. Between late 1996 and early 2002, he transformed WaMu into the nation’s sixth-largest bank through a series of acquisitions.”
“A key deal came in 1999, with the purchase of Long Beach Financial, a California lender specializing in subprime mortgages, loans extended to borrowers with troubled credit. WaMu underscored its eagerness to lend with an advertising campaign introduced during the 2003 Academy Awards: ‘The Power of Yes.’ No mere advertising pitch, this was also the mantra inside the bank, underwriters said.”
“‘WaMu came out with that slogan, and that was what we had to live by,’ Zaback said. ‘We joked about it a lot.’ A file would get marked problematic and then somehow get approved. ‘We’d say: ‘OK! The power of yes.’”
Duy say's "Anything that could go wrong in BEND-ORYGUN, did go wrong", ... Really? or did they just get caught? The powers in NUMBERS is over, FRAUD being the NORM is BEND-OVER.
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This is an interesting thought by DUY, that no IRS prosecution had occurred earlier when so many people in BEND were involved in the fraud(s), but now that its over the number of people is less, and you don't piss of a whole town.
Interesting times.
“Established Oregon economists scoffed a year ago when a younger colleague with a relatively new crystal ball declared: ‘A recession is likely imminent.’ As it turns out, University of Oregon economist Tim Duy, and his index of economic indicators, was closer to the target than even he imagined. Construction crashed, following the burst of the nation’s speculative housing bubble. Related sectors, such as wood products, manufacturing and the financial industry, also plunged. Foreclosures increased.”
“‘Anything that could go wrong did go wrong,’ Duy said this past week.”
No slow growth policy ever had a chance, no one got elected who wasn't gung ho, and that has pretty much continued to this day.
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Well in a town where the PRESS is owned by real estate builders and devleopers, ...
Where the city-hall is dominated by builders and developers, ...
Who would have guessed that City Momentum would have opposed development??
Lastly, in a town where virtually every citizen would whore their own child for a nickel, which is typical of resource extraction town that has been converted to a 'tourist town'. Who would have guessed that everyone would not want to participate in the HELOC lifestyle.
Even the town comic-shop proprietor loves the tourist.
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