Sunday, January 25, 2009

Then and Now

Usually on these weekly posts, I wax on about how awful it's going to get. But I read the following piece, and this week I figured I'd wax off.

Read this.

Great Depression in the United States
I. Introduction

Great Depression in the United States, worst and longest economic collapse in the history of the modern industrial world, lasting from the end of 1929 until the early 1940s. Beginning in the United States, the depression spread to most of the world’s industrial countries, which in the 20th century had become economically dependent on one another. The Great Depression saw rapid declines in the production and sale of goods and a sudden, severe rise in unemployment. Businesses and banks closed their doors, people lost their jobs, homes, and savings, and many depended on charity to survive. In 1933, at the worst point in the depression, more than 15 million Americans—one-quarter of the nation’s workforce—were unemployed.

The depression was caused by a number of serious weaknesses in the economy. Although the 1920s appeared on the surface to be a prosperous time, income was unevenly distributed. The wealthy made large profits, but more and more Americans spent more than they earned, and farmers faced low prices and heavy debt. The lingering effects of World War I (1914-1918) caused economic problems in many countries, as Europe struggled to pay war debts and reparations. These problems contributed to the crisis that began the Great Depression: the disastrous U.S. stock market crash of 1929, which ruined thousands of investors and destroyed confidence in the economy. Continuing throughout the 1930s, the depression ended in the United States only when massive spending for World War II began.

The depression produced lasting effects on the United States that are still apparent more than half a century after it ended. It led to the election of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who created the programs known as the New Deal to overcome the effects of the Great Depression. These programs expanded government intervention into new areas of social and economic concerns and created social-assistance measures on the national level. The Great Depression fundamentally changed the relationship between the government and the people, who came to expect and accept a larger federal role in their lives and the economy.

The programs of the New Deal also brought together a new, liberal political alliance in the United States. Roosevelt’s policies won the support of labor unions, blacks, people who received government relief, ethnic and religious minorities, intellectuals, and some farmers, forming a coalition that would be the backbone of the Democratic Party for decades to come.

On a personal level, the hardships suffered during the depression affected many Americans’ attitudes toward life, work, and their community. Many people who survived the depression wanted to protect themselves from ever again going hungry or lacking necessities. Some developed habits of frugality and careful saving for the rest of their lives, and many focused on accumulating material possessions to create a comfortable life, one far different from that which they experienced in the depression years.

The depression also played a major role in world events. In Germany, the economic collapse opened the way for dictator Adolf Hitler to come to power, which in turn led to World War II.

II. Causes of the Depression

It is a common misconception that the stock market crash of October 1929 was the cause of the Great Depression. The two events were closely related, but both were the results of deep problems in the modern economy that were building up through the “prosperity decade” of the 1920s.

As is typical of post-war periods, Americans in the Roaring Twenties turned inward, away from international issues and social concerns and toward greater individualism. The emphasis was on getting rich and enjoying new fads, new inventions, and new ideas. The traditional values of rural America were being challenged by the city-oriented Jazz Age, symbolized by what many considered the shocking behavior of young women who wore short skirts and makeup, smoked, and drank.

The self-centered attitudes of the 1920s seemed to fit nicely with the needs of the economy. Modern industry had the capacity to produce vast quantities of consumer goods, but this created a fundamental problem: Prosperity could continue only if demand was made to grow as rapidly as supply. Accordingly, people had to be persuaded to abandon such traditional values as saving, postponing pleasures and purchases, and buying only what they needed. “The key to economic prosperity,” a General Motors executive declared in 1929, “is the organized creation of dissatisfaction.” Advertising methods that had been developed to build support for World War I were used to persuade people to buy such relatively new products as automobiles and such completely new ones as radios and household appliances. The resulting mass consumption kept the economy going through most of the 1920s.

But there was an underlying economic problem. Income was distributed very unevenly, and the portion going to the wealthiest Americans grew larger as the decade proceeded. This was due largely to two factors: While businesses showed remarkable gains in productivity during the 1920s, workers got a relatively small share of the wealth this produced. At the same time, huge cuts were made in the top income-tax rates. Between 1923 and 1929, manufacturing output per person-hour increased by 32 percent, but workers’ wages grew by only 8 percent. Corporate profits shot up by 65 percent in the same period, and the government let the wealthy keep more of those profits. The Revenue Act of 1926 cut the taxes of those making $1 million or more by more than two-thirds.

As a result of these trends, in 1929 the top 0.1 percent of American families had a total income equal to that of the bottom 42 percent. This meant that many people who were willing to listen to the advertisers and purchase new products did not have enough money to do so. To get around this difficulty, the 1920s produced another innovation—“credit,” an attractive name for consumer debt. People were allowed to “buy now, pay later.” But this only put off the day when consumers accumulated so much debt that they could not keep buying up all the products coming off assembly lines. That day came in 1929.

American farmers—who represented one-quarter of the economy—were already in an economic depression during the 1920s, which made it difficult for them to take part in the consumer buying spree. Farmers had expanded their output during World War I, when demand for farm goods was high and production in Europe was cut sharply. But after the war, farmers found themselves competing in an over-supplied international market. Prices fell, and farmers were often unable to sell their products for a profit.

International problems also weakened the economy. After World War I the United States became the world’s chief creditor as European countries struggled to pay war debts and reparations. Many American bankers were not ready for this new role. They lent heavily and unwisely to borrowers in Europe, especially Germany, who would have difficulty repaying the loans, particularly if there was a serious economic downturn. These huge debts made the international banking structure extremely unstable by the late 1920s.

In addition, the United States maintained high tariffs on goods imported from other countries, at the same time that it was making foreign loans and trying to export products. This combination could not be sustained: If other nations could not sell their goods in the United States, they could not make enough money to buy American products or repay American loans. All major industrial countries pursued similar policies of trying to advance their own interests without regard to the international economic consequences.

The rising incomes of the wealthiest Americans fueled rapid growth in the stock market (see Stock Exchange), especially between 1927 and 1929. Soon the prices of stocks were rising far beyond the worth of the shares of the companies they represented. People were willing to pay inflated prices because they believed the stock prices would continue to rise and they could soon sell their stocks at a profit.

The widespread belief that anyone could get rich led many less affluent Americans into the market as well. Investors bought millions of shares of stock “on margin,” a risky practice similar to buying products on credit. They paid only a small part of the price and borrowed the rest, gambling that they could sell the stock at a high enough price to repay the loan and make a profit.

For a time this was true: In 1928 the price of stock in the Radio Corporation of America (RCA) multiplied by nearly five times. The Dow Jones industrial average industrial average—an index that tracks the stock prices of key industrial companies—doubled in value in less than two years. But the stock boom could not last. The great bull market of the late 1920s was a classic example of a speculative “bubble” scheme, so called because it expands until it bursts. In the fall of 1929 confidence that prices would keep rising faltered, then failed. Starting in late October the market plummeted as investors began selling stocks. On October 29, known as Black Tuesday, the worst day of the panic, stocks lost $10 billion to $15 billion in value. By mid-November almost all of the gains of the previous two years had been wiped out, with losses estimated at $30 billion.

The stock market crash announced the beginning of the Great Depression, but the deep economic problems of the 1920s had already converged a few months earlier to start the downward spiral. The credit of a large portion of the nation’s consumers had been exhausted, and they were spending much of their current income to pay for past, rather than new, purchases. Unsold inventories had begun to pile up in warehouses during the summer of 1929.

The crash affected the economy the way exposure to cold affects the human body, lowering the body’s resistance to infectious agents that are already present. The crash reduced the ability of the economy to fight off the underlying sicknesses of unevenly distributed wealth, agricultural depression, and banking problems.

III. Economic Collapse (1929-1933)

The stock market crash was just the first dramatic phase of a prolonged economic collapse. Conditions continued to worsen for the next three years, as the confident, optimistic attitudes of the 1920s gave way to a sense of defeat and despair. Stock prices continued to decline. By late 1932 they were only about 20 percent of what they had been before the crash. With little consumer demand for products, hundreds of factories and mills closed, and the output of American manufacturing plants was cut almost in half from 1929 to 1932.

Unemployment in those three years soared from 3.2 percent to 24.9 percent, leaving more than 15 million Americans out of work. Some remained unemployed for years; those who had jobs faced major wage cuts, and many people could find only part-time work. Jobless men sold apples and shined shoes to earn a little money.

Many banks had made loans to businesses and people who now could not repay them, and some banks had also lost money by investing in the stock market. When depositors hit by the depression needed to withdraw their savings, the banks often did not have the money to give them. This caused other depositors to panic and demand their cash, ruining the banks. By the winter of 1932 to 1933, the banking system reached the point of nearly complete collapse; more than 5,000 banks failed by March 1933, wiping out the savings of millions of people.

As people lost their jobs and savings, mortgages on many homes and farms were foreclosed. Homeless people built shacks out of old crates and formed shantytowns, which were called “Hoovervilles” out of bitterness toward President Herbert Hoover, who refused to provide government aid to the unemployed.

The plight of farmers, who had been in a depression since 1920, worsened. Already low prices for their goods fell by 50 percent between 1929 and 1932. While many people went hungry, surplus crops couldn’t be sold for a profit.

Natural forces inflicted another blow on farmers. Beginning in Arkansas in 1930, a severe drought spread across the Great Plains through the middle of the decade. Once-productive topsoil turned to dust that was carried away by strong winds, piling up in drifts against houses and barns. Parts of Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado became known as the Dust Bowl, as the drought destroyed the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of small farmers. Packing up their families and meager possessions, many of these farmers migrated to California in search of work. Author John Steinbeck created an unforgettable fictional portrait of their fate in the novel The Grapes of Wrath (1939).

IV. Initial Response to the Depression

The initial government response to the Great Depression was ineffective, as President Hoover insisted that the economy was sound and that prosperity would soon return. Hoover believed the basic need was to restore public confidence so businesses would begin to invest and expand production, providing jobs and income to restore the economy to health. But business owners saw no reason to increase production while unsold goods clogged their shelves. By 1932 investment had dropped to less than 5 percent of its 1929 level.

Convinced that a balanced federal budget was essential to restoring business confidence, Hoover sought to cut government spending and raise taxes. But in the face of a collapsing economy, this served only to reduce demand further. As conditions worsened, Hoover’s administration eventually provided emergency loans to banks and industry, expanded public works, and helped states offer relief. But it was too little, too late.

The epitome of a “self-made man,” Hoover believed in individualism and self-reliance. As more and more Americans lost jobs and faced hunger, Hoover asserted that “mutual self-help through voluntary giving” was the way to meet people’s needs. Private giving increased greatly, reaching a record high in 1932, but charitable organizations were overwhelmed by the enormous number of people in need. To many, government assistance seemed the only answer, but Hoover was convinced that giving federal relief payments would undermine recipients’ self-reliance, and he resisted this step throughout his term.

The tension between citizens seeking government action and Hoover’s administration came to a head in June 1932. More than 20,000 World War I veterans marched on Washington, D.C., to ask for early payment of government bonuses they had been promised. But the government refused, and when some members of the so-called Bonus Army didn’t leave the capital, federal troops used tear gas and bayonets to evict the men and their families (see Bonus March).

Hoover and most of his Republican Party firmly supported protective tariffs to block imports and stimulate the American economy by increasing sales of American-made products. In 1930 they enacted the Hawley-Smoot Tariff, which established the highest average tariff in American history. This was a crushing blow to European economies, which were already sinking into depression. Other nations retaliated by raising their own tariffs. This action helped to worsen and spread the depression by choking off international trade. Between 1929 and 1932 the total value of world trade had declined by more than half.

V. International Effects of the Depression

Like Hoover, leaders of other nations around the world were determined to balance their budgets by raising taxes and slashing government spending. Germany, struggling to pay reparations imposed by the peace settlements after World War I, suffered to a larger extent than any other major industrial nation. Nearly 40 percent of the German workforce was unemployed by 1932. In these desperate economic circumstances, large numbers of Germans began to listen to the tirades of Hitler, who blamed the depression on Jews and Communists and promised to restore Germany to economic and military strength. After his Nazi (National Socialist) Party became the strongest political force in Germany, Hitler was named chancellor in January 1933. He soon seized absolute control of the German government.

In Britain the effects of the depression were not as dramatic because the nation had been suffering from high unemployment through much of the 1920s. Unlike the United States, Britain already had unemployment insurance and government welfare payments to ease the burden on the jobless. The depression took longer to hit hard in France because it was less industrialized than the United States, Germany, and Britain. Also, because so many French men had died in World War I, the workforce was very small, and it took a severe economic decline before the demand for workers fell below the small supply.

VI. Roosevelt and the New Deal

By the election year of 1932, the depression had made Hoover so unpopular that the election of the Democratic presidential candidate Franklin Delano Roosevelt was all but assured. Confidence—Hoover’s elusive goal—was Roosevelt’s most abundant quality. Declaring in his inaugural speech that “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself,” Roosevelt quickly lifted the nation’s spirits with the rapid and unprecedented actions of the New Deal.

Within days of his inauguration Roosevelt called Congress into a special session, during which many pieces of emergency legislation were passed. Following the example of many states, Roosevelt proclaimed a nationwide bank holiday, closing all banks to stop panicky depositors from withdrawing their money. A few days later he broadcast the first of many fireside chats on the radio, reassuring Americans that all banks that were allowed to reopen would be safe.

The New Deal produced a wide variety of programs to reduce unemployment, assist businesses and agriculture, regulate banking and the stock market, and provide security for the needy, elderly, and disabled. The basic idea of early New Deal programs was to lower the supply of goods to the current, depressed level of consumption. Under the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933, the government sought to raise farm prices by paying farmers not to grow surplus crops. Parts of the National Industrial Recovery Act created codes for many industries that regulated competition while guaranteeing minimum wages and maximum hours for workers.

The New Deal also tried to increase demand, pumping large amounts of money into the economy through public works programs and relief measures. Public works projects not only provided jobs but built schools, dams, and roads; the innovative Tennessee Valley Authority provided electric power and improved living conditions in an area of the southeast United States.

However, Roosevelt never embraced the new ideas of British economist John Maynard Keynes, who argued that intentionally unbalancing the budget to a significant degree would boost demand to the point where recovery would take place. The U.S. gross public debt increased from $22.5 billion in 1933 to $40.44 billion in 1939, but Roosevelt was reluctant to accept any more deficit spending than seemed absolutely necessary to prevent mass suffering. He did not create an unbalanced budget on the scale Keynes advocated until World War II forced it upon him. Once the government started spending at the levels Keynes had suggested, the depression ended.

The New Deal helped people to survive the depression, but acted as a painkiller rather than a cure for the nation’s economic ills. Unemployment was reduced, but remained high through the 1930s. Farm income rose from a low of $1.9 billion in 1932 to $4.2 billion in 1940. The demands of the depression led the United States to institute social-security programs and accept labor unions, measures that had been taken decades earlier in many European nations.

VII. Life During the Depression

The Great Depression had a substantial and varied impact on the lives of Americans. Physically and psychologically, it was devastating to many people, who not only lacked adequate food, shelter, and clothing but felt they were to blame for their desperate state.

Although few people died from starvation, many did not have enough to eat. Some people searched garbage dumps for food or ate weeds. Malnutrition took a toll: A study conducted in eight American cities found that families that had a member working full time experienced 66 percent less illness than those in which everyone was unemployed.

The psychological impact was equally damaging. During the prosperity of the 1920s, many Americans believed success went to those who deserved it. Given that attitude, the unemployment brought by the depression was a crushing blow. If the economic system really distributed rewards on the basis of merit, those who lost their jobs had to conclude that it was their own fault. Self-blame and self-doubt became epidemic. These attitudes declined after the New Deal began, however. The establishment of government programs to counteract the depression indicated to many of the unemployed that the crisis was a large social problem, not a matter of personal failing. Still, having to ask for assistance was humiliating for many men who had thought of themselves as self-sufficient and breadwinners for their families.

Because society expected a man to provide for his family, the psychological trauma of the Great Depression was often more severe for men than women. Many men argued that women, especially married women, should not be hired while men were unemployed. Yet the percentage of women in the workforce actually increased slightly during the depression, as women took jobs to replace their husbands’ lost pay checks or to supplement spouses’ reduced wages. Women had been excluded from most of the manufacturing jobs that were hardest hit by the depression, which meant they were less likely than men to be thrown out of work. Some fields that had been defined as women’s work, such as clerical, teaching, and social-service jobs, actually grew during the New Deal.

The effects of the depression on children were often radically different from the impact on their parents. During the depression many children took on greater responsibilities at an earlier age than later generations would. Some teenagers found jobs when their parents could not, reversing the normal roles of provider and dependent. Sometimes children had to comfort their despairing parents. A 12-year-old boy in Chicago, for example, wrote to President and Mrs. Roosevelt in 1936 to seek help for his father, who was always “crying because he can’t find work [and] I feel sorry for him.” The depression that weakened the self-reliance of many adult men strengthened that quality in many children.

The depression’s impact was less dramatic, but ultimately more damaging, for minorities in America than for whites. Since they were “born in depression,” many blacks scarcely noticed a change at the beginning of the 1930s. Over time, however, blacks suffered to an even greater extent than whites, since they were usually the last hired and first fired. By 1932 about 50 percent of the nation’s black workers were unemployed. Blacks were frequently forced out of jobs in order to give them to unemployed whites.

Yet the depression decade was one of important positive change for blacks. First lady Eleanor Roosevelt and several leading New Deal figures were active champions of black rights, and most New Deal programs prohibited racial discrimination. These rules were often ignored in the South, but the fact that they were included at all was a major step forward. Blacks were sufficiently impressed with the New Deal to cause a large majority of black voters to switch their allegiance from the Republican to the Democratic Party during the depression years. See also African American History.

Other minority populations had experiences similar to those of blacks during the depression. Native Americans were even less likely than blacks to notice a downturn when the depression began; they already fared poorly by virtually every social or economic indicator. But Native Americans, like blacks, were brought into New Deal relief programs that in theory did not discriminate, and an attempt was made, through the Indian Reorganization Act, to enable tribes to reestablish their identities and cultural practices. In industrial cities such as Detroit, Gary, and Los Angeles and in agricultural regions such as California’s San Joaquin Valley, Mexican Americans were seen as holding jobs that should go to whites. Repatriation (meaning deportation) programs were instituted to persuade Chicanos to return to Mexico, often through intimidation.

Groups of white Americans also faced discrimination during this era. Poor farmers evicted from their land or fleeing the Dust Bowl were often despised and abused when they arrived in California and other western states. They were commonly labeled “Okies,” whether they came from Oklahoma or other states.

VIII. End of the Depression

Although economic conditions improved by the late 1930s, unemployment in 1939 was still about 15 percent. However, with the outbreak of World War II in Europe in September 1939, the U.S. government began expanding the national defense system, spending large amounts of money to produce ships, aircraft, weapons, and other war material. This stimulated industrial growth, and unemployment declined rapidly. After the United States entered the war in December 1941, all sectors of the economy were mobilized to support the war effort. Industry greatly expanded, and unemployment was replaced by a shortage of workers.

IX. Legacy of the Depression

The impact of the Great Depression and the programs of the New Deal dramatically altered the relationship between the American people and their government. The federal government expanded its role in many social and economic areas, becoming larger and more powerful. Americans came to accept government involvement and responsibility in caring for society’s most needy members and regulating many aspects of the economy.

The New Deal’s social programs reflected a shift in American values created by the shared hardships of the depression era. The depression experience discredited the extreme individualism and pursuit of self-interest that characterized the 1920s, and revived an emphasis on community, cooperation, and compassion. These values were reflected in the popular culture of the day and in political and labor movements that developed and expanded during the 1930s.

One of the most far-reaching New Deal measures, the Social Security Act of 1935, guaranteed government help to citizens who were unemployed or disabled, to older Americans, and to mothers and children. The National Labor Relations Act (1935) provided protection for union activity, which contributed to the rise of labor unions in mass-production industries such as steel and automobile manufacturing. Unions and racial minorities, who had benefited from the New Deal, were among the groups who became staunch supporters of the Democratic Party, changing American politics for decades to come.

The literature, films, and art of the depression era demonstrated the desire for a more cooperative, less fiercely competitive way of life. Many celebrated the common people, who were contrasted with greedy, powerful interests. Examples included films such as Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939), directed by Frank Capra, and Stagecoach (1939), by John Ford; paintings by Norman Rockwell; songs by folk singer Woody Guthrie; and novels by such writers as John Steinbeck.

While many conservatives believed the New Deal was turning the United States toward socialism, other Americans felt it did not go far enough and sought more revolutionary change. Political movements to the left of the New Deal enjoyed considerable support during the 1930s. Among them were the Minnesota Farmer-Labor Party, which offered radical proposals challenging the capitalist system, and the unsuccessful campaign by novelist Upton Sinclair to be governor of California in 1934, proposing essentially socialist programs to “End Poverty in California.” By alleviating some of the worst effects of the depression, the New Deal helped defuse tensions and preserve a democratic, capitalist system at a time when other nations turned to fascism or socialism.

The return of prosperity during and after World War II revived some of the forces that divided society and promoted self-interest in the 1920s. But the experience of the Great Depression left a lasting mark on the United States in the forms of a much greater role for the federal government, a new political alignment in which Democrats would retain the support of a majority for most of the next half century, and a general feeling that the free market must be regulated in order to avoid another such economic catastrophe.

Contributed By:
Robert S. McElvaine, B.A., M.A., Ph.D.
Elizabeth Chisholm Professor of Arts and Letters and Chair of the Department of History, Millsaps College, Mississippi. Author of The Great Depression: America, 1929-1941.
"Great Depression in the United States," Microsoft® Encarta® Online Encyclopedia 2008
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OK, at what point does this thing get a little eerie? OK, I'll agree it's not a carbon-copy of today. But it's Close. The Past is Prologue, folks. Get ready.

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Bewert said...

First thing I thought when I saw the big pic of Fish on the front page of the BULL biz section is that he must be hurting.

Anonymous said...

I just looked at my credit card statement and I owe $20,000. Someone must have STOLEN my card and ran it up.

Except that $3k I spent on the big screen TV. And the $2.5k I spent on the big rims and lift kit on my truck. And the new boobs for my wife. And the Bachelor ski passes for the full family I couldn't afford. Oh, and I took that vacation. There was a new leather couch too.

But other than that... where did that $20k go?

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Fuck you, you idiot, you got $20k of fucking assets now sell them.

In Bend its different, we gave Ray Kuratek $2.5M, what is there to show for it?

In your fucking analogy, you got a wife with new tits and a big TV.

What did the BEND taxpayer get for seeing their city BK?

It's easy to walk away from $20K as an individual, much harder for a city to walk away with $200M.

The BIG fucking difference here, is that CROOKS ( the person who still has the goods ), use OUR credit-card to make itself rich, and we didn't get the goods.

BIG fucking difference.

HBM is a fucking idiot, and so are is aliases.

Anonymous said...

First thing I thought when I saw the big pic of Fish on the front page of the BULL biz section is that he must be hurting.

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Why this has to be done. Don't you get it?? They contract brew in PDX, there are dozens of places in PDX running under capacity.

Also DB is fucked, once Suterra moves out, and DEQ inspects the ground water here between Nosler ( lead poisoning ), and Suterra 25 yrs of ground water polluting with cyanide, nobody will touch DB beer, its the water stupid, they got to do this and quick, you can't have your brewery next to the biggest fucking toxic waste site in central orygun, bad for PR.

Besides, DB needs to expand in order to survive, they need to be on the I5 cooridor in PDX and there are tons of employees in PDX that know brewing is his a no brainer.

Bend is fucked, and was always fucked.

Anonymous said...

I'll fourth or fifth that it wasn't stolen. Roads cost money. Sewers cost money. Hiring people costs money. A city can go into debt quite quickly with shitty planning and not charging enough fees.


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But that's NOT where the money went, it went to the BULLetin, and avion water, and ray kuratek, and knife-river for 'make-do' and 'honey-do' projects, maybe 25% of the $200M went to SDC, the rest went to GOB's & GOG's ( good old gals ).

Given $5M last year of city debt to the BULL was not an SDC.

Anonymous said...

I fifth this thread. Summit 1031 was not an act of theft either, as all the money went to doing gods work here in Bend.

Thus the people who lost $24M should drop their lawsuits, as all this money went to a christian cause.

Those who suggest that Summit 1031 was operating a ponzi are stealing client money are wrong, they were investing in Bend.

Anonymous said...

It's not theft or stealing it's more seriously stupid planning.

[ Stupid or criminal, either way, $200M is there, and current revenue can't pay the bill, and we must BK, note all the people who OK'd the debt, are now all BEND GONE!!! ]

See once again you see Machevelian plots where I see government stupidity.

[ Machiavilli was NOT 'conspiracy theorist' he was a realist, who understood how government works. ]

Anonymous said...

The Bend economy is totally fucked. What's to debate? - HBM

* It's about BEND, we're debating BEND

For historical purposes its important to record WHO stole the money and WHY.

I know that BP&HBM don't care about WHO&WHY, but others do.

BEND is MORE fucked than other places.

We live in Bend and can do something about it, the other places we can do nothing.

Think Global, Act Local.

At best 25% or $50M of the $200M debt was used for infrastructure, the rest went straight to individual pockets.

It was a party, its was grab-bag, it was easy-money, and everybody got their share while they could. Now Bend can't borrow no more, why is illegal to talk about YOU got the $150M dumped into their private bank account?

LavaBear said...

>>>Suterra 25 yrs of ground water polluting with cyanide

Do you even have a clue what Suterra produces? I mean a smigeon? A little bit?

Anonymous said...

It was a party, its was grab-bag, it was easy-money, and everybody got their share while they could.

Now Bend can't borrow no more, why is illegal to talk about WHO got the $150M dumped into their private bank account(s)?

Some of the money is still floating around, perhaps if somebody in this lazy fucking kleptocracy used cared about this city, at the very least the schools could be saved, their $7M short, hell you can get back $15m buy just forcing the BULL & Hap-Taylor to take their fucking worthless land back.

Anonymous said...

Do you even have a clue what Suterra produces? I mean a smigeon? A little bit?

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Google "suterra cyanide",

Google "Suterra spraying"

Google "Suterra lawsuit"

Google "Suterra Resnick"

Google "Suterra injunction"

have a good day.

LavaBear said...

I don't need to google it because I know what they make. My question is do you have a frickin clue? From what you are googling you don't but I'm just asking?

Anonymous said...

Google "suterra cyanide",

Google "Suterra spraying"

Google "Suterra lawsuit"

Google "Suterra Resnick"

Google "Suterra injunction"

Anonymous said...

The largest fucking lawsuit in California history is pending against the spraying of bio-engineered poison manufactured by Suterra on the people of California.

Suterra is the Nazi Zyklon-B manufacturer for these Nazi times.

Fish KNOWS in order to SELL beer in CALI, it can't say "MADE in BEND".

BEND may have spent ten's of millions by COVA marketing the BEND brand, but the fact that the most evil poison spraying in US history, the fact that the poison was MADE in BEND-Orygun, forever tarnishes BEND.

Don't ANY of you fucking KUNTS get it? Don't you see that BEND-ORYGUN is the fuck pariah of the world? That 'made is in Bend' is like saying 'child fucker' or worse?

LavaBear said...

You aren't answering the question. So just for fun I googled suterra cyanide and whoa....it's your very own made up ramblings about it. Who would of guessed.

Before you start spouting off about contaminated ground water you need to do a bit more research on the subject. Right now you are so far off base it's not reasonable.

Anonymous said...

Don't blame the messenger for the bad news. Suterra knew they had a $500M contract, and Stewart Resnick of LA is the richest man in Calif who owns Suterra and also is the biggest campaign contributor to both DEM's & PUG's.

It still doesn't change the FACT that the largest fucking BEER MARKET in the USA NOW HATES BEND-ORYGUN.

The sooner that DesBrew can label "made in Portland", the sooner they can increase cali market share.

Anonymous said...

google "Suterra iso-cyanide"

Anonymous said...

People tend to drop the "iso-" from the cyanide.

Lava, why do you blame the messenger, I love deschutes, and I used to love Harry Lonsdale who created Suterra from Bend Scientific,

I can't help it that Lonsdale sold Suterra to the biggest asshole in CALI, who used the poison to fuck those people who now hate BEND, not my fucking fault.

Perhaps rather than DENIAL, some of you KUNTS should have spoke up early, rather than now when its game-over for BEND.

NO SECOND CHANCE KUNTS YOUR FUCKED.

Anonymous said...

>Fuck you, you idiot, you got $20k of fucking assets now sell them.

Actually he's got a $3k tv that he would have a hard time getting $1k for used. A jacked up pickup that is one of 1000 of them for sale in Bend so it's worth dick. New boobs are like our parks.. nice to look at. The ski passes are for our worst season in years and worth nothing. The vacation money is gone. And with every furniture store in Bend going out of business and selling new furniture for 1/3 the old price the leather couch is worth $100.

So he's got $1,100 worth of assets to show for the $20k and is paying $3700 interest a year on it.

Not that different.

LavaBear said...

>>>The sooner that DesBrew can label "made in Portland", the sooner they can increase cali market share.

I'll happily bet you a burrito that Deschutes will NEVER change the made in Bend, OR label.

Anonymous said...

The largest fucking lawsuit in California history is pending against the spraying of bio-engineered poison manufactured by Suterra on the people of California.

Suterra is the Nazi Zyklon-B manufacturer for these Nazi times.

Fish KNOWS in order to SELL beer in CALI, it can't say "MADE in BEND".

BEND may have spent ten's of millions by COVA marketing the BEND brand, but the fact that the most evil poison spraying in US history, the fact that the poison was MADE in BEND-Orygun, forever tarnishes BEND.

Don't ANY of you fucking KUNTS get it? Don't you see that BEND-ORYGUN is the fuck pariah of the world? That 'made is in Bend' is like saying 'child fucker' or worse?

Anonymous said...

Do Not Spray: The Little Moth Causing Big Protests : Planetsave
Suterra, the manufacturer of CheckMate, is reformulating this pesticide for the next round of spraying primarily because the original formulas sprayed over ...
planetsave.com/blog/2008/04/22/do-not-spray-the-little-moth-causing-big-protests/ - 68k - Cached - Similar pages
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Fight or Flight by Kera Abraham | Page 1 | October 25, 2007 ...
Oct 25, 2007 ... But HOPE attorney Alexander Henson said the EPA’s exemption requires Suterra and the CDFA to report any adverse effects of the spraying. ...
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US Feds & CA State plan BIOCHEMICAL ATTACK on Santa Cruz County 11 ...
Suterra lawyers issued at least 5 Cease and Desist order to silence people and newspapers from disclosing what is in the spray. ...
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Apple Moth Questions and Answers, Response to CDFA Lies, Take ...
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Moth spraying in Calif. now legal battle - Environment- msnbc.com
Oct 19, 2007 ... The pheromone spray they've used to combat it — a product called Checkmate that's manufactured in Bend, Ore., by Suterra, LLC — has been ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21377526/ - 53k - Cached - Similar pages

Anonymous said...

Google "iso-cyanate", which is crazy-glue, NOT good for the lungs of children, or pets, fuck adults, they should have sprayed this SHIT on BEND, and just wacked the fucking KUNTS


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Juniper Ridge Info: UPDATE: Suterra Sale--Site Pics, Cali Spraying ...
polymethylene polyphenyl isocyanate (Pesticide manufacturer Suterra acknowledges this ingredient is used to make Checkmate, but EPA claims ingredient is not ...
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Safety of Checkmate Chemicals Review of Material Safety Data ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Disputed ingredient polymethylene polyphenyl isocyanate is said to be the starting material for this ingredient. Checkmate manufacturer Suterra says ...
www.lbamspray.com/00_Documents/2008/RoyUptonHealthLetter/Checkmate;%20Safety%20of%20Chemicals%2012.28.pdf - Similar pages
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Suterra Issues Cease and Desist Letter to Indybay regarding ...
Oct 17, 2007 ... The identity of this isocyanate compound can now be found in court ... It is my belief that Suterra's saber rattling is worthless as they ...
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publish.nyc.indymedia.org | Suterra Issues Cease & Desist Order to ...
Suterra LLC, a manufacturer of "biorational" pest control products based in Bend , ... The identity of this isocyanate compound can now be found in court ...
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LavaBear said...

>>>Lava, why do you blame the messenger

I'm not blaming anybody. You just need to go do a bit of research on this subject. You've entered a subject I know much about and you need to get your facts straight. FACT

The crap you are cutting and pasting is idiot talk. Go look into what they manufacturer and the mechanisms they use to do what they do. You may learn something.

Anonymous said...

So what part of Suterra making friendly little products don't you fucking get lava??

They fucking make poison, and they sprayed it on 1/2 million people,

It's a FUCKING PR disaster for Deschutes Brewery, to be next door to the assholes.

Anonymous said...

You've entered a subject I know much about and you need to get your facts straight. FACT

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It's been a long time since we discussed this issue.

The FACTS are what they make are NOT good.

The FACTS are they have destroyed the BEND BRAND.

Fact.

Hopefully with BUSH being out, Suterra will go out of business or better yet Stewart Resnick will sell them, and they can go back and make chemicals that make butterflys NOT want to fuck.

LavaBear said...

So what part of me telling you I know what they make and you obviously don't from everything you have posted. Go do your research you may learn something.

Anonymous said...

>It's a FUCKING PR disaster for Deschutes Brewery, to be next door to the assholes.

People who live in Santa Cruz that I know and others I met didn't have any clue about the spraying or Suterra. It's not a PR disaster because very few people know about it. If people in Santa Cruz don't know, do you think anyone else in the state gives a fuck?

They don't. It's not a PR disaster.

Anonymous said...

You just need to go do a bit of research on this subject

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FUCK YOU.

All I said orginally today was that once they move to the new site, and DEQ starts testing that site near DesBR is fucked. That's MY FUCKING OPINION based on years of working with DEQ.

WRT to your assertion that Suterra is good people, I have my own evidence that they're biggest fucking assholes the USA.

An opinion is like an asshole.

I apologize saying cyanide, or iso-cyanide, its been a longtime, the correct term is 'iso-cyanate'.

None of these are good things for pets or children, especially to be sprayed on hoods, even if they are calis, which is why nobody in Bend cared.

See Bend is a PUG town, and the spraying was on hippy areas of CALI, so it was PUG OK.

LavaBear said...

>>>They fucking make poison

See right there you blow it with your stupidity. It's way better if you know something about a subject before you make up your theories. Like I said you need to go do some real research. Figure out what they make and how that mechanism works. Then you can make shit up that is way more believable and way more enjoyable for us all.

Anonymous said...

People who live in Santa Cruz that I know and others I met didn't have any clue about the spraying or Suterra. It's not a PR disaster because very few people know about it.

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The jews that died in the Nazi death camps didn't know. Good Germans that I know in those hoods said no jews died, good enough for me, never happened.

Move along, please ignore the lawsuits against suterra.

Anonymous said...

Someone who knows a little about a subject is more dangerous than someone who knows a lot, or knows none. FACT.

Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU LAVA, 'CHECKMATE' that SUTERRA makes is a MSDS registered poison.

Safety of Checkmate Chemicals Review of Material Safety Data ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Disputed ingredient polymethylene polyphenyl isocyanate is said to be the starting material for this ingredient. Checkmate manufacturer Suterra says ...
www.lbamspray.com/00_Documents/2008/RoyUptonHealthLetter/Checkmate;%20Safety%20of%20Chemicals%2012.28.pdf - Similar pages
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Suterra Issues Cease and Desist Letter to Indybay regarding ...
Oct 17, 2007 ... The identity of this isocyanate compound can now be found in court ... It is my belief that Suterra's saber rattling is worthless as they ...
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publish.nyc.indymedia.org | Suterra Issues Cease & Desist Order to ...
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Anonymous said...

So here we are today, and thanks to BEND CITY apologist 'LAVA'.

We have found out that Suterra doesn't make poison, and city-hall didn't steal $200M from the taxpayer.

Move along children.

Bewert said...

With Suterra, it's not the product, it's the packaging.

The microencapsulation of the pheromone is what is the problem. Tiny little plastic bubbles, with a mean size of 17 micrometers/microns, finer than a human hair, made with acetate and isocyanate. Their bragging point is their problem, at least when humans breath them in. Just like the output of a coal-fired power plant, but you get the chemicals with it.

The pheremones are actually a good idea.

Anonymous said...

Someone who knows a little about a subject is more dangerous than someone who knows a lot, or knows none. FACT.

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That is NOT the issue your denying that Suterra manufactured the poison that was sprayed on california, all courts have upheld that it was poison, and the sprayings were halted.

LavaBear said...

>>>isocyanate

Ok boy genius answer this. Can you tell me what they use the isocyante for? If you did your research you could.

LavaBear said...

>>>With Suterra, it's not the product, it's the packaging.

Gatdamn...Buster even Bruce did his homework. That's low Buster when Bruce knows and you are ignorant about it.

Anonymous said...

The pheremones are actually a good idea - BP

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Damn good idea, great marketing, now what do we about the fucking iso-cyanate, and those nasty cali children and their pets.

The road to hell is paved with good ideas, look at Nazism, and Bend City Debt.

Anonymous said...

That's low Buster when Bruce knows and you are ignorant about it.

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Fuck you lava, bruce got all that info from me back in Nov 2007, when me & him were the only fucking people in Bend, that would talk and write about this issue.

So where do we stand on this now, is Suterra a great company or what??

Again the problems is all those leaking 55gal drums of iso-cyanate so fucking close to DesBrew, ...

LavaBear said...

>>>Fuck you lava, bruce got all that info from me back in Nov 2007


Dude you are funny. You still don't know what it is do you? It's ok, just admit it and we'll move on.

Anonymous said...

Ok boy genius answer this. Can you tell me what they use the isocyante for? If you did your research you could.

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I have now posted the links ten times , you fucking read them.

The problem with the bio-encapsulation technology is that while perhaps great for moths or insects, not so great for human lungs where the shit can stick around for up to six months, this is why DOD is so interested in SUTERRA for delivering bio-weapons, you can have a remote-control plane spray poison, and defer release for up to six months.

Suterra is an EVIL FUCKING COMPANY.

Anonymous said...

Their bragging point is their problem, at least when humans breath them in. Just like the output of a coal-fired power plant, but you get the chemicals with it. - BP

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Yes, but their problem in court was they argued that the bio-encapsulation cocktail was 'inert' and they refused to identify the materials, by court order they eventually had to disclose the manufacturing process. The doctors in cali had seen similar symptoms of inhalation of iso-cyanate ( crazy glue ), but didn't have a link, once Suterra had to admit that it was a major component of 'checkmate', then they could hardly argue that such a nasty substance is/was inert.

Today ALL Suterra spraying in URBAN area's of Cali has been banned by courts.

Anonymous said...

Dude you are funny. You still don't know what it is do you? It's ok, just admit it and we'll move on.

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All that matters is that under BUSH Suterra had a $500M contract to spray cali with Suterra-Checkmate, now with BUSH out, that contract is KAPUT, which means SUTERRA is KAPUT.

Bend Over.

But the damage has been done to Bend, Cali, and DesBrew.

Bewert said...

On where the money went:

4/4/07

6. Consider authorizing the purchase of 62975 Boyd Acres for $4.1 million
(Issue Summary)

Public Works Director Ken Fuller advised that Public Works is running out of space. Currently space is being leased and operations are spread throughout the City. Consideration has been given to building a new facility for Public Works. The cost would be over $4.5 million. Purchasing the property at Boyd Acres would meet the space needs of Public Works for 20 to 50 years. The purchase price is $4.1 million and worth of the property has been estimated at over $5 million.

Councilor Clinton asked about the nature of the required modifications to the site. Mr. Fuller explained modifications would be needed in order to meet code requirements. Cost would be about $50,000. Additional improvements may be requested for space for crews to shower and have lockers. This could be done in the future if necessary.

Councilor Telfer asked what projects the City will forego to accomplish this. Mr. Fuller explained that the project list equates to a couple hundred million dollars for water, wastewater improvements and plant facility work. He referred to the operations and maintenance costs. He referred to bonding and debt service. The projects on the capital improvement list are funded and included in the funding package for the budget. $2 million out of water and $2 million from wastewater could be an impact to the capital improvement program. He stressed that the department is at a point where it needs to find more space. Councilor Telfer asked whether the lease vs. purchase option has been considered. Mr. Fuller explained that lease expenses would be $100,000 per year for wastewater collection crew alone. This figure would double when water, electricians and telemetry space is leased. The debt service is $400,000 to bond for the $4.1 million for the purchase. Leasing would be about half the cost of debt service on the loan. The source of revenue to service the debts would be rate increases included in the rate package. Councilor Telfer confirmed that there is not increase in rates due to this purchase. Mr. Fuller confirmed that rate increases are not anticipated directly due to purchase, but programmed rate increases that are part of the five-year commitment included capital improvements to facilities and operational costs. This money will come out of the programmed rate increases that are coming this year.

Councilor Capell declared an indirect conflict of interest as Todd Taylor is his cousin. He studied analysis on the options and sees a $10 million savings over the other choices in the long run. He believes this purchase makes a lot of sense.

Councilor Friedman moved to authorize the purchase of 62975 Boyd Acres for $4.1 million. Councilor Johnson seconded the motion.

Councilor Telfer clarified that the motion is to cover just for the purchase price of the property.

The motion passed unanimously, 7/0.

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Note the only mention of TaylorCo is when Capell noted Todd is his cousin. You have to go to the packet for that meeting and click on the Issue Summary to learn it was purchased from Taylor NW LLC.

And it only cost us twice as much as leasing space would have. Bought at the peak price level.

Fucking idiots.

Anonymous said...

>>>isocyanate

Ok boy genius answer this. Can you tell me what they use the isocyante for?

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Crazy-glue - crazy bear ever sprayed a car with clear-coat? Better have used a positive-pressure air supply.

Given that you can't spell cyanate, I'm not going to fuck with you anymore, lets get back to Bend city-hall robbing the tax payer of $200M.

Anonymous said...

And it only cost us twice as much as leasing space would have. Bought at the peak price level.

Fucking idiots. - BP

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Yes, IDIOTS, NOT CROOKS, IDIOTS.

FUCK ALL OF YOU, the city was and still is ran by idiots, but they were lotted by crooks.

Anonymous said...

4/4/07

6. Consider authorizing the purchase of 62975 Boyd Acres for $4.1 million

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Fucking top of MARKET, nobody else on earth would have bought that property, by then it was bend-over for selling worthless bend land.

BP post the BULLetin sale in the following year, see there is pattern here of 'corporate welfare' to the fat-cats of Bend using MUNI-DEBT.

Need cash? It's OK, this is BEND, we'll pay top dollar for worthless desert land, money is free, Bend has great credit, and our card wasn't even close to max.

So I ask?? What did the people of Bend get for Giving Ray Kuratek $2.5M, and more since last year??

Bewert said...

Re: FUCK ALL OF YOU, the city was and still is ran by idiots, but they were lotted by crooks.

###

Not sure what "lotted" means, but now the idiots are trying to get a majority out and out financed by development interests.

Thinks that's going to make things better?

Bewert said...

Another couple million for JR.

It's fucking endless.

I'm trying to track down the old BULL property purchase for a new admin building from TaylorCo. Somebody help me out with the approximate date. Summer '06?

Anonymous said...

I'll happily bet you a burrito that Deschutes will NEVER change the made in Bend, OR label.

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Labeling laws say that they'll have too.

For awhile they might even keep the HQ here, but Bend is where people play, not where they work.

Bewert said...

Re: What did the people of Bend get for Giving Ray Kuratek $2.5M, and more since last year??

###

They are still getting 6% on the sales of properties within the first 50 acres, too. Never ending BS.

But, hey, at least Ray and Jeff showed up at the last JRMB meeting. Although Jerry told me a couple weeks ago they aren't doing anything until the City can start selling land again. The JRMB agreed that this won's happen until at least September, when they get the land parceled and approved, settle on infrastructure placement and financing, etc.

I'm trying to get a post up about that but it's been to fucking busy.

What drives me fucking crazy is that we are spending all this money and its just moving jobs from one place in the area to another. Very few NEW jobs.

Anonymous said...

Yes, JR is the ultimate HONEY-POT for theft in BEND.

My favorite BP is the way they book all the debt on the JR-BURA financials.

Everytime they borrow more money they book the debt as future land-sales, so everything balances back to the city general-fund, its insane.


Today the 'future land sales' as an asset on JR is booked as $30M, think about this, to date they have taken in $5M, and Kuratek got 1/2, and both pardners ( les-schwab & suterra ) were shot-gun marriages.

The things that MOSS has done for Knife-River ( MDU ) just fucking boggles the mind.

But remember its all for baby-jeebus, ...

Anonymous said...

Pronghorn named Amerikka's top Golf Course by Travel and Leisure Golf.


http://www.travelandleisure.com/tlgolf/articles/golf-americas-top-100-golf-communties-the-top-25-2009


Makes you wonder how bad the rest of the countries golf courses are.

Anonymous said...

They are still getting 6% on the sales of properties within the first 50 acres, too. Never ending BS.

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What BP is saying is the JEFF&RAY are getting 6%, the PEOPLE of BEND, just get the BILL.

Anonymous said...

What drives me fucking crazy is that we are spending all this money and its just moving jobs from one place in the area to another. Very few NEW jobs.

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Much worse than that BP, Les-Schwab is now just a marketing company, and doesn't even need to be in central-oregon. All their products made in China, recall's they're fucked, they'll get bought by a major for market share.

With the Suterra cali-spary contract of $500M dead, with BUSH gone, Suterra's income will plummet.

It's a good thing the Bend taxpayer paid for everything at JR, so that no corporate money was lost.

Anonymous said...

Re: FUCK ALL OF YOU, the city was and still is ran by idiots, but they were looted by crooks.

###

Not sure what "looted" means, but now the idiots are trying to get a majority out and out financed by development interests.

Thinks that's going to make things better?

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I think we all agreed a few years ago that Jeff&Ray were crooks that pray on stupid fucking citizenry, once the GOB's saw J&R walk with $2.5M everybody stepped to the plate to raid the Bend Treasury.

The city simply can't finance anymore other than for 'transportation' which has no legal cap, that said the BEND credit rating because sdc ratio ( <1.5 ) is so fucked, nobody may loan. Given the two year lag, and city's all over the USA are going BK, the city will not see anymore money, as the entire MUNI-DEBT CDO biz is drying up, too many investors losing their principal.

Anonymous said...

Not sure what "looted" means, but now the idiots are trying to get a majority out and out financed by development interests.

Thinks that's going to make things better?

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What the fuck does "majority out, and out finaced' mean??

Bank robbers rob banks cuz that's where the money is, at this particular time is US history robbers rob city-hall using debt gimmicks, cuz that is where the money is.

Bewert said...

1. Pronghorn
Bend, Oregon

Six hundred paces into the volcanic caverns beneath the Fazio golf course at Pronghorn is an unlikely office where Ron Davis, the community’s director of development, toils by lamplight with old Pink Floyd albums as background music. Davis emerged one day from his nontraditional workstation with sketches and plans for Tesana, a new enclave within this ever-evolving high-desert community. An influential California architecture firm, Bassenian/Lagoni, executed the idea in a style that merges Tuscan villa living with a “contemporary organic” theme drawn from Frank Lloyd Wright. These homes have smaller footprints and price tags than most Pronghorn housing, but an enviable location on “the peninsula” between two (distinctly different) golf courses. Their arrival is Pronghorn’s big news maker of 2008. Start-up of construction on a long-awaited hotel will be 2009’s major move.

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Just what we need.

Bewert said...

Re: What the fuck does "majority out, and out finaced' mean??

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4 of 7 financed by our local builders and realtors, once the get Leonard in.

Anonymous said...

Pronghorn named Amerikka's top Golf Course by Travel and Leisure Golf.

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I thought that Tetherow was the best in the world?

It's great that these magazines will call you #1 for a little ad, or a free game, or a few all expens nights in Bend.

Can you imagine being out there in Prongy? What the fuck do they do? It ain't golf 9 months a year.

Anonymous said...

4 of 7 financed by our local builders and realtors, once theY get Leonard in.

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Well like I always say "BEND IS A PUG TOWN".

It's actually going to be fun to watch, cuz I mean lets be honest the good people ( amenity parasites ) of Bend, voted these fuckers in.

Who is Leonard going to sell propane to if they kill the bus? I bet they lay off cops and fire-men, before they shut-down the BAT-BUS honey-pot. That's FED money, the only kind of CASH that Bend might see.

It's not going to be fun for Eckman she likes to have fun and spend money, but where they going to get the money?? Shit the Bend credit-card is fucked, can't use that, ...

They're going to MUSCLE the UGB, and hope that all those numb-nuts sitting on land that couldn't before build STD's run in and get permits to build STD's, well all I can say, so is, who in the FUCK is going to loan money for building STD's in BEND?? Even the new UGB Bend.

With 10k unemployed here and NO jobs, the smart thing to do would lobby for money to put all our unemployed and homeless into our +5K homes, .... I say 'smart' sarcastically, but lets me honest, we know the 'new council' knows that this inventory MUST be cleared out.

It doesn't seem they can possibly get us in anymore debt, should be fun to go to meetings and watch the misery.

Anonymous said...

On Pronghorn:

Has there been a Fazio or Nicklaus course that has failed? If Pronghorn were to fail would that be the realization to the world that golf is dead? If golf is dead, golf magazines are dead.

Anonymous said...

>>they'll get bought by a major for market share.

I don't see how a buyout doesn't happen, now that the old man is gone.

Anonymous said...

>I say 'smart' sarcastically, but lets me honest, we know the 'new council' knows that this inventory MUST be cleared out.

A couple well placed "forest fires" like last time G.W. visited could take out some inventory.

Anonymous said...

Has there been a Fazio or Nicklaus course that has failed? If Pronghorn were to fail would that be the realization to the world that golf is dead? If golf is dead, golf magazines are dead.

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Golf is dead, where the fuck have you been?

You really can over-sell, and over-hype, and over-brand a good thing, look at Bend, it ain't cool anymore and builders are killing themselves to leave.

All good things come to and end.

Anonymous said...

Boeing to Chop 10000 Jobs
BusinessWeek - 25 minutes ago
By Joseph Weber With demand for commercial jets losing altitude, Boeing (BA) reported a $56 million net loss for the fourth quarter of 2008 and said it is taking some tough steps to keep itself aloft..

Anonymous said...

Starbucks to Cut 6700 Jobs After Earnings Fall 69%
Bloomberg - 29 minutes ago
By Courtney Dentch Jan. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Starbucks Corp., the world’s largest chain of coffee shops, said it will cut 6700 jobs and close 300 more stores after reporting first-quarter profit that fell more than analysts estimated.

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Anonymous said...

* JANUARY 28, 2009, 6:26 P.M.

As House Passes Stimulus, GOP Senators Hope to Change Plan

By COREY BOLES

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. House passed its version of the $819 billion economic stimulus package, but there is still plenty of work to do before the legislation is finalized in the Senate.
Question of the Day


Republican senators, who like their House counterparts, have been less than enthusiastic about the Democratic stimulus legislation as it stands, are working on their own series of proposals they will try to add to the recovery package.

GOP senators are preparing a housing package they hope the Democrats will agree to add to the stimulus plan, which they say would tackle the core problem besetting the U.S. economy.

The centerpiece of the plan would see the federal government guarantee loans for homebuyers at a discounted rate of 4%. The loan would be available to both first-time buyers and homeowners seeking to refinance their mortgages.

Who Gets What
[stimulus]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123315486943524321.html?mod=djemalertNEWS

See how some of the major stimulus spending will be shared by the states.

The rates would be effectively subsidized by the federal government. Borrowers could lock in the low rate for 30 years, but would be subject to conditions in order to qualify for the rate.

Sen. John Ensign (R., Nev.) said the cost of the proposal was still being evaluated, but that he firmly believed it would help kickstart the flagging housing market.

A second component of the plan would be an increased home tax credit for homebuyers. The credit would be worth $10,000, or 15% of the value of the home, whichever is less. It would be available until the end of the year and wouldn't have to be repaid.

A final proposal would see assistance for people who are currently under water on their mortgages -- meaning the amount outstanding on their loans is more than the value of the home. This could involve working with third parties to either lengthen the term of the loan or reduce the principle owed.

Another idea being put forward by both Democratic and Republican senators would include a provision in the stimulus bill that would allow U.S. multinationals to bring profits derived from their foreign operations onshore at a reduced tax rate.

Currently, these companies must pay a corporate income tax rate of 35% on any profits they bring onshore. The proposal would give them a one-year window to bring their foreign profits onshore, only levying a 5% rate of tax on the earnings.

Ensign, who is working on the amendment with Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer (D., Calif.) said there is an estimated $1 trillion in U.S. profits sitting offshore.

Another idea that Sen. Ensign is putting forth would provide tax relief to companies that are seeking to restructure their debt.

Sen. Max Baucus (D., Mont.), the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, added a provision to the tax section of the bill that would defer the tax that firms have to pay related to corporate restructuring for up to eight years.

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President Barack Obama, flanked by Xerox CEO Anne Mulcahy, left, and Google CEO Eric Schmidt, meets with business leaders to discuss the economy.
President Barack Obama, flanked by Xerox CEO Anne Mulcahy, left, and Google CEO Eric Schmidt, meets with business leaders to discuss the economy.
President Barack Obama, flanked by Xerox CEO Anne Mulcahy, left, and Google CEO Eric Schmidt, meets with business leaders to discuss the economy.

The president said the CEO session was "sober," given the recession and thousands of layoffs across a swath of industries. He said policy makers and industry will be responsible for lifting the country out of its funk.

Attendees included Steve Appleton, CEO of Micron Technology Inc.; David Barger, CEO of JetBlue Airways Corp.; Greg Brown, co-CEO of Motorola Inc.; John Bryson, CEO of Edison International; David M. Cote, CEO of Honeywell International Inc.; Debra Lee, CEO of BET Holdings Inc.; Anne Mulcahy, CEO of Xerox Corp.; Sam Palmisano, CEO of International Business Machines Corp.; Antonio Perez, CEO of Eastman Kodak Co.; Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google Inc.; Michael Splinter, CEO of Applied Materials Inc.; Wendell Weeks, CEO of Corning Inc.; and Ron Williams, CEO of Aetna Inc.

"These are people who make things, who hire people. They are on the front lines in seeing the enormous problems in our economy right now," Mr. Obama said. "Their ideas and their concerns have helped to shape our recovery package, and I'm grateful that they're here today to talk about why it's so important that we act, and act swiftly, in order to get this economy back on track."

Ahead of Mr. Obama's meeting with CEOs, Applied Materials' Mr. Splinter said action on solar energy could create jobs and boost economic growth. Specifically, Mr. Splinter called for short-term refundability of the federal solar investment tax credit, the adoption of renewable and solar energy sources for federal properties, and enhancement of the renewable technology loan guarantee program, according to a company release.

IBM's Mr. Palmisano said a $30 billion stimulus investment in health-care technology, smart electric grids and broadband could yield almost one million new jobs within a year.

"In the end, it's businesses -- large and small -- that generate the jobs, provide the salaries, and serve as the foundation on which the American people's lives and dreams depend," Mr. Obama said. "All we can do, those of us in Washington, is help create a favorable climate in which workers can prosper, businesses can thrive, and our economy can grow. And that is exactly what the recovery plan I've proposed is intended to do."
—Henry J. Pulizzi, Greg Hitt and Elizabeth Williamson

Anonymous said...

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-STIMULUS0109.html

State

Aid to states

Aid to states, per capita

School and college modernization

School and college modernization, per capita

Job training

Job training, per capita

Transportation and infrastructure

Transportation and infrastructure, per capita

Oregon

747,154,000

197.14

209,934,000

55.39

39,414,636

10.40

498,364,188

131.49

Anonymous said...

Nothing more JUMBO than BEND, and nobody wrote more JUMBO than CACB, ...

Banks and Investors Face 'Jumbo' Threat

Rising defaults by affluent homeowners are raising the specter of another cloud over banks and investors, which could get stuck with thousands of expensive homes.

About 6.9% of prime "jumbo" loans were at least 90 days delinquent in December, according to LPS Applied Analytics, a mortgage-data research firm. The rate was up sharply from 2.6% a year earlier. In comparison, delinquencies of non-jumbo prime loans that qualify for backing by government agencies climbed to 2.1% from 0.8% in December 2007.

Jumbo mortgages average about $750,000 and can run as high as $5 million or more. More borrowers with such loans ...

Anonymous said...

Ouch, ..."The entire economic growth system, where one regional center prints money without respite and consumes material wealth, while another regional centre manufactures inexpensive goods … has suffered a major setback," Mr. Putin said.

Wen, Putin Slam U.S. Economic System

By MARC CHAMPION in Davos, Switzerland, and ANDREW BATSON in Beijing

The premiers of Russia and China slammed the U.S. economic system in speeches Wednesday, holding it responsible for the global economic crisis.

Both focused on the role of the U.S. dollar, with China's Premier Wen Jiabao calling for better regulation of major reserve currencies and Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin calling over-reliance on the dollar "dangerous."
[Wen and Putin] Getty Images

Wen Jiabao and Vladimir Putin address the World Economic Forum in Davos.

Speaking on the opening day of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, they both urged more international cooperation to escape the downturn. They also talked up the abilities of their own economies to ride out the recession. Mr. Wen said he was "confident" China would hit its 8% growth target for this year even though that was "a tall order." (See the full text.)

The Russian and Chinese leaders also called for cooperation with U.S. President Barack Obama, but it was a chilly reception for the new administration that reflected growing anger in economies that are now getting hit hard by a financial crisis that began with subprime mortgages sold in the U.S.

Mr. Putin was characteristically blunt. He called for the development of multiple, regional reserve currencies in addition to the dollar. "Excessive dependence on a single reserve currency is dangerous for the global economy," Mr. Putin said. (See the full text.)

The Russian leader mocked U.S. businessmen who he said had boasted at last year's Davos meeting of the U.S. economy's fundamental strength and "cloudless" prospects. "Today, investment banks, the pride of Wall Street, have virtually ceased to exist," he said.

Earlier, Mr. Wen called for an expansion of regulatory "coverage of the international financial system, with particular emphasis on strengthening the supervision on major reserve currencies."
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While Mr. Wen never named the U.S., his critique of its failings was as sweeping as Mr. Putin's. The financial crisis, he said, was "attributable to inappropriate macroeconomic policies of some economies and their unsustainable model of development characterized by prolonged low savings and high consumption; excessive expansion of financial institutions in blind pursuit of profit" -- and other excesses.

"The entire economic growth system, where one regional center prints money without respite and consumes material wealth, while another regional centre manufactures inexpensive goods … has suffered a major setback," Mr. Putin said.

Mr. Wen's comments came just days after U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner accused China of manipulating its currency for economic gain. The Chinese premier gently, but firmly warned that if Washington and Beijing chose confrontation, both would be losers.

But the different tones of the two speeches, and the fact that Mr. Wen didn't call for replacing the dollar's role as the world's reserve currency but regulating it, reflect crucial differences in the important emerging economies.
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"In a very real sense Russia has been kicked to the margins, while China has become pivotal to any resolution of the financial crisis," says Bob Lo, Director of the Russia and China programs at the Center for European Reform in London.

The rapid collapse of oil and commodities prices has hit Russia hard on top of the ripples of the financial crisis. The government now forecasts the economy will shrink for the first time in a decade this year, after growing 6% last year.

Mr. Putin's government has spent $200 billion of hard currency reserves to defend the Russian currency, the ruble. It has spent as much again in a bailout package that amounts to 15% of gross domestic product, one of the largest responses to the financial crisis in the world. Unlike China, Russia's economy is too dependent on commodities exports and too small to play a significant role in any global recovery, says Mr. Lo.

Russia also has negligible trade with the U.S., while Chinese exports are heavily dependent on U.S. consumers and Beijing holds $2 trillion in U.S. debt, prompting a much more cautious approach towards Washington and the dollar in Beijing.

The net effect of falling oil prices and the downturn, however, has been to make Russia more vulnerable and the Kremlin weaker, analysts say. Russian officials have begun to send out more conciliatory signals to the new U.S. administration.

"We wish the new team success," Mr Putin said Wednesday, calling on it to cooperate.

China, too, is suffering from the downturn. Many independent economists, including economists at the International Monetary Fund, question whether Beijing will be able to meet its 8% growth target this year.

Developed nations are increasingly calling for China to do more to stimulate its own economy. On Wednesday, Mr. Wen gave a detailed account of the four trillion yuan ($585 billion) investment program China announced in November. "As a big responsible country" China was actively boosting domestic, and particularly consumer demand, said Mr. Wen.

The headline sum in the program would likely be equivalent to around 3% of gross domestic product in 2009 and 2010. But even government officials aren't promising that much of a boost to the economy. Zhang Ping, the head of the National Development and Reform Commission, in November estimated it would add about one percentage point to GDP growth this year and next.

That may have seemed like a lot at the time, but expectations for global and Chinese growth have rapidly deteriorated since then. Mr. Wen said growth slowed to 6.8% in the fourth quarter from the same period a year earlier. That's a little more than half the 13% gain in 2007, at the height of the boom. Some economists believe China could grow by as little as 5% this year, too little to provide jobs for the graduates flooding into the labor market from Chinese universities and schools each year and a further drag on the global economy.

Less noticed in Mr. Geithner's repetition of Mr. Obama's campaign-trail assertion that China "manipulates" its currency last week was his argument that the long U.S.-Chinese dispute over currency didn't matter as much as getting China to do more to boost its economic growth.

"Given the crisis the immediate focus needs to be on the broader issue of stabilizing domestic demand in China and the U.S.," Mr. Geithner said in his written response to questions during his Senate confirmation process. "A further slowdown in China would lead to a substantial fall in world growth (and demand for U.S. exports) and delay recovery from the crisis."

Anonymous said...

Excellent cover-up, excellent, victim, ... mis-characterization, ... excellent, ..

LAPD: Dad in family's murder-suicide awash in debt

By THOMAS WATKINS – 34 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Awash in debt, behind on his mortgage and recently fired from his job at a hospital, Ervin Lupoe was planning on leaving California. He'd pulled his kids out of their school, packed his sport utility vehicle with snow chains and winter clothing for him and his family and appeared ready for the trip to his brother-in-law's home in Garden City, Kan.

It's not yet known if he was planning on leaving for good in a bid to flee his mounting money problems or if the trip would have only been temporary.

Whatever his intention, Lupoe never got to Kansas.

Instead, police say, he shot his five children and wife to death before turning the gun on himself.

"Something happened in the last 48 hours that made him snap," said Detective David Cortez, the lead investigator in the case. "(He saw) no other way, no other direction."

Investigators found evidence of spiraling financial woes. Lupoe owed the Internal Revenue Service at least $15,000 and a check he wrote the agency for that amount had just bounced.

He also was at least one month behind on a mortgage for his home in Wilmington, near the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. Jobs are scarce in the area and the real-estate market is sinking. Lupoe owed about $2,500 and a late fee, Cortez said. He also owed thousands more on a home equity line of credit.

Police found the bodies of Lupoe, his wife and five children Tuesday morning. It appears the family had been killed the evening before and Lupoe shot himself the next day, Cortez said.

Lupoe and his wife Ana had both recently been fired from their jobs at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center West Los Angeles. The two technicians had understated their income on an application for childcare in a bid to get cheaper rates, Cortez said.

Lupoe faxed a bitter, two-page letter to a local TV news station the morning he killed himself, saying a hospital administrator told him he "should not even have bothered to come to work" and "should have blown (his) brains out."

Investigators interviewed the hospital administrator, who said Lupoe's characterization of their conversation was an out-of-context misrepresentation and denied using the words Lupoe said she did.

In his letter, Lupoe went on to suggest it was his wife's idea to end the family members' lives.

"He had one of those victim mentalities," Cortez said. "There is nothing yet that suggests his wife was a willing party."

Anonymous said...

Interesting take ...


Snakebit L.A.: Lupoe family massacre, one-way freeway carnage

by Jill Stewart
January 28, 2009 3:25 PM

Is Los Angeles snakebit? It feels that way today, with the city falling apart in epic proportions, harder hit by home foreclosures and unemployment that almost any other area of the West, and now leading the official Bad News segments of national and global news organizations.

It seemed to come to a head yesterday with the insane, sick Ervin Lupoe massacre-suicide.

News reporters couldn't decide whether to spin this mass murder as a horrifically tragic tale of economic woe or a blood-drenched story about a gun nut who snapped and decided to take everybody in the house down with him.

Then early today, a wrong-way driver, probably drunk or on drugs, got on the Santa Monica freeway and slammed head-on into the car of a Culver City cop, killing the officer. Traffic was backed up for many miles on the city's Westside, and cops all over Los Angeles were in mourning.

All this human carnage cast a pall over L.A. on this incongruously beautiful, sunny January day.

At the coffee shops, folks were openly wondering what is wrong with Los Angeles. That question seemed especially pointed when some media reported that, among Ervin Lupoe's last communications was his truly gross claim that his wife was in on the killings of their two sets of twins and fifth child.

This well-liked mother was in on this infanticide and child-killing? Is that really possible?

We'll see. We already know that Ervin Lupoe spewed other big lies before he killed his family in their big house down near the Port of Los Angeles. He alerted authorities that he was planning a murder-suicide, for instance, but police now say that was a dodge-- Lupoe had already murdered them all.

We know that this couple was devastated by their firings from Kaiser, after officials there allegedly caught them committing financial fraud for personal gain, involving a child care program.

But the Lupoe family massacre is not looking like an economics story or a recession story. A company would fire a worker over that kind of wrongdoing, if they believed it to be true, recession or not.

Given Ervin Lupoe's lying, even on his soon-to-be deathbed, it won't be surprising if police announce that, no, this was not a case of matronly infanticide. That this was a bloody scheme that played out entirely inside the head of Ervin Lupoe.

Would such a revelation make Los Angeles feel any better about its ugly, violent self? No, but the media might get a grip on some of its "recession caused murders" overhype.

Tags: Culver City, foreclosure, fraud, infanticide, insanity, Kaiser Permanente, LAPD, Los Angeles, Lupoe, mass murder, massacre, media bias, murder-suicide, recession, Wilmington

Anonymous said...

Chilling details of Kaiser Permanente firings murder-suicide released

Man blames recent firing for hopelessness in letter to local TV station before killing his family.

Zach Oliva


The faces on police officers leaving the scene told the story.

“The reaction on their faces was not a pretty sight,” neighbor Jasmine Gomez told CNN. “There was an officer who came out of the house throwing up.”

Ervin Lupoe shot his wife and five young children earlier this week in their Los Angeles home before turning the gun on himself. Now details are emerging as to why it happened.

In a letter faxed to Los Angeles television station KABC before the suicide, Lupoe blamed his former employer, Kaiser Permanente’s West Los Angeles Medical Center, for the deaths. In the letter, he detailed his frustration for the recent firings of him and his wife, reported CNN.

Lupoe wrote in the fax, “After a horrendous ordeal, my wife felt it better to end our lives and why leave our children in someone else’s hands ... we have no job and 5 children under 8 years with no place to go. So here we are.”

“Oh lord, my God,” the letter concludes. “Is there no hope for a widow’s son?”

The Lupoes had been fired a week ago. Kaiser Permanente released a statement Tuesday night to address the situation.

“While we may never fully understand why today’s senseless deaths occurred, everyone who worked with the Lupoes is shocked and terribly saddened by the tragedy,” said the statement. “It never should have happened.”

Our Take:

It is difficult to sum up a tragedy like this in only a few words. Economic hardship is hitting millions of people across the country. No matter how bad things may get, I will never understand how you can murder an innocent woman and five young children.
01/28/09

Lupoe family on Facebook.com.
Lupoe family


Highlights

* A man shot his wife and five young children to death earlier this week before turning the gun on himself
* Before the shooting, the man faxed a letter to a local TV station expressing frustration over his firing
* The man and his wife had been fired one week before the shootings


YEP

Comments:
William
2009 01 28

As a parent of two, married for 16 years and person of faith. Personally I think that this action seems selfish on the part of the adults in the house. The adults had made choices which brought them to where they end up financially and emotionally. Regretful no doubt, nevertheless there are other options; death is not a solution for this kind of situation, easy for me to say right? but how we justify this tragedy.
Although this was a desperate and a thoughtless option taken. I can try to understand the level of desperation of the adults, but what about the children. What kind of love drives you to kill your own children, when there are people who would give up their own life for the one of their children. It is one of the main reason I do what I do, be responsible, manage our finances to live within our means, go without so my children can have, they are a reason I sacrifice whatever it takes to provide. Perhaps it is faulty world views people now consider as a way of life. God help us all, and may we receive His stretching hand.

Anonymous said...

Why Kill the Whole Family?
Wednesday, January 28, 2009

211,500 jobs have been lost this month ... but that's no reason to end it all.

Lupoe Family

Ervin Antonio Lupoe and his wife Ana lost their jobs two days ago, and today they're both dead, along with their five children. Yesterday morning, the LAPD walked into the the grizzly murder-suicide scene. Before Lupoe killed his whole family and took his own life, he called 911 to say he just got home and found the family dead and then faxed a letter to a local news station.

Ervin and Ana are former employees of Kaiser Permanente West Los Angeles Medical Center. In a letter Lupoe wrote to a local news agency, he said, "My wife felt it better to end our lives and why leave our children in someone else's hands."

How can a mom and dad be pushed to the point of killing their whole family? Rabbi Sherre Hirsch, author of "We Plan, God Laughs: Ten Steps to Finding Your Divine Path When Life is Not Turning Out Like You Wanted," says that sort of financial pressure and strain can sometimes feel like too much to bear.

"This is a wakeup call to how important it is to have those difficult conversations about finances," she says. "A lot of people have come to me for counseling who are greatly stressed by money. After all, money problems are the leading cause of divorce in this country. In an economic strain, people often lose perspective. They think something like foreclosure or losing a job is a life-or-death situation, when it doesn't have to be. That's why talking to someone else is crucial, to help you regain perspective."

If you can't bring yourself to talk to your spouse, Hirsch recommends starting out by talking to a counselor or clergy member, friend, or financial advisor. "This will help remind you that you're not alone," she says. "Millions of Americans are in the same boat you are. Even if you lose your house, you still have your family. Your husband and your kids -- that's home. In the end, that's all that really matters."

Why do you think these parents chose to end it all?

Anonymous said...

Hollern offer's hope to Bend? Dunc say's it's under his breath?

###

I don't get the double-standard.

Obama talks non-specific, hope, change, ...

Hollern speaks about 'hope' and its under the breath?

Why isn't Obama's? Oh, thats right he was running for election, using the ronny raygun playbook of 'keep it upbeat'.

Hollern knows this crash will outlast his remaining years. But it's good that the BULL still has access, and its good that HOLLERN still has something to say.

The best of HOLLERN was last year when he said "Bend is a town of non-real people, with non-real children, and non-real jobs".

It's about 'hopefully' all about to get very REAL around here.

Orygun has NEVER been a working mans town, and Bend has long been a playground of the rich. Too many people were suckered here to buy 2nd homes ( lifestyles of the rich ) on nothing down, they'll be leaving by the tens of thousands.

Once again, and I say about 2016 Bend will be a town of real people, real children, and real jobs. Until then expect bitching, moaning, and denial.

The rich will live in gated community's far from town, and the real-people close-in. Overtime the nouveau-riche will be bored of their isolated community's and lose millions but the real people care not. Soon nice little westside homes will sell for less than 4X income, and those who can find a the few jobs, will be fine, everyone else will have to move on.

Sure Mayor Eckman will jump&shout about growth, but note she'll not put a nickel of her hubby's money down. The over building of Bend was about the general taxpayer subsidizing the developer/builder/banker by billion's. Bend will file for bankrupcty, and not for a generation will anyone even think about borrowing taxpayer money to make builders rich.

The builders will quit owning city-hall, as there will be nothing left to steal, e.g. the ROI ( return on investment ) will not cover cost.

MrBruce said...

There is always hope, even in Bend.


### BEM's Prayer


What can Bend do now? Well, maybe we should put the question a little differently: what should people do when they're stuck in the middle of nowhere with no money? The answer is to protect their own interests, make their little corner of the world the best possible place to live, and band together to prevent outsiders from coming and taking their stuff. Because life's not going to get easier around here for a while.

1. RAISE TAXES. That's right. Bend needs money. For deferred infrastructure and maintenance, for police and other essential services, for schools, for public transit. Revenues are already down, but the big whammy's yet to come: reduced property tax assessments due to falling property values. Bend needs to resist the urge to cut taxes, and actually needs to increase revenue this year and going forward.
2. INCREASE FUNDING FOR ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND PARKS. Especially police. Bend needs to regain its reputation as a safe, relatively drug-free, violent crime-free town if it's going to keep residents and attract new ones. What's the point of living in a small town if you can get carjacked in the Costco parking lot, same as Compton? And parks too. There's no point in living in small-town Oregon if there's no place to push a stroller or walk a dog.
3. SUSPEND MASTER-PLANNED PROJECTS. Forget about Juniper Ridge. Forget about the Third Street Corridor. Pay off whoever's owed, terminate the consultants' contracts, stop buying new land, stop land grants, stop all city-funded development activity. No more Lava Court or whatever it's called. Keep the land for the future (a university, for example) or sell it to the private sector at market prices, with restrictions if necessary. Maybe in other cities, the local authorities have the vision and competence to carry out big-concept projects. Not in Bend.
4. CUT THE DESTINATION RESORTS LOOSE. No matter what they say in public, not one of these destination resort subdivisions around here is "penciling out" the way its sponsors thought it would. Soon the destination resorts will come calling to city and/or county and/or state governments asking for property tax breaks, regulatory exemptions and other goodies, and they should be told "NO." I'm not an anti-destination resort activist. Some say that their drain on services and infrastructure exceeds their economic benefit. But let's assume for sake of argument that they create jobs and are generally a net benefit to neighboring communities. It doesn't matter - they don't deserve a handout. They should be treated like any other business. Either destination resorts make economic sense or they don't. In a county where almost every business besides Trader Joe's is hunkering down for tough times, 5,000 homeless people are living in the woods, the desert, motels, vacant homes and the streets, and 19% of the population (including kids) has no health insurance, luxury golf course developments don't deserve any subsidies or breaks. And making them nicer does almost nothing to make Bend or other Central Oregon communities nicer.
5. LOBBY FOR A FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY. And don't let up! The best way to secure Bend's future is to get a 4-year university here. Natural resources is gone. Real estate is gone. But Bend is an excellent candidate for a 4-year school. OK, so far it hasn't worked out. But that's because these fool good-old-boy local business interests have been put front-and-center. Bad idea. Those guys' money should be welcome in the effort, but all these fat, white local artifacts should be kept safely out of sight when we're selling this area as a site for a new 4-year university. It might take another 5 or 10 years. It might take longer. But it makes sense. Bend would be a great college town. We just need the right people to plan our approach and the whole community needs to be on board, like what happened in Merced.

Anonymous said...

Today the Bend Bulletin ran a story about what Mike Hollern thought about when Bend would recover from the depression. He said "Hopefully in a few years".

Hollern who owns Brooks Resources, inherited much of Bend in 1964 and moved here as a young Stanford, CA, MBA, and built Black-Butte Ranch. He inherited what was once Brooks-Scanlon, all of Bend the original 'company town' once a logging mill-town, that had ran out of timber years earlier.

Hollern knows this crash will outlast his remaining years. But it's good that the BULL still has access, and its good that HOLLERN still has something to say.

The best of HOLLERN was last year when he said "Bend is a town of non-real people, with non-real children, and non-real jobs".

It's about 'hopefully' all about to get very REAL around here.

Orygun has NEVER been a working mans town, and Bend has long been a playground of the rich. Too many people were suckered here to buy 2nd homes ( lifestyles of the rich ) on nothing down, they'll be leaving by the tens of thousands.

Once again, and I say about 2016 Bend will be a town of real people, real children, and real jobs. Until then expect bitching, moaning, and denial.

The rich will live in gated community's far from town, and the real-people close-in. Overtime the nouveau-riche will be bored of their isolated community's and lose millions but the real people care not. Soon nice little westside homes will sell for less than 4X income, and those who can find a the few jobs, will be fine, everyone else will have to move on.

Sure Mayor Eckman will jump&shout about growth, but note she'll not put a nickel of her hubby's money down. The over building of Bend was about the general taxpayer subsidizing the developer/builder/banker by billion's. Bend will file for bankrupcty, and not for a generation will anyone even think about borrowing taxpayer money to make builders rich.

The builders will quit owning city-hall, as there will be nothing left to steal, e.g. the ROI ( return on investment ) will not cover cost.

Anonymous said...

Flame on boys.

Cascade at 5pm tonight!
role call

St Paddy in

*

Cascade is 6pm to 10pm for happy-hour on Wednesday, its 20oz pints for $2.50, food sucks. Thus make sure you eat before you go there.

Anonymous said...

So much for AIPAC shutting this blog down, the truth is reality is what shut this blog down.

Anonymous said...

I know BUSH is gone, bend gone, but him ( twisted-shrub, Bendbb, and HBM ) are still fucking the good things in life. Seems like the newbie alias of our own St-paddy aka Eliott Cocksucker of BENDBB is now in control of BEBB, and all its powers of persuasion.

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Bush War on Roquefort Raises a Stink in France
Departing Officials Set Duty at 300%

Ewes on 2,100 farms produce the milk used in Roquefort. They graze in a carefully defined oval area across the Larzac Plain and in nearby hills and valleys.
Ewes on 2,100 farms produce the milk used in Roquefort. They graze in a carefully defined oval area across the Larzac Plain and in nearby hills and valleys. (By Bob Edme -- Associated Press)

Bernard Roques checks on Roquefort maturing in a cellar in the village of the same name, where the economy is built around the product.
Bernard Roques checks on Roquefort maturing in a cellar in the village of the same name, where the economy is built around the product. (By Bob Edme -- Associated Press)

Workers like these at the Carles factory hope the Obama administration will prove more sympathetic to their plight.
Workers like these at the Carles factory hope the Obama administration will prove more sympathetic to their plight. (By Bob Edme -- Associated Pess)


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By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, January 29, 2009; Page A01

ROQUEFORT-SUR-SOULZON This seems an unlikely spot to fight a trade war.

A village of 600 souls in a remote part of southern France, Roquefort clings precariously to the side of Combalou Rock, a promontory overlooking a deep valley where sheep graze in the shadow of limestone cliffs that were sheared off by a seismic jolt in prehistoric times.

But the primal shake also carved out aerated underground crevasses that give a unique economic value to this jagged landscape about 65 miles northwest of Montpellier. They make possible a gastronomical wonder that has delighted gourmets for centuries: Roquefort cheese. And now, in an era of globalized competition for trade, the smelly delicacy and its little home town have become ground zero for the warriors of export-import in Washington.

The United States, it turns out, has declared war on Roquefort cheese.

In its final days, the Bush administration imposed a 300 percent duty on Roquefort, in effect closing off the U.S. market. Americans, it declared, will no longer get to taste the creamy concoction that, in its authentic, most glorious form, comes with an odor of wet sheep and veins of blue mold that go perfectly with rye bread and coarse red wine.

The measure, announced Jan. 13 by U.S. Trade Representative Susan C. Schwab as she headed out the door, was designed as retaliation for a European Union ban on imports of U.S. beef containing hormones. Tit for tat, and all perfectly legal under World Trade Organization rules, U.S. officials explained.

Besides, they said, Roquefort is only one of dozens of European luxury products that were attacked with high tariffs. The list includes, among other things, French truffles, Irish oatmeal, Italian sparkling water and "fatty livers of ducks and geese," which apparently is how Washington trade bureaucrats say foie gras.

But the cheese producers and sheep farmers around Roquefort do not see it that way. Only Roquefort got hit with such a high duty that it amounts to a ban, they complain. In their view, this unfairly undermines not only the economy of Roquefort, which depends entirely on cheese, but also the well-being of the 4,500 people who herd special ewes on 2,100 farms producing milk for Roquefort in a carefully defined oval grazing area across the Larzac Plain and up and down nearby hills and valleys.

"This measure is completely out of proportion," said Robert Glandières, a sheep farmer who heads the Regional Federation of Ewe Raisers' Unions. "It's a little bit of a provocation."

If so, it would not be the first provocation in the history of the Roquefort war. The United States first imposed unusual 100 percent tariffs on Roquefort in 1999, when the dispute with the European Union over hormoned-up beef first got nasty. In reaction, a local peasant rabble-rouser named José Bové rose up, decrying unnatural foods, industrial agriculture and disrespect for traditional ways. Even before he led a group in tearing up a local McDonald's, it was clear the United States was his main target.

Bové was convicted of a crime for his gesture. But many French people agreed with his sentiments, none more so than the people of the Roquefort region. For them, the preservation of culinary tradition is a way of life -- and a livelihood.

Several years later, then-President Jacques Chirac added to the irritation in Washington with his criticism of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. It was the time of "freedom fries" in the United States and of disdain for things French, including Roquefort.

Since then, President Nicolas Sarkozy has tried to put U.S.-French relations back on a more friendly footing. But Glandières said residual irritation may have been at work in the U.S. trade representative's office when the decision was made to triple the tax on Roquefort. He also acknowledged that the French government, with its own beef industry to promote, did nothing to help, having led the charge against U.S. beef in Europe.

Despite the ill feelings, Roquefort producers went out of their way to preserve a place in the U.S. market even after the 100 percent tax was imposed. Milk producers and cheesemakers alike took revenue cuts to keep prices down for U.S.-bound exports.

As a result, by some measures U.S. sales rose slightly despite the punitive duty. Glandières said frustration about that among U.S. officials might also have played a role in the new tariff rate. "From what we hear, the Americans couldn't stand to see Roquefort was still on the supermarket shelves in the United States," he said.

The proportion of Roquefort exported to the United States remained small, however, amounting last year to only 450 tons out of 19,000 produced and 3,700 in total exports. Spain, with purchases of 1,000 tons, was by far the largest foreign customer.

In any case, Glandières said, the days of attacks on McDonald's are over, and the only recourse now is diplomacy. A McDonald's sign beckons unmolested just outside the headquarters of Glandières' federation in Millau, the region's main town.

In that spirit, Agriculture Minister Michel Barnier recently called the tariff rate "unjustified" but said he hoped to open a new dialogue with the United States. A delegation of local elected officials went to the U.S. Embassy in Paris last week to present their case politely.

Underlying the hopes for improvement is an impression widely shared by people in France that President Obama's administration, free of baggage from the dispute over Iraq, will prove more sympathetic to France -- and in this case to the traditional cheesemakers of Roquefort. But Glandières noted that Obama has a lot to deal with. "I don't think Roquefort will be the first thing on his mind," he said.

Aside from the commercial dispute, however, Roquefort's cheese producers and sheep raisers have expressed wonder that their little town and its exquisite gastronomical tradition could get caught up in a 21st-century trade conflict that seems so distant from their pastoral lives. In some ways, their dilemma has become a symbol for many communities in France where globalization seems to intrude on long-cherished traditions.

Local legend says Roquefort got its start in Roman times when a young shepherd guarding his flock nearby happened on a beautiful girl. Smitten and determined to follow her, the youth stowed his knapsack, containing cheese and rye bread, in a little cave created by one of the crevasses that run through the hills of the region. On his return some time later, he found the bread had turned moldy and passed the spores to the cheese, which was veined with blue. Desperately hungry, he ate the cheese anyway -- and Roquefort cheese was born.

However Roquefort got its start, the people of this village have been making it for a long time. They were granted a monopoly on producing the cheese by King Charles VI in 1411. In 1666, the parliament in Toulouse granted Roquefort a "controlled designation of origin," which made it illegal for other communities to claim they were producing it. A decree from the prime minister in 2001 reviewed in excruciating detail how Roquefort must be produced to retain its distinction, including boundaries for the ewes' grazing grounds.

"There are conditions here that are natural and unique," said Martin Bonnet as he led a tour of the Papillon company's caves, honeycombed under Roquefort's main street.

Anonymous said...

The KUNT's of Bend do a good talk about the horrors of AIPAC, but GOD-DAMN, when the subject of family sewer-cide, its bend silent around here, what gives? Truth to close to home? This is problem with this rock.

BP wants everyone to suck dick in public, and even the most controversial subjects are BEND non-correct.

Anonymous said...

I love Bend, its such a healthy place to raise spawn that will grow up to become psychopathic killer like their parents.

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Anonymous said...

World bankers @davos, call Geithner a FUCKING IDIOT, this is the tax=cheat we had to take cuz nobody else could do the OREO BLOW-JOB, now we find out he's a fucking idiot??

Geithner's Wrong on the Yuan
The Treasury Secretary should focus on consumption in China.



By CALLA WIEMER | From today's Wall Street Journal Asia

China has taken a certain amount of heat from outgoing Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson for helping bring on the global financial crisis. But his newly sworn-in successor has just raised the temperature a notch. In written testimony to the Senate last week, Timothy Geithner invoked the dreaded "currency manipulator" label intimating that China is deliberately undervaluing the yuan. This is a heavily loaded term that the Bush administration for some years managed to dance around. Currency manipulation is prohibited under the International Monetary Fund Charter and can be taken as grounds for retaliatory trade sanctions.

The attention to the exchange rate is misplaced. A coherent story of global payments imbalances and the financial crisis can be told without recourse to charges of an undervalued yuan. Likewise, an agenda for getting out of the crisis and setting the global economy on a more balanced path does not depend on the yuan. The policy focus should be on stimulating consumption in China. The need for that predated the crisis but is now magnified by it.
[Review & Outlook]

Both China and the U.S. pursued macroeconomic policies from 2001 to 2007 that were successful in achieving high growth with low inflation. Just how successful in China's case is only revealed when real growth figures are derived, following standard international practice, by subtracting the inflation rate from the nominal growth rate. This approach shows that from a slowdown that bottomed out in 2000 with growth at just 2.3%, the pace soared to robust double digits and stayed there for seven years. The year 2001 was pivotal due to China's World Trade Organization entry, although the foundation for sustained growth had been laid in the late 1990s with state sector downsizing, housing privatization and liberalization of labor migration.

In a pattern typical of developing countries in their take-off phases, China's surging growth brought a rise in the national saving rate. What makes China's case stand out is that the saving rate started from an already high 38% in 2000. An inexorable climb from then onward elevated the rate to 51% in 2007. A litany of factors is routinely cited for why China's saving rate is high: the need to provide for one's own retirement; the need to self-insure against risks of illness, injury, or job loss; the need to meet children's education expenses; and the need to accumulate funds to support lumpy expenditures on consumer durables or business start-ups in the absence of credit markets that function to do so. But although these factors explain a high level of saving, they do not offer insight as to why the saving rate rose so dramatically during a time when, if anything, life became less precarious and the financial system became more functional.

A standard economic theory of saving -- Franco Modigliani's life cycle hypothesis -- explains the rise in saving. The hypothesis holds that current income is apportioned to consumption over a lifetime. This means, first, that any income growth above the norm will be disproportionately saved in the current period to be meted out for consumption purposes in future years. Since only those in their working years benefit from faster income growth, only this segment increases its consumption while those in retirement consume based on the lower income of an earlier time. The hypothesis implies, second, that a rising share of population in the workforce will also result in an increase in the saving rate. On both counts -- unusually rapid income growth and a demographic bulge moving into working ages -- China's rising saving rate is as the theory predicts. In other words, it has nothing to do with the exchange rate.

A rising saving rate has implications for China's external accounts. National saving that isn't used for domestic investment is invested abroad. To fund that capital outflow, exports must exceed imports. In China's case, a rise in saving was paralleled by a rise in domestic investment from 2000 to 2004, leaving the saving surplus and hence the trade surplus constant as a share of GDP at a modest 2.0-2.5%. In 2004, fearing the economy was overheating, the Chinese government clamped down on investment spending and the saving-investment gap began to widen. With investment held in check over the next few years against a continued increase in saving, the trade surplus boomed.

On the U.S. side, the capital inflow -- not just from China but from the developing world as a whole plus the oil exporting countries -- had an incipient deflationary impact. Upward pressure on the dollar from the demand for U.S. assets made U.S. goods less competitive, and without countervailing action this would have caused the economy to falter. Expansionary monetary policy kept that from happening, however, as the Greenspan Federal Reserve kept interest rates very low for a very long time. The liquidity boost from a credit expansion triggered by innovative new financial instruments also contributed. This combination fueled wealth gains that stimulated U.S. consumer demand and kept the economy going.

Both the U.S. and China thus enjoyed strong growth with low inflation for a nice, long stretch. The U.S. propagated this trend with low interest rates and financial innovation, while China propagated it with a stable exchange rate and ongoing reform of its economic system.

China is no different from most emerging market economies in adopting policies of foreign exchange market intervention, capital controls and interest rate regulation. It takes very sophisticated economic institutions to pull off liberalized foreign exchange and financial markets, and even then there are no guarantees of immunity against crisis. In the emerging market context, the exchange rate is an important macroeconomic policy lever. Currency appreciation reins in an economy that is overheating; depreciation stimulates an economy that is flagging. China's course of gradual yuan appreciation since 2005 proved effective in allowing the economy to grow at high speed while still keeping inflation in check.

China's growth, however, has relied too much on exports and not enough on domestic consumption -- a problem for long term, sustainable economic growth. The remedy is to direct fiscal spending toward consumption, in particular for health care and education where China is notably lacking. Given the sagging state of external demand, strong domestic stimulus can be exercised without danger of the overheating that might call for currency appreciation as an offset. The exchange rate, then, can stay where it is. A fiscal stimulus that succeeded in restoring consumption to the share of GDP witnessed as recently as 2003, given a maintained investment share at the 2004-07 level, would cause China's trade surplus to disappear.

Mr. Geithner, to his credit, emphasized in his written testimony the importance of consumption stimulus in China. He would do well to stick to that argument going forward and exclude further pronouncements on the exchange rate. Meanwhile, rising health care and education spending in China presents the prospect of greater demand for medical equipment and educational aids. This suggests the U.S. might do well to pursue a negotiating strategy focused on intellectual property rights and a freer market for ideas the better to exploit its comparative advantage -- instead of a trade war rooted in a wrong-headed assessment of the yuan.

Bewert said...

Fannie Mae Foreclosure Sale at 50 Cents on $1 Shows Price Reset

Jan. 28 (Bloomberg) -- With a sharp nod, Robert Parkin bids $500,000 at the auction of a brick colonial house in Upper Marlboro, Maryland, that the builder once valued at $1.1 million.

Seconds later, a competitor counters at $510,000, and Parkin must decide whether to raise his limit on the unfinished, 4,878- square-foot property with a stop-work order taped to the window.

This auction, 19 miles (30.6 kilometers) southeast of Washington, is one of hundreds a day carried out on front lawns and in hotel ballrooms nationwide by liquidators such as Williams & Williams Marketing Services Inc. of Tulsa, Oklahoma. With 2.3 million residences in foreclosure, the sales are pushing down prices to early 2004 levels in the hunt for new buyers.

“If you’re looking for expediency to get people back in homes, un-board neighborhoods, clean up the rats, this is it,” says Pamela McKissick, 62, the president of closely held Williams & Williams. Banks, brokerages and government-sponsored mortgage finance companies such as Fannie Mae hire the company to sell houses one at a time or to liquidate entire portfolios.

Auctions are resetting real estate values at the neighborhood level, while President Barack Obama tries to find a way to limit foreclosures and revitalize the worst housing market since the Great Depression. Bargain hunters such as Parkin, a 50- year-old aerospace engineer who is shopping for a personal residence, and mom-and-pop investors on the prowl for rental properties, aren’t waiting for federal aid.

They are buying foreclosed properties for as little as 10 cents on the dollar. Lenders seized 9,787 houses a day in December, or almost seven a minute. Even after the 26 percent drop in residential prices since June 2007, there are enough unsold homes to last 9.3 months at the current sales rate....

On Bloomie

Anonymous said...

"The KUNT's of Bend do a good talk about the horrors of AIPAC, but GOD-DAMN, when the subject of family sewer-cide, its bend silent around here, what gives? Truth to close to home? This is problem with this rock."

What are you talking about? There are several posts about the LA suicides. They didn't even happen in Oregon. Why are we supposed to be talking about LA suicides again?

Anonymous said...

AIPAC & Suicide are verboten on BB2.

Anonymous said...

Note: My blog posts are filled with sarcasm and are meant to be humorous. They are intended to make people think, create discussion, and hopefully give you a laugh. If you are offended, you either don't have a sense of humor, don't get my sarcasm or you are a liberal and I really am making fun of you.

Anonymous said...

Now a few famous words from our most famous PUG sponsors of BB2.

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20. The implication that there was something wrong with the war plan is amusing." --Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, on criticism of his management of the Iraq war

19. If you’ve seen one city slum, you’ve seen them all.-- Spiro Agnew

18. A good many things creep around in the dark besides Santa Claus.--" Herbert Hoover, US President

17."I like the color red because it's a fire. And I see myself as always being on fire." --California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

16. Capital punishment is our way of demonstrating the sanctity of life."-- Orrin Hatch

15. It’s like the neighborhood I would have grown up in, I think, if I had have grown up here." --Alan Keyes, on the Chicago neighborhood he chose to rent in after moving to the state to run for the U.S. Senate

14. If you think the United States has stood still, who would have built the largest shopping center in the world?-- Richard M. Nixon

13. It may come as a shock to you who live out in the real world, but occasionally we do something up here. Not often, I admit, but sometimes. For example, I think the House has passed National Peach Month so far this year and we expect to act on it soon." --Senate Majority Leader (and Presidential candidate) Robert Dole of Kansas in 1982

12."If Lincoln were alive today, he'd be turning over in his grave.—Gerald Ford (on Nixon and Watergate)

11.The Democrats just want to ram it down my ear with a victory---George Herbert Walker Bush

10. Any lady who is first lady likes being first lady. They may say they don’t like but from my experience I know they like it.-- Richard Nixon

9. Isn't that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?" --Sen. Rick Santorum

8.These are not bad people. All they are concerned about is to see that their sweet little girls are not required to sit in school alongside some big overgrown Negroes. President Eisenhower commenting on racial segregationalists after the Brown vs. Board of Ed decision.

7. "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three nonfatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable, and we're going to do something about it" --President George W. Bush

6. The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But I didn't live in this century." Vice President Dan Quayle

5. "President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale."--Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, testifying before Congress
(Quick! Somebody phone Al Gonzalez and tell him there were no phones or electricity during the Washington and Lincoln administrations)

4. I feel the best way to ensure Americans' freedom is to tighten restrictions on that freedom in any way possible. Only through wiretaps, illegal searches and seizures, unfettered government intrusion, a controlled media and a complete crackdown on free speech can we ensure the liberties of all people." -- Attorney General John Ashcroft

3. I think gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman" -- Arnold Schwarzenegger

2. "What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is."- Vice President Dan Quayle

1. Hmmm, uhh, hah -- ummm -- I, the answer is -- I haven't really thought of it that way, heh, heh. Heh. Here's how I think of it. Ummm -- heh heh. First I've heard of that, by the way, I, ah -- uhh -- the, uhh -- I, I guess I'm more of a practical fella. Uhh. I vowed after September the 11th that I would do everything I could to protect the American people. And, uhh -- my attitude, of course, was affected by the attacks.ha ha ...ummm Let me see... I knew we were at a war. I knew that the enemy, obviously, had to be sophisticated, and lethal, to fly hijacked airplanes, uhh, into -- facilities that would, we would, killing thousands of people, innocent people, doin' nothing, just sittin' there goin' to work."--President George W Bush, after being asked if the war in Iraq and the rise of terrorism are signs of the apocalypse

Anonymous said...

They are buying foreclosed properties for as little as 10 cents on the dollar.

*

Yeh, in Detroit.


Hell if they were selling homes in Bend for ten cents the dollar, even I would go to one of those fucking Tower auctions, but so far they're all min-bid.

Nobody in Bend is yet serious about selling anything.

Last night I was reading the Cascade Business News by Hulse, and its so fucking 'positive' every page is 'bend is good', this is still the best place, the recovery has already started, ...

All the pic's of people at B-Top partying drunk with wine this new-year, the owner's BT-Club, ... lots of pic's, pic's of the people's wives who we always talk about, that new bank we talked about yesterday, the faux prez they got, he's got a hot wife, its all on the back page of CBN, get a copy. They're Free. What is most strange is the last is Hulses little trailer that she has been trying to sell for 2+ years now. Quite cute, and it includes a pic of Hulse in her younger years.

What is most striking of this newspaper is they relish ALL the money being spent on Juniper Ridge, and Knife-River, every page, every picture is who is getting the money, and the all the awards that KR is getting for making the best roads. Sort of funny when you think that here is a 'capitalist rag' and yet every fucking project is fed by local government taxes. Nobody in BEND uses their money for anything, its all about OPM, other peoples money, and they don't even have to beg they just take it.

I still say this year could be the end of the borrowing, as a percentage of money, I don't think Bend will see much of the OBAMA 'stimulus'.

The point is, as we have known for all along post 2006 all money, and all projects, and all work in BEND has been fed by city borrowing. Throwing away $200M to keep the 'beautiful companys' busy.

It's going to end, it could have ended earlier without the fucking debt albatross around the taxpayer necks.

HBM says its not real money, tell that the to the budget, unless we file BK, all our revenue is going be paying off the debt.

Anonymous said...

So where do we stand on this now, is Suterra a great company or what??

Anonymous said...

>>>is Suterra a great company or what??


I'm not going to say great but I know a couple people that work there and they say it it's a good place to work. Good pay by Bend standards and decent benefits.

Anonymous said...

The US Postal Service may be forced to eliminate a day of mail service because the economic downturn has led to plummeting volume and revenue, the postmaster general said ...

It won't break my heart not to get any junk mail, bills and catalogs on Saturday.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile Cessna jettisons another 120.

Bewert said...

More money out the door:

Bend City Council
September 7, 2005 Council Meeting

Issue Summary
Department: Economic Development
Staff Member: Eric Grindy/John Russell

Purchase and Sale Agreement for Purchase of Bend
Bulletin Site


Background: The City Council was presented with an offer to purchase the former Bend Bulletin site by Todd Taylor and Jeff Pickhardt representing Taylor Brothers LLC, for a future City Hall site. Subsequently, the Council directed staff to prepare and solicit Requests for Ideas to the public to determine if there were other properties that would be viable alternatives for a new City Hall site. Four ideas were presented to City Council, including the Bend Bulletin site, as well as two alternatives for re-development of the current City Hall site and adjacent land, as well as a site owned by Deschutes County.

City Council has recognized that the Bulletin site is a viable option for a future City Hall, and has directed staff to enter into negotiations for the purchase of the property.

Discussion of the Issue: Staff has negotiated a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the Bulletin Site, including the following details.

Purchase Price: $4,681,000 *
Earnest Money: $50,000 promissory note, convertible to non-refundable cash following removal City removal of contingencies to the purchase no later than 10-7-05.
Contingencies:
•Acceptance of this Purchase and Sale Agreement 9-7-05.
•Approval of Budget Appropriations 9-7-05.
•Approval of Bond sale for financing purchase 9-21-05.
•Inspection of the property and satisfaction of City’s intended
use of the property 10-7-05.
•Close on purchase no later than 10-21-05.

* price reduced $30,000 from asking price for previously vacated ROW that is a part of the property.

Note: The attached Purchase and Sale Agreement includes all terms of the agreement to be executed, EXCEPT one additional modification addressing the allocation of SDC credits to Buyer and Seller. The final version will be distributed to Council prior to the Council meeting 9-7-05.


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City of Bend
ISSUE SUMMARY
MEETING DATE: April 16, 2008

SUBJECT: Sale of City of Bend Property-
Old Bend Bulletin Site

STAFF MEMBER: Jeff Datwyler
DEPARTMENT: Economic Development

BACKGROUND:

At the Council meeting of March 5th, 2008 staff presented three potential options for the disposition of the subject property. Option 2 - Modified bid - was the process staff was directed to pursue with additional information on valuation for a minimum bid price, input from the Central Area Plan Committee (CAPC) on conditions for redevelopment, and a schedule for this bid process to follow...


Staff believes the value of the property remains in excess of $5 million. The property was purchased in October 2005 at a total cost of $4,771,400 (purchase price plus closing costs and bond issue costs). Bonds were issued to pay for the property and interest on the bonds total $162,500 per year.

Since the purchase of the property in 2005, property prices have increased substantially with the run up of the market, and most likely have decreased with the last year’s events in the financial markets. Commercial property has not suffered as much as the residential market regionally or nationally, but tighter lending might have an effect on the number of potential buyers, therefore driving the price lower than it would otherwise earn. Staff recommends a minimum bid price of $5.5 million dollars. ...


The breakeven price as of 6/30/08 is $5.25 million to pay off the outstanding loan, recover interest paid since 2005 and closing costs. The breakeven price increases by approximately $90,000 to $100,000 every 6 months because of additional interest cost on the loan and the time value of money.

Date of Sale Breakeven Price
06/30/08 $5.25M
12/31/08 $5.35M
06/30/09 $5.44M
12/31/09 $5.54M

If the property is not sold by 12/31/09, the minimum bid price of $5.5 million would not be sufficient to recover costs.

(Note: The breakeven price does not include commissions which could total $100,000 or more should the City have to pay a broker representing the purchaser to sell the property. Other holding costs such as insurance, maintenance etc have been minimal and are not included in the breakeven price. The City does not pay property taxes for the site.)

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And do you think it actually sold?

NOT.

Anonymous said...

Starting to see some truly discounted prices, but ONLY when they're already bank owned:

$229500 / 4br - STEAL! 2826sq/ft, 4bed/3.5bath, Immaculate Condition, Bank owned (Bend)

http://bend.craigslist.org/reb/1012155556.html

Anonymous said...

>Starting to see some truly discounted prices, but ONLY when they're already bank owned:

Have you driven through that neighborhood? I did last summer out of curiosity. The construction quality was amazingly bad. There were houses that had yet to be lived in where the trim boards around the garage door were peeling a couple inches away.

That's probably in one of the worst neighborhoods in Bend. It isn't a steal.

Anonymous said...

tis a beauty in the best part of Bend tis, what's this $80-sq-ft, and look at the photos!! ON a whopping 3500 sq-ft lot, you get 700 sq-ft of concrete & grass for free!!!! whoopeee I died and moved to Bend.

Reach out from your window and touch your niehgbors wife!!! only in Bend.

...

$229500 / 4br - STEAL! 2826sq/ft, 4bed/3.5bath, Immaculate Condition, Bank owned (Bend)
Reply to: fanderson@bendcable.com [?]
Date: 2009-01-28, 10:27PM PST


Wonderful large home in Gardenside. 4 bedrooms, 3.5 baths, beautiful open living spaces, gas fireplace, granite countertops, plus more. Large yard with alley access to garage.

Call or email for more information.

Fred Anderson, Licensed Broker in Oregon
Keller Williams Central Oregon Realty
541-788-7355 Cell
Fanderson@bendcable.com

Anonymous said...

... Staff recommends a minimum bid price of $5.5 million dollars. ...


Staff recommends that the city get into maximum debt, and transfer as much cash as it can as quick as it can to the boss-hogg's.

HBM of the SORE will tell the people its not real money or real debt, we're covered.

Anonymous said...

Well it didn't take long, HBM pussy at large has shut-down posting @ his sore-eye blog on the subject of BEND's BK, I know he'll blame Aaron, but its HBM's blog.

Once the point HBM?

Anonymous said...

I'm not going to say great but I know a couple people that work there and they say it it's a good place to work. Good pay by Bend standards and decent benefits.

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The Nazi gas factorys that made tires and pesticides ( Zyklon-B ) were great places to work.

Heil Hitler, Bend is #1, fuck the rest of the world.

MrBruce said...

During WWII Zyklon-B was manufactured by IG-Farben ( Bush partner ), remote German towns manufactured the pesticides, in great places to live and raise a family. After the WWII employees failed to understand why the owners and managers were tried and executed.

The road to hell is full of great places to work. Often those who built and provided the worst weapons ate the best food, and lived in the best housing during war production years.

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Production

Zyklon B was manufactured by the German companies DEGESCH (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung mbH, or German Corporation for Pest Control) and TESTA (Tesch und Stabenow, Internationale Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung m.b.H.), under license from patentholder IG Farben. The Nazis ordered DEGESCH to produce Zyklon B without the warning odorant, in breach of German law. After the war, two directors of TESTA were tried by a British military court and were executed for their part in supplying the chemical.

DEGESCH played a key role in the manufacturing of Zyklon B in World War II. Many German companies had a stake in DEGESCH, but all eventually sold their shares to the chemical giant Degussa (now known as Evonik) in the early 1920s. Degussa developed the process to manufacture Zyklon B in "crystals" (actually silica gel absorbent chunks), as it was used during World War II. To raise capital, Degussa split its controlling interest of DEGESCH with IG Farben in 1930: both companies held a 42.5% share in DEGESCH, with the remaining 15% held by the Th. Goldschmidt AG of Essen.

DEGESCH's role at this point was limited to acquiring patents and intellectual property: it did not itself produce Zyklon B. The manufacture of Zyklon B was handled by the Dessauer Werke für Zucker and Chemische Werke, which acquired the stabilizer from IG Farben, the warning agent from Schering AG and the prussic acid from Dessauer Schlempe and assembled them into the final product. This company extracted prussic acid from the waste products of the sugar beet refining process. From 1943 to 1945, the Kaliwerke, from the Czech town of Kolin, also supplied prussic acid to the Dessauer Werke. When Zyklon B became used in the gas chambers, the Nazis ordered the warning agent removed.

Upon production, Zyklon B was sold by DEGESCH to Degussa. To cut costs, Degussa sold the marketing rights of Zyklon B to two intermediaries: the Heerdt and Linger GmbH (Heli) and Tesch and Stabenow (Tesch und Stabenow, Internationale Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung m.b.H., or TESTA) of Hamburg. Both suppliers split their territory along the Elbe river, with Heli handling the clients to the west and TESTA doing the same in the east.

Zyklon B is still in production in the Czech Republic in the factory Draslovka Kolín a.s. in the city Kolín under the tradename Uragan D2, sold for eradicating insects and small animals.[1]

[edit] Use on humans
A Soviet soldier posed at Majdanek, holding the cover of the vents through which Zyklon B was poured. London press, October 1944.

From 1929 onwards the U.S. used Zyklon B to disinfect the freight trains and clothes of Mexican immigrants entering the US.[2] Farm Securities Administration photographer Marion Post Wolcott recorded the use of cyanide gas and zyklon by the Public Health Service at the New Orleans Quarantine Station during the 1930s.[3]

tim said...

Confirmation of thesis: Golf Has Gone To Hell.

http://macroaxis.com/blog/2009/01/29/fortune-brands-sees-golf-sales-slump/

Anonymous said...

Confirmation of FECES, CACB has gone to hell.

Cascade Bancorp (Oregon) Announces Significant Loan Loss Provision for the
Fourth Quarter Resulting in a Net Loss of ($0.76) per Share for the Full Year 2008 and ($0.86) per Share for the Fourth Quarter. The Company Remains 'Well- Capitalized' at 10.70% Risked Based Capital Ratio Despite the Challenging Economic Environment * Full Year 2008 Net Loss Per Share: at ($0.76) per share or ($21.2) million compared to earnings of $1.05 per share and $30.0 million net income in 2007. * Fourth Quarter 2008 Net Loss Per Share: at ($0.86) per share or ($24.2) million compared to earnings of $0.01 per share and $0.3 million net income, respectively for the year ago quarter. * Capital Ratio: exceeds "well capitalized" regulatory designation at 10.70% risk based capital. * Fourth Quarter Provision for Loan Losses: at $46.5 million with net charge-offs of $41.1 million; year-end reserve for credit losses at $56.2 million or 2.84% of total loans. * Total Loans: down 3.1% year-over-year and down 3.4% on a linked-quarter basis. * Total Deposits: up 7.6% year-over-year, and up 2.1% on a linked-quarter basis. * Net Interest Margin: at 4.09% (4.42% as adjusted for interest reversals) compared to 4.42% linked quarter. * Cash Dividend: Board of Directors omit dividend for current quarter; was $.01 in prior quarter

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Cascade Bancorp ("Cascade") (Nasdaq: CACB - News) reported 2008 full year Net Loss of ($0.76) per share or ($21.2 million) compared to net income of $1.05 per share and $30.0 million in 2007. The Company recorded a $46.5 million (pre-tax) provision for credit losses for the fourth quarter of 2008 bringing the full year 2008 provision to $84.8 million versus $19.4 million in 2007. The provision was largely related to valuation adjustments on real estate collateral underpinning certain non-performing residential land development and construction loans, necessitating $41.1 million in charge-offs to write down such properties to estimated fair market value. Also, as a result of the increased loan loss provision the Company's reserve for credit losses rose to approximately $56.2 million or 2.84% of gross loans at December 31, 2008. Despite the significant provision and net loss, the Company's capital exceeds the "well capitalized" regulatory designation at 10.70% total risk based capital.

Commenting on the Company's results, Patricia L. Moss, CEO said "The severity of the economic downturn has continued to impact and challenge communities, businesses and individuals across our country. Focusing on that which we can control and effect, management at Bank of the Cascades is working diligently to respond to adversity by aggressively identifying and addressing current challenges. These circumstances have necessitated our recording a large loan loss provision in order to account for writes-downs on collateral underlying challenged loans, as well as to build our reserve for loan losses. I am appreciative of our established financial strengths and gratified that we are able to take these actions and remain 'well-capitalized' by all regulatory benchmarks. Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. At the same time we are working diligently to assess and mitigate credit quality risk in our other portfolios and to minimize the impact where possible."

CASH DIVIDEND:

In view of the present adverse and uncertain economic conditions and consistent with the Company's dividend policy wherein quarterly cash dividends are to be paid from current earnings, the Board of Directors accordingly has decided to omit the quarterly cash dividend at this time. The cash dividend in the prior quarter was $.01 per share. Said Moss, "Omitting our cash dividend is an appropriate action consistent with our prudent dividend policy. For over thirty years, Bank of the Cascades has been honored to be an integral part of the economic prosperity of the markets we serve. As we navigate through this downturn, Cascade bankers are focused on the financial safety and success of our customers. We pledge to continue our tireless effort and dedication to manage through these difficult times to the benefit of our customers, our communities, and ultimately the loyal shareholders of the Company."

LOAN PORTFOLIO AND CREDIT QUALITY:

At December 31, 2008, Cascade's Loan Portfolio was $1.98 billion, down 3.1% as compared to a year-ago and down 3.4% on a linked-quarter basis. Management believes that overall loan growth will likely remain muted until such time as the economic downturn runs its course. The Bank's residential development loans continue to be the most negatively effected by the downturn including several relatively large credits in both Idaho and Central Oregon being classified as non performing during the fourth quarter, necessitating write-downs to estimated fair value and prompting the significant provision and charge-offs discussed above.

At December 31, 2008, loans delinquent >30 days were at 0.33% of total loans compared to 0.21% for the linked-quarter and 0.47% at year-end 2007. This compares favorably to peer banks whose average delinquency rates were 0.89% at prior quarter end. At December 31, 2008 the delinquency rate in our commercial real estate (CRE) portfolio was just 0.40%. CRE loans represent the largest portion of Cascade's portfolio at 36% of total loans. Delinquencies in our commercial loan portfolio were just 0.36%; this portfolio represents 30% of total loans. These statistics are one indication that most of the Company's total loans are performing well despite the economic conditions.

Non-performing loans (NPL's) increased to $140.7 million in the fourth quarter of 2008 mainly due to several large residential development project loans where the Bank determined that, more likely than not, certain borrowers would be unable to repay principal and interest according to the contractual terms of their loans. Upon such determination the Bank promptly charges down the balance of such loans to estimated fair value. NPL's represented 5.9% of total assets at December 31, 2008 and compares with 4.5% for prior quarter and 1.9% a year ago. Net loan charge-offs for the quarter were $41.1 million arising mainly from deteriorating market prices for collateral dependent non- performing loans. This compares with $8.2 million in net charge-offs in the prior quarter and $6.5 million for the year ago quarter.

Other Real Estate Owned (OREO) represents real estate loan collateral now owned by the Bank which is carried at approximate estimated fair value of $53.5 million at December 31, 2008 as compared to $37.2 million in the prior quarter. The OREO balance is net of a fourth quarter 2008 OREO valuation charge of $4.2 million that is accounted for as non-interest expense (see below). OREO is largely residential development or construction related properties. Note that this amount excludes a $13.8 million performing OREO commercial building because tenant revenues exceed the interest income previously received on the underlying loan.

Non-performing assets (NPA's) include NPL's plus non-performing OREO properties as discussed above. NPA's total $180.4 million or 7.6% of total assets compared to $109.1 million or 4.5% of total assets for the linked- quarter. The Company carries NPA's at the estimated fair value; however, because of the uncertain real estate market, forward assurances cannot be given as to the timing of ultimate disposition of such assets or that selling price will be at or above carrying fair value. The orderly resolution of non- performing loans and OREO properties is a priority for management. See the accompanying table for distribution of loans and NPA's by region and loan type.

At December 31, 2008 the total reserve for credit losses was $56.2 million or 2.84% of total loans. Management believes the reserve for credit losses is at an appropriate level based on evaluation and analysis of portfolio credit quality in conjunction with prevailing economic conditions and estimated fair values of collateral supporting non performing loans. With uncertainty as to the depth and duration of the real estate slowdown and its economic effect on the communities within Cascades' banking markets, forward assurances cannot be given that the reserve will be adequate in future periods or that the level of NPA's will subside. Further provisioning and charge-offs may be required before values stabilize.

DEPOSITS:

Customer Relationship Deposits(1) increased slightly during the fourth quarter to $1.4 billion or 1.4% at December 31, 2008, as compared to the linked-quarter and is down 8.7% when compared to a year-ago. The year-over- year decline is predominately a result of the economic downturn's direct negative effect on retail and business customer cash available to deposit in their bank. Consistent efforts to retain and serve customers have proven successful with total customer numbers remaining consistent. To provide additional customer assurances, the Company has chosen to participate in the FDIC's temporary 100% guarantee of non-interest bearing checking accounts, including NOW accounts paying less than 0.50%. Additionally, under recent changes from the FDIC, all interest bearing deposit accounts are insured up to $250,000 through 12/31/2009. Total Deposits were $1.8 billion at December 30, 2008, up 7.6% compared to a year-ago and up 2.1% on a linked-quarter basis as the bank accessed the brokered time deposit market to augment aggregate deposits. Note that Cascade's proportion of more expensive time deposits to total deposits continues to remain well below its peer banks because of its focus on relationship deposits.

NET INTEREST MARGIN & INTEREST RATE RISK:

The Net Interest Margin (NIM) for the fourth quarter was 4.09%. However, excluding the effect of interest reversed on loans placed into non-performing status during the current quarter, the NIM as adjusted was 4.42%, comparable to the linked-quarter. The overall cost of funds was at 1.71% for the fourth quarter of 2008, down from 1.90% from the prior quarter. Yields on earning assets during the fourth quarter of 2008 were 5.77% compared to 6.28% in the linked-quarter and down from 7.86% in the year ago quarter. The year-over- year and linked-quarter decline in yields were mainly a result of declining market rates as well as the effect of interest forgone and reversed on non- performing loans. The average rate paid on interest bearing liabilities was 2.10% for the current quarter down 2.35% for the linked-quarter and is below the 3.84% for the year ago quarter due to declining rate environment.

Because one of Cascade's strengths is its relatively high proportion of non-interest bearing deposits, lower market interest rates tend to compress the Company's NIM as yields decline against an already low cost of funds. This effect should reverse once the economy rebounds. See cautionary "Forward Looking Statements" below and in Cascade's Form 10-K report for further information on risk factors including interest rate risk.

NON-INTEREST INCOME AND EXPENSE:

Non-Interest Income for the fourth quarter of 2008 was $3.7 million compared to the year-ago quarter of $5.1 million and $5.5 million for the linked-quarter. The linked-quarter non-interest income benefited from a non- recurring gain on sale of securities which accounts for about half of the period-to-period decline. In addition, the fourth quarter includes a $0.7 million fair value adjustment of investments underlying bank owned life insurance policies whose prices have been adversely impacted by the uncertain state of national credit markets (see next paragraph). Bank service and other fee income categories were generally flat.

Cascade's residential mortgage origination volume was down 45.3% from the year-ago period at $20.1 million for the quarter, and compares to the linked quarter volume of $21.3 million. Lower originations caused net mortgage related revenues to decline to $0.3 million in the last two quarters, or about half the $0.6 million recorded for the year-ago period. Note that the Company has focused on originating appropriately underwritten conventional mortgage products throughout its history while purposefully avoiding sub-prime / option-ARM type products. As a result, the delinquency rate within Cascade's $512 million portfolio of serviced residential mortgage loans is only 1.10% at December 31, 2008, significantly below the national mortgage delinquency rate of 6.99% at September 30, 2008. The fair value of servicing portfolio is estimated to exceed book value by amounts ranging from $0.5 million to $1.4 million. Mortgage refinance activity at Bank of the Cascades is up meaningfully in early 2009 in response to lower mortgage rates in concert with FRB and Treasury efforts to unfreeze mortgage markets.

Largely because of OREO valuation write-downs totaling $4.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2008, Non-Interest Expense (NIE) increased 24.0% compared to the prior year period and 42.2% on a linked-quarter basis. The as adjusted run rate for normalized non-interest expense during the fourth quarter 2008 was up modestly from the linked-quarter at approximately $16.1 million (see table below). Note that in context of the reported annual loss, the Company has made the decision to pay no 2008 bonuses. In addition, the Company has announced that there will be no executive salary increases effective in 2009.

Anonymous said...

Non-performing loans (NPL's) increased to $140.7 million in the fourth quarter of 2008 mainly due to several large residential development project loans where the Bank determined that, more likely than not, certain borrowers would be unable to repay principal and interest according to the contractual terms of their loans. Upon such determination the Bank promptly charges down the balance of such loans to estimated fair value. NPL's represented 5.9% of total assets at December 31, 2008 and compares with 4.5% for prior quarter and 1.9% a year ago. Net loan charge-offs for the quarter were $41.1 million arising mainly from deteriorating market prices for collateral dependent non- performing loans. This compares with $8.2 million in net charge-offs in the prior quarter and $6.5 million for the year ago quarter.

Anonymous said...

NPL's, NPA's and of alll things inn BEND we have OREO's

Bend is better, the city has NPD's, non performing debt, $200M, but don't worry HBM says it was never real money, ergo we don't have to pay it back, yeh right ...

...

Other Real Estate Owned (OREO) represents real estate loan collateral now owned by the Bank which is carried at approximate estimated fair value of $53.5 million at December 31, 2008 as compared to $37.2 million in the prior quarter. The OREO balance is net of a fourth quarter 2008 OREO valuation charge of $4.2 million that is accounted for as non-interest expense (see below). OREO is largely residential development or construction related properties. Note that this amount excludes a $13.8 million performing OREO commercial building because tenant revenues exceed the interest income previously received on the underlying loan.

Non-performing assets (NPA's) include NPL's plus non-performing OREO properties as discussed above. NPA's total $180.4 million or 7.6% of total assets compared to $109.1 million or 4.5% of total assets for the linked- quarter. The Company carries NPA's at the estimated fair value; however, because of the uncertain real estate market, forward assurances cannot be given as to the timing of ultimate disposition of such assets or that selling price will be at or above carrying fair value. The orderly resolution of non- performing loans and OREO properties is a priority for management. See the accompanying table for distribution of loans and NPA's by region and loan type.

Anonymous said...

The Company carries NPA's at the estimated fair value; however, because of the uncertain real estate market, forward assurances cannot be given as to the timing of ultimate disposition of such assets or that selling price will be at or above carrying fair value.

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Scary fucking SHIT, what's the total value of the fucking company?

This is figure is about equal to BEND's debt, which is not real money, as we all got bit-tits, big-dicks, and a good party for the money, we got something to show for it, ...

HBM is going to have to tell us if this is real money? Real Assets? Real OREO's??

Anonymous said...

CACB

Mkt Cap: 105.89M

Total Assets 2,404.41 2,394.49 2,249.31
Total Liabilities 2,131.50 2,119.21 1,988.24
Total Equity 272.90 275.29 261.08

The assets are worth less than they're suggesting, the loans are worse than they're suggesting.

About $3.50 today, best time in 20 years to buy CACB.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Cessna lays off another 120 Bend factory workers

Posted: Jan 29, 2009 09:36 AM

Part of 4,000 new layoffs companywide - double earlier estimate

By Barney Lerten, KTVZ.COM

Cessna Aircraft Co. announced Wednesday it is laying off another 120 workers at its Bend plane-making factory due to slumping sales, just as 165 other employees who got pink slips late last year are wrapping up their last week of work at the Bend Airport facility.

The layoffs, effective in 60 days, will leave just under 200 workers making planes at the Bend factory, which Cessna bought from bankrupt Columbia Aircraft in late 2007. Nevertheless, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver told KTVZ.COM the firm remains committed to the Bend facility and the line of planes built here.

Cessna, the world's largest small plane-maker, announced Wednesday that it is laying off 4,000 workers at all of its facilities - double the number it had predicted just a few weeks ago, as the economic situation has worsened and plane orders dropped.

The earlier layoffs in Bend, along with 500 who lost jobs at the company's Wichita, Kansas headquarters, bring Cessna's total 2009 layoffs to about 4,600. While all Cessna facilities are losing workers, the vast majority of the latest layoffs - 3,500 - also are at facilities in Wichita, Oliver said.

All of the Bend plant's workers got two letters Thursday - one from Cessna Chairman and CEO Jack Pelton, and another saying "you either are or you aren't" staying, Oliver said. Some apparently got the layoff letter a day or two early, and there were rumors of even higher Bend layoffs in this second round than the "about 120" that Oliver said were handed out.

"I wish today I could report good news," Pelton wrote to employees. "Unfortunately, it is not getting better. We all know the global economy is in crisis and the challenges we face are unprecedented in recent memory."

He announced just one facility closure, of the Citation service center in Toledo, Ohio, due to "reduced workload."

Oliver said the larger number of layoffs is in part to avoid a situation in 2002-03, the last industry downturn, when Cessna did four or five smaller rounds of layoffs, a string that was "disruptive to demand and productivity."

"We think right now, with current conditions, this is the right staffing level for the planes we'll build this year," Oliver said.

In most cases, Pelton said, the layoffs are effective March 31. And while Oliver said no more layoffs are predicted this year, Pelton wrote, "It will also be necessary or us to conduct furloughs beginning in March. That analysis continues and we will communicate details as we finalize that plan."

"These numbers are profound, especially when you look beyond the numbers to the Cessna families that are affected," Pelton said. "It's extremely painful for all of us to lose so many of our colleagues and friends. Making this decision is difficult for your leadership team and me personally." But he added, "These actions are necessary to secure our future."

"This continues to be a trying time for all Cessnans, and the depth of the reduction here is the last thing anyone expected even three months ago," the CEO wrote, telling those who remain, "Your ability to focus on your job is going to be severely tested, but critical to the long-term health of our company."

Oliver said the decision on how many people to cut where is based on orders coming in: "We go through the order book, say how many planes can we confidently build of each model, how many man-hours does it take to build an airplane and divide that by the number of people.

The Cessna spokesman tried to dispel persistent rumors that the Bend plant will close and its jobs move to Kansas.

"We're very committed, always have been committed to this product line and to Bend," Oliver said. "As long as we sell airplanes, production is going to stay there."

Oliver also disputed claims that plane-making jobs are shifting to the company's Mexico facility. He said "repetitive work" on elements such as wiring harnesses is done there, but plane-making facilities are and will remain in the U.S.

A key to the Cessna planes built in Bend is to continue pursuing European certification, which Oliver said would be a big boost to its potential market share. Also crucial to the small-plane business, he said, is efforts to get Congress to renew a "bonus depreciation" that provided a faster depreciation schedule for tax purposes and an added incentive to buy; the previous such rule expired in December, after being in place two years.

Meanwhile, Oliver said the company is "busting our ass across the product line" to sell planes, offering incentives both to prospective buyers and for dealers to sell planes.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


The Cessna spokesman tried to dispel persistent rumors that the Bend plant will close and its jobs move to Kansas.


Yeah, right. This isone of the most bizarre pieces of their portfolio, a factory in the middle of nowhere, in the most overpriced town in the US.

That plant is SO CLOSED.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Bend is a crazy place to locate a factory.

And when a factory gets small enough, what's the point of it? "Right-sizing" rarely works. Next time someone looks at all the numbers, they'll say, "WTF are we doing there?"

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Oliver also disputed claims that plane-making jobs are shifting to the company's Mexico facility.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... I see.

He's NOT moving the jobs to KS.

We goin' ta Tijuana!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yeah, Bend is a crazy place to locate a factory.

Yeah... how many people were on Columbia's payroll right before they BK'd the place?

Texttron will just close it one day.

GUARANTEED.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Have you driven through that neighborhood? I did last summer out of curiosity. The construction quality was amazingly bad. There were houses that had yet to be lived in where the trim boards around the garage door were peeling a couple inches away.

That's probably in one of the worst neighborhoods in Bend. It isn't a steal.


Dude, the Eastside STD's are by and large the worst pieces of shit ever built. Desert Skeeze, Gardenpile, Forum Sphincter... all dog shit, and basically good for buying & tearing down what's there. ie NOT A LOT.

We'll hot $50/sf soon... FOR GOOD REASON.

Anonymous said...

CACB killed the dividend. Aw, just when it peaked its creepy little eyes up over 1%.

Anonymous said...

Dude, the Eastside STD's are by and large the worst pieces of shit ever built. Desert Skeeze, Gardenpile, Forum Sphincter... all dog shit, and basically good for buying & tearing down what's there. ie NOT A LOT.

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Pls mention also that having an address east of SE 27th, aka GARBAGE-DUMP ain't cool.

How many 10's of thousands of STD's are rotting out there?

I said two years ago, ... so what if you can get a 4k-sq-ft house for $20/sq-ft, if it it costs $10-sq-ft/yr to heat the home?

Solution? This is why all HOLLERN's new SHEEEEEEET will be at Skyline between Shevlin&Sisters 30k acres just waiting to be STD's with a west-side ass-dress.

Bewert said...

Anybody bother doing a new Texas ratio on CACB yet?

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I hate to say it, but fire is our friend on the east side. Unless Obama decides to rent them for the homeless.

No jobs, no buying RE. Pretty fucking simple.

Anonymous said...

Cascade Bancorp ("Cascade") (Nasdaq: CACB - News) reported 2008 full year Net Loss of ($0.76) per share or ($21.2 million) compared to net income of $1.05 per share and $30.0 million in 2007. The Company recorded a $46.5 million (pre-tax) provision for credit losses for the fourth quarter of 2008 bringing the full year 2008 provision to $84.8 million versus $19.4 million in 2007. The provision was largely related to valuation adjustments on real estate collateral underpinning certain non-performing residential land development and construction loans, necessitating $41.1 million in charge-offs to write down such properties to estimated fair market value. Also, as a result of the increased loan loss provision the Company's reserve for credit losses rose to approximately $56.2 million or 2.84% of gross loans at December 31, 2008. Despite the significant provision and net loss, the Company's capital exceeds the "well capitalized" regulatory designation at 10.70% total risk based capital.

Commenting on the Company's results, Patricia L. Moss, CEO said "The severity of the economic downturn has continued to impact and challenge communities, businesses and individuals across our country. Focusing on that which we can control and effect, management at Bank of the Cascades is working diligently to respond to adversity by aggressively identifying and addressing current challenges. These circumstances have necessitated our recording a large loan loss provision in order to account for writes-downs on collateral underlying challenged loans, as well as to build our reserve for loan losses. I am appreciative of our established financial strengths and gratified that we are able to take these actions and remain 'well-capitalized' by all regulatory benchmarks. Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. At the same time we are working diligently to assess and mitigate credit quality risk in our other portfolios and to minimize the impact where possible."

Anonymous said...

Company's capital exceeds the "well capitalized" regulatory designation at 10.70% total risk based capital.

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The min is 10% so MOSS has a whopping 0.70% wiggle room, before shit hits the fan.

Texas Ration is assets/non-performing-assets

Trouble is her assets are over valued by 2-10X, and her non-performing are ignored.

Good fucking luck trying to normalize Bend to national data.

Anonymous said...

# Total capital (Tier 1 and Tier 2) ratio = Total capital (Tier 1 and Tier 2) / Risk-adjusted assets >=10%

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_requirement

She's got 10.7% and death is any thing under 10.0%

Capital & Risk are both being pulled out of the ass. Now somebody tell me why TARP of CARP ain't giving this good Christian bank CARP????

These folks are on life support. She's got to be looking for a buyer. It's day's folks, before we hear of an UMQUA sale, or nationalization.

Anonymous said...

"I am appreciative of our established financial strengths and gratified that we are able to take these actions and remain 'well-capitalized' by all regulatory benchmarks. Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. At the same time we are working diligently to assess and mitigate credit quality risk in our other portfolios and to minimize the impact where possible." - moss

* moss->english

We haven't even begun to recognize our eastside STD investments and when we do, we'll be automatically closed by the FDIC, please somebody help us.

Anonymous said...

Texas Ratio is assets/non-performing-assets

CACB was 31+ in Dec 08

WAMU was shutdown with 30 this summer

Clark-Co Bank of Vancou-WA was shutdown at 36 last week,

Anybody want to be that MOSS is at 40 today? or Higher?

Anonymous said...

Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. - moss

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Specifically we have put up tin-foil on our windows and hoping it just all goes away.

The good news is that the BULLetin & SORE are our friend, and the people in Bend are all Christians and stand behind us.

Like where in the fuck in BEND is the shit not down 50% or less or zero, or ten cents on the dollar?? Nobody is even yet looking at COMMERCIAL, the current is just at 'residential', even UMPQUA is going to get fucked hard when people start looking at COMMERICIAL RMV.

But its all OK, like HBM says none of it is real money, and EVERYONE got big-tvs and cars out of the deal, everybody.

Quimby said...

>> Texttron will just close it one day. GUARANTEED.

But Butter, what about the "strong commitments" Cessna made to the community to keep the plant here in Bend? Think they were counting on a full scale depression happening like we were? I don't think so.

They'll cut it to survive, despite their best intentions, or more sinisterly, sunshine-up-ass-assurances otherwise. :(

Bewert said...

Re: They'll cut it to survive, despite their best intentions, or more sinisterly, sunshine-up-ass-assurances otherwise. :(

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Ever work for a real conglomerate? My first "real" job, during college, was with the long gone and not missed ITT. "Feelings" have nothing to do with decisionmaking.

Anonymous said...

I guess mabe this is chief josephs day of reckoning. He was chased out of his domain in the 1800's and well by the white man. what goes around comes around. I am a white man and feel ashamed by what our ancestors did to to their way of life.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Cessna cuts 120 more jobs in Bend
With second round of layoffs, work force is reduced from 450 to 165
By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: January 30. 2009 4:00AM PST


Cessna Aircraft Co. announced more layoffs Thursday, including an additional 120 at its production facility at Bend Municipal Airport.

The cuts come on top of 165 positions that were eliminated in a November announcement. With the new reductions, the Wichita, Kan.-based company has trimmed the staff at its Bend plant by roughly two-thirds, from 450 workers to 165.

The Bend reductions announced Thursday are among 2,000 positions eliminated companywide, according to an Associated Press report.

In an e-mail to employees announcing the cuts, Cessna chairman Jack Pelton called the cuts “profound” but said they were necessary as a domestic recession and slowing economies overseas are creating business conditions “unprecedented in recent memory,” according to AP.

“It’s extremely difficult to forecast this year’s delivery number because, ultimately, it will depend on how the economy and other factors affect customer orders and cancellations,” Pelton wrote, according to AP. “As a result, it will be necessary for us to further reduce our production rates based on our current outlook for a weakening order book. That, unfortunately, means we will also have to further reduce our work force.”

Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said the employees whose positions were cut Thursday were given 60 days’ notice, as in the previous round of job cuts, to comply with the federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act.

Oliver said employees will be eligible for severance pay based on their length of service to the company after the 60-day notice period expires. Oliver said it’s against company policy to discuss financial details of severance pay.

The reductions were not surprising to Rich Belzer, a former Columbia Aircraft Manufacturing Co. executive who tracks the aviation industry. Cessna purchased Columbia out of U.S. Bankruptcy Court for $26.4 million in December 2007.

“I think what they are doing is smart,” said Belzer. “It makes sense when dealers are sitting on inventory.”

Belzer explained that Cessna, shortly after purchasing Columbia, received commitments from its dealers to purchase 150 of the planes. In 2008, Cessna was slow to ramp up production and delivered 100 of those. Belzer estimated the plant, in an effort to deliver the final 50 planes for which it has commitments, is now making one plane a week.

Oliver confirmed the Bend plant is producing fewer aircraft.

Belzer said the situation is exacerbated by the increase of used planes in the market as corporations look to sell their business jets for prices that become competitive with manufacturers’ new planes.

Cessna produces two piston-powered propeller planes at its Bend plant, each made from lightweight composite material, the Corvalis 350 and Corvalis 400. The models were known as the Cessna 350 and Cessna 400 until two weeks ago.

Said Belzer: “The market for planes is dropping quickly … so cutting down to one a week makes a lot of sense for them. They can wait and see what’s in the market and not cram inventory down the dealers’ throats, so I think layoffs make sense. But given the overhead of the plant, they can’t possibly make money, so you wonder what’s the long-term outlook on production.”

Oliver said Cessna “is still committed to Bend” and is working on two fronts to help increase demand for its Corvalis models. One is pursuing European certification for the planes. The other is lobbying Congress to reinstate an important tax rule that allows businesses to accelerate depreciation of business equipment, including airplanes.

“By accelerating the depreciation, it gives (businesses) a lower tax bill and it’s always been a pretty big stimulus for large purchase items such as aircraft,” Oliver said. “So … again, we’re committed to the Corvalis in Bend.”

Belzer, noting the tough economic climate for businesses, said that “when things are going down, buying airplanes is not high on the list for anybody.”

Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@bendbulletin.com.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

“So … again, we’re committed to the Corvalis in Bend.”

A strange Freudian statement?

Cuz we ain't gonna have a real 4 year college, dude.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


Belzer, noting the tough economic climate for businesses, said that “when things are going down, buying airplanes is not high on the list for anybody.”


I thought The Bully ran a piece saying that the planes made in Bend were SPECIAL, and that BEND WOULD ESCAPE THESE LAYOFFS, CUZ OUR PLANES WERE HIGH ON THE LIST FOR EVERYONE.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Bend may escape Cessna’s next ax
Published: January 08. 2009 4:00AM PST

Wichita, Kan.-based Cessna Aircraft Co. plans a second round of layoffs, but Bend may survive further cuts because the company is focusing on ways to trim costs related to diminishing demand for business jets, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said. Cessna’s Bend factory, located at Bend Municipal Airport, produces lightweight propeller-powered aircraft for personal use.

Oliver said media reports stating 1,000 more Cessna employees would be laid off are incorrect, although the company will announce the exact number today. In December, Cessna announced cuts of 500 jobs in Wichita and 165 at its Bend plant due to company forecasts predicting softening demand in 2009.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Bend may survive further cuts because the company is focusing on ways to trim costs related to diminishing demand for business jets, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said.

Remember that? Remember how we said that was utterly retarded? That's NOT a reason to keep jobs, it's actually IRRELEVANT.

THAT is when you knew Cessna was blowing shit.

Anonymous said...

CACB getting hammered. $2.59

tim said...

>>Bend may survive further cuts because the company is focusing on ways to trim costs related to diminishing demand for business jets, Cessna spokesman Doug Oliver said.

Butter, that was so three-weeks-ago. When these guys are making important prognostications, they aren't doing it with the expectation that you'll be recounting them after three whole weeks have passed. It's not really fair, of you, is it?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

CACB getting hammered. $2.59

Holy Fuckin' Crap!

$2.49, DOWN 34%

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Butter, that was so three-weeks-ago. When these guys are making important prognostications, they aren't doing it with the expectation that you'll be recounting them after three whole weeks have passed. It's not really fair, of you, is it?

Dude, I am going to start doing the right thing today, and not respond to that question.

Yeah, me!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

OK Folks, my McSpidey Sense tells me that you should start looking to YANK your cash outta Cracker Ass Cracker Broke, now that you can by a Big Mac for less than their share price.

When it hits $2, BEGIN TO PANIC!

Anonymous said...

So skeptical. So cynical.

You childish bear bloggers are wrong, of course, if you don't think your average American is dying to move to a brown desert that's shedding jobs the way that a snake sheds skin, to live in a shoddily-built gaudy-ass $600,000 McCraftsman house with neighbors 4 feet from every window. Because, as you know, EVERY American loves to hike and bike and kayak. That's why TV and web surfing and shopping and ocean beaches and amusement parks are so unpopular in the U.S.

They're not all sitting on their fat asses eating Velveeta Nachos and watching Super Bowl Ads because they WANT to, are they?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

SORRY... actually their SHARE PRICE IS LESS THAN A BIG MAC! A LOT LESS.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

live in a shoddily-built gaudy-ass $600,000 McCraftsman house with neighbors 4 feet from every window. Because, as you know, EVERY American loves to hike and bike and kayak...

True, when I live in the Great Outdoors, I want to live wall-to-motherfucking-wall with a bunch of like-minded Cali-Banger Spandex wearing mega-fags.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

We can thank our RETARDED CITY PLANNERS for allowing these postage stamp lots to proliferate with these skeezy fucking labor shit shacks all over.

These pieces of shit will soon be exposed for the 5-season-half-life pieces of dog shit they really are. You won't get $40/sf for these pieces of crap soon. 5 seasons of wood-peeling, garage flooding goodness & these MOLD HOLES won't even be fit for habitation.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Wow, I had a CACB DOWN 90% pre-emptive post I was hoping to do right before the actual event... Wall Street beat me to it.

I remember it well... this blog was started almost to the day of CACB's all time high of ~$32/sh.

Anonymous said...

Despite all the happy talk about how safe CACB is, I don't think that Bulletin article is going to be reassuring to people with accounts there. Sure, there's FDIC, but who WANTS to go through that, even when the process works well?

LavaBear said...

>>>SORRY... actually their SHARE PRICE IS LESS THAN A BIG MAC! A LOT LESS.

So how much is a Big Mac these days? Kids get the happy meals for the cheap plastic toys and I go for the dollar menu.

tim said...

This is weird. Meeting people random places and they are telling what other places they'd like to live. Man, that just did not happen much 3 years ago!

Anonymous said...

Why is it that the Bulletin only publishes photos of goodlooking, comfortable looking people, even if they are 70 years of age??

Anonymous said...

Sure, there's FDIC, but who WANTS to go through that, even when the process works well?

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The process only works well when the FDIC has reserves, and they're quickly approaching zero.

First down, first out. In last collapse of 1983 when Oryguns BenFranklin collapsed, it took over 20 years for people to get their 'insured' money back.

So far we have been lucky, WAMU went down there was a buyer, and accounts transferred, and here recently Clark(vancouver) went to Umpqua. But look what happened to BofA they were forced to buy country-wide and got fucked, they were forced to buy merrill and got fucked.

Very soon nobody will want these bad banks, everybody like Sisters knows its best to start anew with a clean balance-sheet, so soon these 'bad banks' will go down, in the last six months the FDIC reserve went from $80B to $40B, I think today its around $30B, soon they'll have no money. If you have been paying attention, after this $800B stimulus there will be o more money for anything.

The printing of money is over.

The way FDIC is written is yes, they have your money, and under $250k you can get back, but they don't have to return the money for 100 years. That's the law.

If you have been reading the REAL financial news you would know that soon there will be a 'bank holiday' and the last men will get nationalized, this is where its all going.

Duncan McGeary said...

"Why is it that the Bulletin only publishes photos of goodlooking, comfortable looking people, even if they are 70 years of age??"

Go to KTVZ or KOHD and see pictures of the other side of Bend; bad hair, snaggle-tooth, desperate looking Mug Shots.

Quimby said...

CACB

Check out the VOLUME today ! And the market has only been open a couple of hours.

Anonymous said...

The FDIC closes bad banks on Fridays.

Anonymous said...

"Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. - moss"


Excuse me! What kind of banker can't spell "AFFECTED?"

Anonymous said...

"Focusing on that which we can control and effect"

Are these people so freaked that they can't choose the right word?

"Focusing on that which we can control and AFFECT"

Or maybe they've become truly ineffectual.

tim said...

At least half of the CEOs I worked for could not spell. Couldn't even tell you where a comma might go. I'm assuming they've had to cut whomever used to copy edit press releases.

Anonymous said...

William Grieder's opinion:

Obama can begin by declaring a "bank holiday" like FDR's in 1933--an opportunity to put the hard facts on the table and assume temporary control of the entire financial system. Nationalizing the banks sounds more radical than it is, since banking law already empowers regulators to impose extraordinary controls and close supervision over troubled institutions.

Facing facts will be painful, but it's better than continuing a costly charade. Paulson's approach, endorsed by many Democrats, was designed to preserve oversized Wall Street titans. In fact, Paulson and the Federal Reserve are making things worse by creating new members of the privileged club of "too big to fail."

Public money is being used to finance bank takeovers that will become new behemoths.


http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081208/greider

Anonymous said...

The Great Depression: America 1929-1941 (Paperback)
by Robert S. Mcelvaine (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Depression-America-1929-1941/dp/0812923278/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233336035&sr=1-4

Homer posted a tiny fucking taste this week of "The great depression" will you KUNTS please spend the $11, and read the book?? For damn near 2-1/2 years I have begged that we have a proper debate, how in the fuck can we debate the Bend depression?

Anonymous said...

"Specifically, we have written-down a substantial portion of the residential development loan portfolio that has proven to be the most negatively effected by the downturn. - moss"

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There is way more importance here than 'effected'.

1.) We have not even close to marked down are residential, or considered its current RMV.

2.) We have even fucking looked at our commercial which is the albatross around our neck.

Moss is so fucking far under-water that she is now using a toy snorkel from Walmart to breath ( chinese of course ), the snorkel keeps CACB 'capital reserves' above 10%, at this hour CACB is operating on what they say is 10.7%, thus even with the MOSS snorkel she's got 0.7" between the water and suffocation.

Given 1&2 above CACB is surely way below the critical KILL-ZONE of 10% MIN.

Scary shit, we have picked and chosen a few residential cases to write down, and ignored our commercial, but damn we're still alive!!!!!!!! Hoooooooray

tim said...

Seems like as the year unrolls, the commercial will end up being worse than the residential.

Bewert said...

CACB $2.48 on almost triple daily volume already.

Are we going to see $1.99 at some point soon?

LavaBear said...

>>>Seems like as the year unrolls, the commercial will end up being worse than the residential.

Yep, they're dead. Look at the other like sized banks in the region and they are all trading ok today. Cracker Ass has cratered. Then you read some of their assumptions and realized they haven't even started taking a bite out of their CRE...

Quimby said...

I bet the reason Crowne Point(?) is organizing is because they know CACB is doomed and will scoop up their depositors once they fail.

Bewert said...

From Google Groups-CACB Discussion:

As a pillar of the community, Bank of the Cascades was a central figure in the lives of the business owners and residents of Sisters, Oregon. Members of their staff actively participated in annual events like quilt shows and quilting classes, rodeos, various trade and street fairs, Starry Nights concerts, Chamber of Commerce functions, and other volunteer organizations and events. Members of the community liked coming to the bank where their friends took care of them, but fairy tales have a way of ending. Within the last twelve months, TEN of their friends and neighbors are no longer working in the branch, and the promised dream of doing some of their banking in Ray’s Supermarket by the end of 2008 has disappeared completely. The reduction in profitability of the Sisters branch has been masked by the failing economy and by other management problems within the bank, but every customer and business that moves his or her account to the newly opened South Valley Bank & Trust will NOT be returning to Bank of the Cascades when the economy improves. As a reward for facilitating these staffing changes, the recently hired manager has been moved to a larger branch in Redmond where, I sure, she will continue to display her outstanding management expertise.

Bewert said...

Loan portfolio 12/31/2008
Commercial $ 585,721
Real Estate:
Construction/lot 533,914
Mortgage 96,417
Commercial 704,779
Consumer 58,235
Total loans 1,979,066
Less reserve for loan losses 55,209
Total loans, net $ 1,923,857

Bewert said...

CACB $2.30
-1.47 (-38.99%)

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This could be a watershed day in Central Oregon.

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12/31/08
Commercial Construction:
Pre sold $ 27,826
Lots 16,443
Speculative 144,356
Speculative Lots 22,409

Total $ 211,034

Bewert said...

Where our money went #3:

From Annual Finance Report 6/30/06

Water Improvements - Improvements to the City’s water system added $5 million to capital assets. Major projects included the Mt Washington transmission mains and the Outback reservoir. Developer constructed infrastructure contributed to the City totaled $3.5 million in the current year. The City also accrued a $5.6 million liability in the Water Fund for the Juniper Utility judgment. This $5.6 million was capitalized to capital assets as the acquisition cost of the utility.

Wastewater Improvements - Improvements to the wastewater system added $2 million to capital assets. Developer constructed infrastructure totaled $6.6 million. Major projects undertaken by the City included equipment for the Solids Handling building. The City also accrued a $3.9 million liability in the wastewater fund for the Juniper Utility judgment. This $3.9 million was capitalized to capital assets as the acquisition cost of the utility.
...
Long-term debt increased by $1.6 million. The City reduced its debt by $10.8 million through scheduled debt service and an advance refunding in the current year. New debt issuance totaled $12.4 million ($4.8 million in full faith & credit obligations for purchase of land and $7.6 million in sewer refunding bonds). Other liabilities increased by $7.0 million due mainly to a $9.5 million liability accrued as a result of the Juniper Utility lawsuit judgment (see note 13 of the basic financial statements for further detail on the Juniper Utility lawsuit).

Anonymous said...

Well City-Hall as ATE your YOUNG ( our good credit ), HBM say's it wasn't real money, to me that's like saying nobody lost real limbs. Since 2004 with KURATEK & GARZINI telling ABERNETHY to "run BEND like a business", well we now have eaten our future, so the beautiful few ( Moss, Taylor, Brooks, ... ) looked good, ...

US business is collapsing because its a world of DEBT, and BEND is collapsing cuz Garzini&Kuratek told city-hall that they too could RUN Bend like US-CORP biz, and they did so, they raped and robbed the tax-payer, and left not a fucking piece of meat on the bone.

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Years ago I traveled all over Africa as a 'private safaris with some buddys', and every village was the same, lots of boys with arms or legs missing.

After awhile I begged the question? Well it turns out that tribes and villages rob each other continually, but what they do is they want to come back the following year and take young girls of age and food. If you kill all the males then there are neither food nor females in the future, so you raid a village, and leave the males in a state where they can grow food and raise livestock but can't fight.

Bend is much the same, you as a vendor could in theory pillage your customers today, but it really is in your interest that they're employed and continue to be just healthy enough to crawl to your store, but not so healthy to drive to neighboring village say Redmond and buy comics or books.

Everything has to be in equilibrium.

I see it also, in my principal business its been absolute ZERO since May of 2007, I saw it coming, and was prepared. But my customer is CORPORATE, your customer is individual. The layoffs are only now happening and with a vengeance just this week Caterpillar the best company in the world 25% 'fired' and thats the word they used, not laid off, not furloughed but FIRED.

Thus the pain that the villagers of BEND will soon endure in the coming years will be mind boggling, but remember as hungry as the merchant wolf is, its in your interest to leave the males with at least one limb intact.

The rule used to be six months of cash to survive, today I suggest two years, if you aren't ready to live two years and subsidize your lifestyle get the fuck out of BEND.

One last comment from my heart, upon reading the distribution of the OBAMA stimulus majority of 'infrastructure' is going to the northern-midwest, probably not a bad idea, with homes $50k, and many roadless areas that will be the next BOOM. Bend will fall into a horrible black-hole, but there will always be new places that are booming.

Oregon ($6B) is getting very little of the $800B stimulus, and Bend
is going get almost zilch, there is no magic coming to Bend to rescue the economy, its every savage for themselves.

Bewert said...

IIRC those 200+ lots CACB took back, the ones SP found, were in January and may not be included in these latest 10-K numbers:

OREO - non performing $39,752

Duncan McGeary said...

Of course it was real money.

Why the hell else are we talking about it?

The guys who skimmed and scammed the money away -- that was real.

The debt they left us with, that is real.

The money my house was worth two years ago? That wasn't real.

Bewert said...

2.20
-1.57 (-41.64%)

Volume close to 4x normal

And today is Friday...

Anonymous said...

The recession following 9/11 was psychology.

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For every DOLLAR that Al-Queda ( bin laden, Bush family saudi contractor ), spent on 911 ( twin-tower ) hijack, the US government lost $1M during the first year of the event (911).

It's estimated that OBL spent $20k on the 911 hijack, and that the cost to the US was over $20 Billion dollar loss ( First year of 911).

Much more than psychology is/was at stake with 911, that is why I believe when history books of the future are written about US depression 2.0, 911 will be our 1929. Today we're at 1933, and but this time the depression has been expanded 2X in time.

In response the 911 black-swan, BUSH released 'easy-money', which that event now will cost at least $2 Trillion, and that's just newly printed money this year and last.

When the final history books have been written for every dollar al-queda spent, it will have cost the USA over a billion dollars.

The original goal was to bring the US to its financials knees an for all indication, all they have to do is sit and wait.

Note for the record in Persian, "al-queda' means the Base, it was always the CIA base setup by Ronny-Raygun back in the afghan war, for full history on the real origin of 'al-queda' read book 'Charlies Wilsons War', not the movie.

Anonymous said...

BP,

BUT WHO GOT THE MONEY??

ALL these people have name(s) behind the lawsuits, and bungles, and land purchases, we need to name names for the record.

The majority of Bend's astronomic debt, that HBM says is NOT real money, went to individuals.

LavaBear said...

>>>BUT WHO GOT THE MONEY??

Jan Ward got the Juniper Utility money plus the city was required to pick up his legal fees as well. Sucks to lose.

Anonymous said...

The money my house was worth two years ago? That wasn't real.

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Thanks dunc, that's how I feel too, people here always say, but why didn't you sell?

Hell I didn't care, I paid $15k, for most of my houses, and so what if they were selling for $500k, all I ever wanted was my $750/mo rent.

Yes, thanks for the confirm, prices will not go as low as $15k, but the rents have pretty much remained the same as long as I can remember.

Now, let's get back to the DEBT that is REAL-MONEY contrary to many on this board, it seems like me&dunc are the only 'small-businessmen' who understand cash-flow accounting.

See we have to spend only what take in, and we can't run funny 'enron books' like city-hall.

Hell yes OUR CITY DEBT is real money, all $200M that's now BEND gone, and it all went to people like MOSS, HOLLERN, TAYLOR, KURATEK, ... indirectly to COSTA, ... to COVA, CORA, COBA, ...

These people need to be humiliated.

The money is GONE, and the SORE & BULL were instrumental in the fraud.

Anonymous said...

Sucks to lose.

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It's my understanding that in the last ten years of fraud, Bend never won a case ever.

So let's also add in the Millions that lawyers representing Bend got, all players in the game.

Head's I win, Tail you lose.

It's BEND where everybody gets paid, and there are no losers.

When the party's over, you just say that the 'TAB-DUE' is NOT real money.

Thanks, HBM, now open back up your blog @ sore-eye so we can run aber-pussy in your face.

Anonymous said...

Quimby said...I bet the reason Crowne Point(?) is organizing is because they know CACB is doomed and will scoop up their depositors once they fail.

I bet that Crown Point in no longer organizing. Not a peep about it anywhere but here for almost 4 months. Also, I'm guessing that a lot of the extra dollars that many of their group of "seed money" investors had lying around (for instance in the market) have dried up. Just a guess, mind you.

Anonymous said...

The guys who skimmed and scammed the money away -- that was real.

The debt they left us with, that is real.

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Well keep up the good war dunc, because HBM, and a lot of other 'reporters' in BEND say it was never real money.

I agree with you. This is town is already legally by State law bankrupt, just like legally by FDIC charter CACB is already insolvent.

The level of fucking ostrice with head's in the ground in this fucking town.

Like today with OBAMA coming out and saying that middle class ameriKKKa is fucked, yeh, about time that a poly-tick-ian speak the truth.

ME & BEM have said FOREVER here, we can't fix BEND until we admit the truth about BEND, its just like AA and 12-steps, first step is to admit your a fucking alcholic.

First step in BEND recovery is for the BULL&SORE to admit the fucking fraud.

Anonymous said...

I bet that Crown Point in no longer organizing. Not a peep about it anywhere but here for almost 4 months. Also, I'm guessing that a lot of the extra dollars that many of their group of "seed money" investors had lying around (for instance in the market) have dried up. Just a guess, mind you.

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I completely agree, and I'll add another NOTE, that a lot of the COLD-FEET was because of Summit-1031 no accident that new-bank was sisters christian, and s1031 was bend christian, and moss-christian was LCD ( least common denominator ).

One more fucking thing, with CACB astro on their texas-ratio, I'll say why the FED hasn't done shit, CUZ NOBODY can be forced to BUY THE PIG.

See UMQUA got Clark-co(vancouver-wa) bank cuz, vancouver, is near PDX, DUY you remember him OR economist, he says all new jobs in ORYGUN will be near PDX for next ten years, UMQUA ain't stupid with NO sales tax, vancouver-wa will continue to boom.

Clark-bank wasn't that fucked, just a few real bad STD tracts they had invested in.

BEND is fucked, NOBODY can be forced to BUY CACB, that is what is going on.

My feeling on CrownPoint being that all part of the Same CHRISTIAN-FAMILY as 1031, and Bend Westside(jeebus), that 1031 just knocked the flock into fucking paranoia, you all know that the IRS is running flashlights up all these arses as we speak.

CrownPointe is a damn good idea, banks with fresh balance sheets with NO bad loans, but let's be honest, we know nationalization is coming, and we know that most of Bend's christian rat's must be pissing their pants with all the FED flashlights on BEND.

Never been a better time during a Bend winter to take a long Mexican vacation.

Anonymous said...

What's the GIANT sucking Sound??

That's all the money leaving Bend ORYGUN.

Bewert said...

CACB Texas Ratio as of 12/31/08 with todays stock price drop used to determine tangible equity:

"...calculated by dividing the value of the lender's non-performing assets (Non performing loans + Real Estate Owned) by the sum of its tangible common equity capital and loan loss reserves."

Non-performing assets $180,404,000

Market cap $62,000,000
+ Retained Earnings $90,267,000
+ Loan-Loss Reserves $56,200,000
= $208,476,000

TR=$180,404,000/$208,476,000
= 86.5

Bewert said...

Re: BP,

BUT WHO GOT THE MONEY??

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$9.9M to Juniper Utility, owned by Kim Ward. He also owns Crown Villa RV Park, one of them that they were going to or did kick them out to build homes.

BULL land, Todd Taylor.

What was the other one again? The land out north being used for the water HQ? IIRC $4.8M to Todd Taylor.

Remember, Todd Taylor is also the President of Knife River.

LavaBear said...

>>>Juniper Utility, owned by Kim Ward.

Sorry Bruce, wrong brother. Juniper Utility was Jan Ward.

Bewert said...

CACB $2.34
-1.43 (-37.93%)
Close

My guess is a 30% chance of hearing from the FDIC tomorrow morning...

Bewert said...

Re:
Sorry Bruce, wrong brother. Juniper Utility was Jan Ward.

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Looking closer, I think you are right, LB. Both brothers seem to involved, with Kim owning Crown Villa and Jan owning Juniper Utilities. Kim's settlement was about water rates.

LavaBear said...

>>>TR=$180,404,000/$208,476,000=86.5


Let's say they get the CARP then it's:

$180/$275 = 65.4

Still appears fuckered. Plus it's the $180 number I don't believe.

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine if they audited this bitch? What would Jeebus say? What bank would baby-jeebus keep his shekels?

CACB (non-audited) Non-Performing Assets by Loan Type as of 12/31/08

% of
$ % Related
Millions NPA's Portfolio
Land Development 99,355 55.1% 46.0%
Res Construction 20,558 11.4% 19.0%
Commercial Construction 25,133 13.9% 11.9%
Commercial RE 27,428 15.2% 3.9%
C&I / Other 7,930 4.4% 1.1%
180,404 100.0% 9.1%

Anonymous said...

BP,

You haven't done a JR post on your BB for awhile, a good thing would be all the DEBT in junks over $1M, and name corp's and name's, once we get the name's we can start linking the DBA's, and all the churches, and what not back to all the media, ...

Right now all your data is spread out on 'where the money went' there needs to be one blog post, so that comments can be added for correction, and then once we get it all nailed we can sprout entire blogs on each character.

Anonymous said...

Remember, Todd Taylor is also the President of Knife River.

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Knife-River is owned by MDU, MOSS(CACB) is on board, and gets $200k/yr for keeping KR busy.

So much money, all going in a circle, and all Bend City tax payer money.

The MDU money that MOSS gets his real money, or is HBM going to tell us that money is also not 'real'.

Anonymous said...

MDU stock (MOSS) is holding well.

Not to MIND fuck you guys, but I watch this shit closely like the STIMULUS, here is ONE very interesting FACT. Most of the MONEY for infrastructure is going to the northern-midwest, but guess what MDU has giant wind-mills going into No-Dakota, exactly where most of the OREO stimulus is going. Sounds to me like MDU stock is going to sky-rocket, which means MOSS is going to be filthy rich.

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MDU Resources Group Announces Plans for New Wind Project, Wind Expansion

BISMARCK, N.D.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--MDU Resources Group, Inc. (NYSE:MDU) announced today that its utility division Montana-Dakota Utilities Co. has plans to develop a 19.5 megawatt wind generation facility in southwest North Dakota. The wind project will be located on leased land approximately five miles west of Rhame, N.D.

Montana-Dakota also announced plans to expand its Diamond Willow wind facility by an additional 10.5 MW. Diamond Willow, which went online in late 2007, is located near Baker, Mont. The expansion project will include seven additional wind turbines on existing leased land, and increase the capability of the site to 30 MW.

Both projects are pending regulatory approval.

“We are excited about expanding our wind generation portfolio, and are very pleased to find a location in southwest North Dakota for a site,” said Dave Goodin, president and chief executive officer of Montana-Dakota Utilities. “This further diversifies our electric generation as we build out to meet our customer need.”

Anonymous said...

Here's my guess of went down all along, on theory's as posted about Sisters Bank.

CACB was a front all along to run Bend into the ground and make a ton o money for MDU.

MDU is tight with both party's, BEND is a PUG town is going to get fucked by the stimulus.

CACB goes down, and MOSS goes straight for MDU, and either retires RICH, or takes the helm of an MDU OBAMA stimulus program up in No-Dakota.

Yes, anything Bend is fucked, and us old timers, will get stuck with the BILL, and all the newbies like COSTA, HBM, ... they're all going to retire.

The christian banks of central-orygun are going down, including sisters, just like S1031, ... They'll all blame OREO.

Anonymous said...

Both projects are pending regulatory approval.

“We are excited about expanding our wind generation portfolio, and are very pleased to find a location in southwest North Dakota for a site,” said Dave Goodin, president and chief executive officer of Montana-Dakota Utilities. “This further diversifies our electric generation as we build out to meet our customer need.”

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These guys are going to be providing the power to Montana/No-Dakota where the OREO stimulus is going to have infinite money dumped.

Who would have guessed?

Anonymous said...

Once we get all the biggest names of who got over $1M during the last six years, then we can work back and see who of them are tied to CORA, and COBA, and who got what politicians elected, and who owned who.

Anonymous said...

I posted this the other day, but you KUNTS never listen, below is the link to the USA graphs of who is getting all the OREO-STIMULUS.

Note that No-Dakota area is getting biggest hunk of 'infrastructure'.

Go to the link below, and click on the USA maps, fascinating all in color for the number impaired.

Jan. 28, 2009

The U.S. House has approved a White House-backed $819 billion economic stimulus bill.

For more information: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123315486943524321.html?mod=djemalertNEWS

Anonymous said...

Talking about 'words' how in the FUCK is HOLLERN a 'scholar'???

Recovery isn’t likely in 2009, scholars forecast

Bend Bulletin, OR - Jan 28, 2009

Mike Hollern, the CEO of Bend-based Brooks Resources Corp., whose projects include developing Awbrey Butte, said there were no surprises in the presentation ...

Anonymous said...

This is FUCKING DREAMING, but could you imagine 'if' OREO money came to BEND, and really did BUY CACB crap-shacks and turn them into to rentals ran by the city of Bend??

What would they call them? Resorts? Vacation homes?

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Hollern said. “I think we had a couple of good years, and anyone in business today, their objective is survival.

“Hopefully, all this government intervention works great, and hopefully we have really smart people making those decisions.”

Lesh, who kicked off the seminar, said any government intervention should include money for local governments to purchase foreclosed properties. This would help banks clean up their balance sheets and do more lending, and would take a surplus of homes off the market, which would stabilize the decline in housing prices.

Anonymous said...

The MDU (Knife-River) money that MOSS gets IS real money, or is HBM going to tell us that money is also not 'real'.

Bewert said...

Looking at that stimuls map, it's like the blue states (except Cali) got screwed.

tim said...

It's a per capita map. Things like highway and bridge infrastructure in all states benefit all of us. There are more per capita road miles in the states with small populations, naturally.

LavaBear said...

>>>The MDU (Knife-River) money that MOSS gets IS real money, or is HBM going to tell us that money is also not 'real'

Let's see if MDU gets any of that stimulus and what happens to their stock. Plus will they keep a director on their board of a failed bank? Seems that money coming may or may not be real. Hard to say.

Anonymous said...

Central Oregon Expects More Homeless

BY ETHAN LINDSEY

Bend, OR January 30, 2009 11:32

Central Oregon volunteers are tallying the forms submitted during Thursday’s one-night homeless count.

Central Oregon correspondent Ethan Lindsey reports.


Homeless advocates across the country use one-night counts to get hard numbers.

Volunteers at the Trinity Episcopal Church in Bend served food as they counted.

Hundreds more fanned out to Redmond, Prineville, and the surrounding areas.

Tammy Baney is a Deschutes County Commissioner.

Tammy Baney: “Without appropriate counts of what the need actually is, we won’t know what type of a continuum that we need.”

In previous years, more than 2000 homeless have been counted.

Tammy Baney: “Some have said, oh back in the 80s was bad, well, I don’t know, I beg to differ. I think the drop off is much greater this time.”

Central Oregon is unique because many of the homeless live in camping villages on national forest land.

During this year’s count, volunteers found 22 homeless camps near the city of Bend.

Anonymous said...

Looking at that stimuls map, it's like the blue states (except Cali) got screwed.

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Imagine that? Who would have guessd?

Look at the number's if you don't like colors, and forget the map's per say you can click on each state on get the actual number's $$$ or per-capita, it's all there.

Anonymous said...

Hollern said. “I think we had a couple of good years, and anyone in business today, their objective is survival.

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Hell, yes, this is what its only about, and note MOST don't survive, nor ever did.

Survival of the fittest it is about it is.

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