Monday, October 27, 2008

Bend -- Closed for Business

Welp, if you can't tell, I'm pressed for time, and people seem to want to talk about McPAIN no matter what I post, so this will be just a short weekly placeholder.

I noticed something on Wall St that I haven't seen in a long, long while: 9, count 'em, NINE empty parking spaces in a row. Nine! I the middle of the day. Last year at this time, on a nice sunny day, you just started rounding Bond & Wall, and finally settled on something way off the beaten path.

I can SEE Bend slowing VISIBLY. Which is bad. Cuz once you can SEE it on the streets, it's pretty damn bad.

The Pita Pit, which opened with such fan-fair & crowds, similar to Sonic, was DEAD EMPTY. I mean, the half life of The Big Bang Openings, has gotten down to 1 week. It's just one week, and the honeymoon is over.

And Bend's Beautiful People, you know, the people with 278 non-profits started in the past 3 months... you know, people with morals, looks, titties and MONEY so superior to you and me, that you & me make THEM wanna VOMIT.... well, those people have started engaging in the lowest, most VILE activity known to man:

THEY ARE APPLYING FOR JOBS!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! MY GOD!!!!!!! NORMALCY IS FOR LOSERS!!! ONLY THE START-UP & ABANDONMENT OF NON-PROFITS IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Yeah. These people are applying for jobs. OK, this is like The Yankees putting a penguin on first base or something. It's so alien to these people to engage in NORMAL LIFE, even they don't know how to do it well, if at all.

Well, if you have 2 cents to rub together this should all be obvious. Hard times are here to stay. If you're looking for The Turn, don't look in Bend. We're 18 months behind, and twice as deep in the shitter.

We're supposedly 3X the exposure to RE as the rest of the state. Bullshit. We're 5-6X MINIMUM. 150% MINIMUM of this regoins growth over the past 10-12 years is due to RE. Without it, we'd have SHRUNK.

This "Credit Crunch" is the End of Days for us. We're dead meat. $120K medians may look Way The Hell Too Optimistic at the end. Why? Bend was purposefully BILKED FOR EVERY FUCKING CENT by RE INTERESTS. And they were enabled by our beloved City Council. Realize that these positions have NO PURPOSE but dispensing influence.

TOM GREENE is the PRESIDENT of the Central Oregon Realtors Association, and I'm sorry, but we DO NOT NEED yet another BOUGHT & PAID FOR WHORE RUNNING THIS TOWN. We have FAR MORE than enough. My God.

These people got us HERE. This is the "Who could have possibly predicted THIS would have happened?" types. They literally cannot predict the sunrise.

Bend council candidates all over map in fundraising

The second-highest fundraiser, attorney Jeff Eager, has brought in $17,563 in his bid for the seat currently held by Mayor Bruce Abernethy, who is not seeking re-election. About $4,000 of Eager’s money comes from Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing and the Central Oregon Association of Realtors’ PAC.

In the three races with an incumbent seeking re-election, the challengers all have raised more money. Former Mayor Kathie Eckman, who is trying to unseat Councilor Linda Johnson, has raised the most of any candidate: $19,446. More than a third of that money has come from Eckman and her husband, Paul, but a large amount has also come from a handful of political action committees, including the Bend Firefighters Association, Deschutes County Republican Central Committee, Central Oregon Association of Realtors and Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing, a builders’ group.

Eckman said this election is the first time she’s received money from political action groups. She said the builders and real estate agents are supportive of her because of her earlier work in city government.

Fundraising efforts in the race between Councilor Peter Gramlich and Tom Greene, the president of the Central Oregon Association of Realtors, are more evenly matched. To date, Gramlich has raised $9,329 and spent $4,007, while Greene has raised $10,034 and spent $8,899.

Gramlich has not received any contributions from organized PACs. Greene has received $3,000 from the Realtor’s association’s PAC and $1,000 from the builder’s group.

In the race between Councilor Jim Clinton and propane company owner Don Leonard, Clinton has raised $5,149 — including $500 from the Bend Firefighters Association’s PAC — and spent $1,279. Leonard has raised $9,100 and spent $6,171. About half of Leonard’s bank account has come from the Realtor’s and builder’s PACs. He has also received $250 from the Deschutes County Republican Central Committee.

No. That is NOT BULLSHIT. Nearly every SINGLE FUCKING CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE is a bought & PAID FOR WHORE of the LOCAL RE PAC's. Every fucking one.

This Jeff Eager fucker takes the cake, in that he's a LAWYER too.

OK, NONE of these FUCKWADS are worthy of having me pee in their fucking mouths. they are to a one, INFLUENCE PEDDLERS. That is the ONLY GROWTH INDUSTRY LEFT in this town. Hell, it's almost the only industry, period.

This is similarly how I feel about Obama-Nation & McPAIN: This country has become a nation of Politco's, influence peddling whores. WHY is the HELL would Osama spend $160 MILLION in one month?

Because politics is the industry of SELLING OUT EVERYONE ELSE. Get as close to The Honey Pot as you can, and then FUCK EVERYONE.

This country is doomed. They're starting to raise the idea of AmeriKKKa as a second-rate power in mainline media. That means it's really already here. And believe me, it IS inevitable.

Don't vote for these City Council fuckers. Write in someone. Write in Dunc. Write me in, I Hate To Baste Your BUTTERBALL. Write in someone. This town is going to shit, and COAR has their hands firmly on the rudder, which is planted in the asshole of EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE. COBA too.

We're losing this place. To the worst fucking bunch of thieves on EARTH. read the above article and DO NOT VOTE FOR A SINGLE FUCKER that is either:

1) Supported by RE or builder PAC's, or

2) Won't disclose their funding sources. Dallas Brown comes to mind.

Send a message folks. Write in someone you know. This town is LOST cuz of these fuckers. They have put us on the road to OBLIVION. Go look around downtown. It's a fucking GHOSTTOWN.

THAT is what RE has gotten us. We put ALL our eggs in ONE BASKET, because RE PAC's have bought every election for a generation in this town. You CAN SEE they are trying to buy this one. They will probably succeed.

They will SUCK THIS TOWN DRY. They will DESTROY IT. They really already have. We are already totally doomed. Vote, and tell these fuckers to FUCK OFF.

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Bewert said...

Re: And get back to work bitches!

If you haven't done it yet, here is the list of Bend Vote Dropoff Locations:

Deschutes Service Center
1300 NW Wall St
Drop Box located on Parkway side of building
Available 7 days a week
Election Day, Tuesday, Nov 4: open until 8 pm

Drive-By Drop Site
Corner of Wall St and Lafayette Ave
(Parking Area)
Days open extended for this election.
Oct 27 – Nov 3 (Mon – Fri): 8 am – 6 pm
Election Day, Tuesday, Nov 4: 7 am - 8 pm

Deschutes County Road Department
61150 SE 27th St
Available 7 days a week
Election Day, Tuesday, Nov 4: open until 8 pm


Full county location list here.

tim said...

I can't wait until Wednesday when people will shut up about voting.

Quimby said...

Tim, I think you'd enjoy:

Get-Out-The-Dopes

Yes, thank God it's all going to be over on Weds.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe you on the issue of the city paying for Suterra's pad. The Entry Permit refers to "the Permitee's [Suterra] Contractor [Knife River]" and includes this clause:

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I never said that PUSSY, What I said is what the BURA budget said, "$4M on infrastucture at city nickel".

I also said that the sales agreement says "All material for Suterra to be supplied by local JR rock, that means that don't have to pay for hauling".

I also said "All permits, fees, .. waived", that means they got a good fucking deal.

I never said they paid for a 'pad' pussy.

The important thing is that the city is paying Knife-River $4M to do the infrastructure for the Suterra site, way fucking more then revenue from sale.

Another fucking loser deal, but bend the loser town.

Thanks for keep me honest pussy.

Anonymous said...

Very little FACTUAL has been established. We don't know ANYTHING about the pheromones.

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FUCK YOU, you obviously don't fucking read, the courts in cali have established the pheromones that suterra sells are synthetic and toxic, and wrapped in iso-cyanate.

Anonymous said...

Most of us are unclear exactly what Suterra does and is.


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Then your living in a fucking bubble.

Anonymous said...

If there was anything important going on in this town, the Bulletin would tell I second the motion that the pussy dies.

Anonymous said...

Pussy,

You tell us why the Suterra 10/4/2008 access for their excavator 'knife-river' is fucking important the sales agreement allows it, its on the terms of the sale,

You tell us why thats important?

The only thing I can see is that they were in a big hurry to get Knife-River working again on JR.

Folks just love to see rock being crushed, and earth-movers doing their thing at JR, I guess its in Bends blood.

Anonymous said...

For the dick-heads who suggest we shutdown these blogs I say may you fall into BP twat, noir, black-hole, ...

There are no non-censored sites in BEND other than BB2.

If you can't stand non-censorship then hang at bendeconomy(bebb).

Things are just now going to get interesting, sure we all knew that BEND would implode, we all saw the bubble coming, now we get to watch the fucking town implode.

We get to watch the BULLetin rob the city blind, and city council fuck each other, what could be more interesting??

Can't handle the show?? Then turn off your TV.

Anonymous said...

Remember if you don't vote for OREO, it means you hate the pussy.

Everyone loves the pussy right?? Then vote for the OREO.

Bewert said...

Re: You know, this all begs an interesting question: what does it tell you about a group's agenda and ideas if it thinks that it has a vested interest in getting out the idiot vote?

Quim, I assume that most who read this are somewhat educated...

We're up to 58% voting in Deschutes County as of 11/1. That's pretty good.

And the other side of the equation is what about those who desire to vote but are discouraged by caging challenges, several hour waits, etc.

We have the best voting system in the nation here in Oregon.

Anonymous said...

HOMER,

Could you please replace the bendeconomy with the following site, so we can have subject debates that don't get deleted.

Remember BEBB is the asshole that outed you, its a waste of time you promoting his site, he deletes virtually everything that is posted.

Pleeeze ..

http://bendeconomy2.informe.com/forum/index.php

Quimby said...

>> We have the best voting system in the nation here in Oregon.

Agreed. I wouldn't go back to the old style for nuthin.

Anonymous said...

Suterra Deal!!! $2.5M in $7M out ( figure about 2X of what they say they're spending on the total benny package ). The city is responsible for running roads, sewer and water, at a projected cost of $3.5M.

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Yes pussy, then tag in ...

1.) ALL permits, fees, ... for all time waived, ...

2.) All rock for all construction to come from common JR quarry, what a fucking deal, ... This is for your fucking 'PAD' you so fucking concerned about ALL the fucking FILL for the pad, was supplied for FREE courtesy of JR aka City of Bend, read the fucking sales-agreement.

3.) You the taxpayer, do you want lube while fuck you in the ass ( that will cost you ).

Let's see $3.5M in infrastructure, to get a $2.5M sale.

Who runs BURA that does all this shit?? GARZINI What does garzini say??

Run you city like a business!!

A prison is just a hotel with maximum occupancy.

God bless garzini, only a person spending public money his entire life, could run a business that loses $2M for every Million earned.

Anonymous said...

We're up to 58% voting in Deschutes County as of 11/1. That's pretty good.

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Yes, pussy and in 2004, 58% of the voters voted PUG,

What will it be in 2008??

Talking about fucking dumb, Bend is probably dumber now than 2004.

Anybody want to place bets??

Numbers?? Come on quim?? Whats it going to be 70% of Bend votes PALIN??

PUssy says that the DEM reg is up this year, but BEND consistently votes PUG( stupid ).

Anonymous said...

The ameriKKKan electorate 'stupid' this is an intellectual argument??

I would call the USA 'informed voter' an oxymoron.

Here in BEND everyone is fed BULL, thus our votes are all bought and paid for.

The BULL told us ALL to vote for Palin, and I say she wins in BEND!!!

Palin will bring back the RE bubble in BEND.

Quimby said...

>> Numbers?? Come on quim?? Whats it going to be 70% of Bend votes PALIN?'

With so many fucking Calis and PDX faggots here now, I'm betting DesCo goes blue tomorrow.

But its just the opposite side of the same coin.

The problem is the sports team mentality we often display when it comes to political parties. Logic goes out the window and an emotional response ensues.

Anonymous said...

"Palin will bring back the RE bubble in BEND."

Careful, now, you might offend Timmy.

Timmy used to talk a lot about Palin (giving free advice to Democrats) but you don't here him saying much nowadays.

Bewert said...

Buster, you're on a roll.

Re: 1.) ALL permits, fees, ... for all time waived, ...

Proof? I haven't seen that.


2.) All rock for all construction to come from common JR quarry, what a fucking deal,

You have that right. If you look really hard in the second Suterra pic I posted, you can see orange around where they took fill out, to the east.

Re: Anybody want to place bets??

Yep. My canvassing has been 5-1 Obama. Inside the city of Bend.

So what you going to buy me?

Bewert said...

Re: The problem is the sports team mentality we often display when it comes to political parties. Logic goes out the window and an emotional response ensues.


Quim, you haven't been paying attention. Like the question of why aren't the oil companies drilling in the 68,000,000 acres they already have under lease. According to Newt, it's because:First, lease agreements already require timely use of leased land....Second, and more disturbingly, Mr. Bingaman and Mr. Rahall's groundless accusation and proposed legislation rely on the absurd assumption that every acre of land leased by the government contains oil. Obviously, that's not the case...That's hardly "sitting on their leases." But those leases will be "nonproducing" until 2010. Clearly, a "use it or lose it" law will not change these hard realities.

Further complications often stymie energy companies from obtaining and using leased land. Every step in the process must be preceded by environmental studies, oil spill response plans, onsite inspections, and permits. The process takes years, and every step is subject to delays, challenges - and litigation., etc.


Remember that Newt Gingrich is founder of the nonpartisan think tank American Solutions...

So why are they not drilling on the area they have leased that is roughly 1/10th the size of California? And why are they fighting so hard against legislation to force them to do so?

Methinks they know peak oil has passed, and they are trying like hell to tie up as much possible oil producing land for as long as possible so they can make far more profits in the future.

And on the day that ExxonMobil announces world record earnings of almost $15 BILLION, or about $50 dollars in profit for every American, I find it insulting that McCain wants to reward this industry with a $4B more in tax cuts.

Why not take that $4B, or even more, in a windfall profits tax, and use it to rebuild everything from bridges to power plants, and create real jobs here, in America?

That's the Obama argument in a nutshell.

Sorry, my one Obama rant for the day...

Quimby said...

>> Quim, you haven't been paying attention.

Yes Bruce, your sports team is best.

Quimby said...

And you're right, I haven't been paying attention as politics disgust me. It is a false hope to look to for any "change".

Bewert said...

That's profit of $15 billion in roughly 90 days.

That's profit, after all drilling, transporting, refining, etc. expenses of $16,666,667 per day.

During a period when most American's had their ass handed to them.

And even better, if you divide that profit, after all expenses, into the 83,700 employees of ExxonMobil, you get a profit per employee per day of $1991.

Yep, that makes sense to me. Better give them another $4 BILLION to keep going. Otherwise they may not want to keep the company going. They might just stop selling us oil.

Sorry, Quim, but this shit just fucking pisses me off.

And if you think that there was no change between Reagan and Clinton...hmmm

There is huge change. Starting with tax codes. Starting with the estate tax being repealed back to only over $10 million, etc.

Bewert said...

Re: Yes Bruce, your sports team is best.

No, it's just incrementally better.

Anonymous said...

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Bewert said...

RE: Sally

Sorry, I'm the first born male, with three little sisters. I "get" some things. Perhaps not others.

Anonymous said...

Re: 1.) ALL permits, fees, ... for all time waived, ...

Proof? I haven't seen that.

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BP-PUSSSY YOU COULDn'T find the suterra letter I had to hand feed it to you for two weeks,

The fact that all fees & permits are forever waived is in the SUTERRa sales agreement,

Please bitch pussy read fucking read.

Anonymous said...

>> Quim, you haven't been paying attention.

Yes Bruce, your sports team is best.

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I used to think quim had a fucking brain, but now he's enamored by the pussy, does that make our quim a pussy??

Let's hope not, in the OR-BOMB-EO sense of 'hope'.

Anonymous said...

It is a false hope to look to for any "change".

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Thank YOU QUIM,

Soon BUSH will take off his dirty underwear, and OR-BOMB-EO will pick them up and wear them.

To love the pussy is to love Bush.

Anonymous said...

Homer is a 'pussy' that is the news of the week, all of Bend is going pussy.

Who would have guessed??

Anonymous said...

Did Bill friedman die? z-21 did an anouncement that he was rushed to the hospital yesterday.

tim said...

>>And if you think that there was no change between Reagan and Clinton...hmmm

The Prez can change the tone. The Prez can work with Congress to change the incentives.

But the problem with this blind love of one party of the other is it never works out. The party that sucks is the one that's been in too long, whichever one it is.

I worry that complaining and bitching and moaning about the other team's guy is just an excuse to avoid the population taking the blame for being idiots.

We're all lame idiots, Reps and Dems and Inds.

Why don't we stop worrying about the politicians and take a close look at ourselves? Try to be better people? And try to be nice, not asses, to the people rooting for the other teams.

Any zealot, to me, is just someone trying to blame the other side of human weakness in general. Someone who won't take any blame.

Anonymous said...

BP, From 'sales agreement' you can see below that permit fees have been waived for the project, and they have been given full access of JR to be used as a quarry, these two things are worth a ton of money.

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3. TERM OF PERMIT
The term o f this Permi t shall commence on October 4, 2008 (the "Commencement Date") and
shall terminate on completion o f the Work. The scope o f the Permitted Use may be expanded by
amendment hereto.
5. COMPENSATION TO BE PAID BY PERMITTEE
No permi t fee is required under the terms o f this Permit. Permittee may also remove fill material
from the Exhibit B property in the course o f its rough grading to use on the Property as fill
material free o f charge.

Anonymous said...

We're all lame idiots, Reps and Dems and Inds.

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I disagree TT, The pugs are 'homocidal killers', the dems are 'bambist idealists', and the indy's are aware of the Dems & Pugs mindset.

Why does any of this matter? Survival.

Bewert said...

Deschutes County Voter turnout as of 11/3/08 70.5%

Timmy, I'll try my best to turn the other cheek.

But it's hard. I'm a fighter at heart. Although I like to think the heart itself is tender and caring.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I can't wait until Wednesday when people will shut up about voting.

I HAVE A DREAM!

A dream that after today, when Obama's INEVITABLE VOCTORY is known & accepted, that we can MOVE ON.

I might even post a decent rant or two.

But I'll give the O-BOMBER haters a few days to have mental blowouts, and the lib's to do their grave dancing...

Anonymous said...

http://juniper-ridge-info.blogspot.com/2008/11/suterra-progress-pics.html

Note that its also KNIFE-RIVE

Yep. That's why I framed that pic that way...

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Knife River leases that Machine for $10k/mo from PAPE, PAPE owns that machine, PAPE owns resorts all over ORYGUN.

PAPE owns "INN@7thMTN", PAPE owns most of BEND city-council, if KNIFE-RIVER ( HAP-TAYLOR ) ain't kept busy with these multi-million dollar monthly city-projects, then they can't pay PAPE lease-payments for the machines.

The ENTIRE JR project is make works to keep money (BLOOD) flowing through HOLLERN->TAYLORNW->PAPE->KnifeRiver->...

Note that to date Knife-River is the non-bid sole excavator of JR.

To date it has cost an average $800k/acre to excavate JR, a make-works dream job to keep money flowing to PAPE during the bad times.

People can be laid off, but these machines like the 350D CATERPILLAR excavator pictured is a $1M machine, at 10% yr conventional lease that $100k/yr, or about $10k/mo machine cost. However these machines typically may only be used 5yr before PAPE auctions them.

Knife-River is a contractor, and they lease the equipment in the AREA from PAPE. Most likely the deal at JR is that KR must use PAPE equipment.

Anyway tens of millions of dollars of city debt is accrued to keep PAPE in business, which keeps "INN@7thMTN" debt paid, which keeps Friedmans HOA fee's flowing.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

What I can't even IMAGINE is a McPain victory.

Can you imagine the UPROAR? This country would go into Civil War. There would be mayhem, and killing in the streets.

I would be seriously scared to go outside.

Anonymous said...

HOMER PLEEEZE

http://bendeconomy2.informe.com/forum/index.php

Homer will you PLEEEEZE replace the bendeconomy with the above link, we're tired of BEBB deleting everything, and he is the one who outed you.

We voted last week, and everyone agreed you should replace that link with the above link, so we can have topical-debates long term on a subject, without having individual or total subject deletions at will.

BEBB is an asshole remove his site HOMER, pleeeze.

tim said...

>>But it's hard. I'm a fighter at heart. Although I like to think the heart itself is tender and caring.

I'd like to think that about you, too. But given that you use mean names for people who have different political beliefs than you do, I doubt it.

Note that Buster and Butter have names for everyone. You only have names for your political opponents.

I'd trust Buster and Butter's heart over yours.

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine the UPROAR? This country would go into Civil War. There would be mayhem, and killing in the streets.

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There will be something like that in BEND, OREO will win nationally, but here in Bend where W got over 50% in 2000, and almost 60% in 2004, I think PALIN will WIN in BEND, and there are going to be a lot of angry and pissed offed KILLER-PUGS in BEND, so your going to see your civil war, right here.

Anonymous said...

HOMER PLEEEZE

http://bendeconomy2.informe.com/forum/index.php

Homer will you PLEEEEZE replace the bendeconomy with the above link, we're tired of BEBB deleting everything, and he is the one who outed you.

We voted last week, and everyone agreed you should replace that link with the above link, so we can have topical-debates long term on a subject, without having individual or total subject deletions at will.

BEBB is an asshole remove his site HOMER, pleeeze.

It's all been DONE, and QUIMBY is going to be the administrator, he already has the account, and its all ready.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

HOMER,

Could you please replace the bendeconomy with the following site, so we can have subject debates that don't get deleted.

Remember BEBB is the asshole that outed you, its a waste of time you promoting his site, he deletes virtually everything that is posted.

Pleeeze ..

http://bendeconomy2.informe.com/forum/index.php


All done. You even said "please". How strange....

I took down Clive's counter cuz he said he is shutting down the server. Thanks for the good work Clive.

I'm leaving the link to BendBB2 up though. This board is about NON CENSORSHIP at all costs.

I know some deranged fucker "outted" me over there, and I VIGOROUSLY disagree with BendBB's censorship policy, and they fucking monitor IP's over there... by I leave the decision whether to visit the site to the reader. If I make the choice for you (in a way) by removing the link, I am as bad as them.

I won't censor shit. Never have, never will.

Anonymous said...

Two or three months ago the liberal 'atlantic monthly' did a ten page story on the OREO and said that everyone had projected all their needs on to him, that he had no possibility in hell of ever making anyone happy or accomplishing anything.

Within two years he'll be the most dispised prez in history, note HOOVER got blamed for the depression, and so will OREO.

The PUG's will take over the house&senate in two years, and OREO will be another CARTER.

I wish it weren't so, I really wish, but OREO is a 'more of the same'. If I start seeing him stuff his cabinet with new faces I might lean towards some belief, but what I see is BUSH people and old CARTER people being his mentors, that's NOT a good sign, and its NOT change.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

And I added Marge's blog too. Removed ORBlogs.com, as I think it has also gone down.

And BendBB is in the Position of Shame, Dead Last, for the aforementioned IP monitoring, and the well-meaning (I hope) but fundamentally flawed censorship.

And I hate to say it, but my own BendBB reading has gone to almost nil. I have to remember to go anon proxy, can't post... just sorta sucks.

Anonymous said...

I know some deranged fucker "outted" me over there, and I VIGOROUSLY disagree with BendBB's censorship policy, and they fucking monitor IP's over there...

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Sadly any admin on an informe.com board can see every posters IP's at will, never use a name on informe.com, because of this I'm setting up BEBB2 so that ONLY quim is admin, I'll only use it in non-login mode,

No other admin but RDC(BEBB same person ) could have would have traced your IP, the other people simply would have not done it.

I don't have interest in anyone's ID or IP, and I don't think QUIM has any interest either.

The biggest pain in the ass on BEBB is that we get these huge debates going on for months, and he just deletes it all at will, I'm really surprised he let 'bring it on tetherow' go as long as he has.

We all know that this FORUM is not good for long term TOPIC DEBATES.

What BEBB does is the PUG ( LIMBAUGH ) technique rather than debate, he just deletes ( cuts off ) those that disagree, and then declares himself the winner, I feel that PUG's are incapable of debate.

They despise free speech, unless its theres.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

>>But it's hard. I'm a fighter at heart. Although I like to think the heart itself is tender and caring.

Oh, Jebbus H Christ...

Only a Lib. We don't call you fuckers BLEEDING HEART for nut'n!

Anonymous said...

I know some deranged fucker "outted" me over there, and I VIGOROUSLY disagree with BendBB's censorship policy, and they fucking monitor IP's over there...

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Sadly any admin on an informe.com board can see every posters IP's at will, never use a name on informe.com, because of this I'm setting up BEBB2 so that ONLY quim is admin, I'll only use it in non-login mode,

No other admin but RDC(BEBB same person ) could have would have traced your IP, the other people simply would have not done it.

I don't have interest in anyone's ID or IP, and I don't think QUIM has any interest either.

The biggest pain in the ass on BEBB is that we get these huge debates going on for months, and he just deletes it all at will, I'm really surprised he let 'bring it on tetherow' go as long as he has.

We all know that this FORUM is not good for long term TOPIC DEBATES.

What BEBB does is the PUG ( LIMBAUGH ) technique rather than debate, he just deletes ( cuts off ) those that disagree, and then declares himself the winner, I feel that PUG's are incapable of debate.

They despise free speech, unless its theres.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I'd trust Buster and Butter's heart over yours.

Please Timmy. If you're gonna lump me in with someone, make it someone a bit more moderate, like Mussolini or Genghis Khan.

Anonymous said...

Folks remember on the informe ( bebb ) or bebb2, that the ADMIN can see your IP when your logged on as a user, thus its best to just post with a made up name at will, and never logon.

Right now the only admin is quim, I'll not ever be logging on as admin, so if you logon with fixed user name, then your IP will be visible to quim if he puts the software in the status mode.

Homer had a habit of going on BEBB with fixed name, and you could tell it was homer by his writing style, thus bebb was able to nail down his IP.

If anyone has any other questions please ask, if anyone else wants the 'god power' of quim, please ask, but I think we should all vote on this, as this should only go to those trusted,

Originally I assumed we would just give admin to all, but I now realize given how easy it is to log IP's on informe.com, that by having only one person, that we'll keep him honest.

The purpose of admin is that we need a super user that can at time to time, remove the porn and spam.

Anonymous said...

>>But it's hard. I'm a fighter at heart. Although I like to think the heart itself is tender and caring.

Only a Lib. We don't call you fuckers BLEEDING HEART for nut'n!

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Fighter, nobody has ever called BP a fighter, we call him the PUSSY.

'Fight' who are you fucking fighting? Your a REHO for OREO, YOUR a REHO for the DEM party, RISK what RISK do you take? Every fucking thing you right is kiss ass to all, your a chameleon, even over at duncs side I see your write and agree with RDC(BEBB) on most of his right-wing shit.

BP is running for office, he's building name recognition, like OREO BP is trying to make himself ALL things to ALL bends people Everyone loves BP.

The trouble is what the fuck does BP believe in?

What has BP done? He never says shit about HOLLER or BROOKS. He dumps city council output direct to his site without ever reading it, thats not fighting BP.

To fight you must take a side, and expose yourself, you have done neither.

Sorry to be hard on you little pussy, but I'm sure that everyone here will agree that your not a fighter because you have risked nothing.

Sure everyone at council now recognizes you as a reporter-blogger, but your very careful to only report the news, and never have any fucking opinion. Thus you have nothing to fear, you even suck up to all of them, even though they see you as a gad-fly.

They're no better or smarter than you, just fucking run for office. Get off your ass and put your name on the ballot, and do some real fighting.

Quimby said...

>>>> Yes Bruce, your sports team is best.

>> I used to think quim had a fucking brain, but now he's enamored by the pussy, does that make our quim a pussy??


Sarcasm Buster. Should have put some rolling eyes after my comment.

Quimby said...

>> given how easy it is to log IP's on informe.com

Since we can control where the link points to, can't we choose a different (free) forum publisher than informe? One that admins can't trace or see IPs?

Anonymous said...

Bruce, Why not go after this fish??

on jan 18th 2006 bend city council passed an ordinance about business licenses, as of 2008 city staff had no record of a business lic. for Diamond Parking. If you were given a downtown parking ticket in between then and now you may want to look into it. for real!!!!

Anonymous said...

Since we can control where the link points to, can't we choose a different (free) forum publisher than informe? One that admins can't trace or see IPs?

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Everyone seems to like, and know how to use this tool (informe), in all cases with bulletin-board type tools the ADMIN is going to get this power, thus I think it should ONLY be given to those who don't want it.

If somebody wants the waste the time, but honestly I think ALL bulletin-boards are trojan horses by their nature, hell informe.com is a demographic company, they use all this data to log interest in subjects by IP, and sell the data, ...

If its free, its going to have this shit.

So long as you don't create an account, and use real info, and a real email to your work, and be anonymous your ok, so long as we can trust our admin with our IP's, ...

What we had before was worse, BEBB was a control freak.

Anonymous said...

Sarcasm Buster. Should have put some rolling eyes after my comment.

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Not all anonymouses's are buser.

Indy's some days are pussy, someday are Kunts,...

Anonymous said...

It's tuesday, we're back picking on one another as normal for tuesday, and yet there was no sunday, ... :(

There a sad fucking face.

Anonymous said...

BP & HBM to me are the same.

The claim to be liberals but spend 1/2 their time apologizing for what they think or say.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to be tough on you BP, but you see yourself as some 'charles atlas' of Bend, and yes you go to the CC meetings and report, and thats good, but that isn't fighting.


Did you see the above notation I left on your request for evidence that Suterra doesn't have to pay permit fee's?? ( Waived ).

Just put your name on the ballot and run, after 2-3 cycles you'll be in.

Has anyone here confirmed the illness or death of Friedman??

Anonymous said...

Homer,

Marge's site is very good, and she has improved his/her computer skills immensely.

That said, why does 'she' require comments to be filtered like Dunc?

I think its better for people to be able to post anonymously, unless she is trying to keep her site child friendly.

Even BP hasn't done this to his site.

Anonymous said...

OR-BOMB-EO's top 'military advisor' is a Israeli HAWK, who would have guessed?? War in IRAN anyone??

The OREO will get us out of da Iraq, and into da IRAN.

Who would have guessed???

***

Top Obama advisor has long ties to conservatives

November 5, 2008:

With the 2008 presidential race nearly decided, pundits have begun to discuss in earnest what expected winner Barack Obama’s administration might look like. An important piece of evidence is Obama’s campaign team, which largely escaped the harsh scrutiny that his opponent’s lobbyist-laden team received.

Because of Obama’s relative inexperience on foreign policy, it is this part of his team that is getting much of the attention, and one adviser in particular —Dennis Ross, Bill Clinton’s Mideast envoy, whose record includes supporting the pro-Iraq War advocacy campaigns of the Project for the New American Century and serving as a consultant to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a bastion of Israel-centric policy thinking in Washington.

Generally regarded as a political moderate who has the ear and respect of both Republicans and Democrats, Ross, a former Soviet specialist, reportedly has told friends and foreign officials that he hopes to nab a very senior post in an Obama administration, one that at least covers Iran policy, if not the entire Greater Middle East.

But Ross’s record as a Mideast peacemaker during the Clinton years, longtime association with hawkish political factions, and track record promoting a hard line vis-à-vis Israel’s Arab neighbours have spurred concern that he would be a less-than-ideal pick for a Middle East portfolio in an Obama administration, which many presume he will be offered.

Something new
As one Clinton official, asked about Ross’s role in the Obama campaign, told Time magazine earlier this year, “If Obama wants to embody something new that can actually succeed, it’s not just a break from (George W Bush) Bush that he’s going to need, but a break from Clinton.”

Despite some successes as Clinton’s envoy crafting agreements between Israel and its neighbours, Ross’s efforts to negotiate an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict were a failure.

In his writings, Ross has emphasised Palestinian intransigence — in particular, Yasser Arafat’s — as being the cause for the failure, although he doesn’t exempt Israel from blame.

Other participants in those negotiations have pointed their finger at Ross. In their book Negotiating Arab-Israeli Peace, Daniel Kurtzer, who is also an Obama adviser, and Scott Lasensky cite a number of anonymous officials who were critical of Ross.

Said one Arab negotiator, “The perception always was that Dennis (Ross) started from the Israeli bottom line, that he listened to what Israel wanted and then tried to sell it to the Arabs...He was never looked at...as a trusted world figure or as an honest broker.”

Likewise, a former Clinton administration representative told the authors, “By the end, the Palestinians didn’t fully trust Dennis...(T]hey) thought he was tilted too much towards the Israelis.”

Ross got his start in high-level policy-making working under Paul Wolfowitz in the Pentagon during the Carter administration. Wolfowitz — who is better known for his role pushing the Iraq War after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and for his controversial tenure as World Bank head — tasked Ross with helping draft a study assessing threats to US interests in the Persian Gulf.

The 1979 study, titled the Limited Contingency Study, concluded that aside from the Soviet Union, a key threat to the region’s oil fields was Iraq.

In his 2004 book the Rise of the Vulcans, James Mann writes that this study, the Pentagon’s “first extensive examination of the need for the United States to defend the Persian Gulf,” would go on to “play a groundbreaking role in changing American military policy toward the Persian Gulf over the coming decades.”

When Wolfowitz was tapped to head the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff after the election of Ronald Reagan, he included Ross in his team of assistants, which, according to Mann, would go on to become, over the next two decades, “the heart of a new neoconservative network within the foreign policy bureaucracy.”

Other Wolfowitz team members from that time included I Lewis Libby, a Washington lawyer who later became notorious as the disgraced former chief aide to Vice -President Dick Cheney; James Roche, President George W Bush’s Air Force Secretary who resigned after being implicated in the Boeing tanker leasing scandal; Zalmay Khalilzad, US Ambassador to the UN and post-invasion ambassador to Iraq; Alan Keyes, the perennial Republican presidential candidate; and Francis Fukuyama, the “end of history” theorist and erstwhile neoconservative ally who turned against the faction after the Iraq invasion.

Ross’s close association with neoconservatives has deepened over the years, becoming especially pronounced in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Ross served as the co-convenor of WINEP’s Presidential Task Force on the Future of US-Israel Relations, which issued the June 2008 report “Strengthening the Partnership: How to Deepen US-Israel Cooperation on the Iranian Nuclear Challenge”.

The report was signed by a number of former Democratic and Republican policy-makers, as well as by several neoconservatives, including former CIA director James Woolsey and Vin Weber, a former Republican congressman who co-founded the rightist pressure group Empower America.

Interestingly, several other advisers to the Obama campaign added their names to the document — Anthony Lake, Susan Rice, and Richard Clarke. Ross also helped produce the 2008 report “Meeting the Challenge: US Policy Toward Iranian Nuclear Development”, which was published by a study group convened by the Bipartisan Policy Centre, a group led by several former legislators.

The lead drafter of the report was AEI’s Michael Rubin, an outspoken proponent of US military intervention in the Middle East. Other participants included hawkish arms control analyst Henry Sokolski; Michael Makovsky, a former aide to Douglas Feith; Stephen Rademaker, who worked under former UN Ambassador John Bolton in the State Department; and the neoconservative Hudson Institute director, Kenneth Weinstein.

The report argues that despite Iran’s assurances to the contrary, its nuclear programme aims to develop nuclear weapons and is thus a threat to “US and global security, regional stability, and the international nonproliferation regime,” a conclusion that stands in contrast to the CIA’s November 2007 National Intelligence Estimate, which found that Iran had ceased its nuclear weapons programme.

Like the WINEP study, the report argues that “Cold War deterrence” is not persuasive in the context of Iran’s programme, due in large measure to the “Islamic Republic’s extremist ideology”.

Even a peaceful indigenous uranium enrichment programme would place the entire Middle East region “under a cloud of ambiguity given uncertain Iranian capacities and intentions.”

Anonymous said...

“If Obama wants to embody something new that can actually succeed, it’s not just a break from (George W Bush) Bush that he’s going to need, but a break from Clinton.”


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DEJA-VU, its never going to be OVER, homer things its going to be over wednesday, hell its only begun.

Anonymous said...

>>>Marge's site is very good, and she has improved his/her computer skills immensely.

That said, why does 'she' require comments to be filtered like Dunc?<<<
I didn't realize there were any filters. Guess my computer skills aren't that great. I'll look into it. I think the Benddenial is becoming the Bendpanic. Several worker bees that have been here for 30+ that I have talked to lately have said "yea, it looks like 1980 all over again. I've tucked in everything that I can to stay in business." The oldies know how to trim back, the HELOC ATM'ers will suffer the most. They will become zoombies. BBB's

Anonymous said...

I think I fixed it. The registerd users button was checked. So it is open to all now. Guess I shoud post something.

Anonymous said...

On the subject of 'cavers' & men with Balls, and 'Fighters'.

Bruce made the assertion today, but has HE ever put 2 & 2 Together ever??

Homer has balls with his 'Developers may have died from bank mob hits', it made state news.

Now to the pussy, the pussy yesterday post a picture of PAPE owned heavy-equipment out doing taxpayer funded work for Suterra at the JR site.

Note a true muck-racker would put 2+2 together and know that Johnson & Friedman HOA service at 'INN@7th' has been protected BIG-TIME by PAPE lawyers.

Thus an astute taxpayer would KNOW that the fucking reason that PAPE rigs were out there collecting their $4M for the Suterra DIG is that the city has a way of taking care of those that take care of them.

The pussy would never see shit like this cuz, he just reports what he see's, and believes people want to hear.

Big difference than fighter, caver, and pussy.

Lastly, what about the rumor today about our councilman Friedman at the ctr of all this fucking SUTERRA 'fast track' bullshit???? We heard today that Friedman may have died?? Another fucking mob hit??

Anonymous said...

A true 'fighter' with balls, would know that the reason that PAPE equipment was rolling to get $4M for equipment lease payments a month before the property was even fucking formally bought was that the people who run this fucking town made sure that PAPE is kept with a cash-flow, courtesy of the BEND taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

The pussy thinks that its important that Suterra's work was started 10/4/08 before Suterra even bought the property 10/22/08, please tell us bruce, why you think this is important?

You write your fucking material as third party from Mars, dis-interested, tell us fucking why this is important use your fucking brain, rather than just 'reporting' the fucking obvious.

Like a child who says 'daddy I saw a tractor today at JR' big fucking deal BP, why is this important??

'Daddy I took two pictures and posted them on the internet', 'Daddy this makes me a fighter?'

Quimby said...

RE Friedman:

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/billfriedman

&

KTVZ

tim said...

Complications after back surgery. That sucks.

I'm hoping he gets well soon so he can have Thanksgiving with his family.

Anonymous said...

Homer,

Bend might be 'closed for business', but the city of bend is spending DEBT money on behalf of the richest oregonians as if the bendbubble were 2005.

Pape, Knife-River, Hollern, Bulletin, Hap-Taylor ( TaylorNW ), all our favorite friends of the area, are reaping millions on deals.

Pape: All equipment used in the region is leased from PAPE of Eugene, and old logging company that owns much of the State.

Knife-River: Huge fucking excavation contractor out of the mid-west that get the exclusive non-bid on all Bend work.

TaylorNW: Sold much of their ops to Knife-River. Sold a fucking building with a little land in Boyd Acres to city of Bend for $4M.

Bulletin: Free land from HOLLERN just netted them $5M city money.

Bend may be 'out of business' homee, but its the best time in 20 years to be a BOSS HOGG.

Anonymous said...

Thanks TT, as you all know and I'll remind you folks BEND has the highest rate of un-needed back-surgery in the country, why pray-tell?

Cuz there are too many surgeons who came to BEND to play, and too little work.

Second opinions are essential, and anybody in the insurance biz knows to get your second from outside of BEND.

Never have back-surgery in BEND.

Enough Said.

"Bend isn't just about big-dicks, big-tits, and fat removal, Bend is about back surgery".

Anonymous said...

OK, So all the little yellow toys out at JR are owned by PAPE, but who in the fuck is PAPE? We'll besides being the bigging fucking heavy equipment provider in the State (besides HALTON), they also own the Cessna flight service biz, ... Small fucking World?? Remember its BEND.

INN@7thMTN ain't the only resort these folks own lots of ORYGUN resorts.

***

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PAPÉ COMPANIES

Click on the links below to learn more about each of the Papé Group of Companies.

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Anonymous said...

If Obama wants to embody something new that can actually succeed, it’s not just a break from (George W Bush) Bush that he’s going to need, but a break from Clinton.”


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DEJA-VU, its never going to be OVER, homer things its going to be over wednesday, hell its only begun.

****

Just wait until the media decides that they need to keep their jobs and turn on their own. Kumbaya will only get you so far. I can't wait to see what type of scandals come out this time.

Anonymous said...

Bruce is going to have a lot of alcohol and sex tonight!

Bewert said...

You folks have no idea how much crime we really have...

Got some catching up to do. First day on the grand jury and we ended up going through cases on hour and a half longer than scheduled.

Bewert said...

Re:
Homer has balls with his 'Developers may have died from bank mob hits', it made state news.

It's easy to swing your dick when nobody knows your name.

Buster, I don't claim things I'm not sure of. You do. I'm not anonymouse. You are.

Big difference.

Bewert said...

Re: Note that Buster and Butter have names for everyone. You only have names for your political opponents.

Hmmm...I thought I pretty much just used the generally accepted names.

Bewert said...

The biggest difference is the composition of the crowds. Really striking.

Bewert said...

Re: Only a Lib. We don't call you fuckers BLEEDING HEART for nut'n!

Proud fuckers at this moment ;)

Butter, you would have been proud of me sending so many into the justice system today.

Bewert said...

Re: fighter...

Anyone of you want to go into a room where everyone knows who you are, and they don't much like you, and you are the only one there that they know is going to tell all, then you can bitch about whether I'm a fighter or not.

Hell, nobody here even has the guts to use their own name.

Bewert said...

Actually, that last comment may have been wrong. I think Timmy is using his own name. And Dunc does, but he left.

Bewert said...

Re: The pussy thinks that its important that Suterra's work was started 10/4/08 before Suterra even bought the property 10/22/08, please tell us bruce, why you think this is important?

It's interesting that city staff was so determined to get this through that they OKed the excavation before even officially presenting it to the Council. Although what was presented in Exec Session is something we do not know.

Bewert said...

RE: ven BP hasn't done this to his site.

Nope, no censorship other than porn spam removal as needed.

Bewert said...

RE: He never says shit about HOLLER or BROOKS. He dumps city council output direct to his site without ever reading it, thats not fighting BP.

I don't know much about Hollern or Brooks, other than your rants, and I don't take those as proof of anything. Sorry.

#2, bullshit. I read more of it than you do. You told me to read something I just had fucking posted about five posts earlier, with excerpts that I thought were relevant. No, I don't remember the details of everything all the time, like the fact that the Entry Permit was part of the Suterra PSA, I thought it was separate. Such is life. I have a lot of other shit to deal with as well. This is basically my hobby.

Anonymous said...

O has broken away from anyone in the past. With the numbers that voted for him we have at least a good amount of sheeple that may play by his rules for awhile and not riot. Interesting days to come. Still need to suck it in though.

Anonymous said...

das bp me puss can albe me puss,now dat oreo prez wat dil bp tlk a bit?

Bewert said...

Re: Diamond Parking

http://www.ci.bend.or.us/business_license/docs/Business_License_Quarterly_Report_Oct_2008.pdf

See page 141 in Acrobat, actual page number is 177. Diamond Parking LLC is listed as licensed at 61 NW Oregon Ave.

See Buster, that's why I don't take your rants as truth until otherwise proven.

Anonymous said...

BP come from UTAH one year ago, and declares himself king of BEND BLOGGERS, and expert on Bend.

Mormons control most of central oregon, and eastern oregon, but why do they want to control the blogosphere?

BP don't know shit about who anybody is, only in BEND, can a guy like kuratek walk into to town, and have a check cut for $2.5M within 3 yrs of being here part-time, BP see's this and assumes he can do the same walk, thus his obsession with Kuratek, and no other obsession.

Anonymous said...

Buster didn't post the diamond question, take that up with the poster.

Anonymous said...

Now that OREO won, is BP happy?? Hell no, what does he want?

Nobody knows.

Anybody but Bush Wins!

Bewert said...

Re: I don't take a position.

Hmmm...I think the Council would disagree with you about that, especially in regard to Exec Sessions.

And yes, that subject will be revisited in the very near future.

Bewert said...

Deschutes County

Last Updated: 11/04/08 General Election RUN TIME:08:41 PM November 4, 2008
35 of 52 Precincts Counted
Voter Turnout: 37,524 of 92,483 (40.57%)

United States President & Vice President

Ralph Nader 296 (0.79%)
Cynthia McKinney 64 (0.17%)
John McCain 17,147 (45.92%)
Bob Barr 137 (0.37%)
Chuck Baldwin 97 (0.26%)
Barack Obama 19,377 (51.9%)
WRITE-IN 220 (0.59%)

Total: 37,338
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 174

Anonymous said...

So now the game changes, no longer will we blame 'W' for all that wreaks, now we can blame the OREO for all.

I remember 2+ years ago here bashing BUSH, and people got angry, and I reminded them that he was our prez, and ergo responsible.

Now OREO will be our prez, and folks will get angry when we diss him for his vague, general, bullshit. But at least he's not Bush/Cheney.

That said BIDEN is more a stooge of Israel than Bush/Cheney, and the OREO's MIL advisors are PRO Israel.

Thus in the coming months the OREO will become the OR-BOMB-EO, as I have predicted all along.

Bewert said...

Looks like two of the four developer backed Council candidates are in as well. Eckman and Eager. Gramlich and Clinton are retained.

Bus went down.

Anonymous said...

John McCain 17,147 (45.92%)

Barack Obama 19,377 (51.9%)


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I was wrong, I really thought that the majority of Bend would vote for 'W' a third time.

We need to get the numbers for Bend, obviously there are lots of liberals in the sparse areas of the county.

Bend is still a majority of Pug's.

Good to see the DEM's win in Deschutes by a narrow majority, this must be a first since Kennedy?

Now the pussy is going to tell us the reason for the 6% towards OREO is cuz of the Pussy's 'fight' for the OREO!

Anonymous said...

Dumb fucking BP pussy, you still haven't told us why the early permit on 10/4/2008 is important?

Tell us, you never say anything that isn't in public record. Do you have a fucking opinion, or are you just a paid parrot??

Bewert said...

My obsession is JR and the budget. It's what caught my attention. Nothing more or less.

Anonymous said...

Jeebus-xmas pussy, only 40% voted? Sounds like most Deschutes pugs just didn't bother. 35 of 52 counted, these numbers are too early.

**

Uncertified Results
Last Updated: 11/04/08 General Election RUN TIME:08:41 PM November 4, 2008
35 of 52 Precincts Counted
Voter Turnout: 37,524 of 92,483 (40.57%)

United States President & Vice President
Vote for 1
Ralph Nader 296 (0.79%)
Cynthia McKinney 64 (0.17%)
John McCain 17,147 (45.92%)
Bob Barr 137 (0.37%)
Chuck Baldwin 97 (0.26%)
Current Race Leader Barack Obama 19,377 (51.9%)

Anonymous said...

My obsession is JR and the budget.

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Your obsession is KURATEK. You obsession with the budget is your cut. Like all in Bend, you want a piece of the stolen pie.

Anonymous said...

JR would normally have died, now it has become a channel to fund the richest people in Oregon & California with taxpayer debt.

Long live JR, may it feed the boss-hoggs until Bend implodes.

Anonymous said...

City Council Position 1 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Peter Gramlich 7,509 (52.12%)
Tom Greene 6,831 (47.41%)
WRITE-IN 68 (0.47%)

Total: 14,408
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 4,959

TOTALS WITH 15 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 78.95%


City Council Position 2 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Jeff Eager 6,371 (44.13%)
Jodie Barram 6,273 (43.45%)
Dallas Brown 1,733 (12%)
WRITE-IN 59 (0.41%)

Total: 14,436
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 4,928

TOTALS WITH 15 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 78.95%


City Council Position 3 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Kathie Eckman 7,900 (53.91%)
Linda Johnson 6,670 (45.52%)
WRITE-IN 83 (0.57%)

Total: 14,653
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 4,713

TOTALS WITH 15 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 78.95%


City Council Position 4 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Don Leonard 4,317 (31.46%)
Current Race Leader Jim Clinton 9,272 (67.57%)
WRITE-IN 134 (0.98%)

Total: 13,723
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 5,641

TOTALS WITH 15 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 78.95%

Bewert said...

Re: Tell us, you never say anything that isn't in public record. Do you have a fucking opinion, or are you just a paid parrot??

On that I think the city staff wanted that to go through so bad that they secretly talked about Suterra in Exec Session, and had the OK to go ahead with the Entry Permit.

But I can't prove it, so I don't claim it. I'm trying my best to stay with the truth.

As for my opinion, I'm not as inflamed as you are. But I have stated things like "It might be an even better idea to try to really work with those who control highways 97 and 20, rather than continuing to push a homegrown solution against ever more fierce resistance." and "So the Council is saying "we like screwing over our own citizens, would you please do so, too!" "

I'm just not an anonymouse who can rant and rave at will. I would rather be taken a little bit seriously.

Bewert said...

Re: Your obsession is KURATEK. You obsession with the budget is your cut. Like all in Bend, you want a piece of the stolen pie.

Ummm...please tell me how I plan to get that?

Kuratek is an obsession because he's collected $2.7M of our money, and stands to collect almost a million more. That truly fucking pisses me off.

I simply don't want to live in a place that can't afford to hire cops or patch it's potholes. I like this area.

And we are fast becoming such a place.

Anonymous said...

DUMB FUCKING PUSSY why is the early work done for Suterra important?

Do you have a fucking opinion PUSSY, or do you just take pictures of yellow toys, and let your readers make their own opinion??

You seem obsessed with the early start of 10/4, and the actual purchase of 10/22, but like always, you write like dunc and leave it to the reader to decide what it all means.

So fucking profound and obtuse, it must be a pussy thing.

Anonymous said...

Our Money?

Pussy, KURATEK has been in Bend way fucking longer than you.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that PUG bitch Telfer won, goes to show you Bend is PUG, or the DEM was a geek.

Bewert said...

It's like your sole-source KR rant. If you look you can see that KR and several others all bid on the LS infrastructure project. KR was the low bidder.

See www.ci.bend.or.us/city_hall/meeting_minutes/docs/bid_results_cooley.pdf

Bewert said...

Why do I seem obsessed about the early Suterra work? You are the one who keeps ranting about it.

Anonymous said...

BP, why is the fact that Suterras KR/PAPE work started 10/4 rather than 10/22 important, I have asked ten times and you still haven't told us.

Anonymous said...

The more questions you ask the PUSSY the more he appears to be a flack for city hall, HOLLERN, and Knife-River.

He says's he's a fighter. He came to Bend to save Bend.

But in his one year on this board he accomplished one single thing. He found the les-schwab sales agreement for JR, he has never accomplished one single other thing.

He takes the city-hall documents and posts them all over, and never reads them. Always claiming what they actually say.

It's probably a good thing the pussy didn't run for office, as for the first time in his life he would have to had put up or shut up, and he might have had to actually work.

Don't worry, its never going to happen.

The 'PUSSY PATTERN' is clear, whether it be run for office, or executive-session complaint, the pattern is 'talk'.

Anonymous said...

Well the following from ROLL-CALL, the best political insider paper in the country. "The Republicans didn't do any worse than they expected, it could have been a lot worse".

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Republicans Avoid Worst-Case Scenario
By David M. Drucker
Roll Call Staff
November 5, 2008, 7:26 a.m.



In a world defined by carefully honed expectations, Congressional Republicans didn’t have too bad of an election night.

In a world defined by cold, hard math, Tuesday’s House and Senate races weren’t too kind — particularly given President-elect Obama’s resounding election over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

Senate Republicans, who had faced the possibility of losing nine seats and slipping into a minority too weak to even mount a filibuster, appear to have avoided that worst-case scenario.

Early Wednesday morning, Senate Republicans found themselves down five seats, with three races still too close to call.

House Republicans had suffered about 20 losses by the early morning, with the prospect of several more that might not go their way.

Between this cycle and the 2006 elections, that means the GOP is down about 50 seats from its modern high-water mark in 2004 of 232 Republicans.

But with a GOP gain of four seats, including the surprise ousting of Rep. Don Cazayoux (D-La.), predictions of a 30-seat or better net pickup for Democrats do not appear to have come to fruition.

In addition to dumping Cazayoux, Republicans managed to oust Democratic Reps. Nancy Boyda (Kan.), Nick Lampson (Texas) and Tim Mahoney (Fla.).

Among the prizes scored by Democrats after years of trying — and failing — were businessman Jim Himes’ defeat of Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.), former Senate aide Betsy Markey’s win over Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.) and the flipping of New Mexico’s 1st district — an open seat in which former Albuquerque Councilor Martin Heinrich (D) beat Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White (R).

In the Senate, Republicans are still in contention in Alaska, Minnesota and Oregon, as ballot returns continued to trickle in. In fact, GOP Sens. Norm Coleman (Minn.), Gordon Smith (Ore.) and Ted Stevens (Alaska) all held narrow leads early Wednesday morning.

In Georgia, Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) appeared certain to win, with the question now being whether he can avoid a runoff. Chambliss must win over 50 percent of the vote to avoid a Dec. 2 runoff, and was hovering just above 50 percent with nearly all precincts reporting. His Democratic opponent, former state Rep. Jim Martin, was stuck at 46 percent.

If Democrats do pick up the Alaska, Minnesota and Oregon Senate seats, their total take in this year’s elections will rise to eight, a figure that would alter the breakdown of the Senate from a narrow 51-49 Democratic majority to 59-41, the type of majority not seen since the aftermath of Watergate.

As it stood at 7 a.m., Democrats were holding a 56-44 majority, courtesy of state Sen. Kay Hagan’s ousting of Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.), former Gov. Jeanne Shaheen’s victory over Sen. John Sununu (R-N.H.), Rep. Mark Udall’s (Colo.) win over former Rep. Bob Schaffer (R), former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner’s defeat of ex-Gov. Jim Gilmore (R) and Rep. Tom Udall’s (N.M.) triumph over Rep. Steve Pearce (R).

Among the big sighs of relief for Senate Republicans was the victory by their leader, as Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) held off a fierce challenge from health care executive Bruce Lunsford (D)

Anonymous said...

It's like your sole-source KR rant. If you look you can see that KR and several others all bid on the LS infrastructure project. KR was the low bidder.

See www.ci.bend.or.us/city_hall/meeting_minutes/docs/bid_results_cooley.pdf

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Typical pussy, this doc only has to do with the INGRESS at the Les-Schwab 2007 campussy to Cooley road. Not a fucking thing to do with how Knife-River got the $4M Suterra job on 10/4/2008.

Typical pussy, post a doc, and assume cuz he doesn't read, nobody else reads.

Knife-River can under-bid any local boy, KR is one of the biggest excavation contractors in the country.

What I said is that the reason these JR public works projects exist is to keep city taxpayer DEBT a cash flowing to these contractors so they can pay their heavy-equipment lease costs to PAPE.

Anonymous said...

First Black President ( BFD ). Obama ain't black.

Now what?

The morning after for the DEM's, now what?

Anonymous said...

Russia this AM is suggesting that the USA is starting a new cold war, and ballistic arms race in Europe corridor.

Anonymous said...

DEM win in Deschutes was pretty fucking slim, with slightly over 1/2 even voting its safe to say most people in the region felt that it wasn't even worth their effort. They're fucked, and they didn't vote.


Had more PUG's not been so fucking despondent about their liar-in-chief, perhaps they would have gone out and voted, or I should say mailed in their ballot, my guess is they couldn't part with the 42 cent stamp.

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http://www.deschutes.org/electionresults/
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Uncertified Results
Last Updated: 11/05/08 General Election RUN TIME:12:15 AM November 4, 2008
49 of 52 Precincts Counted
Voter Turnout: 52,460 of 92,483 (56.72%)

United States President & Vice President
Vote for 1
Ralph Nader 415 (0.8%)
Cynthia McKinney 88 (0.17%)
John McCain 24,932 (47.81%)
Bob Barr 183 (0.35%)
Chuck Baldwin 152 (0.29%)
Current Race Leader Barack Obama 26,072 (50%)
WRITE-IN 305 (0.58%)

Total: 52,147
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 286

TOTALS WITH 49 OF 52 PRECINCTS COUNTED 94.23%

Anonymous said...

Smith wipes Merke's ass clean with a wide margin.

Gordon H Smith (REP) 26,391 (52.55%)
Jeff Merkley (DEM) 20,924 (41.66%)

Anonymous said...

State Senator 27TH DISTRICT
Vote for 1
Maren Lundgren (DEM) 19,317 (41.61%)
Current Race Leader Chris Telfer (REP) 27,040 (58.24%)

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PUG bitch of BEND slides with a fucking enormous spread.

58% just like Bend voted for Bush-Cheney, here the pugs fucking voted like BEND.

Anonymous said...

The pussy's 'al Frankenstein' got fucking hosed.

The Wall Street Journal


Nov. 5, 2008

Minnesota Republican Norm Coleman won re-election to the U.S. Senate, fending off a challenge from former comedian and talk radio host Al Franken, according to the Associated Press.

Anonymous said...

Then there are our resident REHO's, any surprise here??

City Council Position 1 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Peter Gramlich 8,130 (51.89%)
Tom Greene 7,467 (47.66%)
WRITE-IN 71 (0.45%)

Total: 15,668
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 5,416

TOTALS WITH 16 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 84.21%


City Council Position 2 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Jeff Eager 6,839 (43.55%)
Jodie Barram 6,837 (43.54%)
Dallas Brown 1,965 (12.51%)
WRITE-IN 62 (0.39%)

Total: 15,703
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 5,377

TOTALS WITH 16 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 84.21%


City Council Position 3 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Current Race Leader Kathie Eckman 8,541 (53.56%)
Linda Johnson 7,316 (45.88%)
WRITE-IN 89 (0.56%)

Total: 15,946
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 5,136

TOTALS WITH 16 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 84.21%


City Council Position 4 CITY OF BEND
Vote for 1
Don Leonard 4,673 (31.36%)
Current Race Leader Jim Clinton 10,087 (67.7%)
WRITE-IN 139 (0.93%)

Total: 14,899
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 6,181

TOTALS WITH 16 OF 19 PRECINCTS COUNTED 84.21%

Anonymous said...

Obama's New Deal No Better Than Old One
By Michael Barone

With victory in sight, Barack Obama's supporters are predicting that he will give us a new New Deal. To see what that might mean, let's look back on the original New Deal.

The purpose of New Deal legislation was not, as commonly thought, to restore economic growth but rather to freeze the economy in place at a time when it seemed locked in a downward spiral. Its central program, the National Recovery Administration (NRA), created 700 industry councils for firms and unions to set minimum prices and wages. The Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA), the ancestor of our farm bills, limited production to hold up prices. Unionization, encouraged by NRA and the 1935 Wagner Act, was meant to keep workers in jobs that the unemployed would have taken at lower pay.

These policies did break the downward spiral. But, as Amity Shlaes points out in "The Forgotten Man," they failed to restore growth.

Double-digit unemployment continued throughout the 1930s; despite population growth, the economy failed to rebound to 1920s production levels. High taxes on high earners (a Herbert Hoover as well as Franklin Roosevelt policy) financed welfare payments ("spread the wealth around") but reduced investment and growth.

The political verdict was negative. New Dealers were whalloped in the 1938 off-year elections. Polls show that Democrats would have lost the White House in 1940 if that election had been decided on domestic issues. But war loomed. France fell in June 1940, just before America's two national party conventions, and Adolf Hitler and his then-ally Joseph Stalin controlled most of the landmass of Eurasia. Republicans did not have an experienced leader in this world crisis -- Democrats did: Franklin Roosevelt, who cynically engineered his nomination for a third term and then swept to victory on foreign policy.

Roosevelt had thought that economic expansion was a thing of the past. But World War II stimulated huge growth in the American economy. New Deal welfare programs like the Civilian Conservation Corps and the Works Progress Administration (WPA) arts program were terminated. Wartime domestic policies were growth stimulators. Veterans Administration home mortgage loans, building on the FHA mortgage program, encouraged home-buying and after the war converted a nation of renters to a nation of homeowners. The G.I. Bill of Rights subsidized higher education for millions of veterans.

These programs stimulated growth partly because they required real effort -- down payments, military service -- from beneficiaries before they received aid.

The postwar Republican Congress elected in 1946 dismantled some New Deal anti-growth policies. Labor unions' powers to strike were sharply restricted. Tax rates were lowered, and wage and price controls were dismantled. Many hold-the-economy-in-place policies were retained until the deregulation of the 1970s and 1980s. But the New Deal was transformed sufficiently to permit buoyant economic growth for two decades after the war.

Obama seems determined to follow policies better suited to freezing the economy in place than to promoting economic growth. Higher taxes on high earners, for one. He told Charlie Gibson he would raise capital gains taxes even if that reduced revenue: less wealth to spread around, but at least the rich wouldn't have it -- reminiscent of the Puritan sumptuary laws that prohibited the wearing of silk. Moves toward protectionism like Hoover's (Roosevelt had the good sense to promote free trade). National health insurance that threatens to lead to rationing and to stifle innovation. Promoting unionization by abolishing secret ballot union elections.

The impulse to social engineering is unmistakable. Government officials will allocate resources, redistribute income, and ration good and services. Use government stakes in banks, insurance companies and Detroit auto manufacturers to maintain the position of those already in place, at the cost of preventing the emergence of new enterprises that might have been spawned by the capital being allocated.

Social engineering of course is far easier when you are dealing with an economy that is frozen in place. It's harder when you have to deal with the creative destruction, the emergence of new firms and businesses, and the decline of old ones, which as Joseph Schumpeter taught is the inevitable consequence of economic growth.

Roosevelt in the 1930s had some extremely competent social engineers, like Harry Hopkins, Harold Ickes and Fiorello LaGuardia, who could enroll 750,000 people on welfare in three weeks and build an airport in less than a year. But even they could not spur the economic growth produced by utterly unknown and unconnected people, as Warren Buffett and Bill Gates were in 1970.

When financial crisis looms, there is an impulse to freeze everything in place and accept what is as the best there can ever be: Barack Obama's new New Deal. The history of the old New Deal suggests this is not a sustainable approach in the long run.

Anonymous said...

"The pussy's 'al Frankenstein' got fucking hosed."

Oh come on. I'm sure even Bruce didn't think that would work. If you're going to try Saturday Night Alumni, get a heavy hitter, like Chevy Chase or Bill Murray.

Phil Hartman would have been a more viable choice and he's dead!

tim said...

>>Bus went down

I wonder why. Obviously we need a good public transportation system. Did we, collectively, just decide now's the wrong time? Or has it been such a farce that we don't trust the gov't we have to implement anything?

tim said...

>>Cynthia McKinney 88 (0.17%)

Holy cow. Now I'm going to be walking around town wondering if one of those 88 people is near me, about to do something as crazy as voting for Cynthia McKinney.

tim said...

>>We need to get the numbers for Bend, obviously there are lots of liberals in the sparse areas of the county.

I don't think you're right. The rural guys are more conservative.

tim said...

Buster, admit you're wrong. Bend voted Obama, not McCain. Must be hard to admit you're wrong when you're right 99.9% of the time, eh? :-)

Anonymous said...

>Buster, admit you're wrong. Bend voted Obama, not McCain. Must be hard to admit you're wrong when you're right 99.9% of the time, eh? :-)

Fuckhead is right about 12.7% of the time, and won't ever admit when he's wrong. He'll just keep changing what he claims he said until it's close to right. It's sad.

LavaBear said...

Interesting analysis of the vote.

Anonymous said...

We need to get the numbers for Bend, obviously there are lots of liberals in the sparse areas of the county.

The sparse areas of the county are Pug. Redmond is Pug. Sisters is Pug. LaPine is Pug. Alfalfa is Pug. So.... who voted dem? Bend, in big numbers. Bend has seen the light.

With the numbers from the last elections I would think that Bend (being the most liberal of Deschutes County) may have slightly gone for Kerry and Gore, while the rest of the county went Bush. I can't find anything that breaks it down to city though so it's all speculation. However, it's speculation taking the opposing view of Buster's speculation so it's probably right.

Quimby said...

>> I can't find anything that breaks it down to city though so it's all speculation.

I speculate its as simple as city folk moving to the country.

Bewert said...

Re: Or has it been such a farce that we don't trust the gov't we have to implement anything?

Even my wife was asking what the fuck we're they planning to hire so much management for.

We need a bus system, and the whole thing has been a farce from start to now. I held my nose and voted for it. It was probably the toughest decision I made.

Bewert said...

Re: Gordo/Merkely

I just did the math, projecting Multnomah (50% counted) and Lane (60% counted) onto the current numbers CNN shows. Merkley should win by about 80,0000 to 120,000 votes.

Bewert said...

Re: Knife River extending 18th to Suterra.

Buster, the bids have been let but haven't been or just were received. I anticipate we will learn about them at the JRMB meeting on Nov. 10th.

Now there may have been a quid pro quo about Suterra using KR in return for early access, but I'm sure no one will fess up to anything like that.

Anonymous said...

KBND 101 says the world is ENDING.

DESCHUTES OBAMA REACT

A Barack Obama victory is welcomed by many in Central Oregon, but is disappointing to others. Deschutes County Democratic Party Chairman Jim Thomasson believes there are better times ahead. But the Central Oregon Republican faithful predict grim times ahead.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any real estate for sale? I've heard Bend is beautiful. I am from California.

Anonymous said...

LavaBear said...

Interesting analysis of the vote.

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It's interesting, but doesn't have the fine grain detail of what the nut-cases in BEND are doing.

Perhaps somebody here knows how to get the county to show us the vote by a smaller grain than county. My bet is still that the majority of BEND voted for Palin. Last time I looked it was within 1% for county.

I find the burb's around Sisters far more liberal than Bend. Those country folk, that bought all those $1M hobby-farms were trying to get away from the city.

Those that came to Bend from 1998 to present were all Calis from Suburbs of Sacram, & Orange-Co ( Pug Country ) they came to Bend to get rich, and like the 'lava' analysis shows those kind of folks vote PUG.

Anonymous said...

I don't think you're right. The rural guys are more conservative.

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There is old rural, the people who built this region on cattle & timber.

Then there is the 'new' rural, and they all be liberal 'atlantic monthly' NY-TIME(s).

The old rural has been a minority for a long time, agreed Conservative.

My feeling as someone who has been around here forever is that the post 1998 Cali crowd is the cause of the Nitwit PUG swing. This Cali Greed comes from So-CAL & Sacramento, this home flipping subdivision STD mania is pure Cali, and PUG CALI.

Look at the Bledsoe and all these cigar clubs, there was never any of this shit before the bubble.

Those rural 'conservatives' are a very small minority, your thinking of the hicks all over the region that lived in single-wide trailers before their trailer-parks got converted to STD's in the last ten years, those were never rural land owners, just red-neck right-wing hicks, and by defn cuz of criminal record don't vote.

Note also for the county, that still only 1/2 of eligible voters voted, my feeling is a lot of the people that didn't show up were BUSH people, they just didn't feel there was any hope.

Anonymous said...

I really thought that the election being finally fucking over that HOMER would put out at least his fucking interpretation.

I guess he's just laughing his ass off watching.

Anonymous said...

>I find the burb's around Sisters far more liberal than Bend.

Even if they are, those votes would be offset by the massive pugs in la-pine and redmond.


>Those that came to Bend from 1998 to present were all Calis from Suburbs of Sacram, & Orange-Co ( Pug Country ) they came to Bend to get rich,

Except those that I hang out with that came from Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maine, and Massachusetts (all blue states) that came here to recreate.

Anonymous said...

>Note also for the county, that still only 1/2 of eligible voters voted, my feeling is a lot of the people that didn't show up were BUSH people, they just didn't feel there was any hope.

And I feel that a lot of people that didn't show up were dems that saw that Obama was polling 12% ahead and their vote wasn't needed.

Bend is dem now.

Quimby said...

>> Those country folk, that bought all those $1M hobby-farms were trying to get away from the city.

Yes, but with their easily gained & new-found wealth, they keep tripping over themselves to give it away to the govt. It's like a guilt complex in people with easily found $$$ (inheritance from their ultra-conservative parents, .com stock $, etc)...they know deep down that they have not truly earned it and feel a knee-jerk guilt complex...hence they STILL vote like they live in the city (liberally). Besides, it's cool and trendy.

People (like me, buster, TT?) who have earned every stinking thing they possess today do not part with their "units of work" (aka: $) as easily as those who didn't work for them.

Anonymous said...

fuckhead, fuckhead, ...


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Welcome back HBM-Pussy, we missed you.

Anonymous said...

>Welcome back HBM-Pussy, we missed you.

Wrong, AGAIN fuckhead.

Anonymous said...

Bend is dem now.

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Bend is PUG, they voted for Telfer, they voted for Smith, ... The OREO won in deschutes, cuz he wasn't Bush (mcSame).

The Bend that I remember from 25+ years ago, was a town of ski bums, and slackers, and rock climbers, ... open minded well traveled dudes, and dudettes.

Today (post 1998) Bend is a suburb of SoCal (PUG).

Like the post above KBND those Limbaugh folks are going out of their fucking minds.

Sure there were rednecks here years ago, but they didn't vote.

In the recent years the City tried to drive out all the kids living in their cars, and turn this city into a Southern-CALI ASS-PEN, what we ended up with is a LIMBAUGH cigar-shop outlet mall. Pure PUG.

Telfer & Smith won in Deschutes by a wide majority, Palin and OBAMA by 1%, that doesn't make BEND DEM.

To suggest that is stupidity, remember the BULL endorsed PALIN, and it was a 50-50 match.

Personally I think the reason the Pug's didn't turn out is they're fucking broke in Bend, and despondent cuz the HELOC-CARD is broken, they voted in MASS for BUSH in 2004, when we were in the best of REHO MTG-FLIPPING times, now is utter despair.

Anonymous said...

>Welcome back HBM-Pussy, we missed you.

Wrong, AGAIN fuckhead.

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Ahhhhhhh BP, we weren't paying attention to you, me so sorry.

Anonymous said...

Michael Denton, GM of Merinda got his second NOD yesterday. First one in mid-october appeared to be on an investment property, and yesterday's looks to be his residence.

That can't be a good sign for Merinda. Any bets on a closing date? I'm in for Jan 12th.

Anonymous said...

> Ahhhhhhh BP, we weren't paying attention to you, me so sorry.

Fuckhead, we've been over this many many times. You seem to feel that there are only 6 people that post on this blog. I'm none of the above. I have probably 500 posts in the last year - only about 10% personally attacking you. Many are just like the one I did above about Denton - simple observations that aren't necessarily attributable to anyone. I'm not ranting unless it is against you, so you don't know who I am. I used a handle occasionally for a while, but got lazy. Give up trying to figure it out because Mike, you have no idea who I am.

Anonymous said...

Besides, it's cool and trendy.

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What I see in my old neighborhood is good people, some retired, almost all NOT pugs, teachers, retired utility people, just average people in homes that are paid for, by people who bought in the 1970's and most people on my street didn't flip.

Almost all my Techie friends who live on acreage in Siberia are 100% liberal yuppy.

The only people that I come across that are CONSERVATIVE (PUG) are the STD ( shevlin, ... ) people, they came to BEND, and live in the exact same home they would in SoCALIF. The shop in the fucking outlet stores, just like SoCal. They live at COSTCO.

Yes, most of the people who got the $1M+ hobby farms got money the easy way, right place right time ( dot-com ), high-tech pre 2000, ... came here to retire, and let their investment go to $10M.

Most people I know at Pronghorn, or Brasada, in gated community's are retired liberals.

I'm not sure they want to giver their money away, I think most people want to give other peoples money away.

PUG votes work on 'FEAR', the FEARFUL live in tract homes, and shop in large shopping malls, thus its most interesting to hear the story's of stabbings and robbery's in BEND taking place at the bastion of the PUG.

When do you hear of a robbery at Peoples(food) or Newport?

Fearful people attract criminals, because the fearful are the best victims, BUSH has raised a generation on fear.

My humble opinion is that now that the race is over their will be more fear that the black-prez will be after the white hair-lips women.

BEND is PUG, and the fearful, are no out of power.

Read Marges post today, to get the fucking picture.

Anonymous said...

Bruce,

I don't care who you are.

We come to this rock to share ideas.

If you have an idea, then share it.

Piss on the rock, and some will sniff, and some will move on, and some will piss over your piss.

Mike

Anonymous said...

Michael Denton, GM of Merinda got his second NOD yesterday. First one in mid-october appeared to be on an investment property, and yesterday's looks to be his residence.

That can't be a good sign for Merinda. Any bets on a closing date? I'm in for Jan 12th.

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Merenda was supposed to have gone down two years ago.

The place has been below 1/2 occupancy since then, but figure he's on a 5 or 7 yr lease, and it was just 2-3 years ago they were called the next culinary aspen, by Gastronomical Magazine.

Two years ago they had over 80 people on the payroll, today its down by 1/2, the issue is do you walk from a lease, which you still owe? Which is at least $5k/mo or more, or do you sit and sell wine by the glass and try to work off the lease?? If you walk, you still owe nYR*12*x, where x is the $/mo remaining on the lease, and collection agency are tough on these. Sure you can file BK, but then he's out of the food racket.

A NOD in this climate is not really much.

How is the DEEP doing??
Merenda has been a dead man walking for 2+ years, ...

Anonymous said...

Introspective Philosophers, I feel the need to share a primitive insight on the topic of 'reporting', e.g. rock pissing.

Journalism, when I was a kid was who,what,where,when, & WHY.

The pussy can post who,what,where,when, but is incapable of a WHY cuz he's an IDIOT dweeb, nitwit.

I ONLY care about WHY, and nothing else.

A 1,000+ times in this forum I have used the analogy of the blind-men and the elephant, some touch the leg, some the ears, some the tail. The leg people see a tree, the ear people a fan, and the tail people a snake.

We debate the BUBBLE and ask WHY, WHY IS THE CITY DOING WHAT THEY DO???

The pussy has NO answers, cuz he just moved here, he has NO HISTORY.

He's NOT EVEN interested in WHY??

I'm only interested in WHY.

We all PISS on the rock, and eventually a few us, share the 'whys', and we can see the elephant.

That is the fucking goal here.

Quimby said...

>> That is the fucking goal here.

Agreed. Well said.

Bewert said...

Looks like McCain eked out a 306 vote victory in Deschutes County:

Last Updated: 11/05/08 General Election RUN TIME:12:05 PM November 4, 2008
52 of 52 Precincts Counted
Voter Turnout: 79,914 of 92,483 (86.41%)

United States President & Vice President
Vote for 1
Ralph Nader 699 (0.88%)
Cynthia McKinney 127 (0.16%)
Current Race Leader John McCain 38,918 (49%)
Bob Barr 303 (0.38%)
Chuck Baldwin 259 (0.33%)
Barack Obama 38,612 (48.62%)
WRITE-IN 501 (0.63%)

Total: 79,419
Over Votes:
Under Votes: 455

Anonymous said...

bruce said...

Looks like McCain eked out a 306 vote victory in Deschutes County:

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Thanks bruce, your back on my approved party list at the trailer park.

What do I win?? I knew that BEND would vote for PALIN it was in MY GUT.

Like I said the other day, I voted down the ticket DEM, first and last time in my life, only cuz I hate fucking PUGS.

BEND is PUG TOWN.

Anonymous said...

>>Does anyone have any real estate for sale? I've heard Bend is beautiful. I am from California.

Good news. It didn't sell, so we're giving it away! Come on up. Just pick an empty house and move right in!

tim said...

>>What do I win?? I knew that BEND would vote for PALIN it was in MY GUT.

You don't win. That's the county vote. I bet Bend came up Obama.

Bewert said...

Mike, I'll ferret out the facts and leave the why to someone who knows the history, like you.

I did find it funny when Capell told me he "barely knew" Todd Taylor.

Bewert said...

Re: >>Does anyone have any real estate for sale? I've heard Bend is beautiful. I am from California.

Go down to the County Courthouse. There is a whole wall full just waiting for your bid.

tim said...

>>People (like me, buster, TT?) who have earned every stinking thing they possess today do not part with their "units of work" (aka: $) as easily as those who didn't work for them.

Yes, I grew up in a crappy rented bungalow above a highway off-ramp (no kidding) and worked my way up. My parents didn't get significant money until I was out of the house, and they are hanging on to their money with their dear lives.

Anonymous said...

I don't care who you are.


We come to this rock to share ideas.

If you have an idea, then share it.

Piss on the rock, and some will sniff, and some will move on, and some will piss over your piss.
Don't Censor, by wiping away with a hose the dog before you, because you don't like his scent.

Be tolerant of all dogs cuz they come in all colors, and sizes, and shapes.

We all have to live in this kennel called the City of BEND, and we have no fucking idea where our CITY OWNERS are taking us day to day.

They operate in executive session, and talk in convoluted tongue, such that only the lawyers of our fair city know what the fuck is going on.

Dog's being curious creatures will always pass information by smell.

Like an old feminist said "Curiosity didn't kill the cat", Lack of interest in 'WHY' killed the cat.

Anonymous said...

I did find it funny when Capell told me he "barely knew" Todd Taylor.

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That's true, why would you think they be buddies?

Mark has real bad back problems bruce, you should be kind to him.

Anonymous said...

You don't win. That's the county vote. I bet Bend came up Obama.

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As I have said for the past 24 hours, we need to get the full breakdown, seems that county only releases these batch figures.

All we ever had was county, from 2000, and 2004, my ORIGINAL point was that given BUSH won a majority in 'BEND' ( dechutes co figures ) in 2000&2004, that I was confident that the ASS-HOLES of BEND would vote for HIM Bush-Palin in 2008.

Bruce has proved me correct.

Anonymous said...

BP,

You simply cannot call your self a 'reporter' and NOT be interested in WHY.

Reporting is who,what,when,where, & WHY.

All the W's must be in the first paragraph of any story.

If your only doing the first 4 w's then your not a reporter, your a parrot. This is why the BULL & SORE are what they are, this is why blogging exists, because thinking people want to know 'WHY'.

Bewert said...

Gordo couldn't take his home county, Hood River:

Gordon H Smith (REP). 4,037 42.76
Jeff Merkley (DEM) . 4,988 52.84

Anonymous said...

Fellow Cunts 'Indys' you call yourselves, see the problem is NOT city-hall, or city-staff.

The problem with Bend is the people in the town.

Only when the PUG's go back to Cali ( or hell ), will Bend cleanse its wounds.

Pug's are sociopaths, homocidal killers. They voted for BUSH 2000&2004, and they tried to turn the USA into Guantanamo in 2008.

Bend is what it is because of its citizens.

Anonymous said...

Gordo couldn't take his home county, Hood River:

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Hell yes, BP, but hood-river is a liberal paradise, a little too rainy in the winter, but the people are good people in general, by majority.

Close to PDX, Hoodriver been a sailboard place forever tons of outdoor people moved there, its the town that Bend should have become,

Bend became a cali shopping mall, Hood River became a cute little B&B town.

LavaBear said...

Gonna miss those granite countertops

Bewert said...

LB, that was rich.

BTW, here is Roubini's newsletter this morning regarding Obama's economic policies:

Greetings from RGE Monitor!

The 2008 U.S. Presidential election was historic itself owing to the candidates’ profile. But the timing of the elections as the U.S. and global economy are in the midst of the worst financial crisis and recession in decades reminds us of the Great Depression era and the 1980s recession when incoming Presidents Roosevelt and Reagan faced immense challenges to cure the economy’s woes.

By the time Obama takes his oath in January 2009, he will face an economy which is still in a middle of a severe and prolonged recession where households will continue to face unaffordable mortgage and other debt, declining value of homes (that financed their consumption all these years), risk of debt default or foreclosure, tight access to credit with stringent borrowing conditions, erosion of their retirement savings amid the bearish stock market, over a million lay-offs taking the unemployment rate to 7-8% and critical foreign policy challenges.

Therefore, immediate challenges for Obama will include cushioning the consumers (who account for over two thirds of GDP) from the economic slowdown by means of a large fiscal stimulus package and acting on a government guaranteed mortgage modificationprogram. In fact, he has already called for fiscal stimulus in the form of grants for state and local governments, infrastructure spending to create jobs, scrap tax on unemployment insurance, tax cuts for lower income-groups and small businesses, tax credits for firms that create jobs and government aid for the ailing auto industry. Some of the tax cuts would be financed by taxing the windfall profits of oil companies. Part of his program would allow households to draw up to $10,000 from retirement funds during 2008-09 without any tax penalty. Obama also called for a ninety-day moratorium on foreclosures, modification of bankruptcy laws, a $10 bn foreclosure-prevention fund and 10% mortgage tax credit for the middle-class. But more importantly he has emphasized preventing taxpayer funded bailout of banks and giving golden parachutes to CEOs of failing institutions. He has also strongly endorsed greater financial sector oversight, control and reporting with the creation of a financial market oversight commission to oversee liquidity, capital and disclosure requirements and plans to streamlining regulatory agencies to prevent overlap and assign greater role to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to prevent market manipulation and to the Federal Reserve to carry out regulation.

The Democratic Congress will also influence on asset markets, business sentiment and financial sector regulation, as well as on the country’s energy policy and oil sector, health insurance and pharma sector, tax incidence on high income-groups and corporate sector, pre-conditions under trade talks and role of labor unions.



Tax Policy and Fiscal Deficit

Obama will face a swelling fiscal deficit which might be pushed over $1trillion in the next few years. Mounting fiscal costs of the housing and financial sector bailout and fiscal stimulus measures to sustain aggregate demand will impact the budget while the downturn puts a dent in tax revenues. Ballooning Medicare and Social Security bills will only add to his challenges.



A redistribution-oriented tax policy which gives larger tax cuts to a greater number of low and middle-income groups while raising taxes on the high-income group is at the center of Obama’s proposals. When Bush’s tax cuts expire in 2011, Obama plans to raise the federal individual income tax rate from the current 33% and 35% to 36% and 39.6% for the over $200,000 and $250,000 income-groups respectively. Tax cuts would be kept at the current rate for the rest of the income groups. However, the total tax incidence might be higher when combined with the State and other taxes. The new administration also plans to remove various exemptions and deductions for the high-income groups while extending several tax breaks and credits for the low and middle-income groups, retirees, homeowners, and students.

For the corporate sector, the plan is to cut the tax rate to below 35% and act stringently to broaden the corporate tax base and reduce loopholes, crack down on international tax havens and tax distortions and have a shareholder vote on CEO pay. The plan also includes tax breaks for firms that keep headquarters in the U.S. Capital gains and dividend tax rates are expected to go up to 20% for the above $250,000 income group. Moreover, carried interest of private equity and hedge-funds will be taxed as ordinary income (at a higher rate) rather than as capital gains.



In order to finance the Social Security shortfall from the oncoming fiscal burden of baby boomers, the new president plans to raise the earnings cap on payroll taxes from the current $102,000 income cap to the over-$250,000 income-group. The Social Security plan will also include a job-portable and tax-deferred Retirement Fund.



While Obama has pledged to follow the pay-as-you-go rule to contain the fiscal deficit, his proposals to increase spending on lower and middle income groups, infrastructure, research and technology would nevertheless raise the national debt with possible impact on Treasury yields and sources of debt financing.



A Democratic Congress might strengthen the stance to raise taxes especially amid criticism that recent tax cuts dented the fiscal deficit, created investment distortions, and raised income and wealth inequality. But the economic slowdown might limit or delay the administration’s ability to raise taxes. Moreover, there have been concerns about possible impact of these policies on U.S. competitiveness and impact on investment and small businesses.

Health Care Reform



In a country with around 47 million uninsured and the middle-class battling with rising health insurance premiums and job-immobile coverage, Obama will face an immense challenge to undertake the impending health care reform and ensure quality healthcare - that presently fails to match with even other developed countries. The President has endorsed a universal health insurance coverage which will have mandates only for children. The plan includes the creation of a regulated National Health Insurance Exchange where individual insurance can be purchased. Low and middle-income households will benefit of subsidized premiums. Firms that do not offer insurance to their employees will face a tax penalty. The improvement in the insurance coverage, in the next few years, might come with a high price tag.



Trade Policy



Regarding trade, Obama has pressed on including on labor and environmental standards in trade agreements. He has also proposed to raise duties on Chinese imports to offset the undervalued Yuan and dumping of goods and also take measures against their violation of intellectual property rights. Part of the plan also includes greater scrutiny of investments by Sovereign Wealth Funds.



Even as the global recession is increasing risk of slowdown in global trade and possible rise in protectionism, this might be exacerbated by a Democratic Congress that favors conditional trade agreements. The current financial crisis and rising significance of Sovereign Wealth Funds might also increase Congress’ aversion to financial globalization and inward foreign investment. But aversion to trade might be overrated as they realize the risk of unilaterally withdrawing from global trade.



While fair trade might be the way for survival ahead, U.S. insistence on non-tariff barriers to protect some sectors and jobs from import competition might isolate it from trade deals and possible gains from multilateral trade talks.



Labor and Middle-Class

However, the most important and significant challenge that Obama will face is alleviating the American middle-class woes due to the recession but also due to the impact of globalization on workers in the recent years. While the lower and middle-income groups have benefited from trade via cheaper imports, the net benefits from globalization are still being heavily debated.. In the most recent years, real wages have remained stagnant for the middle-class in spite of rising cost of living.



In this respect, Obama has offered to raise the minimum wage adjusted for inflation and introduce laws to make organizing unions easier. He has proposed to reform the Trade Adjustment Assistance, wage insurance and worker retraining programs.



Foreign Policy



While economic policy issues make take the fore and constrain foreign policy, many global leaders will be watching the new foreign policy team for clues of the new administration’s priorities. No shortage of challenges await – a resurgent Russia resenting NATO’s involvement in its near abroad, an Iran that remains dedicated to nuclear proliferation despite sanctions etc. Obama’s foreign policy vision has centered around multilateralism and revived diplomacy - something for which European allies have been longing - to further US interests at a time when the U.S. military is engaged in two wars. Iraq and Afghanistan will likely consume much of the administration’s focus - Obama has pledged to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office and counter resurgent Qaeda and Taliban forces in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, economic and not political ties may continue to define the U.S. relationship with key Asian economies, including China, its largest creditor.



But finding common ground with China, the second largest consumer and importer of oil, may be required to meet energy policy and anti-climate change goals. Obama has stressed conservation and use of alternative fuels to meet America’s energy needs in order to reduce US oil imports and its trade deficit. However, the lower price of oil and worsening economic outlook expenditures may reduce some of the political will around cap and trade policies as well as reducing pressure to begin offshore drilling.

Anonymous said...


"I have been called temperamental, vindictive, foul-mouthed and mean. And that's just my mom bragging about me,"
- 'Buster?',
Nope its OREO's new chief of staff, I'm starting to enjoy this, for months the right feared that the OREO would fill his white-house with black-men... Their worst fucking nightmare has came true ...


Emanuel would bring tough edge to White House job
Wed Nov 5, 2008 5:41pm EST


By Thomas Ferraro and Donna Smith

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a combative member of the Democratic congressional leadership, is in line to become President-elect Barack Obama's chief of staff, party sources said.

The job was offered to fellow Chicagoan Emanuel on Wednesday, just hours after Obama was elected, and he was expected to quickly accept the post -- making him one of the most important members of Obama's new inner circle, the sources said.

A one-time adviser to former President Bill Clinton, Emanuel has a reputation for being a master strategist. But he has also been viewed as a highly partisan fighter in the rough world of Washington politics.

"I am a man who has been called temperamental, vindictive, foul-mouthed and mean. And that's just my mom bragging about me," he said in a self-deprecating speech at an annual dinner held by Washington journalists last year.

Some Republicans questioned whether Emanuel could pull off Obama's goal of bringing congressional Democrats and Republicans together to end gridlock and approve major legislation -- a major element of Obama's campaign appeal.

Anonymous said...

BTW, here is Roubini's newsletter this morning regarding Obama's economic policies:


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BP why are you posting such negative shit about YOUR fuhrer OREO??

Roubini is right.

Tough times for the OREO, but we all knew that winning the office was the easy part, now the hard part, putting up with the press for four years, let's see if his press secretary is more forthcoming than BUSH's.

Anonymous said...

Wall Stree must have known something yesterday we didn't about Palin winning, today the street got hammered.

Tech mostly, imagine that 'tech' is fucked, and has been fucked.

Banking, and all the econo-physics has been driving tech since 911, now the orders dry to the bone.

Bewert said...

Re: BP why are you posting such negative shit about YOUR fuhrer OREO??

I'm a realist. Obama's got a hell of a tough row to hoe ahead of him.

I'm curious to see how he fleshes out his team over the coming weeks. Rahm is a great organizer and a hardass. He would be the perfect bad cop to Obama's good cop.

Plus Rahm's brother is a top Hollywood agent, which might be leveraged for the bully pulpit.

Bewert said...

The one thing I've been hearing over and over that I really like is that we need to put major money towards infrastructure.

Fuck war--let's build bridges. And schools. And trains. Etc.

I can get behind that. Imagine if we spent the $10B a month we spend in Iraq hiring American workers to build shit.

Anonymous said...

If you haven't viewed LavaBear's link, go see it now. That's the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.

It took me awhile to realize that what was going on.

Bewert said...

LB's link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM

I put that huge Roubini letter after it. It is really fucking good.

Anonymous said...

It's looking very good so far,...

Joe BIDEN - #1 AIPAC hawk in senate

Dennis Ross - #1 Obama adivsor ZIOCON, AIPAC, Likud, Mossad

Emanuel Rahm - #1 AIPAC/Israel Soldier, Mossad.

Looking good OR-BOMB-EO is moving as planned, we'll see a draft and war in IRAN within six months.


It is legitimate to comment on the Emanuel Rahm offer because it is, to my knowledge, the only one that has been announced so far.

If this report is true, it is worrisome that such an important position is going to a war hawk and someone who is so pro-Israel that he would volunteer to serve in the Israeli army. Or can't we mention that, either?

If Obama nominates Dennis Ross for any kind of Middle East related position, you know that AIPAC has completely controlled him. Anyone who bothers to read the accounts of the negotiations that happened during the Clinton years comes to that conclusion; then there is the tell-tale sign of this guy going from an administration position to WINEP, the far-right Zionist organization.

Anonymous said...

OR-BOMB-EO ...

Since day one here I said the purpose of OR-BOMB-EO was to sell the IRAN war to the blacks & mexicans, dim dat will do the dying.

I said that 'OR-bomb-EO' would ask not what the country could do for you, but what you could do for the country.

War in Syria will expand, Afghan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, ... Expense will go to almost zero, no more CHENEY halliburton at $120k/yr tax exempt, now we'll have people 'drafted' at min-wage.

Expect to see some crisis incident very quickly to get this war in IRAN moving, so that OR-BOMB-EO, can play his OREO move and get the bombs and troops moving.

The US volunteer service is burned out, BUSH(mcSame) could have never gotten a draft, that's the whole reason AIPAC let OREO have the white-house.

Yeh, all are going to get your cargo ( roubini above ), yeh right.

Anonymous said...

Fuck war--let's build bridges. And schools. And trains. Etc.


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Yeh, right on pussy, except all dim schools, bridges, and other cargo will be built in the middle east to win the hearts of minds of the USA's 53rd, 54th, 55th, and 56th States.

Anonymous said...

The ONLY fucking thing that ended the GREAT DEPRESSION was WWII.

The OWNERS of the USA are fast-tracking US directly towards WWIII.

Anonymous said...

If Obama drowns under the influence of Jewish lobby group (AIPAC), then I am sadden and I will never expect change in Washington.

Anonymous said...

Barack Obama the War Monger


The Senator from Illinois masquerades as a "peace candidate" - and then proposes the Americans invade Pakistan, the only Muslim nation that has The Bomb. After the U.S. has propped up the military regime for generations, and stunted democracy in a country of 165 million, Obama now thinks he can just walk into western Pakistan - Waziristan - to find and kill Osama bin Ladin. In the process, he would unite all of the Right and the Left opposition to the government in Islamabad, and give the generals no choice but to brandish The Bomb. Obama wants to add 100,000 new troops to the U.S. military. Now we know where they will be going: Waziristan, a place from Hell.
Barack Obama: Warmonger


"Obama wants to invade Pakistan, the most dangerous place in the world."ObamaJustInCase

Senator Barack Obama believes himself to be the reincarnation of President John F. Kennedy. For those of us who are schooled in history - real history - that's not a good thing. Kennedy tried on many occasions to assassinate Fidel Castro, and set in motion events that led to military dictatorships assuming power throughout Latin America. Kennedy, early in the month of November, 1963, gave the order to murder South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem. Kennedy met his own fate a few weeks later, in Dallas, but he had already set in motion a war that would claim 58 thousand American and three million Vietnamese lives.

Barack Obama is as stupid and dangerous as Kennedy. Obama wants to invade Pakistan, the most dangerous place in the world, where Osama bin Ladin is holed up. The Pakistani regime installed the Taliban in Afghanistan, which became the incubator of Al Quaeda. President Pervez Musharaff, a general who has never been freely elected, depends on the backing of rightwing Muslim fundamentalists and the military to stay in power. And, Oh yes, the United States, which provides many billions of dollars in "aid" per year to prop up the regime.

"Barack Obama will carry us into a suicidal conflict."

Osama bin Ladin, it is universally agreed, lives in Waziristan, in western Pakistan. Speaking at the Woodrow Wilson Center, Sen. Obama launched what he considers a bold new foreign policy initiative: invade Waziristan. Obama was clearly attempting to place himself on the hawkish side of opponent Hillary Clinton, mouthing war-mongering language designed to position him as a warrior-statesman. "When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan," Obama told the foreign policy establishment. The sovereignty of Pakistan will not be respected, under an Obama presidency. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

ObamaNuclearExplosion But Pakistan has The Bomb. And there is no telling what kind of regime will replace Musharraf once he is overthrown by his own military or fundamentalist Muslim supporters when the Americans invade Waziristan, Pakistani territory. Musharraf has told them over and over again that an invasion of Waziristan would destablilize his government. However, Obama is not listening. He is more intent on out-warmongering Hillary Clinton, than making sense of the world.

"We must not turn a blind eye to elections that are neither free nor fair - our goal is not simply an ally in Pakistan," said Obama, "it is a democratic ally." That is a call for regime change. Pakistan is a nation of 165 million people, created in 1947 out of the wreckage of British India, to become a Muslim State, with a Muslim atomic bomb. Obama has no idea how to impose a new regime, that would be more friendly to the United States. Instead, he proposes that western Pakistan be invaded in the search for bin Ladin - a move that would unite both the Right and the secular Left in opposition to the fragile military government.

Obama is a confused man, driven by consultants and no common sense. The United States has coddled and put cash in the accounts of the Pakistani military for two generations, as a bulwark against socialist India, also a nuclear power. The Americans' Saudi surrogates financially supported the religious schools in western Pakistan that gave birth to the Taliban, and took over Afghanistan. Obama now proposes that the U.S. fund an alternative school system in Pakistan - but under what regime? He has no idea, and not a clue about how to secure The Bomb.ObamaPakistanPrezBush

Barack Obama reacts to the world's response to imperialism in precisely the same way as his white counterparts; he proposes more war. Obama wants to add almost one-hundred thousand new troops to the U.S. military, to alleviate the shortage of manpower that Iraq attrition has wrought. In his speech to the Woodrow Wilson Center, Obama gave away their destination: Waziristan. Obama wants a more aggressive approach to the so-called "war on terror," to take "the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

"Obama wants to add almost one-hundred thousand new troops to the U.S. military."

So what we have in Barack Obama is an alternative War Party, planning an alternative War. He has told us so, and we should believe him. He is no peace candidate, and goes out of his way to prove it. The problem is, Osama bin Ladin does not have The Bomb, but the Pakistani military does. Senator Obama would destabilize a regime that is a nuclear power, and has nothing to say except that he would establish schools to replace tens of thousands of maddrassas. What a fool.

The Pakistani regime will not go down in any way that is to the Americans' advantage. Barack Obama is talking trash that will get us incinerated. He is so intent on defining himself as War President, he defeats peace in its bed. Obama has no intention to get out of Iraq, either - how could he, if he wants to attack Waziristan, and shift troops to Afghanistan? Obama is a tricky speaker; who plays word games. Listen to him: He has "a goal of removing all combat brigades by ObamaWaziiristanMarch 31, 2008." Sounds like withdrawal from Iraq, right?" Wrong. There are 180,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, most of them not in "combat brigades," and about 100,000 mercenaries in the country. It is thoroughly occupied. Obama would do a cosmetic withdrawal, and then move the "combat" troops to a far more dangerous war, in Waziristan, that would quickly spread to all of Pakistan and threaten the survival of our great cities.

"My plan would maintain sufficient forces in the region to target al Qaeda within Iraq," Obama told the fat cats at the Woodrow Wilson Center. In other words, he is not about to get out of Iraq. Barack Obama is a liar of the first order.

Obama masks himself as a peace candidate, but he is really a son of war. He carries the "White Man's Burden," proudly. He will carry us into a suicidal conflict, with relish.

Anonymous said...

WHY MC-CAIN LOST!!

So please call me a `rogue Republican.'

I've always been a moderate, conservative Eisenhower Republican who believes in small government, low taxes, saving, hard work, individual freedoms, and avoiding overseas adventures whenever possible.

As a child, I saw President Dwight Eisenhower's inauguration in Washington and treasure the memory to this day. For me, Eisenhower was the embodiment of America's finest qualities: courage, honesty, human decency, modesty and plain speaking. He warned Americans of the danger of the military-industrial complex, a term he coined, and called for global nuclear disarmament.

I've said it before and say it again: I like Ike. When Eisenhower was president, America was respected and admired around the non-Communist world.

I have high regard for Sen. John McCain and believe he would make a fine president. But he showed terrible judgment in picking Sarah Palin as Vice President, and by surrounding himself with neocon advisors like Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Randy Scheunemann, Elliot Abrams and other extremists who played a major role in creating the frightful foreign affairs mess the US now faces. They have made America hated around the globe.

Equally bad, today's Republicans are no longer a party of the democratic center. After the 9/11 attacks, Bush and Dick Cheney packed their administration with rabid neocon warmongers who drove the nation and Republican Party so far right it flirted at times with fascism.

When I hear `Republican' these days, the words that comes to my mind are: arrogance, ignorance, and just plain dumbness.

Religious fundamentalists have become the bedrock of the Bush presidency. Today, 44-50% of Republican voters call themselves born-again Christian fundamentalists who believe every word of the Bible is true. Their most urgent foreign policy goal is to recreate Biblical Israel so their Messiah can return and destroy the planet.

That is no longer my party. The Grand Old Republican Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower has been hijacked by America's rural heartland and the southern-fried Bible Belt. The Republican Party no longer primarily speaks for most educated, worldly, city-dwelling Americans.

McCain's choice of an evangelical Christian ultra conservative, Gov. Sarah Palin, a woman of stunning vulgarity and ignorance, is testimony to the dumbing down of the party and its transformation into a populist religious movement. But he may have had to do so. Without Palin, many on the Christian right, cool about McCain, would not have even voted, assuring his defeat.

Note to Bob and Larry: I haven't changed my politics and remain firmly in the center. But the Republican Party has lurched so far to the right that the old center looks like the left to many Republicans. My party abandoned me in the year 2000.

Barack Obama is dead wrong to propose raising taxes or sending more troops to Afghanistan, an ignoble conflict he mislabels `the good war.' But he certainly is no socialist, as Palin charges. Nationalizing the nation's banks is socialist. Urging world domination neocon-style is National Socialist.

Raising taxes for the wealthy is not socialist, just a Democratic Party shibboleth that has been proven counter-productive time and again.

Republicans disgraced the nation by all their lies about Iraq, endorsing torture, assassinations, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, secret prisons, kidnapping, kangaroo courts, spying on US citizens and undermining America's Constitution. Too many cowardly Democrats joined this lynch mob. Such vile behavior made me ashamed to call myself an American.

The Republican Party now speaks for many rich fat cats, the military-industrial-petroleum complex, and some of the least educated, most backwards, most prejudiced Americans. McCain and Palin have shamelessly stoked anti-black, anti-Muslim and anti-foreign hatred and fear among them during this campaign. So, to a lesser degree, did Hilary Clinton.

Gen. Colin Powell did the right thing by breaking with John McCain, denouncing racism and Islamophobia, and warning of the party's lurch to the far right. However, I wish he had also come clean regarding all the lies about Iraq he delivered at the UN. The good general still owes us an explanation.

America desperately needs a reborn, moderate Republican Party freed from narrow-minded religious ideology and ruralism that will return the nation to its former democratic values and multilateral policies. This was the United States the world used to respect.

Anonymous said...

This is the best one on my theme I have see, "WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT OR-BOMB-EO IS FULL OF SHIT"

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Barack Hope

By John Murphy

04 November, 2008
Countercurrents.org

I had not seen or heard of the dumpy Democrat for quite some time but on Friday Michael Moore was interviewed by Amy Goodman. Michael Moore, you might remember, was once a progressive who not only understood some of the major problems facing the United States but, at least eight years ago, understood the best way to approach those problems. Four years ago something happened. This one time staunch antiwar liberal who supported Ralph Nader in 2000 became a rabid supporter of the Democrat hawk John Kerry. On the "Democracy Now" program Moore once again announced his plans to support another pro-war Democrat, Barack Obama, who intends leaving 150,000 mercenary troops in Iraq to continue the slaughter there, create a "surge" in Afghanistan in order to slaughter thousands of people in that nation and who has already threatened Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Venezuela and Russia.

When Amy Goodman asked how Michael Moore could say that he was opposed to war and yet support a candidate who has announced his intentions to commit the same crimes against humanity as are being committed by the Bush cabal and which were committed by the Clinton regime, the rotund Republican-lite moviemaker said, "well, I don't know if I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm hoping that he breaks his campaign promise, like all politicians do. I'm counting on him to be a good politician and do that". Michael Moore is hoping that O-BOMB-A is just a liar instead of a mass murderer. One can only imagine that, given his ponderous weight, the arteries to his brain must have become completely clogged.

When Amy Goodman then asked the flabby filmster how he could support an O-BOMB-A presidency given that his health care plan would further enrich the healthcare companies that have contributed so generously to his campaign, Michael Moore confessed that while he supported universal single-payer healthcare, certainly O-BOMB-A would be forced to sign the necessary legislation, HR 676, "if we elect a large majority of Democrats on Tuesday". Mr. Moore continued throwing about his weighty opinion on the issue concluding that "a President Obama, even though that isn't his plan, is not going to veto a bill passed by the Democrats in the Congress who want this passed. So, you know, I'm hoping, I guess, a lot for-you know, for us to have a long period of what people experienced when FDR was first elected in 1932".

Such hope has O-BOMB-A inspired in the once carefully critical producer of "Roger and Me". Still Amy Goodman pressed forward. After reminding Michael Moore of O-BOMB-A's imperialist, Zionist driven, war based foreign policy and his opposition to universal single-payer health care she further reminded her beer and peanuts filled guest that O-BOMB-A, like McCain, had also supported the bailout. How could the one time progressive Michael Moore support such a blatant act of fascism?

Undaunted, Michael Moore barreled on.

"But I'm hoping that he was figuring, well, look, we're just a few weeks away from the election; I'm not going to do anything to rock the boat at this moment, but come November 5th, and certainly January 20th, I'm going to undo the damage that's been done here. So I'm going to just put a little pin in that hope and tack it up on the board for right now. I'm also hoping that Senator Obama is, you know, like all politicians: you know; they don't always keep their campaign promises, right? I mean, it's not unusual. It's certainly not unexpected. They just don't always keep their campaign promises. So, somehow I've told myself that those campaign promises that he will not keep are expanding the war in Afghanistan, pushing a healthcare plan that leaves the profit-making health insurance companies in charge of the plan, and, you know, a number of other things that I think a lot of us are concerned about, but-because, obviously, you're not ever going to agree 100 percent with any candidate on any particular thing. But I'm just-I'm just convinced that these are the campaign promises that perhaps might, you know, not get made-or kept, I should say. So, I don't know... So I'm hoping that he's going to do the right thing here and realize that once he's in office and once he has the proper advice from people who know that just sending in more US troops isn't going to take care of the problem.

A less rigorous journalist would have thrown in the towel at this point but Amy Goodman refused to go down for the count taking one more swing at Michael Moore, but like one of those inflatable punching bags that you had when you were a kid, he just kept bouncing back. Ultimately, like that old punching bag Mr. Moore will end up in the corner slowly deflating and finally being forgotten. With her final swing Ms. Goodman asked about his "thoughts on this being the most expensive presidential campaign in history, with Obama opting out of campaign finance".

Still, the fatty from Flint waddled deeper into incoherence with "Well, you know, yeah, one good thing that Obama could do as soon as he takes office is to say, 'You know, that sucked, what we just went through and what I did, what I participated in, even though it was mostly from small donations. You know, this isn't the way we should be doing this.' And I would love it if he would just propose a plan to remove money from politics and to do what just virtually every other Western democracy does, which is to get the money out of politics".

In what was clearly becoming a futile effort to cut through the layers of psychological lard obscuring Michael Moore's thought processes Amy Goodman further inquired "wouldn't that really largely depend on what people demand and who he is surrounded by and who people demand he is surrounded by, if, in fact, he becomes president"? Whereupon the massive man from Michigan replied, "Well, that's why-yes. And that's why I think that a landslide, in terms of the Congress, in terms of throwing out dozens of Republicans from Congress and from the House and from the Senate, if there is a huge outpouring on Tuesday; I think that will send a very strong message".

When Michael Moore was fired by The Nation Magazine, the only man who would give him a job was Ralph Nader. Perhaps remembering those hard times, Moore suggested "we need to support third, fourth and fifth parties, so that all voices are heard in this country. They need to be at the debates. But in this election, you know, I'm voting for Barack Obama. And it's-you know; we don't have the proper setup to where these other parties have a chance. They should have a chance".

The pudgy politico concluded his comments on O-BOMB-A with: "I don't think there's many of us that are under any sort of delusion that Barack Obama and Joe Biden are going to take us all the way to the promised land, but they are going to stop-they're the tourniquet that's going to stop the bleeding".

To be trite, the interview then went from the ridiculous to the absurd. Mr. Moore introduced a number of proposals for the incoming president which would include reinstating the draft but just for the children of Americans whose earnings fall in the upper 5% of the income distribution. Of course someone making $350,000 year or more you would be in the top 1%. Even that income does not represent great wealth. To be in the top 5% you need only make $153,542. Hardly the super wealthy ruling class folks! In fact there are only about 145,000 Americans, a fraction of 1% of the people, who are also the major contributors to the two political parties, who call the shots. It is that tiny percentage, not the top 5% that need to be held accountable.

Before we put this inflatable political punching bag in the corner and forget about him we cannot ignore the damage he has done nor overlook the contribution he might have made. He is hoping that the candidate he is supporting is simply a liar and not a mass murderer who plans to continue to deprive us of our civil liberties, the right to universal healthcare and the right to develop a truly democratic political system free of the influence of corporate money.

Michael Moore is incorrect when he says that most of Obama's money has come from small contributors. To be sure, a third of Obama's money did in fact come from such contributors but the overwhelming bulk of his money is corporate. To place any hope that such a man would betray his corporate pay masters is naïve at best and patently dangerous. The suggestion that a Democrat majority in the Congress will force Obama to give us universal single-payer healthcare, end corporate welfare, stop the imperialist wars in the Middle East, institute public financing of elections, change our political plutocracy to an actual democracy based on proportional representation and the multiparty system flies in the face of the reality of the 2006 Democrat congress.

We have just witnessed what happens when the Democrats hold a majority in Congress. In order to stop the war, all they had to do was nothing! Ending corporate abuse would have been just as easy but the Democrat Congress would not even impeach the most impeachable President in American history. There is indeed a difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans were willing to impeach a president for lying under oath about sex while the Democrats were unwilling to impeach a president who lied to us the reasons for going to war, rejected the Bill of Rights, committed torture in the name of the American people and even tapped our telephone conversations without warrant.

Michael Moore and other prominent pseudo-progressives might have actually held O-BOMB-A's feet to the fire. By withholding their support early on, pending his positions at least on healthcare, war, Israel, corporate welfare and campaign finance reform prominent celebrities like Mr. Moore might have at least created an acceptable Democrat presidential candidate. But that's not what Michael Moore did. And other politically active celebrities are pursuing the same destructive course.

Read once again Michael Moore's justification for supporting Barack Obama.

"Well, I don't know if I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm hoping that he breaks his campaign promises."

"If we elect a large majority of Democrats on Tuesday... Obama [will have to pass universal single-payer healthcare]"

"But I'm hoping that he was figuring, well, look, we're just a few weeks away from the election... but come November 5... I'm going to undo this damage that's been done here"

"So somehow I've told myself that those campaign promises he will not keep our expanding the war in Afghanistan, pushing a healthcare plan that leaves the profit-making healthcare insurance companies in charge..."

"But I'm just -- I'm just convinced that these are campaign promises that might, you know, not get made... so, I don't know... I'm hoping he's going to do the right thing."

"And that's why I think a landslide, in terms of the Congress,... I think will send a very strong message."

"Barack Obama and Joe Biden...[are not] going to take us to the promised land -- the attorney could that's going to stop the bleeding".

The once progressive Michael Moore has no good reason for supporting O-BOMB-A other than some bizarre form of psychological transference. Obama is clearly not going to surround himself with the kind of people Michael Moore believes will force him to be a progressive. He has, in fact already selected many advisers from the war criminal Bill Clinton's regime including free marketer Robert Rubin. These are the same Clinton advisers who engineered the deregulatory policies that led to the financial meltdown, and the key free-market fundamentalist policies that are destroying the American economy.

O-BOMB-A has so ingratiating himself to AIPAC that any hope for peace in the Middle East is pure illusion. Where is the hope? Where is the change? The great Barack hope proposes a foreign policy that supports Israeli territorial expansion, economic and social justice policies that benefit corporations and multimillionaires and their billionaire mentors.

Michael Moore presents no logical argument for progressives, or anyone else for that matter, to vote for O-BOMB-A. No logical argument for progressives to vote for a warmonger, a free trade, free market neoliberal who plans to make his administration the third term of Bill Clinton. He presents only the irrational illusion of rhetoric based, Madison Avenue constructed fantasy.

Anonymous said...

O-BOMB-A has so ingratiating himself to AIPAC that any hope for peace in the Middle East is pure illusion. Where is the hope?

Where is the change?

The great Barack hope proposes a foreign policy that supports Israeli territorial expansion, economic and social justice policies that benefit corporations and multimillionaires and their billionaire mentors.

Anonymous said...

Goddamn. Election's over. Give it a rest.

Nothing about Bend to say?

Anonymous said...

Nothing about Bend to say?

****

The Heif I had a lunch today was pretty tasty.

Anonymous said...

"The election is over, give it a rest"

A BIG FUCK YOU.

Two years ago, when you mentioned 'BUSH' on this fucking board people had a conniption. He had nothing to do with the Bendbubble. Bull fucking shit, we had to remind people he was prez.

Now today the OREO is prez, new blogger-fodder. Oh, and we're supposed to be silent now also, cuz nothing is the OREO's fault??

BUSH is GONE!!!!!!! NOW the OREO is in, get OVER with it, from now on we'll ONLY be talking about the OREO and how it effects BEND.

BUSH is Dead.

Anonymous said...

Timothy F. Geithner to Be Obama's Treasury Secretary.

"Talmudic Jew Who Was the Economic Hitman For Global Crash"

Notice he worked for Larry Summer(Jew), Bob Rubin (Jew), Greenspan (Jew), Bernanke (Jew), Henry Kissinger (Jew). Also a member of the Jewish dominated CFR and worked for the Jewish owned Bank of International Settlements.

We're almost 12 for 12, at no time in US history has a presidential cabinet been made up such. The Jewish are 2% of the USA, but control 100% of the Fed, BIA, and World Bank.

Obama will indeed bring change to Bend.

Timothy F. Geithner engineered the crash, that led to the media bailout, that crushed McCain's election ( just stating the truth ). The media made the bail-out and economics #1 story in the nation Sep/Oct 2008. Today the #1 story in the world is that a black-man is prez. Big fucking deal. His admin, cabinet, & war-room; Will be the most powerful Zionists in the world.

OR-BOMB-EO; An OREO for Israel who Bomb's the Middle East.

For people who google good stuff out there on how "Timothy F. Geithner" has led Paulson around by the dick for the past year. Lastly, even though Paulson is OUT, more Goldman Sachs people will be brought into Obama's team.

Anonymous said...

Most interesting about Obama's pick's is that almost all of them were mentored by Kissinger.

Deja-Vu, change, a new world order, ...

Anonymous said...

Some Cunts, Kunts, Pussy's, ... Such in Bend say "Let's discuss Bend",

Everytime we discuss Bend there is complete fucking silence.

Nobody gives a fuck about Bend around here.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I think Volo may have marked the absolute top of Bend's Hyper-Excess Period.

I've NEVER, EVER seen a single person in there. EVER.

And what I see as the Ultimate Capitulation? The "Where To Eat In Bend" guide, on Volo's page, say's "Volo is Kid Friendly."

Tell me that ain't desperate.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Went by the Tower Theatre, and there was some sort of dumbshit fund-raising thing going on.

There were about 10-12 people there looking at chinzy crap for sale. All were well-dressed, but very uncomfortable looking... like they had rented out a hall that held 200... and only 10 showed up.

deep though, was another story. Similar looking event, but they had done it right. Super small venue, and they managed to pack in 13-14 people and the alky haul was clearly flowing.

If you're doing the non-profit "thing" people, remember: SMALL VENUE, lots' of drugs & alky haul. That's how you make fake titties look even bigger: stuff them in too small a space so it looks like they're busting out.

Anonymous said...

Geithner was heavily involved in engineering the financial collapse, now he'll be in charge of fixing the problem. The solution? A 'Global Financial System' all controlled by Israel, who would have guessed. They don't call the OREO and OREO for nothing, 'Black' on the outside and a convoluted concoction of synthetic ingredients on the inside.

Geithner’s calls for a “global financial system” operating under a unified regulatory framework. Here is an excerpt:

— “The main global banks need to operate under a unified framework that provides a stronger form of consolidated supervision.

To compliment this we need to put in place a stronger framework of oversight authority over the critical parts of the payments system – not just the established clearing and settlements systems - but the infrastructure that underpins the decentralized over-the-counter markets. The Federal Reserve should play a central role in such a framework.

Indeed, this Jew, Timothy Geithner, is a Zionist careerist with a lust for power!

The Federal Reserve is Jewish, and the Federal Reserve intends to play a central roll in running the world economy. Who would have guessed?

Zionists know that if they control the worlds paper money, that they can control the worlds treatment of Israel, and demand that Iran be crushed.

Bring on the or-BOMB-eo's, good old fashion Israeli cluster bombs for Iran.

The OREO only has ONE purpose in this one TERM of his, and that is to initiate the draft so that mexicans and blacks can be killed for the protection of Israel.

What the FUCK does this have to do with BEND? Not much, just setting up the house of cards, so when they fall, you can see the direction.

Anonymous said...

.Similar looking event, but they had done it right. Super small venue, and they managed to pack in 13-14 people and the alky haul was clearly flowing.

*

What is it with these events??

Last wednesday I went to CascadeLocks for happy-night, and drove by Umpqua Bank, and it was packed with suits and dresses, and same deal HUGE catering and tons of alky-haul, for a economy in dire straights, what the fuck is going on??

Anonymous said...

I think Volo may have marked the absolute top of Bend's Hyper-Excess Period.

*

Where is it? Doesn't even ring a bell?

What is your plan about posting HOMEE I can of figured you were waiting to talk about the PALIN victory???

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Bend, Redmond real estate mixed
Published: November 06. 2008 4:00AM PST

There were 107 single-family homes sold in Bend last month, down from 120 in September and 112 in October 2007, according to the Bratton Report released Wednesday by Bratton Appraisal Group, of Bend. The median sales price was $278,000, up from $276,000 in September, but down from $320,000 a year ago, and the median sales price per square foot rose to $153 in October from $139 in September, but fell from $163 a year ago.

In Redmond, 42 homes sold last month, up from 40 in September and 31 a year ago, Bratton said. The median sales price was $180,000, down from $204,000 in September and $260,000 a year ago, and the median sales price per square foot was $108, down from $117 in September and $153 a year ago.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

"Mixed"?

Really? "Mixed" is how you describe a drop from 120 sales alst year at $320K, to current sales of 107 @ $278K?

Maybe you threw in Redmond which actually had an increase in units sold, but a median that COLLAPSED from $260K a year ago to $180K now.

Yeah. Good Call Bulletin. It's MIXED.

Whoa! It's MIXED! I'm confused! Maybe I better buy 3 spec homes, just to be safe!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yeah. Redmond is real MIXED.

MEDIANS DOWN 31% IN THE PAST YEAR

Anonymous said...

McNiel-Liar News hour was dour on OREO last night.

Shields really hit him hard about the OREO 'quote' from tuesday night where OREO said "It might take a term or two to fix the USA problems".

Sheilds went rapid, and pointed out that a new prez only had six months to get shit done, and if pissed that window, all hope would be gone.

There is NO fucking chance in HELL that OREO will get a second term, cuz in two years we'll be held accountable for Great Depression 2.

Thus in effect the OREO is saying, "I'll not get a fucking thing done on my watch".

Well he will, he'll load his cabinet and admin with Zionists (I hate to use the word Jews).

Like HBM says "Aaron Switzer"(SORE OWNER) ain't Jewish.

Hell I know a ton of Jews and they ain't Jewish ( orthodox, or wearing a Yarmulke).

Like I always say, the CIA ain't Christian, and the MOSSAD ain't JEWISH.

All these fuckers that OREO is appointing are MOSSAD(ISRAEL CIA), its NOT jewish, but what other word do we use? If you say MOSSAD nobody knows what your talking about.

Is Aaaron Switzer of the SORE MOSSAD? NO.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

But Redmond DOES point the way to recovery: The COLLAPSE in prices needed to flush out the excesses is THE ONLY THING that will end this IMPLOSION.

People actually bought a few homes at $180K.

Home building will never, EVER be what it once was in this dreadfully DEVOID OF BUSINESS IMAGINATION place; but at least once The Bulletin and Bend media realize that and stop desperately trying to BAIL this sinking ship & put some efforts into something else, we can move on.

Prices are collapsing and they will continue to collapse. And it's the best thing that could happen here. Until it plays out & we hit rock bottom, this place cannot recover.

Anonymous said...

"Mixed breed, an animal whose parents are from different breeds or species; Mixed anomaly, in theoretical physics, an example of an anomaly; Mixed data ..."

From wiki, ...

Yes, I concur with the BULL, reddy & bendy have different parents. Just like Priny.

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