Thursday, January 1, 2009

A Look Back on our 2008 hero's: Hollern, Smith, Denton and Osama.

Wow.

I can't believe this crazy-ass blog has survived over 2 years! My first post was Dec 17, 2006:

And to explictly state what this blog is about: Bend Oregon Real Estate, whether it is or has been in a bubble or not, whether this bubble is/has burst, implications for residents, businesses and others, and just about any topic relevant to the Bend Oregon economy and the surrounding region, and housing in general. With unmoderated discussion, I suppose anything goes though. Hopefully, people will realize the value of staying on topic, and will minimize personal "flame-wars".

I was so much younger then. And naive. In fact here is a picture of me eating breakfast right after that first post:

"Hey, give that to me. I eat anything."

And the greatest harbinger of things to come were the fanatastic 2 comments I received:

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Both almost bought a tear to my eye, especially the blog-spam one. Oh right, they were both blog spam. Here's a picture of me crying, I'm so overwhelmed:

IHTBYB crying his eyes out. (I am directly behind Britney in this pic, and only partially visible)

My next post, the very next day, had precisely zero comments. I think I finished out the year with a post of such gut-wrenching emotion and tenderness that one commenter was moved to pen these touching words:

Anonymous said...

this post is so dull that, after reading it, i wanted to claw my eyes out.

That's when I knew I had found my true calling: Inflicting pain on strangers via real estate blogging. Judging from the number of gouged out eyes I've seen in Bend, I would have to say: Mission Accomplished:

I love Bend Bubble 2 and Osama!

So there were humble beginnings. And most of the initial postings & comments were of a "defensive" nature: Even the idea that Bend was in a Bubble was widely derided as Insane. And there were some people who even denied (Bubble deniers) that a nationwide Bubble existed. Remember that?

Cuz, if you really remember that time, and contrast it with today, and what has transpired since, it just seems unbelievable. Bend was still caught in just an endless euphoria about the future. Bend is Immune was the mantra.

  • deep, now closed, hadn't even opened way back then.
  • Sally Heatherton had not yet been "born".
  • Forum Meadows owner turned down ALL auction "offers" for his sacred Bend homes, before going broke.
  • Brooks resources blew out their River Wild condos at Mt Bach Village.
  • Yarrow & Ironhorse hadn't begun sales.
  • The collapse of the home builders stock prices was as bad as anyone thought it'd get.
  • No Bend developers had committed suicide.
  • At the time Columbia Aircraft was alive & well.
  • No layoffs at Brightwood.
  • Seaswirl still alive.
  • No firings at City Hall.
  • Fannie & Freddie in the in the $70's.
  • The DJIA had yet to hit 14,000, and fall to the 7,000's.
  • CACB hit $32 in the last week on 2006. Now $6 and change.
  • The Shire was still the proud brainchild of The Hatchery.
  • Becky Breeze still owned The Plaza.
  • Residential sales in Bend were in the hundreds per month.
  • Medians hit $396,250 in May 2007.
  • BendBB had not yet stricken any of my comments.
  • Buster had not called any of us Stincking Smelly Cunts.
  • I had not yet uttered, "It will get worse than you can possibly imagine."
  • People actually Raised their asking prices back then. Really!
  • That Olive & Nut store had yet to open & close.
  • I had not yet voted Dunc for Mayor.
  • We barely knew what SubPrime is, and no one knew what Alt-A was.
  • Citicorp was still the largest financial org the World had ever seen.
  • No bailouts of banks, automakers, or anyone else.
  • Lehamn was still alive & kicking. Smith Barney too.
  • No Cessna layoff's locally yet. The buyout was a "huge success".
  • Unemployment was below 4% in Bend.
  • Not a one Single Family Home was below $100/sf in Bend. No a single one.
  • I had not yet lost my bet to BendBB that medians would go below $300K.
  • Renaissance Homes was still smitten with Randy Sebastians flesh-eating AIDS.
  • Holtz-Tek had not yet blackmailed our fair city out of Millions for JR "Master Plan".
  • BEM had not yet penned his "cure" for Broken Bend.
  • I had yet to post my first Picto-Plummet.
  • I had yet to introduce into our lexicon the terms "Cali-Banger", "STD's" or "Flipper Bait".
  • The Oregonian had yet to run "Death and Specualtion in Bend".
  • Pronghorn & Brasada were still above the fray, and "selling out" on Day 1.
  • Volo was still a glimmer in Bledsoe's donkey-cum-encrusted eye.
  • The WSJ had yet to expose man-birthing or clothesline propoganda to the World.
  • The ferris wheel blackmail of Broken Top had yet to occur.
  • Bend was still in the grips of Tuscan mania.
  • The Redmond water park would save us all from Central Oregons terrible seasonality with high-paying lifeguard jobs.
  • We did not yet know that NOW is "The best time to buy in 20 years".
  • Bend was still the most overvalued city in the country.
  • Baby Jeebus had not yet smited us.
  • I had not yet declared Bend the Best 3rd World City ever.
  • Trono's Mercato had it's Australian financing All Lined Up.
  • Norma DuBois had sold out Franklin Crossing for the 18th time.
  • Measure 37 made every hillbilly Oregonian farmer a land baron.
  • Tiny Ashwood OR took the prize for most ambitious housing development: 5,500 homes in a town of 120 people.
  • NAR economist David Lereah still encouraged the financial merits of home ownership.
  • Crook County had not yet approved resort properties that would saddle the area with 75 years of inventory.
  • We didn't have a fleet of busted BAT buses.
  • The city hadn't lost multi-million dollar lawsuits regarding water systems and whatnot.
  • The August 2006 inventory top was still "temporary".
  • We still hadn't been shown how to get rich losing millions by Don Bauhofer (aka Bauhumper).
  • The Incredible Hulce continued to pander to RE developers in her completely discredited rag.
  • We were yet to be introduced to the merits of Capstone Turbine Buttplugs.
  • We were yet to receive a lesson in thermodynamics by a dude who dragged a tire behind his car to power his car, a guy who turned water into gas, and a company that turned trash into fuel.
  • I had yet to recommend Rent & Invest The Difference as The Only Investment Plan you could be sure of in a place like Bend.
  • There were many, Many businesses, largely invisible, that were still open, that have vanished in the meantime. Most mortgage brokers are in this category.
  • Re/Max was still open. So was Sunriver Realty.
  • COBA, COVA & the rest hadn't BOUGHT our City Councilors election for pennies on the dollar.
  • My prediction of a collapse in California RE was still widely ridiculed: "California is Immune."
  • 1031, Merenda, deep and other accessories of wealth for Bend's elite still held their glistening facade.
  • NOD's were not measured in the THOUSANDS here.
  • We had yet to have our first 1,000+ comment week.
  • The City was not perilously close to bankruptcy.
  • Black dudes were known for beatin' they wives, smokin the cracker, fuckin, and shootin whitey, not being President.

And there is probably more. Much more. The point?

It's been a hell of an eventful couple of years. Most of the real crazy shit has happened in the last 6 months. I mean The Giants of The Financial Universe have been hobbled.
Cathy Bates administer Good Olde Fashioned Hobbling. Feels so good.

I guess my main point is this: Having seen how far we've come, how people like Jody Denton's business eyes were too big for their stomach, you might want to exercise some restraint. Because this thing is, AT MOST, about half over.

We have gone from $396K medians to $239K, that's down 40% from top to bottom. Another 40% down is Very, Very Easily possible, which would take us down to $143K.

Folks, when we hit medians in the $140's, and it will happen, Bend is not going to be a place that about 70-75% of the population even recognizes. The old codgers will, but it will be the 4 Bees that rule the roost: Butter, Beans, Bullets, and Bullion.

This place will be like a hyper-magnified version of much of the US. We aren't going to sink back into the Stone Age, like some have posted here (IMO), but we will NEVER return to the hyper-consumption-fueled prosperity of the past 3 decades. That time is over.

But you'd do well to read into Denton's comments about What He Is Doing Now.

He's Leaving Bend, and He's Leaving Oregon.

“I had a very long and prosperous career before I came to Bend,” he said, “and I’ll do what’s best for me and my family. It will definitely be outside of the state of Oregon.”

He's telling us something.

When all is said and done, Bend, In The Best Of Times, left this very talented & decent person, completely broken. Broken financially yes, but worse, just broken from the experience.

“Getting to this point has been stressful and difficult,” the chef said. “For my wife and myself, there was a sense of relief once the decision was made.”

Once you make the decision, once you realize that you can stop fighting the impossible battle, there is a Huge Sense Of Relief. Denton is a talented guy, a guy with resources, a guy with a plan & the ability to execute: And this place broke him.

And I have to give him credit for one of The Best Lines Ever from a Bend Businessman quoted in The Bulletin:

“But the question became: How wise is it to keep feeding this thing when all it does is eat?”

I will leave it at that.
I hope no one notice I stuffed that motherfucking BendBubble2 blog in my humungous smelly twat! The coast looks clear! I gonna make a run for it! Happy New Year you fuckers! I hope you suffocate & die in my smelly cunt!

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Duncan McGeary said...

Try to pick a day you could better dump bad news.

Other than New Year's Eve or Christmas Eve, and THAT would be a little TOO obvious.

They're hoping no one will notice, but I suspect this will gather steam.

We need places like the Portland Housing Blog and The Housing Blog to notice...

Anonymous said...

Yeah... if you want Good-News-Only, Everything-Is-Fine, Real-Estate-Only-Goes-Up, Bury-Your-Head-In-The-Sand, I'll-Tell-You-When-Your-Opinion-Counts, You're-Onlt-Becky-Breeze-When-I-Say-You-Are, IP-Monitored-Comments managed bullshit, then you'd like BendBB.

You talk as if the only options are "total censorship" or "anything goes." That's a false choice and you know it. Those anti-Semitic rants have nothing to do with real estate or the economy. The asshole is just venting his irrational anger and hate. You don't have to give him a forum to do it in.

MrBruce said...

But if you try to post your moronic anti-Semitic drool on the Source site I guarantee it WILL be deleted -- as it should be.
- hbm SORE admin

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But let's define what HBM means by "ANTI SEMITIC".

Anything NOT COVA approved, or MOSS stamped, or HOLLERN paid-for is 'anti-semitic'.

I love this rhetoric, HBM lives on his blog, publishes daily, but NEVER deletes content, it happens by magic, ... this is another PUG tradition, to suggest that 'shit just happens' all by itself.

BENDBB says the same thing, has no fucking idea how comments or entire threads just fucking disapear, no fucking idea, ...

Why is it that everytime HBM PUG-KUNT in LIB clothes gets called for what he is, he runs away??

WHY? Because he can't exists in a free forum, he can ONLY exist in a forum where he can delete all rebuttals.

He simply doesn't know what to do when he can't delete the oppositions post's, so he runs and hides, and then crawls back in a few days.

MrBruce said...

We need places like the Portland Housing Blog and The Housing Blog to notice...

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CLIT ( portland housing blog ) is exactly like BENDBB with HALOSCAN admin, he now can delete any post that he doesn't agree with.

It's not very interesting.

MrBruce said...

patrick.net is probably the only national that's interesting the guy has an open mind, email him direct sometime, he'll discuss any issue with a heart.

clit ( clint@portlandhousing ) is an exact replica of BENDBB, something about these RE blogs attract PUG's.

MrBruce said...

You fucking Delete ALL over at your SORE - EYE

I don't delete anything on that site. I don't have the authority to.

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Its your fucking BLOG HBM, the SORE-EYE on the SORE.

The ONLY fucking TECH-IDIOT in this forum is YOU&DUNC.

Don't fucking tell us that you know how to publish, but not fucking delete comments on your own fucking blog.

Who does delete? Little anti-semites on the night shift?

Switzer is TOO FUCKING busy with his two dozens EVENT-PROMOTION rackets to fuck with the SORE BLOG, its your fucking monster,

MrBruce said...

Good-News-Only, Everything-Is-Fine, Real-Estate-Only-Goes-Up, Bury-Your-Head-In-The-Sand, I'll-Tell-You-When-Your-Opinion-Counts, You're-Onlt-Becky-Breeze-When-I-Say-You-Are, IP-Monitored-Comments managed bullshit

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Everything else that is NOT the above shall be considered ANTI-SEMITIC so says the BULL&SORE, and COVA.

MrBruce said...

Dunc brought it up, but like our fucking Summit-1031.

Everyone on the team is Jewish except Stevens.

They hired the best Jewish law firm in PDX to handle their Bankruptcy.

They run "Zions Gate Ministeries" a Christian ORG, that takes christians to ISRAEL to show them what monsters that Palestians are. This is the same church that BUSH & CONDI belong too.

Oh, but HBM will tell you that Summit-1031 partners aren't Jewish, he'll tell you their Taoists.

HOLLERN is a Jesuit, and Moss is a Buddhist.

MrBruce said...

You talk as if the only options are "total censorship" or "anything goes."

[ middle ground - the hbm way, or hte high-way ]

That's a false choice and you know it.

[ the hbm way is the true way, by gods chosen people ]

Those anti-Semitic rants have nothing to do with real estate or the economy.

[ If you don't love the SORE&BULL, then your anti-semitic ]

The asshole is just venting his irrational anger and hate. You don't have to give him a forum to do it in.

[ Anybody in BEND that tells the truth about the BEND&SORE being conjoined twins and sharing HOLLERN's common asshole is a hate-monger. ]

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You can't say that HBM doesn't stick to the company book.

MrBruce said...

let's define what HBM means by "ANTI SEMITIC".

Anything NOT COVA approved, or MOSS stamped, or HOLLERN paid-for is 'anti-semitic'.

Duncan McGeary said...

I meant to say,

"I"LL take the High Road, and YOU take the Low Road...."

Like I said, Buster. I'm done. If the subject keeps coming up, it's you.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Those anti-Semitic rants have nothing to do with real estate or the economy...

Dude, if you EVER lived anywhere outside of WHITE BREAD Cent OR, you'd KNOW racisim/anti-semitism has a LOT to do with RE & Business.

You think they made up NON-PROFILING laws for NO REASON? RE & Business, like every other fucking thing, is implicitly tied to race... but as Buster said, talking to ANYONE whose been in Cent OR for more than a decade about race or racism is like talking to a virgin about sex.

MrBruce said...

Prices won't really come down hard until the banks cry uncle. And that will take some time, because they can't just unload all that stuff at what it would take to unload it without going broke.

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We haven't really hit 1932 "REAL ESTATE PARALYSIS" until now.

This past week the OREGONIAN told us that any banker that loaned money in BEND-ORYGUN was a fucking LOSER IDIOT.

This is the KISS of death, now we move into CASH-ONLY sales, via NOD,FORE-CLOSE, and SHORT-SALE.

In the coming year those who must sell, will drop the price.

Like todays CACB books, we know that their non-performing assets is killing them, but because of stock-buy back they look like champs. Given that years more of the same will transpire, in time CACB will run out of CASH to buy their own stock, and nobody is gong to loan them money.

"Real Esate Paralysis" From the great depression. Buyers couldn't buy, and sellers couldn't sell.

Not until the US Government stepped in with new federal guaranteed MTG programs did the housing market start moving, with loss of jobs, more people will walk from the homes.

Price is really not the issue APU, even tomorrow at $100k median, there would be no point in BUYING here, unless you were rich & retired. There were never any long term secure jobs, only gold rush jobs. Now the gold has been depleted.

Downtown will become plywood. SURVIVORS will MOVE DOWN. I have already seen that ALL my big builder friends sold their BIG-ACREAGE 2+ years ago, and now live in small inner city homes, to weather the storm.

The outskirt STD shit will go to seed. The inner shit will be like its always been. The downtown core, and I97 will return to plywood, almost all the BIG-BOX stores on I97 will close, the old mill will become a ghost town.

Anonymous said...

The zionist's love the dumb gentile's, they work like an animal for the cause. In fact they (gentile) are an animal in the view of the zionist. Think it's racist drool? Read up you fuckin libs!! Look into who your hero Obomba has surrounded himself with. Why no public criticism of the bombing in Gaza? It's political suicide to speak against the great Zionist mission. Republican/Democrat no fucking difference, all Zionist owned.
If you think the Obomba mule isn't going to be used to wage complete war on the arabs in the middle east think again. Israel is in the business of war so therefore their puppet nation U.S.A. will be at war.



sp

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I have probably railed HARDER on WHITE BURNS HILLBILLIES than any group in existence. Never heard a bad word.

Not on LIB "hit-list".

Australians? Same.

Asians? Same.

Canadians? Same.

The fuckin' Irish? Same.

MrBruce said...

You think they made up NON-PROFILING laws for NO REASON?

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Hell yes, but do you think for a moment that its in the SORE/BULL's interest for a fair and honest econonmic debate.

Anybody notice here, that its ONLY when DUNC&HBM appear that they start the anti-semitic bullshit. That when we're left alone here, that we actually 99% of the time debate the bend economy.

Case in POINT, and excellent point, and I review 2+ years ago, but a builder I know in Madras & Redmond pointed out that it was the MEXICANS that were buying the SHIT HOUSES in REDMOND & MADRAS that was allowing the white-trash to sell and move up to STD's in the mcMansions, so they could get BEND RICH.

The BEND BOOM was everything about RACE.

In fact HOMER may remember but once-upon-a-time even the BULL mentioned that MEXICANS were driving our economy. Of course now there are no jobs for them, so they got hit hard and are leaving, or running drugs up I97.

Blacks, we don't have any to speak of so not a issue, jews? Our Jews all deny being Jews.

Bewert said...

Anyone see anything about this S-3 CACB filed on 12/22/08?:

Item 8.01 Other Events
Cascade Financial Corporation (Nasdaq: CASB) announced today that the Company filed a shelf registration statement on Form S-3 with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") on December 19, 2008. The shelf registration statement, when declared effective by the SEC, registers the shares of series A preferred and the warrant the Company issued to the U.S. Treasury on November 21, 2008 for $38,970,000, and the
863,442 shares of common stock reserved for exercise of the warrant, and will allow the Company to raise up to $60 million of additional capital
from time to time, through the sale of common stock, preferred stock, senior debt securities, subordinated debt securities, purchase contracts, units, warrants and rights.

The information contained in this Item 8.01 disclosure included with this Current Report, is being furnished pursuant to Item 7.01 and shall not be deemed "filed" for purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the "Exchange Act"), or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that Section, nor shall such information be deemed to be incorporated by reference into any filing under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the "Securities Act"), or the Exchange Act, except as otherwise stated in the such filing.

This report may contain "forward-looking statements" that are subject to risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements describe management’s expectations regarding future events and developments. Readers should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, which reflect management’s views only as of the date hereof. The words "should," "anticipate," "expect," "will," "believe," and words of similar
meaning are intended, in part, to help identify forward-looking statements. Future events are difficult to predict, and the expectations described above are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those anticipated, estimated or expected. In addition to discussions about risks and uncertainties set forth from time to time in the Company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated in these forward-looking statements include, among others: (1) the extent and duration of continued economic and market disruptions and governmental actions to address these disruptions; (2) the risk of new and changing legislation, regulation and/or regulatory actions; (3) pending litigation; (4) local and national general and economic conditions; (5) changes in interest rates; (6) reductions in loan demand or deposit levels; and (7) changes in loan collectibility, defaults and charge-off rates. Cascade Financial Corporation does not undertake to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements were made. Any such statements are made in reliance on the safe harbor protections provided under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended.

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Hmmm, market cap under $200M, filing for another $100M of dilution...

Yeah, you wouldn't want to mention this and break the $5 barrier, would you.

CACB is starting to smell real bad.

Anonymous said...

the zionist's love the dumb gentile's,

*

Hardcore shit dude, but you tell the truth, ...

Another TRUTH MADE-OFF or SUMMIT-1031, why the BILLIONS?

To feed the ISRAEL war machine.

A lot of bubble-money got shipped off to Israel to buy cluster-bombs from the USA. To be used on Lebanon and Gaza.

Our Summit-1031 boyz right here in ORYGUN were running their own ZION collection fund using GOYIM fund money, not a fraud, not when you can use the victims own money to hire the best lawyers money can buy.

Bewert said...

Yep, not a whisper on Google News:

http://news.google.com/news?morenews=10&rating=1&tab=en&hl=en&q=NASDAQ:CACB&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

Now this is a fucking classic arbitrage situation. Where can you short CACB on the weekend?

MrBruce said...

Yeah, you wouldn't want to mention this and break the $5 barrier, would you.

CACB is starting to smell real bad.

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Can't be, MOSS just won an award for the best bank in the USA, and in the same week the Oregonian called banks that loaned in BEND fucking idiots, but NOTE they never dropped a fucking name. Just said the 'fucked banks' had done business in BEND.

HOMER has had CACB on his tombstone for over a year. So we all knew it was going down. The interesting thing is when it goes down, almost all of DOWNTOWN will fall with CACB overnight.

tim said...

Are you even allowed to short banks now? I've lost track.

There are some thinly traded 7.50 and 10.00 strike puts you can buy. Bid/ask is outrageous.

tim said...

>>The interesting thing is when it goes down, almost all of DOWNTOWN will fall with CACB overnight.

Can you elaborate on that? How would that process play out?

MrBruce said...

WHOOPEE SORE/BULL KUNTS - WITH BEND Un-Employment at Depression levels, the unemployment office to be open now on saturday.

Employment office to be open Saturdays
Mail Tribune, OR - Jan 2, 2009
Tauer said the unemployment rate in Medford is higher than in Portland, Salem or Corvallis but lower than Bend, where it's nearly 10 percent. ...

Anonymous said...

Listen up Libs!!
Homework time!!

The Israel Lobby

by John Mearshimer & Stephen Walt

Read before spewing more shit out of your mouths.



SP

MrBruce said...

Admired for what? Perpetual Motion? Cooked Books? Longest living Zombie Bank??

###

Cascade Bancorp (Oregon) Named in Oregon's Top Ten Most Admired Companies

Last update: 7:40 p.m. EST Dec. 16, 2008
BEND, Ore., Dec 16, 2008

Bank of the Cascades has been named one of the Business Journal's Most Admired Companies in Oregon, based on a survey of Oregon CEOs. Bank of the Cascades was honored in the financial services category.

Bewert said...

Found two little mentions:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&nolr=1&q=Cascade+Financial+mixed+shelf&btnG=Search

This has been absolutely buried.

MrBruce said...

Yeh, I think Denton said it best ... But now we'll let Moss speak ...

"We're delighted to be included in this list of outstanding Oregon companies," said Patricia L. Moss, president and CEO of Cascade Bancorp and CEO of Bank of the Cascades. "I am proud and appreciative of the commitment to excellence demonstrated by our team of bankers on behalf of customers and community."
Bank of the Cascades offers full-service community banking through 33 branches in Central Oregon, Southern Oregon, Portland, Salem and Boise/Treasure Valley.

MrBruce said...

Tauer said the unemployment rate in Medford is higher than in Portland, Salem or Corvallis but lower than Bend, where it's nearly 10 percent. ...

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In SORE/BULL BITCH-SPEAKing to MEDFORD what they're saying is ... "HEY meth-cooks, it could be worse you could be cooking meth in BEND, where there are almost zero fucking product consumers for meth."

Duncan McGeary said...

You could've just said, "I'm not racist or anti-semetic."

You can still say, "I'm not racist or anti-semetic."

Then we can agree that none of us are racist or anti-semetic and move on to talking about real estate and business and stuff.

MrBruce said...

The Israel Lobby

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We have written extensively here about AIPAC.

That's probably the #1 reason that the status-quo of Bend ( HBM&CO ) want to shut this blog down.

Anonymous said...

Tetherow clubhouse had a pipe burst last week. I'm hearing 2.5 million in damage. Is the entire fucking development even worth that anymore?

MrBruce said...

Then we can agree that none of us are racist or anti-semetic and move on to talking about real estate and business and stuff.

###

The nation of Israel is ONLY about stealing land from Palestinians.

For you not to know about why Gaza is wanted? It's because its on the beach, the most valuable property for Israel development.

The funding for the Palestinian Genocide came from the riches acquired by Summit-1031.

Thus the topic is relevant.

It's sad that "anti-semitism' is code for 'Israel Real Estate', but we dont' write the political correct code-book.

I don't give a fuck about jews, I only care what their MOB government does in their name.

I have said a MILLION times NED, that ... "THE CIA ain't christian, and the MOSSAD ain't jewish".

Israel Real Estate don't have a fucking thing to do with anti-semitism, except that ADL/AIPAC don't want you to talk about it.

If you do talk about it, then your anti-semitic, which is lower than a baby-fucker which will get you life in a USA prison being fucked in the ass by a 400LB forest-gump ( black or white who cares ).

tim said...

>>Tetherow clubhouse had a pipe burst last week. I'm hearing 2.5 million in damage. Is the entire fucking development even worth that anymore?

How many rounds of golf is $2.5 million?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

How many rounds of golf is $2.5 million?

Probably 3-4 now. Gotta pay for that mess somehow.

Anonymous said...

Tetherow clubhouse had a pipe burst last week. I'm hearing 2.5 million in damage. Is the entire fucking development even worth that anymore?

*

Imagine that last week all commerical at NWXC blew their pipes, and this week ditto for Tethy? Think they used the same plumber?

I'll tell you what I think, but HBM&NED will call it anti-semitic.

I think in both cases they used 2by4 walls, and minimal insulation, and best of all they had the heat turned off cuz the places are EMPTY of life.

As you all fucking know in BEND in the winter, 55 MIN on temp, 2by6 walls, and R40 in the ceiling and R30 in the 2by6 walls, and then TOSS in CPCV plastic water pipes and you get a fucking BEND nightmare from hell.

So go to it hbm/ned call me anti-semitic for accusing people in Bend of being tight-asses, ... besides is it better to pay heating bill, or collect $2.5M in insurance ?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The asshole is just venting his irrational anger and hate.

Funny that you think you or I is some sort of uber-arbiter of what's "rational".

tim said...

No big deal. Taxpayers will pay AIG to pay Tetherow.

There were burst pipes all over town, from up in Sunrise Village to down in NWXing. A ServPro wetdream. Bunch of people out of town, avoiding the winter.

MrBruce said...

How many rounds of golf is $2.5 million?

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It started off at $400/game, then $250, then $150, of course with mandatory caddy & tip, it never got less than $200.

Of course the 'house' only ever saw the $150, all else being pocket under the table ( I love GOLF & BEND ). SO that be 16,666 rounds of golf to cover.

Given they were hosting 4-6 games a day during the four month season. It would take 694 years to pay off the damage, using the gross golf revenue.

In Bend we don't call those numbers 'astronomic' we call those 'inventory', which is a pseudonym for a very big number in Bend.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Two years ago the very existence of this blog was "IRRATIONAL". Believe me, I heard it a LOT.

Bewert said...

Hey fake bruce, as long as you are on you Israel rant, you should note that Westside Church is sponsoring a trip there this spring:

xperience Israel 2009

April 27 - May 7, 2009
11-days revisiting the sites of Jesus and the Old Testament
led by Pastor Ken & Linda Johnson


"One special day: Cross the lunar landscape of the Judean wilderness to the Dead Sea."

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Don't worry, you'll get to use the settler road to cross the West Bank to the Dead See...you'll even get to drive right by all the settlements developed east of Jerusalam on the hillside, where they literally cut the West Bank in half.

Anonymous said...

Then we can agree that none of us are racist or anti-semetic and move on to talking about real estate and business and stuff.


*

I know I'm not racist or anti-semitic.

But look at HBM, a day doesn't go by and he aint' ranting about dumb fucking hicks, ... stupid white-folk with pick-ups and gun racks, and 'studs' HBM hates fucking studs. Which is code for old-timers. Newbie HBM hates fucking Bend old-timers.

HBM is a PUSSY. Pure & simple.

But guess what he doesn't say "Jew" and thus he's GOLD.

If you took all of HBM's rant's and replaced Hick with Jew. You would have enough 'anti-semitism' to write mein-kampf.

That is the biggest problem me&homer have with this bullshit, is that these KUNTS can rant about one group and its OK, but if someone rants about another group,... then HOLY fuck.

Let's also remember that RICH FUCKING JEW LAWYERS had a LOT more to do with FUCKING UP BEND, than any fucking HICK.

Just a simple fact, but then the entire PURPOSE of the BEND/SORE is keep our eyes away from SAURON and on the hick and our dick.

MrBruce said...

Hey fake bruce, as long as you are on you Israel rant, you should note that Westside Church is sponsoring a trip there this spring:

xperience Israel 2009


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Hell yes, all paid for by SUMMIT-1031, you seen their fucking website? Its 100% politics about those poor fucking Israelis surrounded with rotting Palestinian corpses.

If you just change Israeli to Nazi it would be a HOLOCAUST, but we can't do that, now can we??

MrBruce said...

Talking about the DEVIL, HBM must be watching TV and wanking his dick right now.

***

The Wall Street Journal

Jan. 3, 2009

Israel's military said ground forces are crossing the Gaza border in an escalation of Israel's week-old offensive against the territory's Hamas rulers, according to the Associated Press. Israeli TV channels are broadcasting images of troops marching
into Gaza after nightfall Saturday, the AP said.

tim said...

People who would never dream of sounding bigoted against blacks seem to have no problem being bigoted against "rednecks" or "white trash" or "trailer trash" or "southerners."

They justify is because they say those groups are bigoted. But blacks are bigoted, too, so the justification is a lousy excuse.

Anonymous said...

I never thought I would find common ground with 'Simple Pussy', but he's definitely right about the lobby ( AIPAC ).

Hell yes, BP Westside-Church is a major source of funding for Zionism, they get these dumb fucking christians all worked up, and then they sell them 1031's, and pass the money to Israel to BUY TANKS to invade Gaza.

Who could have guessed?

Who would have known?

MrBruce said...

They justify is because they say those groups are bigoted. But blacks are bigoted, too, so the justification is a lousy excuse.

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I know it drives me crazy. Two weeks ago on HBM's SORE-EYE blog, he said that bloggers were calling people pedophiles, and should be sued and imprisoned for slander & libel.

Then a few days later he's calling Rush Limbaugh a pedophile.

You have to wonder what standard HBM holds to?

I have no doubt he meant what he said on the SORE-EYE, as only he can write that shit, and its his blog.

I have no doubt over here it was the real HBM, ...

Yes, 24/7 he bashes trailer-trash, hicks, pick-ups, ... anything that was in BEND before he moved here.

MrBruce said...

I have said this before, and I'll say it again, as a person I like HB MILLER, and I like Bob Woodward.

But HBM stands for the BULL&SORE in this town, and I hold him to a higher level.

For instance, HBM you cowardly KUNT, did you yet demand in your SORE-EYE that Summit-1031 money be returned from the RNC to the 1031-BK fund for widows??

Anonymous said...

Since I finally got you KUNTS today to talk about CACB.

Let's NOT also forget that this year Patricia Moss gave $1,000 to the Knife-River (MDU) 'Good Government Fun' a real fucking lobby, what the fuck is this??

Anonymous said...

Two years ago the very existence of this blog was "IRRATIONAL". Believe me, I heard it a LOT.

*

Stupid people don't survive here.

We're a very socially darwinian site.

Irrational? I don't think so.

Practical ( beans, butter, bread, bullets, bullion ) - YES

Realistic ( BEND IS A FRUAD ) - YES

Irrational? No.

Anonymous said...

Let's also not forget that Patricia Moss gets $200k year from the Knife-River (MDU) pension fund in the form of stock.

Just click on 'CACB', then principals then MOSS SEC filings, and see all the stock she gets from MDU ( knife-river ).

Anonymous said...

There were burst pipes all over town, from up in Sunrise Village to down in NWXing. A ServPro wetdream. Bunch of people out of town, avoiding the winter.

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I repeat if you have 2by6 walls, well insulated, if you leave the heat on at least 55F, then no problem, ...

The problem is post 2002 all new shit cut corners, builders love 2by4, and love R12 in walls, and love plastic cpcv pipe, which ALWAYS fucking breaks when it freezes under pressure.

So we have all of fucking BEND empty, WTF turn off the heat save money.

Will the insurance outfits put up with this bullshit? Sounds like the banks now own a whole bunch of MOLD, cuz that's what you get in the spring with heat.

Another fucking reason to RAZE all of the new Bend.

PUSSY, when you buy a little home inner BEND, look for what I'm writing above 2by6 walls with tons of insulation, in floor, ceiling, and walls.

MrBruce said...

Funny that you think you or I is some sort of uber-arbiter of what's "rational".

###

They're telling you that 'censoring' this blog would be rational.

MrBruce said...

Don't fucking tell us that you know how to publish, but not fucking delete comments on your own fucking blog.

Who does delete? Little anti-semites on the night shift?

Switzer is TOO FUCKING busy with his two dozens EVENT-PROMOTION rackets to fuck with the SORE BLOG, its your fucking monster,

*

I can see the vast SORE building with 1,000's of little anti-semites running around the SORE from keyboard to keyboard every night deleting comments. Its a myth almost like Santa Claus.

MrBruce said...

The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern people originating in southwestern Asia, including Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, ...

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Semite don't have a fucking thing to do with JEWS.

Palestinians are SEMITES, and therefore the biggest anti-semites on EARTH on Israelis.

MrBruce said...

HBM you cowardly KUNT, did you yet demand in your SORE-EYE that Summit-1031 money be returned from the RNC to the 1031-BK fund for widows??

###

How about someone here printing this as a letter-to-the-editor @ the SORE, and maybe switzer will print it??

I don't think so.

HBM can't offend summit-1031 or RNC.

Anonymous said...

Heads up. It's a Nicholas TALEB SMACK-DOWN. Courtesy of Chevelle:


I recently attended an investor conference where, as is typical these days, people gathered to reaffirm how clueless we are about the future of our economy. Just to bang the point home, the keynote speaker was Nassim Taleb, author of “The Black Swan”; a “treatise” on how our failure to take into account eventualities that are possible only remotely, yet are highly consequential, can really hurt us....

Taleb seemed to draw tremendous pleasure from being invited to wine, dine and, for a nice sum, give a speech to those very “imbeciles” who got it wrong because “they didn’t want to hear” (him)....

The suggestion that the present financial crisis is a validation of Taleb’s vilifying statements about economists, statisticians, finance professionals and their entire canon. Oh yes, and the French!

Well it’s not. First, because the current crisis is not a black swan. Alas, the world’s economic history has offered a slew of (very consequential) credit and banking crises (see here for a free sample from the IMF).

So not only aren’t credit crises highly remote; they can be a no-brainer, particularly if they involve extending huge loans to people with no income, no jobs and no assets.... [T]here were a few other blatant failures that contributed to the current crisis... the avid search for yield as global liquidity ballooned....

“Beware of the Black swan!”, he warns. But what does this mean in practice?

For example, I work at one of the top floors of a high-rise building in Manhattan—with a (less than remote) probability that my floor might get hit by a flying suicide bomber dressed as Superman. Pretty consequential, if you care. But what should I do? Change jobs? Move to Peoria? Maybe Taleb can get me a parachute, a golden one please....

Alternatively, I can keep on living as I do, aware that I’m running the risk of becoming a case number in Homeland Security’s terrorist statistics. Taleb’s recommendations on asset allocation are as impractical—barring generalities (like diversification or more equity than debt) that are indisputable for being self-evident. But what about the specifics?...

Ultimately, no matter how imperfect our models are, the problem lies in our failure to use our brain.

Only “using our brain” does not mean buying Treasuries. It means identifying investments that are productive and viable, improve our quality of life and create jobs...

MrBruce said...

Palestinians are SEMITES, and therefore the biggest anti-semites on EARTH ARE Israelis.

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Who are the original ISRAELIS??

Mostly Brooklyn Mobsters who saw an opportunity to steal a ton of valuable real estate in 1948 in Lebanon and Palestine.

MrBruce said...

In a few years TALEB will be seen what he is & was, just an author that was printing 'popular business books' of the day.

Like "popular science", whenever I see that word 'popular' I think Oprah-TV, or watered-down, dumbed-down, or crap.

Yes, the ECON collapse of today was NOT a black-swan, we all fucking saw it coming.

Anonymous said...

So we're at the dead-horse phase of the day??

Trolls Dunc&HBM got us to spend the AM hammering Israel.

Homer has verified that CACB is in Bend.

Full circle now were questioning the validity of TALEB being an idol.

I have to get out of bed, and take a shower, and get ready for the next party tonight which is only 4 hours away, and I just got up at 8am, and have been typing with you KUNTS for 4 fucking hours.

Perhaps later we can discuss something intelligent??

Where has Lava been? Is he the new 'sp'??

Anybody else here missing?

'SP' knows too much about our thinking to be a newbie, I think its a regular with a new 'handle'.

Any thoughts for this afternoons discussion bring it on.

We'll NEVER fucking solve the ISRAEL problem, so lets not even try.

Bewert said...

Some notes from the last CACB 10-Q:

Total investment securities increased $22.9 million to $254.9 million at September 30, 2008, compared to $232.0 million at December 31, 2007. The investment portfolio is concentrated in securities issued by Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs, e.g. FNMA or FHLMC) as well as mortgage-backed pass-through securities and collateralized mortgage obligations backed by pools of single family residential mortgages (known collectively as MBS). All investment purchases during the nine months ended September 30, 2008, were rated AAA or AA in terms of credit quality by Moody’s and/or Standard & Poors. All MBS and GSE debt securities in the portfolio as of September 30, 2008, were also rated AAA.
...

Net loans increased by $102.5 million to $1.20 billion as of September 30, 2008, compared to $1.09 billion at December 31, 2007. Loans more closely associated with a commercial bank, e.g. business, real estate construction, and commercial real estate loans, grew $25.9 million to $996.6 million as of September 30, 2008, compared to $970.7 million as of December 31, 2007.

Multifamily loans increased $63.1 million to $74.5 million. The majority of this increase is due to completed construction loans totaling $38.3 million that were transferred to the multifamily category during the period. Home equity and consumer loans increased $2.0 million to $29.7 million and residential loans increased by $13.9 million to $112.3 million.

[Table showing 43%+ of loans are in commercial real estate and real estate construction]

tim said...

I gotta think that as bad as the housing is, it's the commercial that's going to hurt these banks the most.

Bewert said...

ANALYSIS / Israel must prepare to turn its military might from Gaza to Iran
By Amir Oren
Tags: Israel News, Gaza, Syria

Brig. Gen. Sami Turjeman is commander of the 36th Division in the Golan Heights, and is one of the most outstanding officers of his rank in the Israel Defense Forces. He is expected to be promoted this year to the rank of major general. Turjeman was head of the operations division at the General Staff during the tempestuous years of 2006 and 2007 - when the IDF embarked simultaneously on operations in both Lebanon and in the Gaza Strip, in the wake of the abduction of Gilad Shalit, and then attacked the North Korean nuclear reactor in Syria.

A few weeks ago, shortly before he set out for a visit to brigade commander Avi Peled and the Golani and Armored Corps fighters, as they undertook maneuvers not far from his headquarters in the Golan Heights, Turjeman pointed to a corner in his office. He had heard from Avigdor Kahalani, one of his predecessors in the 36th Brigade, that a secret opening to a tunnel that led to a bunker, to which the commander can escape in the event that Syrian tanks surround the command center, was concealed there.

The lines of Syrian armored columns between Damascus and the border have not been at the top of the IDF's list of concerns in recent years, nor has that country's air force. Indeed, in Turjeman's opinion, the Arabs have - in practice although not in theory - very effective air forces. He's thinking not of their airplanes, but rather of the fact that everything that hits Israel from the sky is considered "air force," and involves missile and rocket systems of different types and ranges, which are in the possession of various countries and organizations. Kiryat Shmona, Be'er Sheva, the Israel Air Force bases at Tel Nof, Hatzerim and Hatzor, and other bases and essential installations - all are within the scope of this danger.

It is no wonder the U.S. Army, which has 100 soldiers manning the large radar installation in the Negev meant to detect Iranian missiles, has hastened to assure its troops that they are not at risk.

Facing an "air force of the poor," this week Israel mainly deployed its own splendid IAF. It's an acclaimed force, and rightly so, because in Israel, there is the IDF, and then there is the air force, and they are two organizations of different levels.

The ground forces need many junior officers for a short period, whereas the air force needs junior officers for long periods. The need for the mass production of the first sort - i.e., of platoon commanders - as compared to the qualitative selectiveness used with respect to the second sort - air crews (and naval officers) - is reflected in the difference between the levels of the two organizations. This difference has been exacerbated over the years, because in the IAF the selection process continues with those who hope to climb to command and high command levels. In the ground forces, on the other hand, there is a more arbitrary or random placement for soldiers aged 18 or 19, for example, in the artillery and not in the Paratroops.

Discussions about the "land maneuvers" that are the ground forces' part of the operation in Gaza, are promissory notes still waiting to be cashed.

There cannot be an expanded operation without IAF support, both fire power and reconnaissance, especially while the ground forces have been waiting for conditions that will enable them to enter the Strip.

The IDF of the Second Lebanon War, under the command of Dan Halutz, was not all that bad, and the IDF of today, under the command of Gabi Ashkenazi, is not all that good. It is the same army that was brought out of Lebanon in 2000 by Ehud Barak, when he was prime minister, and by Ashkenazi, when he was GOC Northern Command. Parts of it are disciplined and professional, and parts are in real need of improvement.

As has always been the case with Ashkenazi, the IDF is a pistol that has had a silencer affixed to it. Only the General Staff talks, and it does so in a single voice. The IAF and the Southern Command, which have been doing most of the work, have been forbidden to speak to the media.

During the first days of the current campaign, until the disagreements in the managing quintet of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Barak, Ashkenazi and Shin Bet security service chief Yuval Diskin began to bubble over, the politicians and generals in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv were enjoying a popular sense that the operation was not only justified, but also successful. In reality, this was not more true than in the parallel days of July 2006, before the hesitations and the marching in place set in, but the positive atmosphere of this week can be attributed to a combination of changes.

The general impression is that this time the launching of the (Hamas) rockets preceded the (Israeli) aerial action, rather than followed it - even though the Hezbollah attack in the north, when Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser were abducted, which is what sparked Israel's offensive, also included a bombardment.

The reserves that have been called up are not intended to participate in the fighting - or to lead the protest once it is over - but rather to reinforce the troops of the standing army who are sent in to fight.

The tone of the media is positive, because the whole element of personal enmity among career army and reserve officers - and the broadcasters close to them - toward Halutz and the commander of the 91st Division, Gal Hirsch, vanished with their retirement. The bad feelings toward Halutz and Hirsch - and of Halutz toward Hirsch - have dissipated along with the entry of the new management, which replaced the commanders in 2006. The IDF, having learned the lessons of the veteran generals in the ground forces who voiced their frustrations publicly, has grown wiser and has recruited them into its service. The TV studios are the same TV studios, and the generals are the same generals, but now they are spokesmen for the establishment, not its critics.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates wrote last month that in Lebanon, Hezbollah won "a propaganda victory" over Israel. Now it appears that it also inflicted a domestic victory within Israel concerning the image of the army. This impression is truly deceptive, just like the originality that is attributed to the name of the operation, "Cast Lead" - a recycled name that is eight and a half years old, which served to describe the events that took place on Nakba Day (the Palestinians' commemoration of what they call the "catastrophe" of the creation of Israel in 1948) in May 2000.

Gaza is a far simpler sector than Lebanon - narrow, short, bounded, flat and exposed - and even though there too explosive charges, anti-tank ambushes and suicide terrorists are waiting, in Golani they are describing it as more of a company-level war game than a brigade maneuver. What they are aspiring to achieve in Gaza is just what was accomplished in Lebanon: a situation where even if Hamas/Hezbollah is left at the end of the fighting with rockets, it won't dare fire them. If no Qassam is launched from Gaza for two and a half years, then they will see this as a major achievement, in the hope that the public that became embittered by the results of the Lebanon war will respond with satisfaction this time.

The austerity of the planners of the current operation suggests that they are aspiring to a certain, realistic degree of success, at the price of a diplomatic defeat: acceptance of Hamas rule in Gaza, both in terms of relinquishing the idea of getting rid of it, and in negotiating with it on an agreement that will lead to the end of the operation, before the price in IDF casualties and to civilian locales inside Israel, on the eve of an election, starts to become too heavy.

Such an outcome, even if it is considered better than the situation that preceded the operation, and is preferable to becoming bogged down in a prolonged stay in the Gaza Strip, will nevertheless be a badge of shame for Israel, until another explanation is needed to explain Israel's ability to make do with the outcome: Iran. Barak and Ashkenazi tried until the past few weeks to avoid the operation in Gaza, for which GOC Southern Command Yoav Gallant had been pushing (with the support of the IAF) for a very long time in order to thwart the strengthening of Hamas before it reaches its peak.

On the 14th story in the IDF headquarters in the Kirya in Tel Aviv, where the defense minister and the chief of staff have their bureaus, there is concern about an even more serious problem than rockets in Ashdod and Be'er Sheva. Barak, especially, has been concerned that the IDF will be drawn into Gaza, even if not in all its brigades and divisions, but certainly with the attention of the commanders and with a burden on the air force.

Therefore, the IDF must move quickly to disengage [from Gaza], in order to free its attention for the paramount task of preparing a military blow to Iran, if diplomacy and deterrence fail. As long as the great threat of Iranian power is hovering, the smaller threats of Hezbollah and Hamas that derive from it will not be dispelled. Cast lead, heavy as it may be, is still easier to digest than enriched uranium.

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Abd the drumbeat for another "preventive" war grows...

Bewert said...

Timmy, I liked the line about all the securities being AAA or AA. Makes you feel all warm and secure inside.

tim said...

These bonds are AAA, and your collie is a poodle.

LavaBear said...

>>>Where has Lava been?

I've been traveling acoustic the past week or two. Kind of nice. No cell, no internet, very little of anything. Worth a try if you can do it.

Quimby said...

>> OK. I've not driven through Alaska. I should try that.

Tim, you might want to wait until Summer, its -50F and dark in Fairbanks right now.

Bewert said...

http://akweathercams.faa.gov/allcams.php

Anonymous said...

ANALYSIS / Israel must prepare to turn its military might from Gaza to Iran
By Amir Oren

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OR-BUSH-EO wants one thing, to provoke the IRANIANS to do something stupid, and thus the entire arab world watches the Palestinians be exterminated.

Nothing new long ago, the British exterminated the Tasmanians, and school children don't even learn these things.

The US/ISRAEL aka AIPAC wants one thing, for IRAN to get pissed and make a stupid move to justify a US invasion into IRAN.

Anonymous said...

The OR-BUSH-EO says we should ignore Israel and focus on the economy.

Hell yes, and I might add Oprah also, this weeks book list is very good, anything but ... Israel

Obama Says US Must Act Swiftly to Address Economy

Bloomberg - 42 minutes ago
By Hans Nichols Jan. 3 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama said that Democrats and Republicans need to act with urgency to address the “great and growing” economic crisis, warning of double-digit unemployment if swift action isn’t taken

LavaBear said...

I've just skimmed the racist/non racist comments the past few days. It has made me laugh out loud.

I grew up in Bend, Or. Went to undergrad in Oregon. Upon graduation I moved to the deep south. Growing up here you feel you aren't racist in the slightest. The deep south motherfuckers are the scary racist creeps. The first year after I moved I walked around as a stupid white kid from backwoods Oregon. What I learned is the most racist fucker on the planet is the white kid from the white neighborhood that has never ever had to deal with anything. I can't tell you how many black people I'd meet and they'd hate me just because I was white...."but I'm not racist" I'd claim. "You a white fuckin cracker idiot" they'd reply. An honest learning experience because I am a white fucking cracker idiot. At least I now know it.

I don't have time to youtube it but Chocolate News on Comedy Central did a skit asking what race has the worst stereo type. They concluded that it's not the "lazy ass black man" anymore because they now have a black man as president. What they came up with is it has to be the chinese man stereo type of small penises. Tough stereo type that is.

Anonymous said...

I used to not even care about the ZION issue in BEND. I mean its never been an issue.

In PDX the zionists had been in there since the 1890's, its considered a garden-of-eden by old Zionist records.

But BEND?? nada

Now today we got Resnick of Suterra now owing the city, the richest Zionist in CALIF, and the major contributor to Scharznegger and the DEM-PARTY a twofer kind of guy. Hell when I say he's the richest Zionist, I might add he's also the richest man in CALIF.

Then you got all these Zionists getting caught with their pants town in BEND-1031.

Fucking Bend is starting to become like everywhere else.

I guess this is the progress that HBM envisioned when him and his front team arrived here 18 years ago. All the principals of BEND 1031 showed up in 1991. Right about the time that we starting ramping up for the endless 16 yr RE boom.

Bend is what it is, and we should able to discuss what it is.

LavaBear said...

You fuckers shooting sage rats with 22's and scopes. That's just unfair. I think there should be a law that nothing more than a pump pellet gun is allowed. That way you have to get close enough and take in account weather conditions before you can get a kill. And it doesn't count as a confirmed kill if they make it back in the hole and you can't get the tail. In the spring the baby tails are worth double.

Yes, I grew up in central oregon.

MrBruce said...

I've just skimmed the racist/non racist comments the past few days. It has made me laugh out loud.

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If we make anybody laugh then we win.

You can never make HBM laugh, but he's a loser.

I suspect that everyone that works at the SORE or BULL has a small dick. It would explain everything.

Anonymous said...

You (hbm) & swizter wouldn't be defending the genocide in Palestine if you were 'jews' by blood. Fact.

Number One, I have never "defended the genocide in Palestine." I deplore it. I believe the treatment of Palestinians by Israel has been a crime almost as atrocious as the treatment of Native Americans by European settlers.

Number Two, what is a "Jew by blood"? What makes you think I am a "Jew by blood"? Is it my big hooked nose? My thick lips? My low, sloping forehead? There are no Jews in my family tree.

Number Three, you are a fucking imbecile.

Anonymous said...

Liberals are serious fuckers. No smiling allowed.

Anonymous said...

You can never make HBM laugh, but he's a loser.

You can make me laugh, but you have to be funnier than you have been so far.

Just saying "fuck" every other word won't do it. I'm not a 9-year-old.

MrBruce said...

VERBOTEN SUBJECTS IN BEND - ACHTUNG

Dunc & HBM have demanded today we must not talk about Jews, which they say is anti-semitic.

So let's see.

1.) Suterra verboten, owned by richest Jew in the USA ( richest man in calif )

2.) Summit-1031 verboten owned by a who is who of Bend CPA/Lawyer jews.

3.) Made-off Verboten - Jew.

Perhaps like duncs out of business list, ya'll can list the other BEND subject that are TABOO, because ONLY an anti-semite ( jew basher ) will discuss the verboten issues.

Anonymous said...

MOSS GET's $240K !!!!!!!!!!!

FROM the federal government ...

Bank of the Cascades Aids Bend Habitat for Humanity in Securing $240,000 to Support Affordable Housing Development


BEND, Ore., Dec. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Bank of the Cascades and Bend Habitat for Humanity were recently awarded $240,000 in Affordable Housing Program (AHP) funding from the Federal Home Loan Bank of Seattle (Seattle Bank). The award will support the development of quality affordable housing in Bend. The bank's application on behalf of Bend Habitat for Humanity was one of just 13 approved by Seattle Bank in their 2008 round of AHP funding. More than 51 applications were submitted for consideration.

Anonymous said...

I've been traveling acoustic the past week or two. Kind of nice. No cell, no internet, very little of anything.

Gosh, how did the human species survive for the 50,000 or so years before it had those things?

Anonymous said...

Bank of the Cascades Aids Bend Habitat for Humanity in Securing $240,000 to Support Affordable Housing Development


BEND, Ore., Dec. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Bank of the Cascades and Bend Habitat for Humanity were recently awarded $240,000 in Affordable Housing Program (AHP) funding from the Federal Home Loan Bank of Seattle (Seattle Bank). The award will support the development of quality affordable housing in Bend. The bank's application on behalf of Bend Habitat for Humanity was one of just 13 approved by Seattle Bank in their 2008 round of AHP funding. More than 51 applications were submitted for consideration.

"We're committed to supporting initiatives that provide affordable housing for people who need it right here in our own community," said Patricia L. Moss, president and chief executive officer, Bank of the Cascades. "This award from the Seattle Bank speaks well of their trust in Bank of the Cascades, as well as the track record of Bend Habitat for Humanity."

Bend Habitat for Humanity will use the award to construct 10 three-bedroom, single-family homes. Five of the units will be sold to households earning 60 percent or less of area median income and that are qualified by Habitat for Humanity. The other five homes will be built by Habitat for Humanity volunteers and will be sold to Housing Works, a Bend-area nonprofit organization. Housing Works will sell three of the five units to households earning between 60 and 80 percent of area median income. The remaining two homes, which will not receive AHP subsidy, will be sold at market rate and the proceeds will be used as a founding source for the affordable homes.

To date, Bank of the Cascades has secured more than $840,000 in AHP awards for nonprofits in Oregon and Idaho. "We're keenly aware of the need to provide housing for low income working families here in Central Oregon. It is critical to employers and local businesses that their employees have a stable, affordable place to live in the city where they work," continued Moss. "We're pleased to be part of the solution."

Every year, the Seattle Bank contributes 10 percent of its profits to support affordable housing development. AHP funds are awarded on a competitive basis. To receive an AHP award, an organization must demonstrate its ability to effectively create affordable housing and promote community stability. AHP applications are sponsored by a community financial institution that is a member of Seattle Bank. Projects supporting homeownership, people with special needs, Native Peoples, farmworkers, mixed-use housing and preservation of Section 8, LIHTC and USA 515 buildings receive priority status in the scoring process.

Anonymous said...

MOSS PATRICIA L: Declared Holdings
Company/Relationship Reported Shares Ownership
Cascade Bancorp
Officer
NasdaqCM:CACB
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Insider & restricted shareholder transactions reported over the last two years
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10-Dec-08 2,360 MDU Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $20.97 per share.
(Value of $49,489)
8-Aug-08 7,500 CACB Option Exercise at $5.74 per share.
(Cost of $43,050)
28-Apr-08 4,050 MDU Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $28.52 per share.
(Value of $115,506)
3-Mar-08 11,500 CACB Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $10.13 per share.
(Value of $116,495)
24-Jan-08 3,120 CACB Disposition (Non Open Market) at $12.98 per share.
(Value of $40,497)
31-Dec-07 1,878 MDU Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $27.94 per share.
(Value of $52,471)
26-Oct-07 6,626 CACB Option Exercise at $6.04 per share.
(Cost of $40,021)
27-Apr-07 4,050 MDU Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $31.07 per share.
(Value of $125,833)
1-Feb-07 16,568 CACB Option Exercise at $6.04 - $6.04 per share.
(Cost of about $100,000)
1-Feb-07 7,111 CACB Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $27.32 - $27.32 per share.
(Value of about $194,000)

Quimby said...

hbm, if you have NEVER laughed at anything Buster (or BustaBruce) has written, YOU ARE TAKING YOURSELF WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

Anonymous said...

Number Three, you are a fucking imbecile.

Number Four, pay no attention to the Yarlmuke on my penis, I only wear it in the winter to keep my weenie warm.

Anonymous said...

Bend Habitat for Humanity will use the award to construct 10 three-bedroom, single-family homes. Five of the units will be sold to households earning 60 percent or less of area median income and that are qualified by Habitat for Humanity. The other five homes will be built by Habitat for Humanity volunteers and will be sold to Housing Works, a Bend-area nonprofit organization. Housing Works will sell three of the five units to households earning between 60 and 80 percent of area median income. The remaining two homes, which will not receive AHP subsidy, will be sold at market rate and the proceeds will be used as a founding source for the affordable homes.

Fail.

We already know Housing Works is a fucking sham. See my post last week about Putnam Pointe, with 599 sq foot condos costing $1200-$1300 a month. That's their version of affordable. You make 80% of median, and you need to pay 150% of the going rate for a place to live.

The houses built to sell for profit will lose money. They will sell for less than they think they can get for the subsidized ones.

Anonymous said...

Cascade Bancorp (Consolidated Issue listed on NASDAQ Capital Market)
sector: Financials . industry: Banks · View CACB on other exchanges
As of 2 Jan 2009
7.07USD
Price Change
+0.32
Percent Change
+4.74%
Analyst Recommendations


Moss, Patricia
Brief Biography

Ms. Moss has been director of Cascade Bancorp since 1993. Ms. Moss currently serves as CEO of the Bank of the Cascades (the “Bank”) and President & CEO of Cascade Bancorp. From 1998 to 2003, Ms. Moss served as President & CEO of the Bank and the Company. She is also a director of MDU Resources Group, Inc., Oregon Business Council, and Clear Choice Health Plans, Inc. In addition, Ms. Moss serves on the advisory board of Oregon Investment Fund.
Basic Compensation
Total Annual Compensation, USD Long-Term Incentive Plans, USD All Other, USD Fiscal Year Total, USD
380,000 -- 526,461 1,098,730
Options Compensation
Quantity Value
Excercisable 129,559 Market Value 2,086,320.00
Unexercisable 28,086 Market Value 269,264.00
Excercised 23,194 Market Value 421,403.00

Quimby said...

Affordable Housing

OK, this now looks to be a serious waste of taxpayer $$$ (What's new?).

Affordable housing is appearing as the bubble deflates dumbasses, you don't need special programs, 1000s of federal/state/county staffers, and billions of taxpayer dollars to get "affordable housing". Let the market do its job, on both fucking sides. God, it makes me want to scream!!!

Don't support artificially high housing prices and you'll have built in affordable housing. What a racket.

Anonymous said...

So let me understand this HBM is not Jewish in any way correct?

Then its OK to bash him, and humiliate him

It means to demonize HBM is NOT anti-semitic?? Right?

Great cuz I hate anti-semites, so long as HBM is not a Jew anything goes.

Anonymous said...

OK idiots and imbeciles stop this now.

It turns out that Moss is Jewish, and therefore even talking about CACB violates this boards anti-semitic rules, which say that no mention of a Jew or Jewish business is allowed.

Anonymous said...

hbm, if you have NEVER laughed at anything Buster (or BustaBruce) has written, YOU ARE TAKING YOURSELF WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.


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He laughed at the bilbo Hobbit's tale of Bend.

I think now that we have confirmed that we're NOT anti-semites for Bashing HBM we can all go back to common ground.

We can all go back to calling each other kunts, ... Just don't call a BEND Jew a Kunt, cuz that would be anti-semitic.

and don't talk about Jews involved in Bend fraud, cuz that would be anti-semitic.

On second thought HOMER, we have nothing to talk about left.

Quimby said...

Lava, yes the babies, they're so stupid!!! I actually enjoy the .22 LR as the .220 Swift is so accurate, it becomes unsporting, unless you're really into pink mist and helicopter action (evil snicker>)....

For anyone who doesn't know what a .220 Swift is, it's basically a .30-06 cartridge necked down to .22 caliber.

Did I mention that the rats are cannibals??? (guilt assuagement technique)

MrBruce said...

. I believe the treatment of Palestinians by Israel has been a crime almost as atrocious as the treatment of Native Americans by European settlers.

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No accident that when the Miller family 'settled' in Palestine ( Now Israel ), they called themselves "Settlers".

Guilt? eh?

Anonymous said...

BOARD MEMBERS AFFILIATED WITH Patricia L. Moss *
Patricia L. Moss
Chief Executive Officer, President, Director and Chief Executive Officer of Bank of the Cascades


Age Total Annual Compensation
55 $380,000 USD


Gary L. Hoffman
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades
Gary L. Capps
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades

Jerol E. Andres
Jeld-Wen Development Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades
James E. Petersen
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades

Judi Johansen
Damhead Creek Ltd.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Ryan R. Patrick
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades

Henry H. Hewitt
Stoel Rives LLP
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades
Clarence Jones
Bank of the Cascades
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Bank of the Cascades

David Fabius Bolger
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Thomas M. Wells
Cascade Bancorp Inc.
Board Affiliations
Cascade Bancorp Inc.

Harry Jonathan Pearce
Nortel Networks Corp.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.
A. Bart Bart Holaday
Alerus Financial Corp.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

John Olson
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Richard H. Lewis
TPH Partners, LLC
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

Tom Everist
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Thomas Welder
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

Terry D. Hildestad
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Dennis W. Johnson
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

Karen B. Fagg
HKM Engineering, Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.
Thomas C. Knudson
Bristow Group, Inc.
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

T. J. Tomjack
Capital Pacific Bancorp
Board Affiliations
North Pacific Group, Inc.
John Wilson
SunGard Asia Pacific
Board Affiliations
MDU Resources Group Inc.

Kirby A. Dyess
Austin Capital Management, Ltd.
Board Affiliations
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.
Jay Ross
North Pacific Group, Inc.
Board Affiliations
North Pacific Group, Inc.

Scott Gibson
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.
Board Affiliations
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.
David Y. Chen
GeoTrust, Inc.
Board Affiliations
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.

Ralph R. Shaw
Rentrak Corp.
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Michael Payne
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.
Board Affiliations
Oregon Investment Fund, LLC, L.P.

Nancy Wilgenbusch
Cascade Corp.
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Edmund P. Jensen
Trintech Group plc
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

David B. Frohnmayer
University of Oregon
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Vernon R. Alden
ML-Lee Acquisition Fund (Retirement Accounts) II LP
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

Lacy Bunnell Herrmann
Aquila Management Corp.
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
James A. Gardner
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

Timothy J. Leach
US Bancorp
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Diana P. Herrmann
Aquila Rocky Mountain Equity Fund
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

Raymond H. Lung
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Gary C. Cornia
Tax-Free Fund For Utah
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

John W. Mitchell
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon
Board Affiliations
Tax-Free Trust of Oregon

Anonymous said...

It's always interesting what they leave out, rather than what they put in.

In the case of MOSS none of her public records that she provides ever mentions that she is a director of Western Communications ( owner of the BULL ), most likely because its a private-company, and doesn't have to publicly announce the fact.

LavaBear said...

Wanna take bets on 2009?

I just have a feeling 2008 was the beginning and 09 is going to keep going straight up.

Anonymous said...

It's not just in Bend anymore. Even in Mumbai its hard to find a C++ job.

How can Bend compete, if foreign people start hanging themselves?

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Unable to find a job, IIT-K student hangs self

Kautilya Singh
Posted: Jan 04, 2009 a

Failing to get job, IIT student commits suicide...

Kanpur Unable to find a job due to the ongoing economic meltdown, an MTech final-year student of Indian Institute of Technology-Kanpur (IIT-K), Gangapatnam Suman, hanged himself from the ceiling fan in his hostel room on Saturday morning.

According to close friends of Suman, he had been feeling low for the past few weeks since he had not received any call letter after being interviewed by several companies.

On Saturday morning, Suman’s friends and hostel mates left for their classes, but he opted to stay back in his room, no. A-117 of Hall VIII. The students returned to the hostel around 11 am and found the door of Suman’s room locked from inside.

IIT-K registrar Sanjeev S Kashalkar said, “From the window of the room, the students saw Suman’s body suspended from the ceiling fan. He had used a bedsheet to hang himself. The students then broke into the room and rushed Suman to the health centre on the campus, but the doctors declared him dead on arrival.”

Born on June 14, 1985, Suman hails from Kovidala Palem village in Nellore district of Andhra Pradesh. He had passed his B.Tech exams in first class (Electronics and Communication Engineering) from Jawahar Lal Nehru Technological University, Hyderabad in 2007.

According to the IIT-K staffers, Suman was a good student and had never required any counselling during his stay at the institute. As per Cumulative Performance Index (CPI), the internal grading system of IIT-K, Suman had secured 6.75 out of 10.

Deputy Director IIT-K, R K Thareja said, “Campus placements are still on and Suman had a few more months to find a job.” He did not fail to mention that IIT-K students have got a positive response from companies that have come for campus placement. “Though, at present, we do not have the names of the companies, which have interviewed him since December 1, 2008, he had around five more months to look for job,” added Thareja.

Anonymous said...

2009 predictions? You can't handle 2009; Kunstler says NO MORE CRY BABIES ...




Introduction

There are two realities "out there" now competing for verification among those who think about national affairs and make things happen. The dominant one (let's call it the Status Quo) is that our problems of finance and economy will self-correct and allow the project of a "consumer" economy to resume in "growth" mode. This view includes the idea that technology will rescue us from our fossil fuel predicament -- through "innovation," through the discovery of new techno rescue remedy fuels, and via "drill, baby, drill" policy. This view assumes an orderly transition through the current "rough patch" into a vibrant re-energized era of "green" Happy Motoring and resumed Blue Light Special shopping.
The minority reality (let's call it The Long Emergency) says that it is necessary to make radically new arrangements for daily life and rather soon. It says that a campaign to sustain the unsustainable will amount to a tragic squandering of our dwindling resources. It says that the "consumer" era of economics is over, that suburbia will lose its value, that the automobile will be a diminishing presence in daily life, that the major systems we've come to rely on will founder, and that the transition between where we are now and where we are going is apt to be tumultuous.
My own view is obviously the one called The Long Emergency.
Since the change it proposes is so severe, it naturally generates exactly the kind of cognitive dissonance that paradoxically reinforces the Status Quo view, especially the deep wishes associated with saving all the familiar, comfortable trappings of life as we have known it. The dialectic between the two realities can't be sorted out between the stupid and the bright, or even the altruistic and the selfish. The various tech industries are full of MIT-certified, high-achiever Status Quo techno-triumphalists who are convinced that electric cars or diesel-flavored algae excreta will save suburbia, the three thousand mile Caesar salad, and the theme park vacation. The environmental movement, especially at the elite levels found in places like Aspen, is full of Harvard graduates who believe that all the drive-in espresso stations in America can be run on a combination of solar and wind power. I quarrel with these people incessantly. It seems especially tragic to me that some of the brightest people I meet are bent on mounting the tragic campaign to sustain the unsustainable in one way or another. But I have long maintained that life is essentially tragic in the sense that history won't care if we succeed or fail at carrying on the project of civilization.
While the public supposedly voted for "change" this fall, I maintain that they underestimate the changes really at hand. I voted for "change" myself in pulling the lever for Barack Obama. I regard him as a figure of intelligence and sensibility, but I'm far from convinced that he really sees the kind of change we are in for, and I fret about the measures he'll promote to rescue the Status Quo when he moves into the White House a few weeks from now.

Where We Are Now

Without reviewing all the vertiginous particulars of the year now ending, suffice it to say that the US economy fell on its ass and that the "global economy" did a face-plant as well. The American banking sector imploded spectacularly to the degree that investment banking actually went extinct -- as if a meteor landed on the corner of Madison Avenue and 51st Street. The response by our government was to shovel "loans" onto the loading dock of every organization that pretended to be something like a bank, while "bailing out" an ever-longer line of corporate claimants with a pitiable song-and-dance. The oil markets went on a roller coaster ride. The housing bubble collapse grew to avalanche velocity (taking out whole colonies of realtors, mortgage brokers, and construction contractors in its path), the commercial real estate sector developed hemorrhagic fever, retail drove off a cliff on Christmas Eve, the stock market fell in the toilet, jobs and incomes went up in a vapor, and tens of millions of ordinary citizens addicted to revolving credit found themselves in a life-and-death struggle for the means of existence. None of this is over yet.

The Year Ahead

Much of what has been lost in 2008 will not be recovered: enterprises, personal fortunes, chattels, reputations.
I expect a period of euphoria to mark the early weeks, perhaps months, of the Obama team. It will be a relief to have a president who speaks English correctly and has experienced something like real life prior to politics. Restoring credibility and legitimacy in leadership will be a big deal. If nothing else, we may recover a collective sense of consequence from a president who tells the truth, even the harsh truth. The age when it was enough to claim that "mistakes were made" might be over. A sign of this sort of change may be the commencement of prosecutions for misdeeds in banking and securities that are now destroying the entire system of deployable capital. A good place to start will be an investigation of Henry Paulson for insider trading stemming from Goldman Sachs's shorting of its own issued mortgage-backed securities when Mr. Paulson was the company's CEO. Beyond his case, there should be enough work at Attorney General Eric Holder's office to employ a line of law school graduates stretching from Brattle Street to the planet Mars. It will be salutary for the nation to see those who engineered the banking collapse come to greater grief than the mere surrender of their Gulfstream jets and Hamptons villas. By the way, being allergic to conspiracy theories, I don't believe for a minute that there is some kind of shadow elite of "Bilderburgers" standing in the background to protect these grifters -- and I also believe the reason these paranoid notions persist is because it is otherwise hard to account for the extravagant irresponsibility of the Bush circle and its servelings.
Apart from "cleaning up Dodge," so to speak, and from issues of collective character-and conscience-in-office, I worry that the avalanche of troubles already ongoing will overwhelm Mr. Obama and his people. It's also well worth worrying whether they will pursue policies similar in kind to the ones pursued by Bush, namely throwing money at everything and anything, and it sure looks like they are planning to do just that. I am especially concerned about an "infrastructure stimulus" project aimed at highway improvement at the expense of public transit. This would be the epitome of a campaign to sustain the unsustainable. We need to begin planning right away for a transition away from automobiles, not in order to be good socialists but because Happy Motoring is at the core of our unsustainability trap. The car system is going to fail in manifold ways whether we like it or not, and it will fail due to circumstances already underway. For one thing, it will cease to be democratic as the remnants of the middle class find it impossible to get car loans, or pay for fuel, or insurance, and that will set in motion a very impressive politics-of-grievance setting apart those who are still able to enjoy motoring and those who have been foreclosed from it. Contrary to what you might make of the the current situation in the oil markets, we are in for a heap of trouble with both the price and supply of petroleum (more on this below). And there is no chance in hell that any techno rescue remedy to keep all the cars running by other means will materialize.
A consensus in the blogoshpere says that the stock markets will rebound strongly during the first Obama months. This is possible just on the basis of pure "animal spirits," but the Obama Bounce will occur against a background of continued dismal business and financial news. It will appear to defy that news. By May of 2009, the stock markets will resume crashing with the ultimate destination of a Dow 4000 before the end of the year. Meanwhile, jobs will vanish by the millions and companies will go bankrupt by the thousands, especially in the so-called service sector, and in all the suppliers of such, along with the landlords in all the malls and strip malls. The desolation will mount quickly and will be obvious in the empty storefronts and trash-filled parking lagoons. In the event, two things will become increasingly clear to the nation: that the consumer economy is dead, and that there is no more available credit of the kind that Americans are in the habit of enjoying.
We'll turn around early in 2009 and discover that we are a much poorer nation than we thought because from now on credit will be extremely hard to get for anyone for anything. The businesses that survive will have to keep going on the basis of accounts receivable. This is the area where the crash of giants will be heard. I've been saying since publication of The long Emergency that comprehensive downscaling in all our activities, from farming to business to schooling to governance, will be the categorical imperative of the years ahead. Giant enterprises requiring giant loans to get from quarter to quarter will tend to not make it. Borrowing from the future will become a practical impossibility as past bad debts from previous borrowings continue to unwind, cease performing, and get written off. This argument implies that the federal government will tend to flounder just as General Motors, Citicorp, Target Stores and other gigantic enterprises will tend to flounder. It would be sad to see a President Obama so hamstrung and helpless, and it is largely why I see his role as largely symbolic -- as a reassuring presence encouraging the distressed public to bravely bear their hardships, and to be kind and helpful among their neighbors.
Households, like businesses, will have to pay as they go from earned income. The house as ATM is over. Credit cards are maxed out and credit ceilings are lowering like the ceiling in "The Pit and the Pendulum," preparing to slice-and-dice the old "normal" of family life in America. Bankruptcy will be the new Nascar. A lot of families will lose everything. They will sift and disperse into the housing owned by other family members -- parents, siblings -- and a strange new not-altogether comfortable kind of togetherness will become common. Over time, a lot of people will go looking for casual work "under-the-table"( and probably low-paying). To some degree, these workers will begin to look and act like a new servant class, and before too long they may be absorbed into the households of people who employ them. There will be plenty of room for them there.
Counties, municipalities, and states will join in the bankruptcy fiesta. It would be reasonable to expect collapsing services as a result. This would be a situation fraught with danger -- of rising crime, of public health emergencies as water systems are not kept up and sewage treatment becomes unaffordable. I don't imagine the federal government stepping into every Podunk or Metropolis from sea to shining sea and propping up these services. People will have to cope with danger and deprivation.
2009 may be the point where we begin to understand what kinds of places will be more hospitable to human society further ahead. I maintain that our giant urban metroplexes have way overshot their sustainable scale and will contract severely. With all the economic hardship, we ought to expect a lot of demographic churning, people leaving hopeless places and moving on to something more promising. I believe we will see them move to smaller towns and smaller cities. The reorganization of the rural landscape into smaller-scaled farms has not begun to occur -- though 2009 might be very hard on agribusiness, given the shortage of capital and if oil begins to march up in price by late winter. Eventually, the rural landscape will require the labor of many more people than is currently the case. Whatever else happens, 2009 will surely see a massive return to home gardening as budgets become strained to the extreme. As the New Urbanist Andres Duany said recently, "Gardening is the new Golf!"


The Oil Scene

Many were stunned this year to witness the parabolic rise and fall of oil prices up to nearly $150 and then back around $36 by Christmas time. Quite a ride. I said in The Long Emergency that volatility would be the hallmark of post peak oil because it was obvious that advanced economies could not absorb super high prices and would crash in response; that at some point after crashing, these economies would respond to the new lower oil price, resume their cheap oil habits, and build to another price rise. . . and crash again. . . in a declension of ever-lower industrial activity.
What I probably didn't realize at the time was how destructive this cycling between low-high-and-low oil prices would actually be in the first instance of it, and what a toll it would take right off the bat. We can see now that our first journey through the cycle took out the most fragile of the complex systems we depend on: capital finance. As a result, a huge amount of capital (say $14 trillion) has evaporated out of the system, never to be seen again (and never to be deployed for productive purposes). It will be harder for the USA to rebound from the grievous injury to this crucial part of the overall system, and Europe has foundered similarly -- though the European nations are not burdened to the same degree by the awful liabilities of suburbia.
Even if these advanced economies -- throw in Japan too -- remain moribund, the price and supply prospects for oil look ominous. My own guess is that the price of oil has overshot on the low end just as it overshot on the high end, and that, when all is said and done, we'll still see an upwardly trending price line over the long haul. The plunge, which began right after the $147 peak in July 2008, was as much the result of banks, hedge funds, and individuals dumping oil investments and positions to raise cash as it was a matter of the markets predicting a sharp fall-off in economic activity (and supposedly oil consumption). The truth is that demand destruction for oil in the USA has been surprising mild compared to the drop in price. Jim Hansen's Master Resource Report says that gasoline consumption dropped from 9.29 million barrels a day in 2007 to 8.99 million barrels a day for 2008. That's not much of a fall-off, especially compared to the price drop.
As Julian Darley of the Post Carbon Institute put it recently: "There won't be any energy bail-out." And, as many other people have noted, the recent plunge in oil prices strongly implies future supply destruction, since so many planned oil projects have been suspended or cancelled because they are economic losers at $40-a-barrel (or even $70). Even projects well underway, such as Canadian tar sand production, have been scaled back or shut down because they don't make sense at current prices. Some of these other newer projects will now never get underway -- they have missed their window of opportunity with so much capital leaving the system -- and so the hope of offsetting very-near-future depletions in old giant oil fields looks dimmer and dimmer.
Those depletions are very serious. For instance, Mexico's super-giant Cantarell oil field, the second-largest ever discovered after Saudi Arabia's Ghawar field, has shown a 30 percent depletion rate in the past year alone. (Pemex had forecast a 15 percent rate entering the year.) Cantarell provides over 60 percent of Mexico's total production, and Mexico is America's third largest source of imports -- just after Saudi Arabia (#2) and Canada (#1). Obviously, Mexico soon will lose its ability to export oil, and as that occurs, America is going to feel more than pinch -- more like a two-by-four upside the head. In short, remorseless depletion is underway and we are less likely now than even a year ago, to make up for it.
At some point, then, demand, even if slightly lower, will catch up with declining supply. My prediction for 2009 is that we will see two things occur, possibly at the same time: a resumption of rising prices, and spot shortages. I say this because the global economic fiasco is sure to produce geopolitical friction, and inasmuch as America has to import almost three-quarters of the oil we use, the prospect for trouble is great.
The tragic part of all this, of course, is that the temporary plunge in oil prices has prompted an incurious American public to assume, once again, that the global oil predicament is some kind of a fraud. Given the flood tide of fraud they have been subject to in banking and investment matters, I suppose you can't blame them from thinking that everything is some kind of a scam. Given feeble car sales this season, there are reports that an increasing percentage of those sold now are are trucks and SUVs.
Though I give Boone Pickens high marks for stepping up to the leadership plate, I'm not altogether on board with his energy proposal for swapping natural gas for gasoline in motor fuels while we swap out wind power for natural gas in electric power generation. I don't believe that the ballyhooed shale-gas-plays of the last few years will prove-out long-term, as some huckster's claim. They are expensive to drill and run, and they all tend to deplete very quickly -- around one year. I'm not convinced we have the capital or the resources even to come up with the steel necessary to drill for it. Anyway, the last thing we need is a way to prolong our car-dependency.
In the meantime, there are still those who hope (as described above) that various alt.energy systems will insure the continuation of Happy Motoring. This is an idle hope, and 2009 will be very sobering for those who imagine that hybrid cars, or electric cars, or "air" cars, or natural gas cars, or any other kind of car technology will save the day. Even if President Obama mounts an "infrastructure stimulus" program, it will not keep up with all the necessary routine road repair that our highway system requires. The extreme financial hardship faced by localities and states insures that they will have to postpone a lot of expensive highway maintenance -- even if the federal government fixes a big bunch of bridges and tunnels -- and so we face the interesting prospect that our roadway systems will enter their own deadly zone of systemic failure even before the whole car issue is settled.
I am waiting to see whether Mr. Obama will undertake a restoration of passenger railroad service. I've said enough about this in the past, but it's worth reiterating that a failure to get comprehensive passenger rail service going will be a sign of how fundamentally unserious we are as a nation.

The Specter of Inflation

This is the "other shoe" that a lot of people are waiting to drop. Right now we are caught up in a compressive debt deflation as mortgages stop "performing" and loans of all kinds are welshed on. Since money is loaned into existence, and a great many loans are not being repaid, then a lot of money is going out of existence. That's what I mean when I say that capital is leaving the system. At the same time, the Federal Reserve has made good on its promise to drop money from helicopters if necessary to prevent an implosion of the banking system (as all that older money goes out of existence), and so it's now a question as to when the amount of new money will exceed the disappeared old money. (Of course when I say money, I mean "money," because we are dealing here in a shadow realm of assumed value.) In any case, there is bound to be a lag period between the time that the Fed's money is dropped from the choppers and the time it actually filters through the banks and other recipients to the so-called "real economy" of people who buy and sell real things. The credible estimates I hear run between six and 18 months.
I'll only venture to guess that we could see the start of serious inflation sometime in 2009. To some extent, all currencies are now free-falling together, some at slightly faster rates than others, but the situation of the US dollar is so grotesquely dire, and our structural imbalances so monumental, that it is hard to imagine that our currency will not win the international race to the bottom. Gold resumed its movement upward against the dollar a week before Christmas, and that may be an early sign. The government -- and anyone badly in debt -- benefits much more from inflation than deflation, so every effort will be made to avert the latter. The trouble lies in the government's dumb incapacity to control dangerous things that it sets in motion, so that an inflationary campaign to avoid compressive deflation can so easily lead to a fiasco of super or hyper inflation -- the kind that kills governments and turns societies into murderous monsters. I'll forecast the that the US dollar is worth 40 percent of its current value by next Christmas.

Geopolitics

Well, now, who the hell knows what's in store. Aside from a few bombs here and there, and pirates skulking around the horn of Africa, the world scene was miraculously free of major incidents in 2008 -- perhaps the worst being a toss up between the September Mumbai bombings and the fiasco in Georgia, where the US prompted Georgia President Mikheil Saakashvili to send troops into the South Ossetia region and the move was answered by overwhelming force from neighboring Russia, leaving the US looking feckless and retarded for our troubles. But otherwise, there wasn't a whole lot of action out there.
Until the last few days of the year, that is. I'm sure the ever-growing cohort of American anti-semites who send me emails will be tickled when I assert that the Hamas rocket attacks against Israel of recent days guaranteed a sharp response from Israel -- and now, of course, Hamas is playing the crybaby card: "... what'd we do to deserve this...?" Well, you fucking fired a bunch rockets into Israel. Did you ever hear of cause-and-effect? This matter requires no further elucidation, except that it seems to suggest a ramping back up of hostilities. I wonder if it is the beginning of a new coordinated offensive by Islamic extremism aimed at taking advantage of the West's current economic plight (and the West's probable aversion to anything that will complicate its desired recovery). We'll know in a month or so, I think, since any coordinated campaign (if such a thing were possible) might well be aimed at confounding the new American president.
The other hot corner of the world right now is the India-Pakistan border where the 60-year-old rivalry, which has already produced three wars, looks to be gearing up for yet another round. I'm not the first one to say that Pakistan is an extremely dangerous regional player, being an economic basket case, possessing a score or so of nuclear bombs, harboring more Islamic fundamentalist maniacs than any other place in the world, and having a government held together with duct tape and twine. The caper in Mumbai last September could well have been construed as an act of war, but somehow India kept its head. Who knows where this is going. . . .
So far I have only described what is already obviously going on. Add to this the likelihood that Iran is closer to achieving membership in the atomic weapon club. They've been spinning their centrifuges all year and nobody has done anything about it. My guess is that neither the US nor Israel will attempt to take out their facilities in the year ahead. If Iran used a nuclear device against Israel, or anybody else, they would be asking to become, in turn, the world's largest ashtray. End of story. A different story, though, is how Iran might behave if and when the US Military presence in Iraq is reduced. I can imagine Iran doing anything possible surreptitiously to gain control over Iraq's southern oil regions around Basra, but even the Iraqi Shia don't like the Iranian Shia that much. Anyway, iran's economy has suffered hugely from the fall in oil prices. That nation may be in for more internal trouble than they have seen in thirty years since the Shah was tossed out by the minions of Ayatollah Khomeini.
There's been a lot of sentiment the past year that as the US and the Europe fall into economic disarray, China would emerge as the great new hegemonic superpower. While it's come a long way in a quarter-century, China's internal problems are still enormous and worsening. They're in trouble with water, food imports, mass unemployment, and energy. They have locked in some oil contracts around the world, but they are still susceptible to vagaries in the oil markets and Black Swan events. As the US consumer economy falls into a coma, and the shipping containers from China to WalMart get sparser, the Chinese government will face the wrath of millions of unemployed workers. I believe they will struggle through 2009, perhaps growing more surly as the US dollar inflates and their holdings of treasury bills begins to look more like a swindle.
Russia may be suffering economically for the moment due to the crash of oil prices, but they are energy resource-rich -- at least for the next couple of decades -- and if they don't like the current price, they can keep more of their oil in the ground until the price looks more attractive. I think Mr. Putin has the confidence of the Russian people and will survive the current malaise.
Japan remains a riddle wrapped in toasted nori. They're beggaring their own factory workers to stay solvent. Their banking sector has been zombified for a generation. They import 95 percent of the energy they use. Do they have a plan? One can imagine them sliding in resignation back to something like the sixteenth century, giving up the whole industrial circus as more trouble than it's worth, just as they once gave up on firearms.
The over-arching geopolitical theme of 2009 will be the end of robust globalism as we've known it for some time. Reduced trade, competition for energy resources, sore feelings over debts and currencies will drive the nations inward or, at least, direct their energies toward their own regions. Note to Tom Friedman: the world turned out to be round after all.


Conclusion

The big theme for 2009 economically will be contraction. The end of the cheap energy era will announce itself as the end of conventional "growth" and the shrinking back of activity, wealth, and populations. Contraction will come as a great shock to a world of conventionally programmed economists. They will toil and sweat to account for it, and they will probably be wrong. Unfortunately, this contraction will do its work in unpleasant ways, driving down standards of living, shearing away hopes and expectations for a particular life of comfort, and introducing disorder to so many of the systems we have depended on for so long. People will starve, lose their homes, lose incomes and status, and lose the security of living in peaceful societies. It will become clear that the Long Emergency is underway.
My hope for the year, at least for my own society, is that we will transition away from being a nation of complacent, distracted, over-fed clowns, to become a purposeful and responsible people willing to put their shoulders to the wheel to get some things done. My motto for the new year: "no more crybabies!"

Bewert said...

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5000 fps. That's sick. I'm surprised the bullet doesn't fly apart from the rotational force.

Anyone know the physics of the force at impact of this kind of velocity?

Anonymous said...

Until the last few days of the year, that is. I'm sure the ever-growing cohort of American anti-semites who send me emails will be tickled when I assert that the Hamas rocket attacks against Israel of recent days guaranteed a sharp response from Israel -- and now, of course, Hamas is playing the crybaby card: "... what'd we do to deserve this...?" Well, you fucking fired a bunch rockets into Israel. Did you ever hear of cause-and-effect?

I'm really disappointed in this rhetoric, especially coming from such an awesome writer.
Hamas' actions are inexcusable and it calls for a serious response, like you said "cause and effect"....however I don't see how air strikes from fighter jets into civilian targets would qualify as an equaled measured response. This is like a grown man using a baseball bat to defend himself against a 5 year old child armed with a toothpick. And to say that Hamas is playing the crybaby card is lame. The crying is coming from innocent victims that already suffer from the illegal occupation of their land. How many Israelis have been killed or injured from the rocket attacks? Now how many Palestinians have been killed or injured from Israel's response. Why don't you ever mention how much money and equipment and arms are given to Israel by the US? Why doesn't anyone ever discuss the odd fact that every president, congressman and senator from either side of the isle blindly states their loyal and undying support of Israel? Why is Iran the unstable nation that must not posses nuclear capabilities when the only nation to use such weapons just happens to be Israel's biggest arms supplier? And please don't try to label me an anti-semite, that defense is hollowed and begins to lose it's meaning when just thrown around to deflect critics.

Anonymous said...

You did a pretty good job of forecasting 2008 as I recall, so I don't think you'll be too far off the mark in 2009.

But I do have one prediction for you Jim. 2009 will be the year that you learn the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Yes, cause and effect... indeed!

Anonymous said...

I think Kunstler has a great many important things to say, but every time he comments on events in the Middle East he disappoints. This time he had to try to preempt critics with the antisemitic label. Try as the Israelis might, they cannot make those pesky Palestinians just "go away", so I guess bombing them back to the stone-age will have to do for now.

Anonymous said...

5000 fps. That's sick. I'm surprised the bullet doesn't fly apart from the rotational force.

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Most rifling is in 1 in 9, so maybe one in 400 rev/sec, but hell full metal jacket. It's a .22, ... sounds like .223, but really with a 30-06 wad of smokeless powder behind? Is it a really long barrel? It would need to be to get up 5,000 ft/sec.

MrBruce said...

Deep Inside of Every Bend Liberal is a Jihadi!

Jihad is carried out almost entirely by young men and the Islamic oil nations have a vast supply of young men with no other job opportunities except service in Jihad. Their despair at the prospects of their societies must be great, and easily converted into aggressive rage. Plus, they are given huge inducements to believe that this employment is a holy mission, and fabulous promises of deferred pay in the form of early retirement to paradise and the consort of lusty virgins. As Peak Oil becomes more of a reality in the Middle East, I think these societies will only act crazier.

Where are Russia and China on this? Well, Russia benefits whenever the glare of Islam is diverted from Russia's vast, fractious southern border with dozens of Islamic states and quasi-states, like Chechnya, poised to make trouble. Since Russia is one of the world's top oil producers (though past peak itself), and is sitting on quite a bit of natural gas, too, it doesn't have to worry about a cut-off of energy supplies from elsewhere. Russia would also like to recapture the geopolitical influence it enjoyed back in the Soviet days, and anything that weakens American authority and power in the Eastern Hemisphere leaves a vacuum that Russia can reoccupy. China benefits from Islamic antipathy to the West because the less oil is available to the West, the more there will be for oil-poor China. The problem for them, of course, is that an energy-strapped, impoverished America would no longer be buying all those Chinese-made salad shooters at the WalMart.

An interesting sidelight to all this is the emergence here in the US of a virulent strain of antisemitism. A lot of it has shown up in the "Comments" section of my mirror site (Kunstler's blog on Typepad). It seems to me, that it's mostly emanating from what remains of the US political left, who have either run out of homegrown downtrodden groups to champion, or been disappointed with the results of their previous efforts. Lately, the frustrating impotence of the left to formulate a coherent opposition to Bush-style conservative Republicanism has led them into a craziness not unlike the craziness of Jihadist Islam. If all the Bush Republicans were suddenly vacuumed out of North America by a righteous cosmic force, the American left would probably start an American Jihad of their own against a host of imagined "class enemies" in the remaining population.

I hasten to add that I am myself an opponent of American culture and polity in many of their current manifestations -- everything from Nascar to US Department of Agriculture subsidies, and plenty in between -- and yet I do not regard any victory of Islamic Jihad, whether in Iraq or Jordon or the subway tunnels of London or the skyscrapers of Manhattan, to be necessarily a good thing for the world.

Nobody knows where the conflict in the Middle East is headed now. My own guess is that in the weeks to come Iran will find new ways to enlarge and aggravate the situation there. A problem at the heart of things not much discussed in the public arena is the fact that a virtually limitless supply of potent small arms and rockets is available from Iran to anyone who wants the stuff. This has implications for any effort to disarm Hezbollah or Hamas or al Qaeda or sixteen guys in a suburb of Dusseldorf. It remains to be seen whether Iran will try to produce more potent weapons. The West would be foolish to let that happen, but this dirty job, too, may be left to Israel and the US. I suspect that Iran will foment an oil crisis before that happens by shutting down the Straits of Hormuz by some means. When that happens, Mr. Ahmadinejad can put his head between his knees and kiss his ass goodbye.

Anonymous said...

In the case of MOSS none of her public records that she provides ever mentions that she is a director of Western Communications ( owner of the BULL )

DIFFERENT MOSS, DUMBSHIT.

Anonymous said...

Gee, I wonder why the US doesn't hold the geopolitical moral high ground any more.

Could it have something to do with shocking-and-aweing innocent brown civilians into hamburger?

Bewert said...

hb--right on.

Our blind support of Israel is going to be the biggest issue in foreign relations going forward. DKos had a diary on the rec list a couple of days ago, by an IDF soldier, that overwhelmingly showed support for a need to talk more about this issue in the attached poll.

We are virtually the last country that supports everything Israel does, while making money of selling them the weapons to do it with. Unfortunately, I see many signs of China starting to step in and take our place in the not so near future.

Anonymous said...

Yep no Moss in any Orygun Records.

http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_br_web_assoc_name_srch.do_name_srch?p_first_name=PATRICIA&p_last_name=MOSS&p_middle_name=&p_name_suffix=&p_srch=ALL&p_act=ACTINA&p_print=FALSE

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Anonymous said...

"Anti Semitism" ???

Hey! Arabs are semites too.

I suppose technically this makes the majority of Israelis anti-semitic.

But it's a crazy world. Anyone keeping a score card and making note of the facts is automatically labelled "anti-semitic". Being neutral or being pro-arab is being anti-semitic - go figure.

The fact that far fewer Israelis are dying than Lebanese or that the "kidnappings" as carried out by Hizbollah and Hamas are labelled "capture" when referring to the Israelis seems to escape notice in the mass media.

Note that Israel was doing a lot of captures and assassinations - sorry "targeted killings" of their own.

It's an abuse of language and an insult to our intelligence.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about Islam going nuts,but certainly Israel is having some sort of nervous breakdown.
Always given to violent responses to any threat,Israel has now isolated itself from much of the world.,by its terrible acts ...
Significantly,the UN representative , was scathing of Israel as was Rice's asst-Foreign Minister,of the violence and over-reaction in Israels response.
Everyone of these Israel attacks drives masses of hapless civilians/arabs from their homes into camps where the hatreds will fester.
I think,Israel and the Jews are also victims of their past.
Every opponent is Adolf Hitler.!!Every threat is of another Holocaust!
This has also combined with an arrogance,which allows no criticism,and a desire to dominate..look at the US Congress.,which is Zionist occupied-territory!
An endless obsession with the Holocaust(which no sensible person denies!) has left the Jews with nothing else to say to the world,and colored every attitude.
Everything is about what the world owes them.The sense of anger is constant....
There is also a very racist quality to much Israeli/Jewish discourse. now ..The Chosen people indeed !
I would hate to be a citizen of an Arab state having to fear the Israeli Jackboot..or a Palestinian ,whose entire nation has become a sort of Concentration Camp ,ruled by Israeli commandants History it seems makes it own jokes ,sometimes a rather bleak humor..and when will Israelis enjoy a peaceful life...I think that can never be !!

Bewert said...

Kurt Warner is a hell of a leader.

MrBruce said...

One thing missing from Kunstler's "Islamic Jihad" analysis in the last couple of blog posts is the role of the West in creating the monster. Over the years, the West has systematically suppressed all attempts at moderate, democratic movements (favored by the Arab western educated upper-middle class) that could pose a threat to the status quo of western-backed strong armed rulers.
The only avenue available then for disenfranchised Arab youth has been these "extremist" Islamic groups that are finally blowing up in the West's face. But to imply that there is something culturally/genetically wrong with "those people" - as Kunstler too often does - is hypocritical to say the least.

Bewert said...

Re: DIFFERENT MOSS, DUMBSHIT.

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Please elucidate.

Tell us who the other Moss is.

MrBruce said...

Unfortunately, I see many signs of China starting to step in and take our place in the not so near future.

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I think I'm not explaining myself, so I'll try again

Today China supplies the Palestinians, and the USA the Israeli's.

Mutually assured destruction of both, and economic boon to the China and the USA.

Once ancient Semitic lands are devoid of life, then God's chosen people ( Mormons ) can occupy those lands.

Bewert said...

RE: One thing missing...

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That is the type of stuff that I would think I've written the next morning. On some levels I love it, and on others it creeps me out.

Hmmmm....

MrBruce said...

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Anonymous said...

"I think that being pro-jewish means you want to crush the heads of life muslim babies under your boots."

Hummm. That wouldn't be an anti-Semitic statement. Nah.

MrBruce said...

Look Ma CACB is a Bank Holding Company!!!

Cascade Bancorp looks into Treasury program
By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: December 29. 2008 4:00AM PST

Bend-based Cascade Bancorp, the parent company of Bank of the Cascades, has begun laying the groundwork to apply for the U.S. Treasury Department’s bank investment program, a move that could net the bank between $25 million and $66 million in new capital, according to company President and CEO Patricia Moss.

Moss said the company has yet to make an official decision but is “strongly considering” participation in the Treasury’s $250 billion Capital Purchase Program, which was created by Congress earlier this month as part of the $700 billion federal bailout bill.

According to the Treasury, the program is intended to encourage banks and financial institutions to build capital in order to increase the flow of financing to businesses and consumers and support the economy. The program is different from the government’s plan to purchase bad bank assets. Moss said only healthy banks can apply to the Treasury for the Capital Purchase Program.

On Friday, the company submitted a preliminary proxy statement to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that would amend the company’s articles of incorporation to authorize, per shareholder approval, 5 million shares of preferred stock.

The proposed amendment also increases the number of authorized shares of common stock from 35 million to 45 million.

The statement notes that the purpose of the amendment “is to enable shares to be issued in connection with capital-raising transactions, future acquisitions, joint ventures, strategic alliances, or for other corporate purposes as approved by the Board (of Directors.) Specifically, the Board of Directors is considering authorizing the issuance of a series of preferred stock and warrants to purchase common stock to the United States Department of Treasury pursuant to the terms of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 and the … Capital Purchase Program.”

Moss said the company, as currently structured, doesn’t have the ability to issue preferred stock, “so if we choose to take part in (the Capital Purchase Program), we have to have the vehicle available to us.”

The Capital Purchase Plan was announced Oct. 14, and banks have until Nov. 14 to apply for it. According to Moss, a shareholder vote could be held after Nov. 14.

How it would work

The $250 billion program was created earlier this month with the passage of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, also known as the federal bailout bill. The program will infuse money into the nation’s banking system by allowing the Treasury to purchase preferred bank shares. The preferred shares would be nonvoting and would pay a cumulative dividend rate of 5 percent per year for the first five years and reset to 9 percent per year after the fifth year, according to the Treasury.

The Treasury also would have the right, through warrants, to purchase common stock in the banks equal to 15 percent of the value of the preferred shares.

Moss said owners of Cascade Bancorp’s common shares wouldn’t necessarily see a drop in their dividend payments through the preferred share dividend requirement because the additional capital would be lent out, thereby providing the bank more interest revenue.

Nine of the nation’s largest banks have already agreed to participate in the program. Each of the nation’s four largest banks — Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo and Bank of America — is set to receive $25 billion this week.

On Monday, a number of large regional U.S. banks announced their participation in the program, including McLean, Va.-based Capitol One Financial Corp. ($3.6 billion), Cleveland-based KeyCorp ($2.5 billion) and Beverly Hills, Calif.-based City National Corp. ($395 million).

Umpqua Holdings Corp., parent company of Roseburg-based Umpqua Bank, announced Tuesday it would sell a stake of itself to the Treasury for $214 million.

According to its press release, Umpqua said the additional capital will support “the growth of our communities through smart, responsible lending and exploring new market opportunities.”

Among other locally-based banks, High Desert Bank in Bend said it won’t participate in the program. Prineville Bancorp, parent of Community First Bank, hasn’t decided whether to participate, said CEO Robin Freeman.

Linda Navarro, the president and CEO of the Oregon Bankers Association, said numerous banks are considering the program, especially community banks, which “are a great vehicle for getting money out to local communities.”

Navarro said banks conceivably could use the money to acquire other banks, which also could help shore up the nation’s banking system.

“Each bank has to apply for (the program) and make its case to the Treasury, so I don’t know how specific it is in the uses, but the primary purpose is to keep credit flowing in the community, and if an acquisition is how this capital is deployed, that’s not necessarily a bad thing,” Navarro said.

Exploring all options

Moss said acquisitions are a permitted activity under certain circumstances but wouldn’t say whether Cascade Bancorp had any such plans.

“I think it’s fair to say we are thinking about all of the components, examining all the advantages and potential limitations of the plan,” Moss said.

Asked about an Associated Press report that the White House is warning the nation’s lending institutions not to hoard any federal money in order to shore up their capital positions, Moss said the objective of the Capital Purchase Program “is to make more credit available in the community and that totally aligns with our objective.”

Separately, the company announced Tuesday a quarterly cash dividend of 1 cent per share, payable Nov. 14 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 4. The amount is the same the company paid in the second quarter of 2008. In the first quarter of 2008, it paid a dividend of 10 cents per share.

Moss said in a written statement that the dividend amount underscores the bank’s commitment “to preserving capital in light of the uncertain duration of the economic downturn.”

Founded in 1977, Cascade Bancorp operates 33 branches in Oregon and Idaho. Company shares closed Tuesday at $8.93, up $1.17, or 15.1 percent, in Nasdaq trading.

Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@bendbulletin.com.

Anonymous said...

In my 60+ years in Orygun I have learned one thing.

A rolling stone gathers no MOSS.

Anonymous said...

Opposition to the murderous Israeli government should not be confused or conflated with anti-semitism. There is not, nor can there ever be, justification for the random killing of women and children. I remind you that the women and children presently being butchered by the Israeli Air Force are semites.

MrBruce said...

That is the type of stuff that I would think I've written the next morning. On some levels I love it, and on others it creeps me out.

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Sometimes it can take days for my idea to become your idea, other times its best for all ideas to be your ideas.

Your the man BP. You love your name, I love privacy. We both love hbm, homer, lava, marge, quim, ned, apu, smithers, and all the other hug-gables.

Anonymous said...

This sites unthinking allegiance to the Israeli cause has blinded you to that nation's war crimes. Holding war criminals accountable for their transgressions is not antisemitism; it is humanism, it is decency.

I hope some day you will recover your moral compass.

MrBruce said...

“Each bank has to apply for (the program) and make its case to the Treasury, so I don’t know how specific it is in the uses, but the primary purpose is to keep credit flowing in the community, and if an acquisition is how this capital is deployed, that’s not necessarily a bad thing,” Navarro said.

[ Here in Bend we call this fast-tracking. Moss got that $50M, and when Denton at Merenda needed some money to keep open Bends finest dining spot she said "Here's this weeks payroll, now leave town".

You got to admit that CACB is the kind of 'community bank' you want during bad times. ]

Moss said acquisitions are a permitted activity under certain circumstances but wouldn’t say whether Cascade Bancorp had any such plans.

[ On the other hand, if I can buy Brooks Resources at an inflated price with FED money or even Knife-River, then I'll do what needs to be done to protect my retirement. ]

Quimby said...

>> Most rifling is in 1 in 9, so maybe one in 400 rev/sec, but hell full metal jacket. It's a .22, ... sounds like .223, but really with a 30-06 wad of smokeless powder behind? Is it a really long barrel? It would need to be to get up 5,000 ft/sec.

Yes, you'd need it to be long in order to have time for the powder to burn off completely...else you get a large FLASH at the muzzle (wasted powder).

I've never seen it personally but have heard of guys going to the range with their Chrony and new hot loads to group.

Shot 1, shot 2, shot 3, no bullet impacts on the 100yd target. Check boresighting....A-OK. Loads are so hot that the bullets are flying apart before they get to the target.

Yowza....watch those pressures boyz.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

hbm said:
Number One, I have never "defended the genocide in Palestine." I deplore it. I believe the treatment of Palestinians by Israel has been a crime almost as atrocious as the treatment of Native Americans by European settlers.

Number Two, what is a "Jew by blood"? What makes you think I am a "Jew by blood"? Is it my big hooked nose? My thick lips? My low, sloping forehead? There are no Jews in my family tree.

Number Three, you are a fucking imbecile.


Holy Shit, that's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks! Awesome.

MrBruce said...

I see many signs of China starting to step in and take our place in the not so near future.

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I think I'm not explaining myself, so I'll try again

Today China supplies the Palestinians, and the USA the Israeli's.

[ The USA supplies ISRAEL with planes & bombs, and China supplies Palestine with defensive weapons. ]

Mutually assured destruction of both, and economic boon to the China and the USA.

[ It's in common US/CHINA interest to destroy all life in the middle east. ]

Once ancient Semitic lands are devoid of life, then God's chosen people ( Mormons ) can occupy those lands.

[ The Book of Mormon specially mentions that MORONI will rise up from the King of Heaven ( Jersulem ), and the Moroni will oversee all gods chosen people in the holy lands. ]

MrBruce said...

Number Two, what is a "Jew by blood"? What makes you think I am a "Jew by blood"? Is it my big hooked nose?

[ yes ]

My thick lips?

[ yes ]

My low, sloping forehead?

[ yes ]

There are no Jews in my family tree.

[ Jeebus did smite thy Miller family. ]

Anonymous said...

Number Three, you are a fucking imbecile.

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Thank you very much, and on the behalf of all Bend's Hick Imbeciles I welcome you to Munchkin Land.

The real fucking question, since you have insulted our homeland, and you have lived amongst us in contempt for 18 years, is why in the fuck are you still here?

It's not like you have profited or made slaves of the 'imbeciles' if anything the old-timers continue to rape & pillage the city-slickers who have came here.

Quimby said...

>> This sites unthinking allegiance to the Israeli cause has blinded you to that nation's war crimes. Holding war criminals accountable for their transgressions is not antisemitism; it is humanism, it is decency.

>> I hope some day you will recover your moral compass.

You know, the Israelis are the only ones who know how to fight a war anymore. None of this pussy-footing around bullshit like the USA does. Israelis mean business because their very survival depends upon getting shit done. You throw sand in my eyes, I'm going to BREAK YOUR FUCKING LEGS. Welcome to the world kids. This is how you win wars....aka Japan 1945.

The USA & wars vietnam and later? It's just a sideshow to keep the press busy and folks distracted.

Anonymous said...

Damn. No Bend news? Just Israel?

Look what you did Dunc!

Bewert said...

RE:
Cascade Bancorp looks into Treasury program
By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: December 29. 2008 4:00AM PST

Bend-based Cascade Bancorp, the parent company of Bank of the Cascades, has begun laying the groundwork to apply for the U.S. Treasury Department’s bank investment program, a move that could net the bank between $25 million and $66 million in new capital, according to company President and CEO Patricia Moss

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OK, that is fucking ridiculous. At the point you wrote this Andrew, CACB had already taken $39M+.

Please, please get a fucking clue.

Simply look at the S-3 I linked to above.

I really can't fucking believe how clueless you and your compadres are.

Bewert said...

Re:
You know, the Israelis are the only ones who know how to fight a war anymore.

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Q--see Lebanon last year.

If Israel accepted a border based on the 1967 lines, all would be well. Unfortunately, Israel insists on cutting the West Bank in half with their settlements around Har Homa, east of Jerusalem.

Plus it insists on controlling the water, a key factor, through its settlements and wall surrounding Qalqilya. This city had the orchards of the area, and now has a triple bank of cement walls manned by the IDF. Because of the water.

You can fight all you want. But if you really want to win and take the land from the indigenous population, you simply have to kill all of them.

That doesn't work any more.

I hope.

Anonymous said...

But if you really want to win and take the land from the indigenous population, you simply have to kill all of them.

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DUMB FUCKING BEND KUNTS. Google 'tasmania', its the only known instance where the British ( A synonym of 'asshole' ) killed every living person to a man, woman, and child of an entire continent.

If you think for a moment that the game-plan here is any thing other than complete fucking extermination of every living Palestinian then you are all BEND STUPID.

Why do I repeat myself??

Anonymous said...

The USA & wars vietnam and later? It's just a sideshow to keep the press busy and folks distracted.

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Keep going quim, 50k dead of US kids, just so that the folks were distracted for what??

HELLO Pentagon Papers. Huge Oil Reserves in Vietnam, then as now it was about OIL.

To this day CHEVRON mines oil in vietnam. Ker chink, ker chink, ....

Anonymous said...

What is this shit about gun's here.

So if we're going to play the fucking game.

Hit an egg with every shot all day under any conditions of wind or temp, and blow the egg, I'm not talking a scratch blow the fucking egg @ 200yds plus.

Then when you bored, get a bowling pin, or draw a bowling pin on card board.

A bowling pin, is quite like the soft on a man, the spine, the cranium, and the heart area. If you can hit a bowling pin solid hit at 600 yds all day long, then tell me about it.

So there above you have the MIN fucking std's, until some KUNT here is at the MIN std, shut the fuck up about guns.

When you can hit an egg all day with Federal MATCH AMMO 30-06, win-mag 300, or 308 fed match, then blast a few 50 caliber at 1000 yds, and same with the fucking bowling pin, but now paint a bowling pin on 1" steel armor plate at 1000 yds and hit it ( The bowling pin ) every fucking shot.

Fuck the water melon or ground squirel.

Hit the critical zone of human at 200 yds under running strees, and 600 yds at ease, and 1000+ yds, and then tell me you can fucking shoot a gun.

Anonymous said...

Look what you did Dunc!

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Sieg Heil Ned Flanders our leader.

So fucking Bend.

Ned our Fuhrer.

Anonymous said...

OK, that is fucking ridiculous. At the point you wrote this Andrew, CACB had already taken $39M+.


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Thanks BP, now the question.

What did TEAM-MOSS do with that $39M, I think I know. They bought CACB stock, cuz we all know, if they hadn't been buying their own stock the past year it would be zero now.

Sure we love DENTON, and purpose of the BAILOUT $40M to BEND via FED to CACB was community, did TEAM-MOSS keep Merenda around? Fuck no, they said fuck-you very much.

Anybody want to bet that the $40M was used to re-purchase CACB stock?

This has only been the only buyer of this fucking stock for two years is the house.

Duncan McGeary said...

"Look what you did Dunc!"

Yeah, it's kind of awe inspiring.

I wonder what would happen if I tried arguing the point.....

Anonymous said...

Bend Economy Bulletin Board Admin Raped by toy Poodle

( Bend, Oregon ) The Bulletin, Jan 3, 2009

There were eye witnesses and it happened quite fast but BENDBB a well known and respected blog host of The Bend Bulletin was enjoying his last meal tonight at Merenda when a Rapid Toy poodle decided BENDBB was a bitch in heat.

Witness Jody Denton said "Never seen nothing like this, we don't allow pets in the eatery"

It seems that BENDBB was using the boys room and had brought his pocket poodle to dinner. The real trouble started on the second round as Mr. Rogers ( Mr BENDBB's pet ) is said to have been engaging in sex with owner in stall, when a tourist reported the event.

Management tried to convince the tourist this was a normal every night occurence and that the poodle was not being abused, it being a male poodle owned by BENDBB for quite a few years.

The two were said to have become 'knotted' about 8pm PST and the fire department were called, they used the large water hose to separate man & beast.

hbmiller@bendbulletin.com

Anonymous said...

I wonder what would happen if I tried arguing the point.....

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You mean that we play the straight man and you the foaming at the mouth idiot???

Quimby said...

>> but now paint a bowling pin on 1" steel armor plate at 1000 yds and hit it ( The bowling pin ) every fucking shot.

>> Hit the critical zone of human at 200 yds under running strees, and 600 yds at ease, and 1000+ yds, and then tell me you can fucking shoot a gun.

So what you're saying is that unless we're a 10 year military trained sniper in possession of a $10,000 custom built rifle shooting under ideal conditions (calm) and known distances, then we don't know how to shoot?

Besides, no one shooting at that level uses shitty factory "match" ammo anyway. It's all handloads tuned to each weapon.

Anonymous said...

>So what you're saying is that unless we're a 10 year military trained sniper in possession of a $10,000 custom built rifle shooting under ideal conditions (calm) and known distances, then we don't know how to shoot?

No. He's saying you don't know how to do anything. Name a topic. Guns, Israel, China, 1000 sq foot shacks near Drake park, who's a dem, a pug, a jew, what businesses in town are profitable, who is a swinger, Pi to the 93,234 digits. Mutha fucka knows it. And you don't. Don't you forget it.

Except he makes it all up, so don't feel too bad.

Anonymous said...

Things are looking up...all hail 2009!

Central Oregon looks ahead: Rehabilitating the economy

By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: January 04. 2009 4:00AM PST

The Oxford Hotel, a $12 million, seven-story building that will feature retail on the bottom floor and a luxury hotel to be operated by the Bend-based Baney Hotel Group, is scheduled to open in downtown Bend sometime in 2009. “We’re definitely looking forward to the traffic that is going to create and are excited about it,” says Chuck Arnold, executive director of the Downtown Bend Business Association.


The Oxford Hotel, a $12 million, seven-story building that will feature retail on the bottom floor and a luxury hotel to be operated by the Bend-based Baney Hotel Group, is scheduled to open in downtown Bend sometime in 2009. “We’re definitely looking forward to the traffic that is going to create and are excited about it,” says Chuck Arnold, executive director of the Downtown Bend Business Association.
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Clouds still hang on the horizon, but many Central Oregon business leaders are happy to put the economic squall that was 2008 behind them.

The following are sentiments from leaders in multiple sectors, in their own words, on what they’re looking forward to in the new year.

Noelle Fredland, marketing manager, The Old Mill District: “I’m excited to see what the (Obama) administration will do and how that affects people’s frame of mind. I’m waiting for the first and second quarter (of 2009) to see if there’s a huge change in people’s confidence or not and I think that will be a telltale sign for 2009.

“I am anticipating that in 2009 … people will get back to basics. I think the upside to the recession is people are appreciating their jobs and family and what they do have, more so than in years past, so I think that’s really positive.

“I think we are going to continue to see some painful things happen in ’09 but I also think we are going to start seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.”

Roger Lee, executive director, Economic Development for Central Oregon: “It’s going to be an interesting year. I’d say not gloomy, but not rosy either.

“We’ve still got 24 recruitment projects we’re working on right now, and the possibility of all those coming together is pretty small, but they represent a pretty big impact on the economy — almost 4,000 jobs, or a $2.3 billion investment if they all came together. The percentage to come through will be small, maybe 20 to 30 percent, but there are some big projects in there that are kind of economy-changers.

“And on the expansion side, we’re working with three dozen companies where job creation would be almost 1,350 or a $139 million investment, if they come through.

“Central Oregon still has the three fastest-growing counties in the state. There are still some storms in 2009, but hopefully we’re emerging out of that and 2010 is a recovery year. Some optimists are saying late ’09, but there is still some impact to what’s going on (that) we’ll see locally. There will be some more closures, maybe some more layoffs.

“We do see bright spots for the traded-sector industries that have a presence in the area, (such as) renewable/alternative energy, software, medical devices and speciality manufacturing. Additionally, we’re hopeful the aircraft/aerospace industry … will rebound in the second half of 2009.”

Dennis Pahlisch, founder, Pahlisch Homes: “We sold 88 homes in 2008, which is no small feat for the year, and we have about 20 production homes in inventory right now, so if you compare 88 sales for 2008, you can see we are going to be through our inventory real quick, so it will be time to start building homes real quickly, so that’s very encouraging for our team this year.

“It’s been awhile since we’ve been able to start new homes, but yes, we are anticipating we’ll start building again in ’09, and we have very favorable interest rates, the best they’ve been in years, so we’re anticipating 85 to 100 new Pahlisch homebuyers for this year.

“We’re not going to be sorry to see 2008 go. We’re very, very optimistic we’ve hit bottom and 2009 will be a rising year. Not record-setting, but a rising year — and we’re looking forward to that.”

Alana Audette, president and CEO, Central Oregon Visitors Association: “I think that as we reflect on 2008, we all learned lots of lessons about being grateful and positive and I think as we move forward in ’09, coming from that perspective, we’ve learned some harsh lessons and we’re going to improve on those in 2009.

“2008 for tourism was all over the board. It started strong and in the second quarter, it went downhill from there, so we are seeing some pillars of optimism for ’09. Honestly, because we believe in this region, because we are competitive, in ’09 we believe things will stay challenging, but we will come through this.”

Patricia Moss, president and CEO, Cascade Bancorp, parent company of Bank of the Cascades: “Thinking about 2009, some of the things we’ve talked about internally is hopefully (seeing) the stabilization and recovery of the markets in 2009-2010 and doing what we can in the local community to help each other, like buying local. What we’re trying to do is be … proactive, to do the positive things we can do.

“Right now, our mortgage applications for mortgage loans is way up. We will not be in the market for development loans for the next year, but really in the market for people both buying and refinancing their personal residences. They have to qualify to do that, and as always we have traditional programs, but we have seen applications go up substantially, so we look forward to helping people do that this year.”

Connie Worrell-Druliner, owner, Express Personnel Services (and Central Oregon resident since 1983): “I think there isn’t a person who hasn’t been affected by the economy in some way or another. I think it’s a time where we re-engineer and reposition ourselves with our companies and look at new ways of thinking, because on the other side of that economic trouble we become stronger and leaner and better businesspeople.

“For us, we’re taking on the motto that ‘Everything will be fine in 2009.’ We’re feeling pretty optimistic. We’re seeing more candidates than we’ve seen in years, good people that have lost their positions, and sometimes multiple people in families, so our job is to make them leave here with dignity and respect.

“I’ve seen this happen before in Central Oregon, during a time when there was little else besides timber and tourism, so as I look at where we stand today, we are on the docket. People know who we are, we have brought in groups like (Economic Development for Central Oregon) that have brought new and diverse businesses here, so we aren’t the same place we were and I think those movements will help us in the long run.”

Barbara Myers, president, Central Oregon Association of Realtors: “I think that there is going to be lots of opportunities in 2009. The market really has changed, but change always offers opportunities, and I think if (mortgage) rates stay where they are, with plenty of inventory and if people are looking to buy, it’s still a good time. The unsettling thing is whether they have job security. And who knows what the economy will do, but I haven’t seen prices at this level (in a long time).

“I think we will continue sales at the same pace they have been. I don’t foresee any huge increases. I think it will be pretty steady like in the last four or five months.

“I think in 2009 it’s going to be business back to the way it used to be, the basics, before the big upswing, and that was still a good market. We certainly have some inventory to get through and that will take some time, but I’m optimistic that we’ll continue along and it’ll probably be a tough year, but if you keep your head down and do what you know (how) to do best, I think you will survive.”

Darren Powderly, partner, Compass Commercial Real Estate: “2008? Happy to see it go. I think we all need to get used to what is a global repricing of assets, and those prices are lower. Lots of people thought Bend would avoid anything on the national level and we know now that’s not true, that we follow the same trends. So the repricing of assets has brought everything down and once we get used to it and reset expectations, we move forward, because people have been paralyzed in 2008.

“2009, I think it’s going to be a good year. I think this first half will not feel so good, but I’m still long-term bullish on Bend, no question.

“On the sales side, it’s been dead for the past six to nine months because there was no credit and incredible fear. And I think this year, credit will ease up and the (credit) crisis will work itself out and we’ll be in a more cautious lending environment and the volume of transactions will increase. So I am excited for opportunities for me and my clients to purchase properties, and for buyers who have been patient, I think there will be incredible opportunities.

“I think things will be more positive when we look back a year from today because I think we are at the peak of bad news.”

Jack Holt, owner, Murray & Holt: “You know, if you watch the talking heads on TV and hear 10 of them, you get 10 totally different answers, and to pretend a guy in Bend, Oregon, has got a clue as to what is happening in Bend in this economy is unrealistic, and particularly when there are so many things going on. You just kind of have to go with the flow and try to keep a step ahead.

“My biggest concern is this nebulous thing called liquidity. There has not been any problem of getting people financed. We are not having trouble getting people financed. Financing is not a problem; it’s people with no confidence.”

Chuck Arnold, executive director, Downtown Bend Business Association: “The Oxford Hotel (a new seven-story hotel at Minnesota Avenue and Lava Road) is going to be opening in late spring, so we’re definitely looking forward to the traffic that is going to create and are excited about it.

“I think we are going to definitely see some changes in the retail environment as the economic climate evolves and we start working our way out of the hole, so I think that is really going to get people on their game to be more competitive and keep market share up — so I think it’s going to be really interesting how it plays out in 2009. I’m not one who subscribes to this being the most catastrophic of times. Yeah, it’s challenging, but spending lots of time talking about it doesn’t make it better.

“Restaurants? At the peak, we had close to 40 places to eat in 16 square blocks, so you have to wonder how much we could sustain even in good times. How many more go? I don’t know, I hear tons of speculation all day long, but will we lose more? It’s fairly likely.

“In 2006 and 2007, I would regularly take lots of calls from investors and companies and those calls have definitely tailed off, so I don’t know what kind of new ideas will be put out there, but one thing that happens is that when space is vacant, it’s not vacant for very long. I think that’s different from the timber crash (in the early 1980s). We didn’t have the diversity our economy has now from different sectors, and I think that’s definitely our strength.”

Troy Reinhart, partner, Northwest Quadrant Wealth Management (formerly Bill Moore & Associates): “2009 has the opportunity to be a bull market. The stock market is usually six to nine months ahead of the bottom of the recession, so when they announced (in December) it officially started in (December 2007), I went, ‘Thank God it’s over.’

“There are still some question marks out there — the credit markets need to get healthier — but barring some economic meltdown we can’t see, we ought to see the market turn around and start to go up.

“In 2008, there was nowhere to hide, not in oil, stocks, real estate. It got so crazy that for many days in November, the three- and six-month Treasury bills traded negative, meaning people paid the government to hold their money. If that isn’t panic and capitulation, I don’t know what is.

“There wasn’t very much good in 2008, so there’s lots of things to look for to be good in ’09. Real estate, probably not, but generally a rally (in everything else) because everything was so beaten up in 2008.”

Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@bendbulletin.com.

Anonymous said...

I own a small business here in Bend. 2008 turned out pretty good. Gross sales were down as expected but our net doubled from 2007. Ran pretty lean in 2008 and looking to lean it out even further for 2009...because 2009 is going to suck. One thing for sure, people are happy to have a job right now...and every single one of them are wondering if the axe is going to fall on them.

From what I know, the "D" is the only business downtown that is not taking a beating at the moment. Downtown will survive but it will never be the same.

Doesn't the lead from the bullets contaminate the fields from all the sage rat hunting?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Things are looking up...all hail 2009!

Yeah, I wasn't sure if the Bull had the sackage to run such a piece... should have known.

THIS is what my earlier post was about: 2009 - 2012 Is NOT GOING TO BE BETTER.

This is a piece about getting people to expend their last nickel trying to resuscitate a corpse. Even MossCo admits:

"We will not be in the market for development loans for the next year..."

Although, if you read close, most of these people have at least seen the light, and are admitting 2009 is DEAD.

2012 is The EARLIEST you can hope to see some sort of stabilization, at far FAR lower levels than this place has seen in a decade. Bubble Bend is dead... never coming back.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Noelle Fredland, marketing manager, The Old Mill District: “I’m excited to see what the (Obama) administration will do and how that affects people’s frame of mind.

Yet another LIB waiting for their Savior.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Also notice Never-Say-Die Pollyanna attitude in everyone of these people. These are the EXACT SAME THINGS they were saying about 2007!

"Wow, 2007 was tough, but I think after a slow start to 2008, we'll bust out of the second half, STRONGER THAN EVER!"

Every one of them said that.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

When hot property cools off

Dec 28, 2007

“No one expected it to continue at the pace it was going at,” Kramer said, “But the thing about Central Oregon is, it’s still a great place to be, and everybody I talk to still feels comfortable about making an investment in a home here. Maybe there’s going to be a little bit of a lull in the market, but nobody feels there is going to be a decline in the long term.”

Same shit, different year.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Also from a year ago:

Low-cost houses in Bend's future

A bank foreclosure on a 38-acre chunk of land in northeast Bend has dropped land costs to the point where a group of Bend developers say they’ll be able to sell new houses again this summer for as little as $189,900 apiece, or a little more than half the 2007 median Bend sale price of $349,000.

Whether buyers will buy remains to be seen: At the moment, they’re not snapping up Bend houses very quickly at any price.

But developer Jay Audia said he and his partners are confident that they’ve found a price range that will attract first-time buyers to a market that was skewed by a three-year bubble that pushed local home prices to record heights, at least partly due to soaring land prices.

“I see a lot of people trying to find a bottom,” Audia said Tuesday. “They’re dropping their prices maybe $5,000 here, then $10,000 there. But we’re jumping ahead of the market, and this is going to find the market.”

One thing is certain — Audia and his partners in Edge Development Group, including Jim Yozamp, owner of Bend-based Pacwest Homes, and Clackamas developer Jim Robinson, got their land at a price well below the market’s frenzied peak. And, depending on how things go, Audia said, it may presage a general drop in raw land prices, with a potential lowering of new home prices throughout much of the city.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Remember, remember the fifth of November.

Remember this sort of crap folks. The Bull's job is to make you invest in this corpse... and I don't mean Audia, I mean Bend.

This story ran almost exactly a year ago. Unsupported optimism CAN KILL YOU. Look at the slopes of Everest or a Bend cemetery.

Don't become a VICTIM of this place. This piece by The Bull is BULLSHIT. This place will NEVER RECOVER. At least not in any relevant time period.

You'd do best to FOLLOW DENTON'S LEAD. The man was wiped out, and now he is LEAVING, NEVER TO RETURN. This is our BLACK SWAN: We've never seen anything like what is going to happen.

Don't believe this BULLSHIT that intimates that NOW THAT WE'RE IN 2009, THE HARD TIMES ARE OVER. Fuck. What about the past 60 days makes anyone think the hard times are anything but about to get 10X WORSE.

DO NOT INVEST IN BEND. DO NOT BECOME A DENTON... OR WORSE, A JAY AUDIA. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE, AND LIVE.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Also from 1 Year Ago:

PAUL B. FARRELL
A mind-blowing machine
In America, land of the bubbles, the next pop will be the biggest

By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
Last update: 1:12 p.m. EST Jan. 29, 2008
ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) --

Three cheers! Wall Street's got a new rally song: "I'm dreaming dreams, I'm scheming schemes, I'm building castles high."

Actually it's the 1919 tune that launched the roaring run-up to the '29 crash and the Great Depression. Remember the lyrics: "I'm forever blowing bubbles. Pretty bubbles in the air. They fly so high, nearly reach the sky. Then like my dreams they fade and die."

And it still fits today! Listen to venture capitalist Eric Janszen's scary new paradigm in "The Next Bubble," a Harper's Magazine report: "That the Internet and the housing hyperinflations transpired within a period of 10 years, each creating trillions of fake wealth, is, I believe, only the beginning."

Translation: The next bubble is already expanding. Now listen very closely as Janszen makes the single most dangerous prediction of 2008: "There will and must be many more such booms, for without them the United States can no longer function. The bubble cycle has replaced the business cycle."
After the collapse of the 1990s dot-com bubble we laughed at all the hype they had spewed: "This time it's different." "New paradigm." "New economy that only went up."

Well, stop laughing: The new, new came true, says Janszen. Seriously, the economy and the stock market can no longer function without an ever increasing series of bubbles, one after another, rapidly expanding then bursting, with all the manic trading, risk, uncertainty, hypervolatility and distortions that come with it.

Janszen traces bubbles through history: From the 1720's South Sea Bubble to the housing-subprime bubble. Bubbles are accelerating, becoming more frequent, a frenzy feeding on itself: "Nowadays we barely pause between such bouts of insanity. The dot-com crash of the early 2000s should have been followed by decades of soul-searching; instead, even before the old bubble fully deflated, a new mania began to take place."

What's so scary is not that the subprime bubble was happening so fast on the heels of the dot-com bubble, not that the pundits, the public and the policy makers all appeared to be ignoring it. What's really scary is that our best and brightest leaders in Washington, Wall Street and Corporate America wanted to create a bubble! They even threw jet fuel on this raging fire with cheap money, favorable taxes and minimal oversight.

Of course the Treasury and the Fed will never admit it, but they saw the housing bubble as a healthy economic necessity in their warped ideology! In their myopic minds, the housing bubble was the messiah "saving" America from a big, bad bear/recession.

Publicly they denied the bubble's toxicity, dismissing it as "regional froth." Privately, they conspired to create a massive new bubble driving America deep into debt.

'New economy' morphs into out-of-control robot

This new ideology is extremely dangerous: It assumes the American economy can no longer be managed by politicians or Wall Street quants. The "new economy" has a life of its own, a "Terminator" from a dark future, an "I, Robot" from Asimov's sci-fi world.
Yes, our economy has become a self-sustaining "bubble-blowing machine" inventing new bubbles at warp-speed even before the last is buried, in endless reincarnations of Schumpeter's "creative destruction" cycles.

What's next? More asset-backed bubbles. The dot-com '90s created $7 trillion in market value. The housing boom created $12 trillion in "fake wealth." Janszen predicts the next great bubble will be a $20 trillion "alternative energy" bubble. In fact, Wall Street's already hustling biofuels, solar, wind, nuclear, geothermal and hydroelectric as the new alternative energies destined to replace oil, gas and coal in this next new economy.

Timing? The new "alternative energies" bubble will last about 8 years, from a 2005 launch till a peak around 2013, when it will "creatively destruct," when all possible "fake wealth" is squeezed out, when investors wise up to the scam, when that new bubble pops.
In his finale, Janszen admits that when the "alternative energy" bubble finally self-destructs around 2013, "we will be left to mop up after yet another devastated industry," while Wall Street "will already be engineering its next opportunity."

But be warned: Even before we near the end of the "alternative energy" bubble, the law of unintended consequences could trigger a meltdown, not of the bubble but of the "bubble-making machine" itself! The machine will implode, taking down Wall Street, Washington, Corporate America ... and with it, the "new economy," the "new paradigm" and the "bubble-making machine!"

'Black Swan' self-destructs 'shadow banking' derivatives

The trigger? A "black swan" off the radar and invisible to the quants managing the world's derivatives.
The brilliant supertrader and risk manager Nassim Nicholas Taleb says a "black swan" is an extremely rare, improbable event (like 9/11) that cannot be predicted, yet has catastrophic impact. Black swans are events outside the vision, experience and technology of the world's derivative traders' geniuses.
What will the black swan destroy? How about the derivatives market that spreads so far beyond subprime loan obligations.

Pimco's Bill Gross warns that $500 trillion of derivatives are hiding in a "shadow banking system" that "craftily dodges the reserve requirements of traditional institutions and promotes a chain letter, pyramid scheme of leverage ... with no requirements to hold reserves against a significant 'black swan' run that might break them."
Derivatives have become a renegade army of "I, Robots." "According to the Bank for International Settlements ... total derivatives amount to over $500 trillion, many of them finding their way onto the balance sheets of SIVs, CDOs and other conduits of their ilk comprising the Frankensteinian levered body of shadow banks."

Shadowy? Pyramid schemes? Frankenstein? Terminator? Black swan: Gross paints a much darker future than Janszen: "The last two decades alone have witnessed pyramid schemes involving savings and loans/junk bonds, the small investor/dot-coms, and now global bonds/subprimes ... in each and every case the originator of a surefire 'can't miss' concept collected huge premiums from a willing investment public, only to see the pyramid collapse either of its own merits or from the lack of additional gullible investors. There will be more to come, much like a regular university that welcomes a never-ending stream of new 'students' who pay annual 'tuition' to be 'educated.'"

Higher truth

Never-ending: Gross and Janszen agree on that. But they're both wrong. The biggest flaw in Janszen's argument: "Given the current state of our economy, the only thing worse than anew bubble is its absence."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Remember, this new paradigm assumes that the only way the American economy can exist in the future is if Wall Street's greedy "bubble-blowing machine" keeps feeding on itself, creating an endless, accelerating succession of ever-bigger bubbles.

Folks, that's one of the dumbest economic theories ever, silly "new age" magical-thinking touted as a scientific basis for the new self-indulgent ideology of Wall Street, Washington and Corporate America.

There's a higher truth: The best (not worst) strategy would be to let the "bubble-blowing machine" implode, live with the absence of a new bubble for a while, then quietly step back and reassess our unsustainable "growth-at-all-costs" economic policies that are secretly designed to benefit the self-interests of Wall Street's insiders who profit by endlessly blowing bubble after bubble ... after bubble ... after ....


AGAIN: This was written a Year Ago.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Home sales continue decline
Median prices hold in Bend, Redmond

By David Fisher / The Bulletin
Published: July 17. 2007 4:00AM PST

Bend developer Darrin Kelleher says he's still in the market for buildable land in Central Oregon this summer, even though the housing market is "certainly on its nose."

The reason: Kelleher, a self-described optimist, thinks the region will shake off its excess inventory by spring 2009, opening the gates again - the gates, not the floodgates - to new growth.

Long-term, the nationwide outlook for housing is "upbeat," according to a study released recently by the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University.

Fueled largely by immigrants and their native-born children, the number of American households is expected to grow by 12.6 million by 2015, according to the Harvard study - about 2 million households more than the nation added between 1995 and 2005.

That, combined with an "enormous growth in household wealth" over the last 20 years, "will help propel residential spending to new heights, the study concluded. But the nation's housing markets will continue to be dogged by price weakness and sluggish sales as long as affordability remains an issue and until current inventory levels, fueled by the speculative frenzy of 2004 to early 2006, dissipate. When that will occur, the Harvard study did not guess.

Kirk Schueler, president of Central Oregon's largest developer, Brooks Resources Corp., said he and the Brooks board of directors don't expect local housing prices and sales to stabilize, at this point, possibly until 2009. Brooks opted to pull the plug on a high-end riverfront townhome project in Bend earlier this year, partly because the company expects weakness to continue in that market for at least another year, Schueler said.

"I'd say it's going to be a good buyers' market for most of the next six to 12 months," Schueler said. "From July 2008 to July 2009, the market will get back to predictability."


Again: Same crap, different day.

Standard Bull Procedure. They've had this thing "recovering" since those DARK, DARK days of 2006. I shudder to remember them. The horror! Medians were at $349,250! How could we go on!

My God. Folks, we're at $239K medians AND FALLING. These people would have you jump in NOW, blow your life's savings, and go down with the ship. DO NOT DO IT.

I'll tell you right now: JUMP IN when medians are at $125-140K medians AND YOU HAVE A JOB OR BUSINESS THAT CAN SUSTAIN THAT. Either that, or buy CASH. I am going to attempt the latter... if I am still here. Which I readily admit might not be the case.

Why? Same fucking reason I don't move to BURNS today. Burns has got dirt cheap, shitty laborer housing GALORE. Burns is also a SHITHOLE. And YES, that is what Bend will become. Except Burns will look better than Bend pretty fucking soon, cuz Burns NEVER jumped on the Bubble Express.

I see NO FUTURE in Bend for many THOUSANDS of people. This place will go GHOST TOWN. And I well may be one of those to pack up & GO.

Bewert said...

Butter, Baker City is purty. And on an interstate. With very cheap real estate.

Anonymous said...

>My God. Folks, we're at $239K medians AND FALLING.

Uh... where you been? We are at $229k medians. $239k was on the 20th of the month... it went down.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

What's real hilarious about this, is we'll look back on RIGHT NOW as a Great Time. We'll look back at now as that time when we were down 50% (or whatever), and that'll LOOK GREAT in a few years.

Party conversation circa 2011 in bend:

"Wow, I'd lost half of everything, and with my debt, I was flat broke... but I'd take that in a heartbeat over how things are now."

GET OUT NOW.

Anonymous said...

>Butter, Baker City is purty. And on an interstate. With very cheap real estate.

I went to Baker to look at it two years ago. Fuck it was depressing - not that here won't be in a year. On top of that I asked the guys at the shop where they mountain biked and they mentioned some small trail area that had a crap ton of goatheads, then said "then this trail near LaGrand, this other trail near LaGrand, this third trail near LaGrand... etc... We went to LaGrand and there was good mt biking. We asked them where they rode road bikes, and they said it was too damn windy in LaGrand, and they rode in Baker. If I'm going to be living in a shithole, at least I'm going to be able to ride my road and mtn bikes from my house, which is why I moved here 10 years ago.

Anonymous said...

Party conversation circa 2011 in bend.

"Damn, can you believe the inflation? Another 6 months of this and I might actually be able to sell my house for what I owe on it."

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Uh... where you been? We are at $229k medians. $239k was on the 20th of the month... it went down.

Funny that 18 months ago when medians were $350K, BendBB took a bet that they would not go to $200's by year end. He did win, but by 30-60 days or so.

I would bet that he WOULD NOT take the same bet now regarding medians in the $100's before years end.

I still owe him that burrito.

Medians in the $100's would have sounded so insane 18 months ago. Here we are! Pretty soon we'll look back on $229K as AWESOME!

"Man, those were the days!"

When we're down to $130K, the Bull has stopped running Pollyanna pieces, and no one is interviewing Roger Lee or Alana Audette... then we'll know it's time.

LavaBear said...

Hey Butter, did you ever take that MNC plunge? Or was it WGO? Either way at least we can take some comfort that it's not just the Bullshittin suffering a case of the rocket diarrhea. The Register Guard is suffering as well.


RV sales may fuel optimism for industry

A show in Junction City attracts buyers to a well-stocked, indoor showroom

BY ANNE WILLIAMS
The Register-Guard
JUNCTION CITY — It’s a buyer’s market for the would-be RV owner, to be sure, with sales down, inventory up and many dealers and manufacturers struggling mightily.

But the dark cloud over the recreational vehicle industry kept a low profile Saturday at Guaranty Family RV Center, where as of 4:30 p.m. approximately 60 people — several intent on a purchase — had strolled through the well-stocked lots and roomy indoor showroom at the 2009 RV Show & Sale.

“It’s been a great two days,” sales manager Gary Hoffman said of the show, a joint event with next-door Camping World that began Friday and runs through Jan. 11. “We’ve seen more traffic in the last two days than we’ve probably seen in the last two weeks.”

By Saturday afternoon, his crew had closed a half-dozen motor home sales, a fine showing in any year, Hoffman said.

The strong start to 2009 fuels Hoffman’s optimism that the industry — battered by a combination of record-high fuel costs this summer, tight credit and flagging consumer confidence — will soon rebound.

“I think there’s a lot of pent-up demand,” he said. “People have been looking for a reason to go look at the new models, maybe they’re looking at the lifestyle.”

The likelihood of a great deal lured David and Melissa Huber of Springfield to the show, and they found it: a used, 1996 Leprechaun Class C motor home, with a pale blue interior and room to sleep six. The listed price was about $19,000, they said; they paid $11,000.

“We just figured they were wiling to actually deal on the prices of them a little bit better, because everybody knows the industry’s down,” said David Huber, an avid hunter and fisherman who wanted something he could tow his boat with on the family’s frequent weekend getaways.

It’s the couple’s second RV from Guaranty, though they sold the first — a trailer they bought in the early 1990s — about 10 years ago. With stable jobs (he’s a wildlife technician for the Bureau of Land Management, she’s a phlebotomist at McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center), their two children “nearly” out of the nest and retirement just a few years off for David, the timing was right to become RVers once again, they said.

Though mileage was a consideration, they don’t expect to travel much beyond Oregon — not unless David makes good on his threat to become a pro bass fisherman in retirement.

“That would require us to go to the Southern states,” he said, smiling at his wife.

Among the more casual shoppers Saturday were Bernie and Ginger Bjornstad of Eugene, who are thinking about trading in their 39-foot Jayco travel trailer for a small motor home, something self-contained and easier to maneuver.

“We’re retired and we take a lot of trips to the coast, up and down the West Coast, usually one to two weeks at a time,” said Bernie, who spent most of his career as a business manager for a large insurance agency.

They checked out a 2009 Itasca Navion iQ on the showroom floor, which has a suggested price of about $100,000 and gets 17 to 18 miles to the gallon. But they weren’t close to being ready to take the plunge.

“When we do buy, the odds are we’ll probably buy used to keep the cost down,” Bernie said.

The dozens of RVs on the lot ran the gamut: new and used, $5,000 tent trailers on up to a half-million-dollar Country Coach Veranda, featuring one of the industry’s newest innovations: a retractable balcony. The Veranda was brought in only for the show, Hoffman said; most of the high-end motor coaches are sold on Guaranty’s Coburg sales lot, with the Junction City store’s top models typically costing no more than $300,000.

Hoffman acknowledged 2008 was a difficult year for dealers and RV makers alike. Last week, on the heels of a series of layoffs and a longer-than-usual holiday furlough, Junction City-based Country Coach told employees it will have to shut down for good in two months if it can’t obtain new financing.

Coburg-based Monaco, meanwhile, has also laid off workers and extended the holiday furlough, and has seen the price of its publicly traded stock tumble over the last year.

The Recreational Vehicle Industry Association said shipments through September 2008 were down almost 25 percent from 2007 and predicted 2009 shipments will be 25 percent lower still.

But Hoffman said he’s convinced the recreational vehicle lifestyle will not just endure but thrive.

“The biggest thing I’d tell you is we’re optimistic and we have reason to be,” he said. “No one is going to take vacation away from the United States of America.”

Copyright © 2009 — The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon, USA

Anonymous said...

"2009 will be fine" - BULL

"Under 9 your fine, over 9 you mine" - traffic cop

Rhymes are for children. The BULL thinks those that are left in BEND are children.

Here's a simple FACT. Moss is afraid, very fucking afraid. It's all a house of cards, and its all coming down.

Anonymous said...

“I think there’s a lot of pent-up demand,” he said. “People have been looking for a reason to go look at the new models, maybe they’re looking at the lifestyle.”

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Bull fucking shit, they're looking to do a 'marge', and find a little rig to head south, remember these 'people' have lost their house.

This is the new gypsy model, so yes, if they have a little carriage pulled by an old horse for the right price, the new gypsy's will be them.

That said folks about the time DORN hung himself it couldn't get any worse for RV's ( a few months ago ), things now can only get BUTTER, I mean better.

I think you'll see a lot of people going RV route remember millions of 'retirees' have lost everything.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

did you ever take that MNC plunge...

Yup, got my ass waxed.

Mercifully, I didn't buy much.

Anonymous said...

I went to Baker to look at it two years ago. Fuck it was depressing - not that here won't be in a year.

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Check out Elgin, ... its the Matterhorn up there.

Baker City is what it is, its for folks who want to live off the land, and self-sustain. There is Sumpter also.

You can mtn-bike fucking anywhere. If you must have phils trail system, then start a COTA out near Baker and develop trails. The trails in Bend just didn't fall out of someones ass.

There are ton's of old mining/logging roads west of Baker in the blues, and its all empty.

Bewert said...

RE:
I went to Baker to look at it two years ago. Fuck it was depressing...

Baker City is what it is, its for folks who want to live off the land, and self-sustain. There is Sumpter also.

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Went through it and spent a few hours just after Thanksgiving. Went through Sumpter on the way home, too.

Nice area. Looked better than when we checked it out in 2005. Downtown was rather charming. Looked like organic growth rather then PR-fueled boom growth.

Now that gold rig in Sumpter sure chewed up some land.

Anonymous said...

Everything be fine in 2009.

tim said...

To be honest, I don't see the Bulletin piece as positive.

It sounds like interviews with servicemen in POW camps.

Anonymous said...

>Nice area. Looked better than when we checked it out in 2005. Downtown was rather charming. Looked like organic growth rather then PR-fueled boom growth.

When I was out there the first couple times it was for the Elkhorn Stage Race bike race. Downtown was bustling and people were out everywhere. The downtown was solid old buildings with wide streets. Restaurants were all busy. The road riding was great. I had this picture of it in my head when I went in a mid week of February 2006. Wow it was different. I hadn't realized that the bike race was one of the biggest draws to the city, and that it was dead. I know dead. I grew up in a 1500 person town in Maine. Baker was dead. I figured it could be something nice in 10 years, but I didn't think I could last that long there.

It's farther away from what I do than Bend is. The valley and Portland is where I do about half of my bike racing (the other half is in Bend), which was about 45 days last year. If I lived in Baker it would be about 5 days. Not sure if I'm ready to axe that part of my life yet. There are going to be more races in Bend this year than last by about 10.

Bewert said...

You sound like me about 20 years ago :)

We worked in Alta in the winter and every spring we would head south for the Tucson Stage Race and then out to Cali--San Luis Obispo, Cat Hill Crit, etc. We would take turns motorpacing each other on the quiet roads in the Southwest. Race fit in six weeks. And living at 9000 feet gave us a built in advantage. Especially patrolling, as it was so physical. And we had a bunch of fit mofo's on crew that just enjoyed beating on each other.

Fun times.

Anonymous said...

“Restaurants? At the peak, we had close to 40 places to eat in 16 square blocks, so you have to wonder how much we could sustain even in good times. How many more go? I don’t know, I hear tons of speculation all day long, but will we lose more? It’s fairly likely.

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I agree with TIM, the BULL forever was in DENIAL. Now they're in defeat, now the 'game' is we have see the "BOTTOM", and we're going to crawl our way out.

But here's the problem right here. Bend is Aspen, and now NOTE its the GOOD food places that are going, soon there will be NO GOOD food places in BEND. What the fuck happened to CULINARY AssPen?? People with money don't want RedRobin or OliveGarden. OH yea, you want the BEST of BEND?? Then head to Zydeco, behind the Walmart, North of Harbor Freight, and to the left of the strip club, on the ugliest section of asphalt in BEND.

Here's MY PREDICTION for 2009.

MASS FUCKING EXODUS of the TRULY FUCKING RICH. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WEATHER THE UGLY STORM HERE.

We already know the future of BEND, more WALMART(s), More Olive-Garden, More Red-Robins.

Anonymous said...

There are going to be more races in Bend this year than last by about 10.

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Yep, we know, all subsidized by COVA, CORA, COBA, e.g. City of Bend Taxpayer.

Best of all these events are PR&MARKETED by Switzer who owns the SORE. Nice to have the city cover your even in PR/MARKETING cost?? Eh?? No wonder these KUNTS love Bend city-hall.

So we'll be soon paying people to come to Bend to road race, mtn-bike race, single-track race, downhill race, free style race,...

Shit in the summer we can make MT-B into a world class free-style down-hill race course use the lift to send up bike & rider. All paid by the city of Bend.

Yep, we're going to crawl out of this whole with Bikes on the backs of the taxpayer.

Probably ok, bikers of all shades are notorious for being cheap tight asses, and eating BAD Mexican food, thus there is no shortage of that bad 'cali style' mex in Bend.

tim said...

Yeah. Red Robin and Olive Garden is where my kids want to go. It's not where my wife and I want to go.

Are you going to go to fucking Red Robin on your night out without the kids? I don't think so.

tim said...

Note that none of these people quoted are saying anything. It's mumbling and "blah, blah" all the way through. They said what you say when you have nothing to say.

A whole page of worthless sentiment.

This is how the Bulletin "addresses" the situation.

This is supposed to say, "we're standing tall like Anderson Cooper in the hurricane," but these local cats don't have the panache and wardrobe of Cooper.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like interviews with servicemen in POW camps.

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What do you think of the new gruel sgt Moss-Dufus? "Well its not merenda"

Do you think there will be more Audia's this year in the camp Priv Costa? "No siree, best time to be in a concentration camp in 20 years"

Gen Hollern do you think your men & women can survive another winter in this camp?? "Remember these are non-real people, with non-real children, who have never had real jobs, what these fucking people need is a good 1980's style bitch-slap"

Reporter Andrew signing off, Happy New Year, if new prez elect Barack the Magic Negro does what all the prisoners think he will we could be home by March of 2009.

Duncan McGeary said...

"Note that none of these people quoted are saying anything. It's mumbling and "blah, blah" all the way through. They said what you say when you have nothing to say.

A whole page of worthless sentiment.

This is how the Bulletin "addresses" the situation."

Tim,

I said almost the exact same thing over on my blog. Though you said it better.

Anonymous said...

http://www.strangeandnew.com/content/images/20050924_cooper.jpg

"I'm Anderson Cooper reporting for CNN.

"I'm live in downtown Bend and 5 restaurants have just blown away into the desert. The winds here are incredible.

"We're going to stay here as long as we can, but at some point we might need to take refuge in this comic book store behind me."

tim said...

Thanks Dunc. I'll hop over to your blog and read your piece.

Duncan McGeary said...

"This is supposed to say, "we're standing tall like Anderson Cooper in the hurricane," but these local cats don't have the panache and wardrobe of Cooper."

Funny stuff. I'd add, with Anderson Cooper standing in a flood plain. And behind him walks a guy in tennis shoes and a windbreaker.....

Hollow reporting.

Anonymous said...

A whole page of worthless sentiment.

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What's interesting is its always the same people, the people who control the fucking BULL, the people are hanging near death on the edge of a cliff.

This is the town that PR&MARKETING built.

The only thing these people KNOW is PR&MARKETING ( talking shit and showing pic's of shit, like dogs running wild in BEND, which as we know is FUCKING ILLEGAL ).

So we have a town ran by shit-eaters, for shit-eaters, but now even food in Bend is shit. I can see in the weeks to come long after STACATTO is gone, that the BULL will be doing reviews on the GREAT Italian food @ OLIVE-GARDEN.

We're already seeing story's in the BULL about how WALMART will save us.

Soon we'll be told its our duty to eat-out at all the shitty horrible places in the NEWER NEW BEND. To shop @walmart, and have a bite at the internal clean & safe micky-D.

But thinking back to the days of old, prior to Deschutes even of 1988, there was Sully's out near where Jackalope is by the car shops near hwy-20 east of Powell BUTT. Sure there was bad chinese on I97, and there has always been VERY BAD Mexican in BEND, and there will always be.

Personally given like KUNSTLER says, that BIG-BOX malls in the US are FUCKED, that landlords running them will starve, that our Red-Robin, Olive-Garden's are all near the BIG-BOX, and as the BIG-BOX implodes, as MORE people are stabbed, robbed, and raped at night in these parking-lots in BEND, ... These places will not survive.

Anonymous said...

It's not just stabbed and raped at the big box store anymore. Last week some dude figured out how to screw up 35mph Purcell and flipped down dead into the Costco parking lot. WTF?

Anonymous said...

Well I read dunc's post on the BULL's advice for 2009 to be the best year ever.

ADVERTISE!!

Who would have guessed? That giving all your money to the BULL would be the salvation of BEND??

Well if your a taxpayer you already did by paying that $5M for the land that they got from HOLLERN for free, that $5M was taxpayer money to the BULL. But now the BULL wants front-door money, no more back door?

Why now? Why does the BULL now want to fall back to old fashion ECON??

Anonymous said...

HEY KUNTS the OREO's magic cabinet is already imploding ...

The Wall Street Journal

Jan. 4, 2009

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson has withdrawn his nomination to be Barack Obama's commerce secretary. The move comes as a federal grand jury is investigating how a California company that contributed to Richardson's political activities won a lucrative New Mexico state contract.

Bewert said...

And our closest allies are carpet bombing a place the size of Salt Lake Valley with all the weapons we have given them, including, some say, cluster bombs. How to make friends and influence people, increasing our standing in the world:

"Nobody even knows what kind of shell it was that hit Gaza City’s main vegetable market this morning – the explosives are falling so thick and fast it could have come from an Israeli naval vessel, an F-16 fighter-bomber, an Apache helicopter gunship, an unmanned drone, an artillery cannon or a tank.

But the results were unmistakable. With Gaza’s ambulance service stretched far beyond its normal capacity, the first mangled bodies arrived in private cars as locals scrambled to save the lives of the shoppers.

The first to be carried in was a boy, his face masked in blood from a head wound as medics whisked him into the overcrowded emergency rooms. The next car disgorged a girl, perhaps 12 or 13 years old, her entrails blown out through a hole in her back by shrapnel.

Then, finally, an ambulance arrived ferried in a man whose legs had cut to pieces by the blast. The driver left his vehicle in the forecourt to help carry the dismembered patient inside.

But then more ambulances started streaming in, their path blocked by the first. Chaos erupted outside the hospital entrance, as a traffic jam of desperate ambulance and car drivers log-jammed the yard.

Unable to find the first ambulance driver or the keys, people were forced to push the vehicle out of the way before the macabre procession of dead and maimed could resume.

Medics said five people were killed in the market bombing, and 40 wounded. Israel said it had no knowledge of a market being hit. But at the same time, victims from other areas of the bombarded city were streaming in, including two elderly women in house-coats.

Doctors at the hospital are exhausted by the constant stream of casualties, the worry about dwindling medical supplies and the threat of diesel for their generators running out, which would switch off vital life-support systems.

Yet every minute they have to make life or death triage judgements.

“We are so tired we are probably making poor decisions about who to save and who not to,” said one drawn-looking doctor. “I think we are losing patients because of this.”

A Norwegian volunteer doctor, Eric Fosse, working at al-Shifa, the central hospital of Gaza City, said almost 30 per cent of the casualties were children. He said two young boys had been hit by shrapnel when they were playing on the roof of their house because their parents had forbidden them from going on to Gaza’s deadly streets. One was killed and the other critically wounded, with one leg amputated.

Palestinian medics also said a tanks shell killed five members of the same family as they were driving in their car near Gaza City, as desperate civilians fled areas of fighting. Among the dead was a 14-year-old girl, they said.

But still the onslaught continued, with explosions and the menacing thud of Apache heavy machinegun fire echoing across the strip as the deadly day turned into yet another terrifying, sleepless night."



And this is really rich:

A Palestinian man sitting on the rubble of a building reads a leaflet dropped by Israeli Air Force planes over the Gaza Strip. The message reads in Arabic: "To the residents of the area, due to terrorist actions that some terrorist groups commit from your residential area, the Israeli Defense Forces had to immediately respond in your area. For your safety you are required to evacuate the area immediately"

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Evacuate? Where?

The sad reality is that some things just never change. We be the sheeple, fed with purty stories and otherwise ignored.

Anonymous said...

>Yep, we know, all subsidized by COVA, CORA, COBA, e.g. City of Bend Taxpayer.

Bullshit, again. Maybe some cash went to getting Cross Nationals here, but it'll bring in a couple million.

Cascade Classic, High Desert Omnium, Cascade Chainbreaker, Pickett's Charge, WebCyclery's cross series, Matt Plummer's new short track mtb, time trial and crit series, Gina Miller's time trial series and the new cross series.. NONE of the cities money. Zero.

Once again Porkchop, you know nothing of what you speak.

But, it seems 25% of my comments these days are to let people know that Porkchop is wrong.

Anonymous said...

Who will the Jews kill when they run out of Palestinians??

Anonymous said...

But, it seems 25% of my comments these days are to let people know that Porkchop is wrong.

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Keep up the good work we need opposition in this town.

Anonymous said...

Every fucking BIKE event in BEND is promoted by COVA, which is financed by the the city with city taxpayer money.

Every fucking bike event in BEND is promoted by the BULL, which is kept on life support with taxpayer money.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Actually, Cascade Classic probably takes city money, but pulls a lot into the city. The rest I still stand by.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

The COVA mother lode, always go back to mama.

http://www.mbsef.org/events/ppp/

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Bewert said...

Re: COVA motherlode

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Huh?

Anonymous said...

Switzer doesn't give a damn about a Tuesday night short track race. A Wednesday night crit brings less than 5% of the racers from out of town. A Thursday night time trial up skyliner does little for tourisim. Cascade Chainbreaker would be the biggest MTB race in the state no matter what because of the locals.

It's locals, for locals. And there are a shitload of us who are here because of this. Not because I came here to get rich. Not because of COVA, COBA. More because of COTA, and how much of your taxpayer money is going to COTA?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Appears Dec 31 was the re-up cutoff at RealtyTimes.com. Only about 7 left. Lots and lots of agents in Bend did not renew.

Including Doug Farmer. Sigh. Another info source bites the dust.

MrBruce said...

The following was posted anonymously @BEBB2, looks like its true, MAJOR FUCK ramifications for Brasada & Pronghorn. MAJOR ...

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OREGON DEQ ON FRIDAY ISSUED A WARNING TO ALL POWELL BUTTE RESIDENCES NOT TO DRINK WELL WATER THERE. THE AGENCY GOES ON TO STATE A MAJOR TOXIC SPILL AT CINDER LAKES RANCH HAS POLLUTED THE WATER SUPPLY.

IS BEND NEXT?

Anonymous said...

"Baker City is what it is, its for folks who want to live off the land, and self-sustain. There is Sumpter also."

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Check out Bourne, it be the place for survivalists like marge. You can grow your own gold bullion there, and it is somewhat remote, but you have an interstate within 30mins if you need to high tail it outta town to get to an airport for your computer consulting gig.

Real estate is still cheap, but the fine restaurants have yet to be fully established. Maybe that's where Denton will sprout up next.

For those looking for a locale with full cell reception and high speed internet, and all the benefits of an incorporated city, check out Greenhorn. But the RE bubble has finally hit there. An in town lot sold there at auction for over $60K, just dirt. So, the story is that bubbles are like waves; sometimes it takes a bit for the bubble to finally hit the last vestiges of the way outback.

Anonymous said...

The Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) has issued two Pre-Enforcement Notices to North Bend resident Dennis Beetham, owner of D.B. Western Inc., a company that owns and operates formaldehyde and urea-formaldehyde manufacturing plants, for hazardous waste, solid waste, air quality and water quality violations that occurred on his Cinder Lake Ranch property at 1299 NW McDaniel Road in Powell Butte.

Anonymous said...

Hey don't fuck with COTA, we're volunteers its our physical labor that builds the trails.

It's funny that pork-chop basher, throws in COTA, I have never mentioned COTA.

I mentioned COVA, CORA, & COBA.

Big fucking diff, between CITY WHORE SHIT and a group of guys and gals with shovels in the forest west of phils.

tim said...

I know people who live right on the butte. Any indication of how long this toxic dumping's been going on?

Anonymous said...

Switzer doesn't give a damn about a Tuesday night short track race.

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Exactly switzer cares about 4 things

1.) h bowel movement (hbm)
2.) bendbb's toy poodle
3.) city marketing his events
4.) frisbee golf

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regarding bikes that's a dead issue, 100X bike events ain't going to fix the BEND humpty-dumpty, he fell off the wall, bikers are notorious for being cheap, hell you can't get more cheap than riding a bike dirt or asphalt.

Anonymous said...

"http://www.mbsef.org/events/ppp/"

Yeah, lets all crap all over Chuck Kenlan next, founder of Mount Bachelor Sports Edu Foundation. MBSEF is what they named our very own Mount Bachelor (nee Bachelor Butte) shortly after it erupted over 25,000 years ago, so Chuck predates Smitty and all the Brooks Crooks. I think he must be just like Boss Hog Bill Smitty, or Brooks Resources.

If you think the for profit outfits like Pronghorn, Crosswater, and Brasada are bad, then just check out the non-profits. They are the really bad ones, yep., yep. Non-profits = pure evil.

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