Monday, March 17, 2008

100th Post! Just In Time For The Implosion Of Our Financial System! YEAH!

600+ 400+ 200+ comments.. you know what to do... triple down

Agent Smith
: You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Goodbye, Mr. Anderson...

Son: "Hey Dad, what's that scary noise?"

Dad: "Oh, that's nothing Son. That's just the sound of America's Collapsing Financial System."

Son: "It sounds like that earthquake in the Bering Sea that killed all those black Antarcticans in 2005."

Dad: "It was the Indian Ocean & Indonesians mainly, but this will be much, much worse than that. But, we had a good run"

Wow. Where to start? I guess we'll start with the Macro-Big Stuff, and work back to the Little Stuff.

Bear bailout sparks concern about other brokers
Crisis of confidence hits ahead of results from Goldman, Morgan, Lehman

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - The emergency bailout of Bear Stearns Cos. dented confidence in other securities firms ahead of results next week from some of Wall Street's giants including Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers, analysts said on Friday.

The Bear Stearns Companies Inc. was forced to borrow money for 28 days from the Federal Reserve, with help from J.P. Morgan Chase JPMorgan Chase & Co, after clients and counterparties deserted the 85-year-old firm.

Triggering a sell-off throughout the financial sector, Bear shares slumped 47% to $30, their biggest one-day drop in at least two decades.

Bear said the rescue consists of getting short-term financing from the Fed, through J.P. Morgan, after its liquidity "deteriorated significantly" during the past 24 hours.

Bear said the financial support is a bridge to a more permanent solution. Several analysts predicted the firm will likely be acquired quickly by a stronger bank or broker to stop its troubles triggering broader problems in the financial system.

"The financial system supervisors are attempting to prevent this company's problems and the perception of problems from rippling through the system to other financial players," David Hendler, an analyst at CreditSights, wrote in a note to investors. "Given Bear Stearns' huge impact in the mortgage, derivatives and funding markets, we sense that a salvation acquisition is the most likely possibility."

Only days earlier, Bear Chief Executive Alan Schwartz reassured investors that the broker had no liquidity problems and was meeting demands for cash. But concerns grew in the market anyway and on Thursday counterparties withdrew crucial financial support and the firm was hit by a wave of client withdrawals. That pushed the firm into the arms of the Fed.

"If a firm as large and liquid as Bear can be taken down on what appears to us as exaggerated claims about liquidity and counterparty risk which then snow-ball into a market reality as investors, counterparties and lenders shoot first and ask questions later, then what's to stop the same thing happening to other firms facing similar issues," Michael Hecht, an analyst at Banc of America Securities, wrote in a note to clients on Friday.

First-quarter earnings per share for these four firms will likely drop by more than half versus a year earlier, according to analyst estimates compiled by FactSet.

Bear's crisis is the latest sign that the U.S. financial system is cracking under the weight of a global credit crunch that was sparked by last year's subprime mortgage meltdown. As lenders have become more wary of mortgage securities used to back loans, they've pulled back, sparking widespread de-leveraging.

Brokerage firms get the money they need by borrowing it in the market, while big banks like J.P. Morgan get a big chunk of their funding from customers who deposit cash in bank accounts.

That means brokerage firms are more vulnerable to swings of risk appetite and aversion in capital markets. As the credit crunch has spread, creditors have become less willing to lend to these firms, increasing their borrowing costs.

"Financial markets are pretty frozen up. It's a stunner," said Hal Ritch, co-chief executive of investment bank Sagent Advisors and a former Citigroup Inc. banker. "There was so much liquidity just a few months ago, but now there's so little. There's a lot of fear out there."

As leverage, or borrowing, in the financial system is wound down, some market participants arehaving to sell assets to meet their obligations. That's causing prices to fall further.

Falling prices is a problem for brokerage firms because they still hold illiquid assets and will probably have to record the lower market value of these exposures as part of their first-quarter results.

Brokerage firms have already taken billions of dollars in such write-downs, but continuing turmoil in credit markets may mean a few more quarters of valuation hits.

"The problem that Bear Stearns and other financials face is a great unwind of leverage," Meredith Whitney, an analyst at Oppenheimer & Co., wrote in a note to investors on Friday. "When a company that is leveraged over 30-to-1 faces a crisis of liquidity and confidence of creditworthiness, that company will be unable to leverage its collateral and its leverage will be forced down to 1-to-1."

The global financial-services sector may end up writing down the fair value of subprime exposures by $285 billion, mainly from residential mortgage-backed securities and more complex vehicles known as collateralized debt obligations (CDOs), Standard & Poor's estimated on Thursday.

The rating agency gave investors hope when it said the end of such write-downs was in sight. However, it also gave an ominous warning.

The agency said that the broader credit crunch has dented the market prices of many other types of securities in recent weeks. If this continues, banks and brokers could be hit by another round of write-downs, S&P said.

"A major re-pricing of credit risk is taking place across the debt markets," S&P wrote. "If the wider spreads hold to the end of the first quarter or half of this year, financial institutions will suffer further market value write-downs of a broad range of exposures, including leveraged loans." End of Story

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THIS is how close Armaggedon is. 24 HOURS.

24 hours before Bear Stearns went completely BROKE (don't believe anything else), the CEO made statements that ALL IS WELL; Zero liquidity problems, Don't Worry, We Are Fine.

Uh huh. Bear Stearns will be sold later this week, if not before I finish this post.

How unusual is this? Well, let's see. From Bloomberg:

Fed Invokes Little-Used Authority to Aid Bear Stearns

By Scott Lanman

March 14 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke invoked a law last used four decades ago to keep Bear Stearns Cos. from collapsing after the securities firm sought emergency funding from the central bank.

The loan to Bear Stearns required a vote today by the Fed's Board of Governors because the company isn't a bank, Fed staff officials said. The central bank is taking on the credit risk from Bear Stearns collateral, lending the funds through JPMorgan Chase & Co. because it's operationally simpler to accomplish than a direct loan, the staff said on condition of anonymity.

Bernanke took advantage of little-used parts of Fed law, added in the 1930s and last utilized in the 1960s, that allow it to lend to corporations and private partnerships with a special board vote. The Fed chief probably sought to stave off a deeper blow to the financial system from a Bear Stearns collapse, former Fed researcher Keith Hembre said.

``The Fed really doesn't have any obligation to help a non- bank aside from its role or responsibility to keep the financial markets functioning,'' said Hembre, who helps oversee $107 billion as chief economist at FAF Advisors Inc. in Minneapolis. ``They made a judgment, probably an accurate one, that they're not going to function very well if you've got a full-blown crisis with a major Wall Street firm.''

Unanimous Vote

The Fed said in a statement that it will ``continue to provide liquidity as necessary to promote the orderly functioning of the financial system,'' repeating reassurances the central bank has made often since credit strains arrived in August. The statement said the Fed Board unanimously approved the arrangement with JPMorgan and Bear Stearns.

The Fed Board, which met today at 9:15 a.m. Washington time, typically delegates such discount-window lending authority to its regional reserve banks when it comes to loans to banks.

``There's a clear realization among people both in the official sector and the financial markets that some of the institutions we have built over the last 100 years are not well adapted to the modern 21st century financial system,'' said former New York Fed research director Stephen Cecchetti. ``A lot of what we've been seeing have been creative innovations to deal with problems that the institutions were not built to handle.''

The senior staffers declined to describe how large the loan to Bear Stearns is, and whether a private-sector bailout was attempted first before the Fed extended credit through JPMorgan. The staff officials said the Fed used its authorization under the law several times in the 1960s though didn't immediately have further details.

Paulson's Support

Such votes require approval from five Fed governors. The seven-member Fed board currently has two vacancies, and one governor, Randall Kroszner, is serving past the Jan. 31 expiration of his term.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, in a separate statement, said ``there are challenges in our financial markets, and we continue to address them.'' Treasury is ``working closely'' with the Fed and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

``I appreciate the leadership of the Federal Reserve in enhancing the stability and orderliness of our markets,'' Paulson said. ``Our financial system is flexible and resilient and I am confident that the efforts of regulators and market participants will minimize disruption to the system.''

Robert Rubin, the former Treasury secretary who is now chairman of Citigroup Inc.'s executive committee, said at a conference today that the ``risks have reached a point that the right thing is to act and act in a very serious way.''

47% Plunge

Bear Stearns shares plummeted a record 47 percent on news of the bailout. The announcement, coupled with a report showing U.S. consumer prices were unchanged in February, led traders to place 56 percent odds that Fed policy makers will lower their benchmark interest rate by a full percentage point at their March 18 meeting, to 2 percent.

Yesterday, the odds of such a move were 0 percent.

A reduction of that size would be unprecedented since the overnight lending rate became the Fed's main policy tool around 1990, trumping the Jan. 22 emergency cut of 0.75 percentage point.

It's the first time since the financial turmoil intensified in August that Bernanke, 54, has publicly announced Fed assistance to a specific company instead of measures open to broader sets of banks or other financial institutions.

Most recently, the Fed on March 11 announced plans to lend $200 billion in Treasuries to primary dealers in exchange for debt that includes mortgage-backed securities. Last week, the Fed increased funds available through its so-called Term Auction Facility, set up in December to lend funds to banks in exchange for a wide variety of collateral, including mortgage debt.

`All the Problems'

``What they're doing now is going to help, but I don't know that it will solve all the problems out there,'' said Thomas Garcia, managing director of Thornburg Investment Management in Santa Fe, New Mexico, which oversees $50 billion.

Bear Stearns's liquidity problem ``definitely gives some doubt as to whether other firms are releasing all available information, and whether this credit crunch is really over,'' Garcia said.

Bear Stearns isn't alone among financial institutions stung by the credit squeeze to be bailed out. The U.K. government was forced to nationalize Northern Rock Plc last month after the first run on a British bank in more than a century and take on 100 billion pounds ($203 billion) in liabilities. Two German banks have also received emergency aid.

While U.S. authorities have been faster than their U.K. counterparts in announcing the rescue package for Bear Stearns, former Bank of England policy maker Willem Buiter says that doesn't make their course of action was the correct one.

``This creates the same moral hazard issues that we saw with Northern Rock,'' said Buiter, now a professor at the London School of Economics. ``This bank is being given access to public money, and we don't know what the terms are.''

I think it's clear the path we are on. With gold at $1,000/oz, it seems to be a thesis whose time has come. I wrote a bit about how I thought this would unfold in a post wayyyy back when:

Ah yes, good old Zimbabwe. A place where you look to see how disastrous insular governmental corruption can decimate an economy. See any parallels to Bend?
  • Robert Mugabe = Bend City Council
  • Mugabe's Supposed Economic Sabotage = Let's Hire A PR Marketing Firm Cuz We F'd Up Juniper Ridge
  • 120,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars = Bend Median Home Price
  • Economic Meltdown & Refugees = Bends Future
Of course, like Mugabe, Bend City Council feels they have carte blanche to wreck this town just as long as they can continue to peddle economic influence to a microscopic portion of the population, the Bend RE juggernaut. Outcome? Bends Popeil Pocket Fisherman sellers have so far succeeded in bilking some real idiots out of their life savings, but that market is by definition small & shrinking away to ZERO. I have no doubt that like Mugabe, Bend City Council will continue to bang this little fiefdom up the corn chute for all it's worth, and the end result will be economic disaster & a massive flight of REFUGEES out of Bend when the true "hot air" nature of it's primary product is revealed.

I took some heat for even speaking about hyperinflation in a post last July. Well, let's say some people questioned the idea:

IHTBYB,

Could you please explain exactly what might trigger your hyper-inflation model? What bellwether's might there be?

The last serious inflation the US saw was late 70's.

While we're experiencing inflation right now, my feeling is that its because the US dollar is dropping like a rock. That said for most people fixing that simple problem is just a point of buying Euro's.

What in particular to you think will cause hyper-inflation? Your example in Germany happened after a failed war.

Hmmm... failed war? Nope, none in sight.


No, what we have is failed monetary restraint & out of control consumerism & credit issuance.

Coincidentally, I found an article mentioning the "Z" word:

The Fed May Run Low on Unconventional Ammo

Back in 2003, when the Federal Reserve cut interest rates to 1%, the world worried that the Fed was running out of ammunition and would soon have to turn to unconventional tools.

Now, in 2008, it’s worth asking if the Fed could run out of unconventional ammunition. Tuesday’s offer to lend $200 billion of its Treasury holdings to primary dealers in return for mortgage-backed securities both guaranteed by the government-sponsored enterprises (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and not (private-label MBS) means it will have eventually sold or pledged half of its Treasurys, limiting how many more of these tricks it can pull off.

Since August the Fed has announced a series of steps designed to target those pockets of the financial markets facing the most stress rather than rely solely on the blunt instrument of lower short-term interest rates. These steps have primarily involved taking onto its balance sheet something a bit risky — a loan to a bank or a securities dealer, collateralized with paper ranging from corporate loans to private-label mortgage backed securities (i.e. MBS not backed by the federally sponsored agencies Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac).

Left alone, these operations would result in an increase in cash supplied to the banks, boosting excess reserves and pushing down the federal-funds rate. Since the Fed does not want that to happen, it “sterilizes” the operation by getting rid of an equivalent amount of something else on its balance sheet. That something is usually Treasurys. Last December, it announced the creation of the term auction facility under which it auctions off loans to banks against a wide variety of collateral. To keep its balance sheet constant, it decided to let a roughly equivalent amount of its Treasurys mature. Since then, its Treasury portfolio has fallen from $779 billion to $713 billion.

Last Friday, it announced two additional steps: It would expand the size of the Term Auction Facility loans to a total of $100 billion from $60 billion (and the original $40 billion) and lend up to $100 billion to primary dealers in lengthened, 28-day repo operations. To sterilize those operations, Wrightson Associates estimates the Fed will have to shed $100 billion in Treasurys. Friday, it sold $10 billion of Treasury bills, its first outright sale since 1991. It will have to sell or redeem a lot more to keep its balance sheet from ballooning. One of the beauties of the securities lending facility is that it is self-sterilizing: The addition of MBS to its balance sheet is exactly offset by the loan of Treasurys.

From the point of view of normalizing market conditions, it makes sense to replace Treasurys with other stuff because the federal government is having no trouble borrowing right now. Quite the contrary: The flight to safety has driven Treasury yields to unnaturally low levels. In the securities-lending (or repo) market, someone with Treasurys to offer as collateral can borrow at a rock-bottom interest rate. But it does raise the prospect that with a few more similar-sized steps, the Fed will have run out of Treasurys to sell or pledge.

As Michael Feroli of J.P. Morgan Chase notes: “in a short period of time the Fed could have up to $400 billion of mortgage assets on its balance sheet.” Of course, that would still leave it with $400 billion in other assets to sell or pledge. And the Fed doesn’t have to simply sell Treasurys: It can allow some of its $52 billion in shorter-term repo loans to dealers to expire. It could conduct reverse repos, i.e. start borrowing from primary dealers instead of lending to them (although that would tie up Treasurys as collateral for the reverse repos). Fed officials say they have many other ways of increasing their lending capacity though they were not specific.

And, as David Greenlaw of Morgan Stanley notes: “If the situation were to become sufficiently dire, the Fed has unlimited power to monetize the economy’s debt … . They could finance the entire $10 trillion US mortgage market — and then some — via some combination of outright purchases (of the GSE-backed securities) and repo transactions (for the private debt).” Of course, that would quickly send the federal-funds rate to zero and, with a lag, inflation to the moon. Hello, Zimbabwe (inflation: 100,500%).

There doesn’t seem much risk of that now judging from the Fed’s response to Wall Street dealer suggestions that the Fed purchase GSE MBS and bonds. The Fed has the clear legal authority to do so, unlike with private-label MBS, and indeed held some agency debt as recently as 2003. But Fed staffers told reporters Tuesday that such purchases would inevitably influence the prices of such securities and they don’t want their operations distorting relative valuations. Another philosophical barrier is the Fed’s long standing efforts to strip the GSEs of their implied government guarantee, one reason it has let its holdings of GSE debt fall to zero. A more prosaic obstacle: the Fed’s operations are not well equipped to hold MBS with their unpredictable prepayment patterns.

For a similar reason, the Fed does not, at least for now, want to lengthen any of its lending operations to 90 days, as the European Central Bank and the Bank of England regularly do and as dealers would like. The Fed, staffers say, would become the dominant influence on interest rates at that maturity and it would rather that be a market-determined rate.

Many key aspects of the latest plan remain unanswered, reflecting how quickly it was put together. Money market dealers want to know what kind of private label MBS they can pledge: jumbos? Subprime? Alt-A? (The Fed has nixed commercial MBS). They also want to know what haircuts the Fed will apply. Fed officials decline to be specific except to say they will seem conservative for ordinary times and liberal for tumultuous times. (One starting point may be the haircuts imposed on MBS collateral at the discount window: They range from 2% to 15% depending on the maturity and the availability of market pricing.) Those details will be worked out in coming weeks. – Greg Ip

This is from a WSJ blog entry. Sorry no link, it was a 1 day freebie :-)

But we are starting to hear even the most respected financial minds say how dire the situation really is. To wit, Buffett:

PAUL B. FARRELL
Derivatives the new 'ticking bomb'
Buffett and Gross warn: $516 trillion bubble is a disaster waiting to happen

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- "Charlie and I believe Berkshire should be a fortress of financial strength" wrote Warren Buffett. That was five years before the subprime-credit meltdown.

"We try to be alert to any sort of mega-catastrophe risk, and that posture may make us unduly appreciative about the burgeoning quantities of long-term derivatives contracts and the massive amount of uncollateralized receivables that are growing alongside. In our view, however, derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction, carrying dangers that, while now latent, are potentially lethal."
That warning was in Buffett's 2002 letter to Berkshire shareholders. He saw a future that many others chose to ignore. The Iraq war build-up was at a fever-pitch. The imagery of WMDs and a mushroom cloud fresh in his mind.

Also fresh on Buffett's mind: His acquisition of General Re four years earlier, about the time the Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund almost killed the global monetary system.

How? This is crucial: LTCM nearly killed the system with a relatively small $5 billion trading loss. Peanuts compared with the hundreds of billions of dollars of subprime-credit write-offs now making Wall Street's big shots look like amateurs.

Buffett tried to sell off Gen Re's derivatives group. No buyers. Unwinding it was costly, but led to his warning that derivatives are a "financial weapon of mass destruction." That was 2002.
Derivatives bubble explodes five times bigger in five years

Wall Street didn't listen to Buffett. Derivatives grew into a massive bubble, from about $100 trillion to $516 trillion by 2007. The new derivatives bubble was fueled by five key economic and political trends:
  1. Sarbanes-Oxley increased corporate disclosures and government oversight
  2. Federal Reserve's cheap money policies created the subprime-housing boom
  3. War budgets burdened the U.S. Treasury and future entitlements programs
  4. Trade deficits with China and others destroyed the value of the U.S. dollar
  5. Oil and commodity rich nations demanding equity payments rather than debt
In short, despite Buffett's clear warnings, a massive new derivatives bubble is driving the domestic and global economies, a bubble that continues growing today parallel with the subprime-credit meltdown triggering a bear-recession.

Data on the five-fold growth of derivatives to $516 trillion in five years comes from the most recent survey by the Bank of International Settlements, the world's clearinghouse for central banks in Basel, Switzerland. The BIS is like the cashier's window at a racetrack or casino, where you'd place a bet or cash in chips, except on a massive scale: BIS is where the U.S. settles trade imbalances with Saudi Arabia for all that oil we guzzle and gives China IOUs for the tainted drugs and lead-based toys we buy.

To grasp how significant this five-fold bubble increase is, let's put that $516 trillion in the context of some other domestic and international monetary data:
  • U.S. annual gross domestic product is about $15 trillion
  • U.S. money supply is also about $15 trillion
  • Current proposed U.S. federal budget is $3 trillion
  • U.S. government's maximum legal debt is $9 trillion
  • U.S. mutual fund companies manage about $12 trillion
  • World's GDPs for all nations is approximately $50 trillion
  • Unfunded Social Security and Medicare benefits $50 trillion to $65 trillion
  • Total value of the world's real estate is estimated at about $75 trillion
  • Total value of world's stock and bond markets is more than $100 trillion
  • BIS valuation of world's derivatives back in 2002 was about $100 trillion
  • BIS 2007 valuation of the world's derivatives is now a whopping $516 trillion
Moreover, the folks at BIS tell me their estimate of $516 trillion only includes "transactions in which a major private dealer (bank) is involved on at least one side of the transaction," but doesn't include private deals between two "non-reporting entities." They did, however, add that their reporting central banks estimate that the coverage of the survey is around 95% on average.

Also, keep in mind that while the $516 trillion "notional" value (maximum in case of a meltdown) of the deals is a good measure of the market's size, the 2007 BIS study notes that the $11 trillion "gross market values provides a more accurate measure of the scale of financial risk transfer taking place in derivatives markets."

Bubbles, domino effects and the 'bad 2%'

However, while that may be true as far as the parties to an individual deal, there are broader risks to the world's economies. Remember back in 1998 when LTCM's little $5 billion loss nearly brought down the world's banking system. That "domino effect" is now repeating many times over, straining the world's monetary, economic and political system as the subprime housing mess metastasizes, taking the U.S. stock market and the world economy down with it.

This cascading "domino effect" was brilliantly described in "The $300 Trillion Time Bomb: If Buffett can't figure out derivatives, can anybody?" published early last year in Portfolio magazine, a couple months before the subprime meltdown. Columnist Jesse Eisinger's $300 trillion figure came from an earlier study of the derivatives market as it was growing from $100 trillion to $516 trillion over five years. Eisinger concluded:

"There's nothing intrinsically scary about derivatives, except when the bad 2% blow up." Unfortunately, that "bad 2%" did blow up a few months afterwards, even as Bernanke and Paulson were assuring America that the subprime mess was "contained."

Bottom line: Little things leverage a heck of a big wallop. It only takes a little spark from a "bad 2% deal" to ignite this $516 trillion weapon of mass destruction. Think of this entire unregulated derivatives market like an unsecured, unpredictable nuclear bomb in a Pakistan stockpile. It's only a matter of time.
World's newest and biggest 'black market'
The fact is, derivatives have become the world's biggest "black market," exceeding the illicit traffic in stuff like arms, drugs, alcohol, gambling, cigarettes, stolen art and pirated movies. Why? Because like all black markets, derivatives are a perfect way of getting rich while avoiding taxes and government regulations. And in today's slowdown, plus a volatile global market, Wall Street knows derivatives remain a lucrative business.

Recently Pimco's bond fund king Bill Gross said "What we are witnessing is essentially the breakdown of our modern-day banking system, a complex of leveraged lending so hard to understand that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke required a face-to-face refresher course from hedge fund managers in mid-August." In short, not only Warren Buffett, but Bond King Bill Gross, our Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, the Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and the rest of America's leaders can't "figure out" the world's $516 trillion derivatives.

Why? Gross says we are creating a new "shadow banking system." Derivatives are now not just risk management tools. As Gross and others see it, the real problem is that derivatives are now a new way of creating money outside the normal central bank liquidity rules. How? Because they're private contracts between two companies or institutions.

BIS is primarily a records-keeper, a toothless tiger that merely collects data giving a legitimacy and false sense of security to this chaotic "shadow banking system" that has become the world's biggest "black market."

That's crucial, folks. Why? Because central banks require reserves like stock brokers require margins, something backing up the transaction. Derivatives don't. They're not "real money." They're paper promises closer to "Monopoly" money than real U.S. dollars.

And it takes place outside normal business channels, out there in the "free market." That's the wonderful world of derivatives, and it's creating a massive bubble that could soon implode.

Comments? Yes, we want to hear your thoughts. Tell us what you think about derivatives: as "financial weapons of mass destruction;" as a "shadow banking system;" as a "black market;" as the next big bubble dangerously exposing us to that unpredictable "bad 2%." End of Story

Here's a guy who graduated from Paul-doh's Community College of Talking Down A Market With Talk Of Armageddon:


GLOBAL INVESTOR
'Doom and Gloom' has just begun
Bearish newsletter editor finds little cheer in most assets
By Barbara Kollmeyer, MarketWatch
Last update: 10:51 p.m. EST March 7, 2008
LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- "Dr. Doom" sure is living up to his name these days.

Speaking to a packed room of financial planners here on Friday, the famed money manager and newsletter editor Mark Faber literally brought down the house with talk of a worthless dollar, a helpless U.S. central bank and a dire situation in which investors have just a few avenues left to turn to.
"We may now have a hostile environment for all asset classes, with the exception of some real estate and commodities," said the editor of The Gloom, Doom and Boom Report, pointing out that since 2002 all asset classes have been rising -- a phenomenon that hasn't been seen for 200 years.

"The current synchronized global economic boom and universal all-encompassing asset bubble will lead to a colossal bust," he said.

Financial markets, currently in the grips of a credit bubble that worsens by the day, will see a protracted period of high volatility, in which 20% movements either up or down become common and the chances of making a lot of money become very difficult, he said.

He heaps much of the blame for global troubles on years of expansionary U.S. monetary policy that had a flawed fixation on U.S. consumption rather than boosting capital infrastructure and spending. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and his colleagues are clearly backed into a corner now as they cannot tighten money policy without causing a collapse of the entire financial system, he said.

"Easy money and debt growth has had a diminishing aspect on U.S. economic growth -- 'zero hour' may have already arrived," Faber said, adding that he thinks the U.S. is in the throes of recession and has been there for the past four to five months.

Indeed gloomy nonfarm payroll data for February further routed U.S. financial markets Friday, convincing many that recession had arrived.

From bearish to deep in the woods

Faber was spouting his gloomy philosophy a year ago when in an interview with Time magazine he predicted all assets were in danger owing to easy monetary policy in the U.S. and elsewhere, with investors getting too used to constantly rising asset prices across the board. "I believe we're in the midst of the greatest asset bubble ever," said Faber in the January 2007 article.

Fast-forward to the present and you can't blame some of that "I told you so" from Faber.

Indeed, credit markets have been routed and financial markets have seesawed since late October, with some notable bubbles in Asia and elsewhere last year. And he said he's not seeing enough bears out there, with investors still too optimistic.

"Before October, everyone was bullish -- rushing into assets and out of cash. Then...over the last three to six months, people went to buy the rallies. Sentiment is not that bearish. The mood has stayed optimistic and asset markets are still vulnerable," he said.

Nowhere was he bleaker than when addressing the beaten-down dollar, another victim of Fed policy which he said has ensured cash returns below the rate of inflation. "In the long term, the dollar is a doomed currency. It will go to zero," he said, which produced some nervous laughter from the audience.

Bright spots in emerging markets, commodities

Where he does see some options for investors is in some corners of emerging markets, noting that he believes the Chinese yuan could double in value in the next five years or so, which will raise the value of many emerging Asian currencies at the same time.

The Asian property market is also favorable in the long run, given low levels of urbanization and low levels of mortgage debt. He said fears that a Chinese property bubble are on the horizon are overblown given that home prices have gone down as a percentage of gross domestic product and as a percentage of household income.

Among his other emerging Asian investment themes: real estate; health care, such as pharmaceuticals and hospital management; local brands, which could replace international brands; and commodities such as sugar and cotton. Tourism is another big theme that he likes for the Asian markets, including hotels, casinos and airports, along with financial services such as banks, insurances companies and brokers. Infrastructure is also a key theme, with "bottlenecks everywhere," he said.

He is also keen on Cambodia, which he describes as having a relatively open economy, with a regulatory framework and government commitment to attract foreign direct investment. He said the country's young population, strategic location, abundant natural resources and exceptional access to trade privileges make it an attractive investment locale for light industry and agricultural businesses.

With the world population growing, especially in emerging markets, arable farmland will become an increasingly pricey commodity. He highlights First Farms, a Danish company founded by a group of farmers whose land was bought up by developers; Ukraine-based Landkom International and Astarta; and Black Earth Farming, a Swedish-run company that invests in Russian farmland and has an initial public offering forthcoming.

Other commodities worth a look: sugar cane in Brazil, palm oil in Indonesia or vegetables in China. End of Story

Finally, I can't resist this Business Week piece, mainly because of the awesome last line:

Recession Time

As the economy teeters between bad and worse, one question looms: What's the best course of action? Here's what can be done. And what can't

Kevin Van Aeist

Wall Street got its hopes up on Mar. 11. Elated by a Federal Reserve move to stop the credit crunch, the U.S. stock market posted its biggest one-day gain in five years, with the Dow Jones industrial average rising more than 400 points. Look out, though. Fed officials are the first to acknowledge that their initiative attacks only one problem, the liquidity squeeze at big banks. It does nothing about the central risk to the U.S. economy: an unprecedented crash in home values that is sapping households' wealth and confidence while putting an enormous strain on the banking system.

How bad will this downturn get? No one can know because we've never experienced such a headlong slide in the housing market—and this comes at a time when its current value of $20 trillion accounts for the vast majority of most families' wealth. Right now most economists expect the U.S. to experience a mild, short recession in 2008. But there is at least a possibility of a steeper decline that the traditional recession remedies—interest-rate cuts here, deficit spending there—won't be able to handle.

What should be done? For policymakers in Washington—Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, and congressional leaders—the sensible course is to insure against the small but scary possibility that things could go very wrong. The potential "insurance policies" are government actions that have a real cost but lessen the risk that a mild recession turns into something worse. The International Monetary Fund endorsed that approach on Mar. 12 as First Deputy Managing Director John Lipsky urged policymakers globally to "think the unthinkable and guard against a downward credit spiral."

Broadly speaking, policymakers have three options for putting a safety net under the economy. Each has its pros and cons, and the cons become most apparent when the measures are taken to an extreme. That's why a three-pronged approach that uses each option in moderation may be the best way to go.

The first option is to depend mainly on aggressive measures by the Fed to flood the economy with liquidity. That's already under way. On Mar. 11, the central bank announced an innovative program to lend $200 billion in high-grade Treasury securities to big commercial and investment banks. It will allow them to use, as collateral for the loans, valuable but harder-to-trade assets such as AAA-rated mortgage-backed securities. The measure could enable them to start lending and borrowing again. The cons: no direct help for distressed homeowners who don't qualify for refinancing.

A second option would be some sort of a government-led bailout of homeowners, which reduces the burden of looming debt and high interest rates, and limits foreclosures. The third option would be assistance to the lenders and holders of mortgage-backed securities in an effort to thaw the credit markets. The trouble is, both of these options are seen as unfair by those who don't require bailouts. And it's up in the air who would have to bear the biggest share of the housing-related losses: homeowners, investors, or taxpayers.

It's indisputable, though, what policy changes cannot accomplish. There's no way to stop home prices from falling; they got way too high, and the current crisis won't end until they get back to what the market concludes is a sustainable level. It's not reasonable to try to avoid a recession, either. When a sector as huge as housing goes into a deep dive, it's pretty much inevitable that the rest of the economy will be affected. "We saw a once-in-a-hundred-years runup in housing prices, and now we're seeing a once-in-a-hundred-years collapse," says Harvard University economist Kenneth S. Rogoff. "It's very, very difficult to do much about it."

"GAMBLERS, LIARS, AND SLEAZY LENDERS"

The airwaves and blogosphere are alive with people who say nothing should be done. They argue that intervening now would only delay the inevitable liquidation of credit-fueled excesses. "Under proposed bailouts, responsible people lose and have to give their money to gamblers, liars, and sleazy lenders,"

And finally, journalists (not in Bend) are actually trying to grope for a bottom:

Mind the Gap: Home-Price Downside

By SCOTT PATTERSON
March 13, 2008

The economic balance hangs in large part on how much further home prices will fall. A look at one important measure -- the relationship between home prices and household income -- suggests we might not even be halfway there.

Over the long run, home prices and income should march along the same path. As households earn more, they can afford to pay for more expensive homes.

But the two can get out of whack. During much of the 1990s, incomes grew faster than home prices. The landscape shifted around 2000. From the start of the decade through the mid-2006 peak, home prices nearly doubled, thanks in part to falling interest rates. Over the same period, income per household rose just 26%, according to Moody's Economy.com.

In certain states, the disparity was extreme. Seven states, including California, Florida and Arizona, saw annualized growth in home prices outpace income growth by 10 percentage points from 2002 through 2006, according to housing expert Thomas Lawler.

The difference between income growth and home prices has started to narrow. Home prices were down 10% through the fourth quarter from their peak in mid-2006, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller national home-price index. But to bring prices in line with incomes, they will need to fall further. If incomes continue to grow in the next year as they have in the past decade -- probably an optimistic assumption -- it would take a 9% to 12% drop in home prices to bring the two measures in line with each other.

In states that saw bigger housing bubbles, the correction will be more severe, says Mr. Lawler.

It is also possible that home prices will overshoot on the downside, just as they did on the upside. Goldman Sachs economists say prices could fall another 15%. Merrill Lynch economists say they could drop another 20% to 30%. Both banks have been more bearish than others on the economy -- and so far look correct to have been so pessimistic.

Retailing Likely Checks In With More Glum Numbers

Consumer spending is one potential casualty of falling home prices. When home values fall, households have less home equity to tap when they want to buy a new flat-screen television.

Today's February retail-sales report from the Commerce Department could provide evidence of that. Sales were up 3.9% in January from a year earlier. That paled in comparison with year-over-year gains of more than 6% that prevailed from 2004 to 2006. It was also less than the 4.3% increase in consumer-price inflation registered in January from a year earlier.

Economists don't expect strong numbers for February. On average, they see an increase of 0.1% from the month before. Auto makers and retailers reported a slow February -- with the exception of Wal-Mart Stores and other discounters, which benefited as shoppers tightened their purse strings. The Federal Reserve's latest "beige book" compilation of economic anecdotes described retail sales as "below plan, downbeat, weak, or having softened" in most of the country since mid-January.

Tax rebates might temporarily boost spending again later this year. But consumers are walking into pretty stiff headwinds.

Funny how a bubble ends so much worse than anyone thinks possible, even supposed "Smart People":

Bear Stearns Co, Inc., 10 year chart

I don't want to repeat any old advice, it's too late. Just look at the BSC chart, and realize that WE are about 18 months behind. And at least 5X more volatile than the rest of the country.

But All Is Well In Bend, right?

No pot of gold: Bend's red ink soars to $20 million

Posted: March 14, 2008 10:50 PM


City's first 2-year budget taking major hit from downturn

By Barney Lerten, KTVZ.COM

When Bend city councilors get their latest update on the city's distressed budget Monday evening, they'll have to look hard for a St. Patrick's Day rainbow. And even if they find it, there surely won't be a pot of gold at the end of it - not with a projected shortfall nearing $20 million for the city's first two-year budget.

A "summary of revenue shortfalls for the 2007-09 biennium," distributed to the public and councilors Friday, shows the current fiscal year's revenue is $7.6 million below projections - and for 2008-09, the current best guess is for a gap of more than $12 million between expectations and reality.

The biggest hits in the update provided by Finance Director Sonia Andrews are of little surprise: planning, building and engineering fees, along with franchise fees and ambulance and FireMed revenue. Planning fees are expected to be down 50 percent from expectations, or $2.1 million for 2007-08, rising to 59 percent, or off almost $3 million in the year starting July 1.

"With the radical drop in residential housing starts, we have to revise our development revenue estimates downwards," Andrews wrote. "Although commercial building activity continued, the decline in residential activity has simply been too great."

"The shortfalls are in revenues that we depend on for operations," she continued. "For the size of these shortfalls, every department will need to make some reductions for FY 2008-09, and certain budget reductions will affect service levels."

The city already has laid off 10 workers this year and not filled 25 vacancies, along with other cuts in materials and services, and vehicle and equipment purchases.

City departments are scheduled to meet with Interim City Manager Eric King over the next two weeks to finalize budget reduction proposals for the coming budget year, to be presented to the city council and budget committee in April.

On Wednesday night, the council's work session will focus largely on councilors' stated 2008 goals, which include financial stability, community relations, the Urban Growth Boundary expansion, Juniper Ridge and transit.

Well, wait a minute. That sounds like Bad News! That sounds like our Benevolent Leaders don't know what they're doing! I thought in Bend we hold certain truths to be self-evident, and such, right? What happened to That Stuff Only Happens To Other Guys, Much Stupider Than Us? What happened to stuff like this Blast From The Past from Life Is Good:

"Look to CACB-Short... if he's right, we'll look back and say, "Hmmmph.". If he's wrong, well....." He bought his short position in October @ 30.4 and it closed yesterday @ 30.91. When he bought the position the prediction was that if a major stockholder sold a large number of "thinly traded" stocks, CABC would be crushed. On November 29, 3 million shares were sold (11% of the outstanding shares). The stock price barely moved in this huge sale that tripled the previous volume record. It doesn't seem to me there is any question that CABC shorter is under water on his investment, and that he totally missed his bet on how a major sale would affect the stock. Thaks to BEM for resetting the page with a more interesting tone. Life is Good

What has happened to:


We Are Bend Oregon, And We Are Different.
We are smarter than the rest, we are better than the rest.
What Happened?

Finally, here are some mid-month sales stats. If you're afraid the Bust will Never Come, this should put your fears to rest.

Here are the mid March stats: As of 3/14/08

36 Sold @ 261k med.

07 95 Sold @ 358k med.

05 118 Sold @250k med.

1997 42 Sold @123k med.

So we are seeing 1997 volume and 2005 medians....SO FAR

Just somthing to chew on. The pending sale volume is going up..as it does this time of year.

And a final word from Jon Markman at msn.com

Although it seems like the debt crisis has been with us for a long time, true panic has been kept at bay because the size of the potential losses has been underestimated at the same time that the redemptive power of government entities like the Federal Reserve has been overestimated.

It's only in the past couple of weeks that investors have been able to determine the potential scope of damage to companies outside banks and brokerages, and those estimates frighten even jaded players.

One leading hedge fund reported in an internal memo this week that "the threat of a death spiral hangs over us" and added, "There is insufficient time for those with the wrong positions to reposition and there is even insufficient time for those with reasonable positions to just get out of the way."


I don't have to really be "negative" anymore. I think it's covered.
$261K medians? Dang it, I could have used that burrito!

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Bewert said...

Re: kudos' to Timmy

Dammit, that's pissing me off. I was the one to notice first:

Meanwhile in reality, 39 NODs and counting in Deschutes County for March. A couple biggees: Desert Sun Holdings, LLC for over $1 million, NOD filed yesterday, and Aspen Landing, LLC, for over $3.5 million, filed 3/7/08.

Ain't over 'til the fat lady is done singing and her ass is sitting on the porch of an STD east of 27th...

March 12, 2008 7:09 AM

Aspen Landing had a second NOD filed against them on the 7th as well, on a $9+ million land dev loan.

I think we're starting to see the local collateral damage of the global liquidity crisis. It's hitting home, pushing builders over the edge as they can't refinance and hold on anymore. Like that quote in the Bloomberg article above about expecting more hedge fund defaults soon as so many have been just hanging on by their fingernails. Same with our local developers.

March 12, 2008 7:14 AM


Three more NOD's filed today. So far this month, 42 and counting.

I wonder how that compares to Deschutes County home sales.

Actually, if you count the Aspen Landing and Desert Sun NODs, there are probably 15-20 total lots there. Don't know how many partial homes.

March 12, 2008 4:17 PM


Now dammit, Andrew Moore and all the rest of you must bow before my morning research.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


Dammit, that's pissing me off. I was the one to notice first:


Well, Holy Shit!

It was Bruce FIRST!

Good Job, Brucey!

I was only checking this weeks comments :-(

tim said...

It's GOOD that Andrew Moore wrote the foreclosure piece. We get out news fast here (I wasn't the first to notice it, but I think I was the first to mention it online), but a lot of people in Bend are passive. A newspaper piece, even if only read by a few, gets mentioned at the water cooler.

A few weeks ago from the Bulletin we hear (finally, after we'd been seeing and saying it for months) that Bend Office Condos are a disaster. That's something.

We've heard that Randy needs a local (!) lender to help him out. Good luck Randy! Yeah, our local lenders are dying to get some more X-rated hot foreclosure action. Maybe hit up Umpqua or Cascade. They LOVE losing money, apparently.

Now, Mr. Moore, how about that Plaza piece? How about those Newport Moderns? (Even the dorky old Craftsmen across the street can't seem to sell.) How about sob stories from our multiple-default flippers that the California papers somehow manage to come up with, even if they golf with advertisers?

"Golf with advertisers." I love that quote. Sounds so much like, "Hello, I'm an important journalist who has been compromised." I can't believe he said it. That was a mistake.

Good for Andrew Moore for writing this up. We have to bring the heat every time. Journalists want to be admired. They hate to be mocked. So stick and carrot here.

Good job Andrew. It's about time.

I'd like to say something about Northwest Crossing. There are a couple streets in there with some good houses. But I really think they are junking it up with that crap they're building along NW Crossing Street. These are, I believe, commercial/retail on the bottom and living on the top. Now the goofy idea here is you are supposed to have your business on the bottom and live on the top. That is CRAZY. This is not Boston. This is not New York. What the hell kind of business do you have down there? A Quilt Shop. A laundromat? An Internet Company? A Pizzeria? Yeah right. Finding someone who wants to try to run a business there and actually live above it is nuts. Reality: Investor buys the building, rents the top out for not enough money, and runs a failing business on the bottom, or leases to someone running a failing business.

Then near Compass park we have a whole bunch of weird duplexes and multiplexes builders tried to sell for the price of a mansion. Stupid. And there's talk of low-income housing for seniors in the back.

Then along the front we have a long, long line of houses (more like hot potatoes that people from out of town buy by accident and then sell to the next sucker) right on Mt. Washington, which no other neighborhood was stupid enough to do.

This is not bait-and-switch, because anyone who cared enough to find out when they bought could have seen all this mixed-use stuff coming. It's just "build the good stuff first and once everyone has paid based on the good stuff, throw the junky stuff in last."

Who the heck moves into those mixed commercial/residential attics? Who moves into those overpriced multiplexes? Who moves into those apartments? Who lives feet away from Mt. Washington when you could pay less for a decent house in a different neighborhood?

tim said...

Bruce was first, good on him. I guess I was just the first to focus on it and get people talking. I posted here and then the Who's Going Down thread at bendBB. But Bruce gets the win.

I didn't see Bruce's either until he mentioned it later. He had successfully buried it.

That's why you have to be brief. I miss a lot of what Bruce says because of the boring politics.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Good luck Randy! Yeah, our local lenders are dying to get some more X-rated hot foreclosure action.

I think Sebastian is gunning for the Bear Stearns CEO position...


"No, no, no...everything is fine! It's GREAT! It's better than Great! No problems! This foreclosure means absolutely nothing! Fine & dandy!"

tim said...

Rereading the story, I find myself drawn to this paragraph...

"Elsewhere in Bend, Buena Vista Custom Homes has rented 18 of the 29 homes in its Forum Meadows development near St. Charles Bend since efforts to sell the homes in mid-December at auction failed to produce a single sale, said Mike Higgins, a spokesman for the Lake Oswego-based builder."

Man, builders HATE to rent out new houses. This is one unhappy builder, guaranteed.

foz said...

Be interesting to know if his loan was called and that put him into default or if he had been missing payments. Either way, not a good time to be looking for new financing. Maybe the city can bail him out.

Anonymous said...

Yes, randy is the funniest guy today, "It's NOT bends fault, Its not my fault"


"Who would have known?"

"Never Bends fault, this is paradise"

"Never Randys fault, hes a green builder"

We don't call it the BULL for nothing.

This week you have gotten a small sample of what the next 1-2 years is going to be like, everyday around here.

Bewert said...

Re: builders hate...

The next line is even more telling:

"It was done in a loss position but it was better than the alternative," Higgins said. "If we can't sell them, we've got to do something...Builders right now are just trying to make the mess go away."

Anonymous said...

Tim,

Just last week in the SE section of NWXC they started a whole bunch of 1,000 sqft crap-shacks,

They poured the foundation last week, and yesterday the particle board walls were already up.

I think theres going to be a lot of building in NWXC this spring, given the start, and these homes will sell for less than $200k, which means that NWXC is surrounded by poverty, you better build a system of concentric gates quick like Pronghorn, and you NWXC Sneetches had better wear you 'stars' front¢er.

Last year HOLLERN changed rules, now anyone can buy a lot at NWXC and anyone can build, all the exclusivity is gone forever. Just another STD in Siberian BEnd, albeit with shops for the homeless to buy alcohol.

Quimby said...

Watching the Jim Rogers Youtube links...

Damn, Maria B. on CNBC looks HORRIBLE!!! She used to be fairly attractive but now she looks like her plastic surgeon's best customer. She should move to Bend, she'd fit in well.

Anonymous said...

"It was done in a loss position but it was better than the alternative," Higgins said. "If we can't sell them, we've got to do something...Builders right now are just trying to make the mess go away."

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Builders, build, and will continue to build, now that labor is running 1/4 of 2004, and materials under 1/2 of 2004, and lots are down 1/2 of 2004, it is now possible to build small crap-shacks in good locations for $200k, and poor locations for $100k.

This of course will squeeze all prior down to the same,

All crap-shacks in Bend are going down to $120k median.

What is a crap-shack 'newbie', its a home built in Bend in the last six years, usually in a sub-division ( 'resort' ). Typically marketed to retirees.

Home prices will collapse, rents will collapse, and the housing glut will continue to rise. The city of Bend wants permits, its their blood, the builders still don't have to pay the actual SDC cost, so they can still make a profit even now.

If you can build a $150k home in BEND, you can make it pencil as a rental, and investors know this. Trouble is eventually we're going to run out of renters.

What's going to happen very quickly is its going to be cheaper to buy, than rent. There are already many new homes going up all over the region under $100k.

It's going to be a fucking MESS, and it might even drive the median for these Siberian STD's down to $50k, who knows, I see NO end in sight. It's just that now instead of mcMansions, its 'cabin' crap-shacks.

The new stuff going up at NWXC on the SE side, the two-car garages, are bigger than the living space. Which is fine, but it gives you an idea of what they're now building.

The GLUT will continue, and its largely HOLLERN. HE MUST SELL his lots, and builders MUST build.

HOLLERN can afford to sell the lots very cheap, and so long as the CITY keeps the STD's at 25% of actual, the builders will build. Today the cost for each home is still $60k, but the city only charges a builder $12k ( or close ), once the city charges these builders the actualy, then it will all come to a grinding halt.

Do hold your fucking breath, as city-hall, and city-staff is 90% builders,realtors, HOA collectors, excavators, and consultants.

The businesss of BEND will continue to be HOMES for a long time, we're still 1-2 years behind the curve, everywhere else the money has been turned off, but NOT Bend, you can still get money in BEND, to build, and build, and build.

This is all because of the subsidized SDC, eventually this place will be such a mess, that BEND will qualify for a FEDERAL-SEWAGE grant for $1BILLION, ... so eventually it will be a win-win for all.

Anonymous said...

Tim,

Good to tell us your an admitted visitor-sucker.

IN NWXC to boot!

Tell us more?

Every time I walk through there I still get the stare, it always seems to be non-walking friendly.

We need MORE visitor-suckers to come clean, to cleanse themselves, and ask the renters for emotional support.

tim said...

>>This is all because of the subsidized SDC, eventually this place will be such a mess, that BEND will qualify for a FEDERAL-SEWAGE grant for $1BILLION, ... so eventually it will be a win-win for all.

Now that's an interesting thought. Did you say that before? I thought I was paying attention to all the crap talk, but maybe I missed some of it.

If Bend gets to the point where its sewer problem causes it to smell like poop, that's the end. Places with "smell" reputations can't shake them, and it's a PERMANENT drag on valuations. Springfield & Salem Oregon. New Jersey. Pittsburgh. Even when the smell is cleaned up, you have reputation-cost.

Anonymous said...

Costa seems to have a tin-ear. Not a good thing for a newspaper editor.

I quit reading the editorial page years ago.

I'm wondering when and if this is going to hit the national news.

All because of a paper tiger. I very much doubt COBA could've gotten everyone to quit advertising.

But I think it is just the smoozy, sleezy, birds-of-a-feather country club atmosphere that Costa is lost in that made him chose to subvert the credibility.

That and being a little to the right of Gengis Khan.

tim said...

Actually not in NWX myself, but kids school is there so I watch it.

I moved here for a job in early 2005. Sold my old house in another city. Almost bought, but then started to think hard about it. Everyone said, "buy quick, it's going up fast!" I thought, when have I heard that before?

You can call me a fool for moving to Bend, I guess. But can you call me a fool for being a renter, given that I moved here in 2005? A lot of people bought when I didn't.

Anonymous said...

Be interesting to know if his loan was called and that put him into default or if he had been missing payments. Either way, not a good time to be looking for new financing. Maybe the city can bail him out.

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Randy is not part of the 'good old boyz' of BEND, he's a newbie, from the valley and 'benders' will first bail there own out, and only then the valley boyz.

Anonymous said...

I moved here for a job in early 2005. Sold my old house in another city. Almost bought, but then started to think hard about it.

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Ok, so you are a visitor-renter, as I thought, and NOT a visitor-sucker ( as you didn't BUY a home ).

Anonymous said...

That and being a little to the right of Gengis Khan.

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Welcome to the NEW Bend, a land for Rush Limbaugh & Co, to retire.

tim said...

Well, I might be a sucker just for being a visitor.

I'm going to Fred Meyer. I'll drive around Sebastianland on my way.

Anonymous said...

If Bend gets to the point where its sewer problem causes it to smell like poop, that's the end.

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I will never be like Albany, those are mills of rotting wood fiber,

In Bend, it will be toilets back-flowing here&there, ... thus it will be individual homes that wreak of shit, ... here & there, ... its more than just sewage, its flood control, water, schools, roads, ... YOU can't 10X your population, and housing, and NOT 10X your infrastructure, this town tried to defer all costs to the next guy, so they could retire rich.

The entire SDC issue is the biggest PONZI scheme in BEND, and is still going on.

Do you know there is a ballot for May 08, that says that ALL building-permits MUST represent actual cost?? Go to "infrastucture first bend", there is a website, ... and ways you can get involved.

Anonymous said...

Well, I might be a sucker just for being a visitor.


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A sucker is STUCK here, your a free man.

Anonymous said...

Tim, Read the below, and this goes for you as well BRUCE-PUSSY this is WAY more important than JR, as that is a DEAD HORSE, brucey if you want to get where the action is, and make a name for yourself, you should have a website on this issue and focus on this issue in city-hall meetings, with JR you'll go NO WHERE, you make some progress on this issue, and people in BEND really will love you, like you have always wanted, most of bend doesn't give a fuck about JR. Never have, never will.

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tim said...

>>In Bend, it will be toilets back-flowing here&there, ... thus it will be individual homes that wreak of shit, ... here & there, ... its more than just sewage, its flood control, water, schools, roads,...

Here's the thing. I can imagine a blog five years from now called "Bend Stinks" that simply documents problems people are having with the sewers. Californians go to their computers to read about marvelous Bend, and they see "Bend Stinks."

This can happen now. Cities, companies, people--all have to worry about a reputational crisis spread across the web. How many houses or neighborhoods need to smell like feces before that's what people know about Bend?

Infrastructure is something you can avoid for a while, but not forever. There's a whole science of the trade-offs between maintenance and waiting for failure--there's opportunity cost and liability cost and all sorts of other considerations--even software to help you figure it out. It seems obvious that Bend's decisions were not made scientifically, but politically, and are therefore not optimized economically, but instead decided for the economic benefit of those with power.

tim said...

Bruce, the reason no one cares about Juniper Ridge is that the screw ups there are already done. The city councilors didn't debate it because the debate would have just been about how lousy, crooked, and dumb they were.

Only question left at JR is are they going to continue to screw it up?

Anonymous said...

Infrastructure is something you can avoid for a while, but not forever.

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Last night I got into the 'stupid' denial debate about BEND being #1 four years in a row.

It didn't happen by accident.

1.) Over-Marketing Hyping, Imaging, Visioning with taxpayer dollars.
2.) BUSH free-money, low interest, zero-down, int only, 5/1 arms
3.) Builders/Developers didn't have to pay actual cost of infrastructure, all SDC's were deferred forever (tetherow is still playing this game)

All things being equal 1&2 was done by everyone during the bubble, but few places were STUPID enough to do #3, to MAKE SEBASTIAN, HOLLERN, ... et-al RICH.

Bend isn't just going down, in terms of bubble deflation, its going down in DEBT that is un-heard of per-capita, and still with 1,000's low-income housing going into all the high-end subdivisions, were going to see everything plummet over-night Bend is already there, on the internet, hell google "bend,oregon", on urban-dictionary, and see what you get, its NOT pretty. The word is out.

Amongst the kids, its a KNOWN fact that Bend ain't cool. It's a town of broke Geriatric farts on MTN bikes, or broke REHO's pushing their SUV. It's NOT pretty, its NOT cool.

Today ALL of our developer/builders are going BK, thus they'll never have to pay their deferred SDC. Nobody will, the LLC protects the developer, he already got rich.

Bend, Oregon is FRAUD, ran by frauds, and continues so, just read the 'infrastructure first' status above, city-hall is still letting developers/builders build and get rich without paying actual cost! Why?? Because they own the fucking town,

Anonymous said...

Yes, HUMMEL walked back in Spring of 2007 for a reason, he didn't want to go to jail, over the Dec 12, 2006 Les Schwab sales of JR.

All thats going on now is covering the ass, just wait until this June 2008, when the INNof7thMTN case goes to court, sit there bruce, take notes, and get your bend-weekly to cover your story. Friedman, Johnson, Capell, they're all going down, it just takes time.

Bewert said...

Just put up a pictorial tour of Aspen Rim on BEM's board. Off to school for now.

Anonymous said...

Blogger timothy said...

Bruce, the reason no one cares about Juniper Ridge is that the screw ups there are already done.

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Thanks TIM, right its DONE, and Les Schwab ( Borgman ) put in the fix, buy putting $3M in LS money to send KURATEK away, to avoid a civil lawsuit that would have made it all public.

Eventually this is going to bring Borman ( CEO LS ) down,

Look at the fucking $20M missing where is it??

$15M to Knife-River to blast the rock at LS Campuss @ JR
$5M to Knife-River to buy a building they couldn't sell

That's $20M right there that the city blew, for what?? To get Knife-River, and Les Schwab to go along with the $3M Kuratek payoff.

If the BULL or SORE has been doing their job 04,05,06,07 we wouldn't be short $20M, but we are, its a fact lets move.

Now lets focus on the +$2B SDC shortfall, yes over two billion dollars are MISSING, and SEBASTIAN/HOLLERN-et-al got the fucking money. They won, we lost.

Anonymous said...

Just put up a pictorial tour of Aspen Rim on BEM's board. Off to school for now.

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See that's the inherent problem here with priority's, SEBASTIAN is out, its over, all these pic's of STD's that are unloved, will NEVER fix fucking Bend.

Our problems are keeping the 'crooks' ( defined earlier ) from robbing the fucking city.

What is our "ROMAN" bruce pussy doing while Bend is burning? Taking photos of siberian STD's, and posting them on BENDBB, like any of this fucking matters!

It doesn't want matters is keeping the eye on the ball, and that be the CROOKS that run Fraudulent BEND.

Brucey, seems incapable of seeing the fucking ball.

tim said...

Bruce's pictures, like Butter's, keep people interested. In Rome, you need a certain amount of circus. Sebastian and Aspen are circus.

So I think Bruce's efforts there are reasonable.

But yeah, I still haven't figured Bruce out. He's about my age, been programming a long time like me, but really doesn't think or act like me. Which is fine. But I can't figure out what he really wants to do. Seems scatter-shot to me. But maybe there's a method to the madness.

Bruce, you want to maybe just tell us what the hell you WANT to do here?

Obviously, I'm a lazy ass. But you have enough energy you should be able to get something done. But WHAT IS IT?

Bewert said...

Re: Only question left at JR is are they going to continue to screw it up?

They've got another 1480 acres with which to do so. That scares me.

Timmy, I haven't really figured it out yet, either. When I started really looking, the fires were everywhere. And it's only gotten worse. Cleaning up the Exec Session issue is first, and then I don't know yet.

My three main themes these days are transparency, fiscal discipline, and jobs not housing, especially at JR. Whatever I do will be related to those somehow.

Re: Infrastructure First

I have a petition sheet if you want to sign it. I was very excited about them at first, but I think it lacks any enforcement mechanism. Good effort, though, and I think they have enough sigs to get it on the ballot this fall.

Anonymous said...

Did I miss anyone you fucking slimey cunts??

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Yes you did -- what about people over 10 years in Bend who rent? there must be some.

So need one more in "Buster's Complete BB2 Lexicon." I can't cut and paste it to my computer until it's complete!

By the way ... thanks for welcoming (uhhh sorta) the newbies.

BTW, I was seriously thinking of buying a house in Bend last year, until I read this blog. One RE agent told me "NWX would be perfect for you -- a nice mix of people and lots of great shops." I almost got suckered in. You've probably saved more than one person from unknowingly joining the Suckers list. Thanks!

Rent on Newbies!

Anonymous said...

"Bruce, you want to maybe just tell us what the hell you WANT to do here?"


I think of Bruce as 'Kramer' on the Seinfeld TV show ... lives a simple life, always got a scheme going on, and has some cash in-flow from something he did years ago....., makes you laugh when he walks in the room -- love that Kramer.





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Anonymous said...

Yes you did -- what about people over 10 years in Bend who rent? there must be some.

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Your classified as oldtimer-renters, nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with anything,

Now if you said you were a CROOK ( is/was defined ), now that somes baaaaaad Bend shit.

Anonymous said...

Re: Only question left at JR is are they going to continue to screw it up?

They've got another 1480 acres with which to do so. That scares me.

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Bruce-PUSSY you just don't fucking GET-IT, it cost the city $800k/acre just to have Knife-River BLOW the fucking rock on that SHIT-PILE.

Nobody is going to spend a $1Million/acre for 'shovel-ready', unless its picked up by the taxpayer, but I THOUGHT YOU CUNTS said JR was about making money, not about losing money, but wait, its corporate welfare for knife-river and les-schwab, so it MUST be good right?

No brucey, if FUCK KURATEK finds some fucking sucker to put $40M into his share of the fucking ROCK-OUT-CROPPING I want to watch it all happen.

BRUCE CUNT FUCKING PUSSY, JR is Badlands, there's a fucking reason the county sold to the city for $1 ( ONE DOLLAR ), and the city paid too much.

It's over brucey, and start fucking paying attention to whats important, the FUTURE of BEND.

Bewert said...

Re: Kramer

He has hair. Besides, I'm still enlarging on what I started almost 20 years ago. I have four projects for that going, plus another new website for another project. I've always been good at multi-tasking. I tend to just keep taking a step at a time, and stuff get done eventually.

Anonymous said...

Bruce, you want to maybe just tell us what the hell you WANT to do here?


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Timmy, I have been reading and watching Bruce-Pussy since the day he got here, and I know what he wants.

"HE wants to be loved"

Early on he said that everyone would love him if opened the secret door of city-hall.

I just about choked, been in politics too long to know that the essential truth really is that those who bring the bad news, will meet untimely deaths, its always been this way. Thus its essential to be anonymous.

Now brucey-pussy wants people to like him, and thats fine, buster can give a fuck about love from a bunch of sucker-chumps.

It's all about love, and I want to see brucey be loved, thus if he can stay focussed on what's important, he'll make name for himself, and get elected and everyone will love him for one term.

Like you already said tim, then you got to quit after your first term, because everyday your making friends your making enemy's, in this town, once we clean out the builders/developers from city-hall, there is going to be a lot of angry people, and the pendulum will swing it always does, and in a generation we'll have another bubble, amnesia.

For now its NO mystery about what our pussy wants, and he's got a good heart, thats what makes him our naive pussy. He just needs lots of gentle guidance, and re-enforcement and prioritizing.

He's like a kid in a candy store.

Newbies we only call bruce-pussy, the 'pussy' word because of his child-like innocence, its not meant to be hateful, mean, or cruel spirited.

tim said...

That Newport Modern that was pending then unpending?

Repending.

Perhaps the first lender was a fail and we're on to the second?

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. Why does Costa need to stay home to take care of Gerbils??

Anonymous said...

March 20, 2008: Vol. 4, Issue No. 16
Your core business is everything. Do not neglect it.

Bear Stearns strayed from its core business.

Powered by greed, the firm got into creating indecipherably complex investment funds designed to cover the tracks of indecipherably complex consumer home loan contracts.

Nobody understood this stuff. Not Bear Stearns’ managing directors, not the sales people hawking this fatuous crap. Not the greedy investors that saw obscene returns. Not the original mortgage lenders. And certainly not the dodos who got way in over their heads borrowing to buy homes by signing adjustable rate mortgage contracts that sucked them dry.

But hey, if I was a renter and was offered a $220,000 loan to buy a $200,000 home, who is the dodo—I or the lender? I get to live like royalty, and if I find I cannot afford it, I become a “mortgage walker” who hands the house keys to the lender and says ta-ta.

The operative rule of thumb: If a thing looks too good to be true, it is.

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When I mentioned the Caymans and Vanuatu as places to hide money to a wealthy German friend, he shook his head. “Liechtenstein,” he said. “That’s where you want to put your money—where it will be safe, and your identity will be protected.”

Last Valentine’s Day, the CEO of Deutsche Post AG and a director of Morgan Stanley, Klaus Zumwinkel, was subjected to a perp walk by German prosecutors with TV cameras rolling outside his home in the suburbs of Cologne, Germany. He was suspected of evading $1.46 million in taxes by hiding money in Liechtenstein.

http://bcs.targetmarketingmag.com/story/story.php?sid=93804

Anonymous said...

Bruce, Here's one for you, on how spitzer was brought down by BUSH spying, because spitzer was on his way to crimialize BUSH home-loan programs.

The $200 billion bail-out for predator banks and Spitzer charges are intimately linked


While New York Governor Eliot Spitzer was paying an ‘escort’ $4,300 in a hotel room in Washington, just down the road, George Bush’s new Federal Reserve Board Chairman, Ben Bernanke, was secretly handing over $200 billion in a tryst with mortgage bank industry speculators.

Both acts were wanton, wicked and lewd. But there’s a BIG difference. The Governor was using his own checkbook. Bush’s man Bernanke was using ours.

This week, Bernanke’s Fed, for the first time in its history, loaned a selected coterie of banks one-fifth of a trillion dollars to guarantee these banks’ mortgage-backed junk bonds. The deluge of public loot was an eye-popping windfall to the very banking predators who have brought two million families to the brink of foreclosure.

Up until Wednesday, there was one single, lonely politician who stood in the way of this creepy little assignation at the bankers’ bordello: Eliot Spitzer.

Who are they kidding? Spitzer’s lynching and the bankers’ enriching are intimately tied.

How? Follow the money.

The press has swallowed Wall Street’s line that millions of US families are about to lose their homes because they bought homes they couldn’t afford or took loans too big for their wallets. Ba-LON-ey. That’s blaming the victim.

Here’s what happened. Since the Bush regime came to power, a new species of loan became the norm, the ‘sub-prime’ mortgage and it’s variants including loans with teeny “introductory” interest rates. From out of nowhere, a company called ‘Countrywide’ became America’s top mortgage lender, accounting for one in five home loans, a large chuck of these ‘sub-prime.’

Here’s how it worked: The Grinning Family, with US average household income, gets a $200,000 mortgage at 4% for two years. Their $955 a month payment is 25% of their income. No problem. Their banker promises them a new mortgage, again at the cheap rate, in two years. But in two years, the promise ain’t worth a can of spam and the Grinnings are told to scram - because their house is now worth less than the mortgage. Now, the mortgage hits 9% or $1,609 plus fees to recover the “discount” they had for two years. Suddenly, payments equal 42% to 50% of pre-tax income. Grinnings move into their Toyota.

Now, what kind of American is ‘sub-prime.’ Guess. No peeking. Here’s a hint: 73% of HIGH INCOME Black and Hispanic borrowers were given sub-prime loans versus 17% of similar-income Whites. Dark-skinned borrowers aren’t stupid – they had no choice. They were ‘steered’ as it’s called in the mortgage sharking business.

‘Steering,’ sub-prime loans with usurious kickers, fake inducements to over-borrow, called ‘fraudulent conveyance’ or ‘predatory lending’ under US law, were almost completely forbidden in the olden days (Clinton Administration and earlier) by federal regulators and state laws as nothing more than fancy loan-sharking.

But when the Bush regime took over, Countrywide and its banking brethren were told to party hardy – it was OK now to steer’m, fake’m, charge’m and take’m.

But there was this annoying party-pooper. The Attorney General of New York, Eliot Spitzer, who sued these guys to a fare-thee-well. Or tried to.

Instead of regulating the banks that had run amok, Bush’s regulators went on the warpath against Spitzer and states attempting to stop predatory practices. Making an unprecedented use of the legal power of “federal pre-emption,” Bush-bots ordered the states to NOT enforce their consumer protection laws.

Indeed, the feds actually filed a lawsuit to block Spitzer’s investigation of ugly racial mortgage steering. Bush’s banking buddies were especially steamed that Spitzer hammered bank practices across the nation using New York State laws.

Spitzer not only took on Countrywide, he took on their predatory enablers in the investment banking community. Behind Countrywide was the Mother Shark, its funder and now owner, Bank of America. Others joined the sharkfest: Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and Citigroup’s Citibank made mortgage usury their major profit centers. They did this through a bit of financial legerdemain called “securitization.”

What that means is that they took a bunch of junk mortgages, like the Grinnings, loans about to go down the toilet and re-packaged them into “tranches” of bonds which were stamped “AAA” - top grade - by bond rating agencies. These gold-painted turds were sold as sparkling safe investments to US school district pension funds and town governments in Finland (really).

When the housing bubble burst and the paint flaked off, investors were left with the poop and the bankers were left with bonuses. Countrywide’s top man, Angelo Mozilo, will ‘earn’ a $77 million buy-out bonus this year on top of the $656 million - over half a billion dollars – he pulled in from 1998 through 2007.

But there were rumblings that the party would soon be over. Angry regulators, burned investors and the weight of millions of homes about to be boarded up were causing the sharks to sink. Countrywide’s stock was down 50%, and Citigroup was off 38%, not pleasing to the Gulf sheiks who now control its biggest share blocks.

Then, on Wednesday of this week, the unthinkable happened. Carlyle Capital went bankrupt. Who? That’s Carlyle as in Carlyle Group. James Baker, Senior Counsel. Notable partners, former and past: George Bush, the Bin Laden family and more dictators, potentates, pirates and presidents than you can count.

The Fed had to act. Bernanke opened the vault and dumped $200 billion on the poor little suffering bankers. They got the public treasure – and got to keep the Grinning’s house. There was no ‘quid’ of a foreclosure moratorium for the ‘pro quo’ of public bail-out. Not one family was saved – but not one banker was left behind.

Every mortgage sharking operation shot up in value. Mozilo’s Countrywide stock rose 17% in one day. The Citi sheiks saw their company’s stock rise $10 billion in an afternoon.

And that very same day the bail-out was decided – what a coinkydink! – the man called, ‘The Sheriff of Wall Street’ was cuffed. Spitzer was silenced.

Do I believe the banks called Justice and said, “Take him down today!” Naw, that’s not how the system works. But the big players knew that unless Spitzer was taken out, he would create enough ruckus to spoil the party. Headlines in the financial press – one was “Wall Street Declares War on Spitzer” - made clear to Bush’s enforcers at Justice who their number one target should be. And it wasn’t Bin Laden.

It was the night of February 13 when Spitzer made the bone-headed choice to order take-out in his Washington Hotel room. He had just finished signing these words for the Washington Post about predatory loans:

“Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which he federal government was turning a blind eye.”

Bush, said Spitzer right in the headline, was the “Predator Lenders’ Partner in Crime.” The President, said Spitzer, was a fugitive from justice. And Spitzer was in Washington to launch a campaign to take on the Bush regime and the biggest financial powers on the planet.

Spitzer wrote, “When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners the Bush administration will not be judged favorably.”

But now, the Administration can rest assured that this love story – of Bush and his bankers - will not be told by history at all – now that the Sheriff of Wall Street has fallen on his own gun.

A note on “Prosecutorial Indiscretion.”

Back in the day when I was an investigator of racketeers for government, the federal prosecutor I was assisting was deciding whether to launch a case based on his negotiations for airtime with 60 Minutes. I’m not allowed to tell you the prosecutor’s name, but I want to mention he was recently seen shouting, “Florida is Rudi country! Florida is Rudi country!”

Not all crimes lead to federal bust or even public exposure. It’s up to something called “prosecutorial discretion.”

Funny thing, this ‘discretion.’ For example, Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, paid Washington DC prostitutes to put him diapers (ewww!), yet the Senator was not exposed by the US prosecutors busting the pimp-ring that pampered him.
Naming and shaming and ruining Spitzer – rarely done in these cases - was made at the ‘discretion’ of Bush’s Justice Department.

Or maybe we should say, 'indiscretion.'

Bewert said...

Re: Bruce, Here's one for you,

Yeah, I was just reading that latest story from Palast earlier today. Interesting take on things.

LavaBear said...

Old Time renter here. Bought in 97 and sold late 06. It was time for a larger place and I figured shit was going to hit the fan in a year or so. Didn't figure it would be till 2009 and now I'm not sure if it will be 2010 either for the best time to buy. You've never made any money until it is sold and the cash is in the bank. Too many friends "made" money by pulling cash out.

As an example of the kind of guy I am I bought a house in Phoenix for my mom to live in in 2002. Come 2006 after it had doubled in price I sold it and evicted her. Made my brother move her out. She is renting in a larger, newer, nicer, better neighborhood for $1000 a month now. Good thing I've got kids or we wouldn't be invited for x-mas in the sunshine again.

tim said...

By all means, Bruce, work as you like. Work the way you are effective. But speak with one voice. Do not distract and create enemies.

Pick one thing to pursue as Bruce.

Otherwise, there is "anonymous." Or create another persona. This is the Internet. If you have some politics tickling your throat, tell us as Cindy Lou Olberman.

Quimby said...

Hmmm, Molly "Jugs" Hendrickson says the 6pm KTVZ news will feature a story about how moving companies are seeing more people moving OUT of Bend vs. moving IN...contrary to popular belief.

tim said...

Interesting! In fact, you had me at "jugs."

Quimby said...

Starting to see some nice deals on furniture on craigslist...mostly "moving sales". Some HELOC/Cash Out fun toys too like $30K boats etc.

Quimby said...

I saw her in person one day....and I about fell off my chair! The TV actually doesn't do her justice.

tim said...

Well, my TV has a "zoom" feature.

Anonymous said...

Your mother sucks cocks in hell.

tim said...

Wow. I like the new Bruce. :-)

Anonymous said...

Then, on Wednesday of this week, the unthinkable happened. Carlyle Capital went bankrupt. Who? That’s Carlyle as in Carlyle Group. James Baker, Senior Counsel. Notable partners, former and past: George Bush, the Bin Laden family and more dictators, potentates, pirates and presidents than you can count.

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You got to admit, its FUCKING ALL TRUE, just like our Bend. The best part is you'll never see the above in the WSJ. Just like OUR BEND you'll never here about how many billions our elected officials have stole to enrich their masters. Just like the national level when Bin-Laden Construction (BUSH) is in trouble, time to fleece the US taxpayer.

Just like the past year, Knife-River (Hap Taylor) was in Trouble, and so was Hollern, solution? Create a little corporate welfare to the tune of $20M, and then call it MISSING IN ACTION. Our BEND, is just like Carlyle.

foz said...

**I saw her in person one day....and I about fell off my chair!**

I still remember her first day on air. It was the worst. Should have made youtube. As a frequent patron of the martini bars I've had the privilege of seeing all those girls at their finest. Can't really say any of them are the sharpest tools in shed.

Bewert said...

Re: Molly

I am looking forward to meeting her. I finally put 2 + 2 together and realized that she's the girlfriend of one of my wife's employees. I just double-checked with her, and her comment is "While, Norway went out with her one time!" Norway, the shop owner, has had a string of giant breasted girlfriends since he worked for Trudy back in SLC.

Molly. Mmmm... You got my curiosity up now.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

You can call me a fool for moving to Bend, I guess.

I thought you were a Redmonite...

Anonymous said...

Sooo... I called this one. Really good garage sales and toy sales coming soon to a neighborhood near you. :)

Bewert said...

Re: Really good garage sales

I'm seeing them, too. I need a good 20 foot ladder if anyone sees one.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

BTW, I was seriously thinking of buying a house in Bend last year, until I read this blog. One RE agent told me "NWX would be perfect for you -- a nice mix of people and lots of great shops." I almost got suckered in. You've probably saved more than one person from unknowingly joining the Suckers list. Thanks!

Dang... that's a surprise.

Sometimes I start to think that this blog is the same people day after day... people who are completely aware of the cluster-fuck that is Bend RE. Guess not.

Anonymous said...

You guys are going to LOVE this.

I just got a postcard - addressed to "current resident" - a mass-mailing from Becky Breeze and The Plaza.

Typical little sales pitch. Prices starting at $449,900. Pretty little postcard views. If there's any interest, I'll scan and post it.

What's unbelievable about it is the randomness. Are they mailing these to every homeowner in Portland?

I'm thinking about calling the number on the card and offering them $200,000 for one of the three-bedrooms. See what they say.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Hmmm, Molly "Jugs" Hendrickson says the 6pm KTVZ news will feature a story about how moving companies are seeing more people moving OUT of Bend vs. moving IN...contrary to popular belief.

My wife told me that. I about died!

People moving OUT of Bend?

THAT is a story. THAT is something The Powers That Be here will drop a load over.

Housing might go to hell, business goes to hell, and all else... BUT GROWTH WILL OUT & SAVE OUR COLLECTIVE ASSES.

That has been the party line from Day 1.

When population growth stops or actually declines... Holy Shit. Vicious Cycle Implosion.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The need to do something with Molly's makeup.

She's been looking gaunt recently... like Skeletor.

She looks best in that promo piece with the curly hair. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.... hot Molly.

Anonymous said...

New Willamette Week in PDX ( The equivalent of their Source ), has a front page about the collapse of eating out at restaurants.

Fine dining is dead, in just two months people have cut back. Lots of eatery's will fold very quick.

Now will we see a front page like that in Bend?

Remember when PDX gets a cold, Bend get pneumonia.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Coming to a town near you!

Westside Elementary in Madras to shut down

Other cuts also planned to balance budget

By Tony Fuller, KTVZ.COM

It was a tough decision, but something Jefferson County school officials say was inevitable: Westside Elementary in Madras will close its doors for good at the end of the school year.

The school board on Wednesdsay night approved a reconfiguration plan for the elementary schools, which will leave no need for Westside.

Along with other Central Oregon school districts, Jefferson County is facing a major budget deficit. According to school officials and administrators, closing Westside Elementary saves money, but it's a tough call to have to make.

How do you cut $3.1 million from a school district budget? It's a task that keeps Jefferson County School District Interim Superintendent Kay Baker a busy woman.

"This school district is looking at a budget deficit in the area of $3 million," Baker said Thursday. "That's about 10 percent of our general fund budget. We have to make some reductions in what we are doing."

Westside Elementary is the oldest building in the district. Seventy-two years ago, it was the high school in Madras.

Closing Westside is just one of the things that will save the district money.

Elementary schools will reconfigure: Madras Elementary will serve kindergarten through second grade, and Buff Elementary will serve third grade through fifth.

By readjusting the elementary education system, the district is able to serve the students and close the doors at Westside.

"The reconfiguration will balance the class sizes across the district," Baker said. "It certainly means the elimination of some positions, but it will have the least effect on the students' overall educational program."

It's a result of stagnant enrollment in the district. School officials anticipated the enrollment going up, due to projects such as the new state prison. And when it didn't, they were in the hole to a major degree.

"The district anticipated a growth spurt that hasn't reached us yet," Baker said. "We are still hopeful that in the next three to five years, that spurt is going to start growing. But yet at this point, we had a lot of empty spaces in our elementary schools here in Madras."

By closing Westside, the district will save over $900,000, but there is still more cuts that have to be made.

Recently, the school district released a packet to all district employees explaining the budget deficit. To read more about the issues at hand, you can find the full report on the district's website at http://jcsd.k12.or.us


THIS will be the ultimate reason home prices implode here... people leaving cuz schools suck ass. And all other public services have gone away... but schools are a biggie.

Anonymous said...

Molly's Jugs, Bend-Bubble, I think I get it.

Homers Iconic Penile implant.

Duncan McGeary said...

"People moving OUT of Bend?

THAT is a story. THAT is something The Powers That Be here will drop a load over."

I seem to remember you and I and Bilbo talking about this six or eight months ago.

At least, I remember bringing it up. I think Bilbo had a neutron bomb scenario in mind, while I thought there was a strong possibility that we'd have an actual outflow, which seemed radical enough.

But, hey, there aren't as many jobs, people can't afford to live here, baby boomers want equity out of these high prices before it's too late (it's too late...), and so on.

Why not?

Anonymous said...

THIS will be the ultimate reason home prices implode here... people leaving cuz schools suck ass.

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Yeh, tell that to the new Elementary going up on skyline west of Summit High, also Summit High just had a second $5M dumped into the football field in a few years.

Across the street from the new elementary is a MTN, and that MTN is the fill from Bledsoe's mansion so he could have an acre underground sports arena under his house.

Lot's of shit going up in Bend, and MOST will never ever be used, but hey were keeping the contractors busy.

Madras, tried to be Bend and fell on its ASS, Bend tried to be Aspen, and has a ton of debt. Sounds like Madras will survive the depression just fine, they're cutting back, and trimming expense before the shit hits the fan.

Bend on the other hand has actually increased spending, and is partying on and deferring SDC's like never before.

Duncan McGeary said...

Anyone know what happened to the Alpine Glass that was on Franklin and 2nd?

Weird how Franklin and Greenwood seem to be the first district to have a bunch of vacancies.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Anyone got any recent stats for March???

Doug Farmer has sorta hit the skids & not even posted anything for Feb.

Realtors are starting to lose interest in posting dismal stats... understandably so.

Anonymous said...

There's no doubt someone will leave, it will be those still rich enough to be able to PAY to exit.

I like I told tim today, he's NOT a sucker because he can LEAVE.

Hell yes, the vast majority in the last 5-10 years came to Bend to ride the equity cash-cow, and very soon, all but the fucking STUCK, and I'm talking M-STUCK'r stuck, will have gone.

We're only going to be stuck with those who couldn't afford to bail, or were too stupid to bail.

In order to build another 3,000 homes out west of skyline towards Sisters, HOLLERN had to donate the land for the new elementary that just started on Skyline west of Summit-High. This was a contingency for the new Skyline Subdivision that will fill in from Tumalo to Shevlin Park.

Like I have been writing about NWXC is busy building, lots of new homes up in just the last few weeks.

HOLLERN has put all his MONEY & BETS everything forward. So people leave, but prices for new homes will be under $100k. Lots of traffic out on the westside, that's for DAMN sure, right next to the most high-end BLEDSOE mansion, here's a guy spending $30M and he's next to a poverty sub-division, hows that for planning?

Something has to give, its going to get ugly.

Neutron bomb scenario, yes downtown. A friend came over tonight with the new PDX willamette-week for my wife, front page, PDX restaurant collapse.

Bend STD siberian subdivision. As we have long know city-hall and HOLLERN just assumed LIKE HOMER that homes were to expensive, so now were' going to see 1,000's of crap-shacks under $100k,

Hell yes BEND is ASPEN.

Seen this before in the early 1980's out in PALMDALE/LANDCASTER-CA for LA commuters, they built +10,000 homes, and they all had to be demolished,

What the fuck does HOLLERN care, or the city? As long as Knife-River tandem dumps trucks are moving, then the campaign contributions are moving, and that makes Bend HUM.

We're just going to have to watch and see, sure 1,000's of people can invest in RENTAL's that can in theory pencil.

I THINK DUDEs this is the BIG drive for BAT, they know that these 1,000's and 1,000's of poor living in these siberian STD's can't afford gas, so they need to have the BAT in place.

The powers that be have plans for BEND, and you fuckers HAVE NO fucking idea, like our bruce pussy sits in the meeting and then talks about Juniper-Ridge, that ain't the elephant, the elephant is there will still be another 5,000 homes added to inventory this year, they're ain't even new PERMITS, these are homes that have already been permitted and approved, ... got to keep building.

I guess so long as DUMB FUCKING investors, invest in HOLLERN Brooks Financial Services, and think they're going to make money, he'll spend that money on more crap-shacks, why should he care the land cost nothing.

The city pays for SDC, and knife-river gets paid city money to build roads, it has all been working forever, nothing new under the sun.

Where the fuck is it all going??

Duncan, you brought this UP. Neutron bomb??

The BIG fucking question, and I have demanded this for years, we needed a fucking moratorium on crap-shacks to solve the inventory problem, now everyone is going to FUCK one another.

This is why I don't care about the SEBASTIAN story or pic's, we're going to see this 100X, nobody cares, just keep building SHIT,

ITS completely fucking insane.

Bewert said...

Re: ITS completely fucking insane.

Not when that is all you know.

Jack the SDC's up to where they need to be, and a lot of it will dry up. Then we can start working through the 10,000 unit overhand of stuff already built or platted.

The SDC's were on the CC's plate not too long ago, but seem to have disappeared as of late.

Bewert said...

Timmy, re: in JR the screw-ups are already done.

You guys don't understand. The CC has a hard-on for JR. Abernethy made that clear to me one time. They have a "vision" and are determined to follow through with it. Even the water feature.

Disney-type Celebration with industry in the High Desert. Simply fucking stupid. Water? Green lawns? Deciduous trees? Here?

Telfer is the only one that seems to have some common sense.

Anonymous said...

Jack the SDC's up to where they need to be, and a lot of it will dry up

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That could happen, but thats several years from now, Like I said most of this stuff going up RIGHT NOW is/was all permitted last year.

There's going to be MORE inventory than people in Bend, but who the fuck cares.

The SDC's will only go up if the ballot title is on the ballot and it wins, and it only effect the future,

The rape and pillage and destruction of Bend will continue for years,

Poverty without a view, and total lack of chipmunk habitat, rampant flooding from the lack of topsoil, everything covered with asphalt or concrete.

Got to keep building 24/7.

Who gives a fuck if it don't sell, everybody is staying busy and making money.

Ok, brucey-pussy, now get involved and help get the fucking SDC ballot approved, and lets shut the bullshit down.

Anonymous said...

You guys don't understand. The CC has a hard-on for JR.

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You don't fucking understand BRUCE PUSSY, at $800k/acre to blast rock at JR, nobody is ever going to build anything.

YOU just fucking TALK, and YOU can TALK about YOUR MENTOR and IDOL BRUCE-PUSSY-ABERNETHY about how he has a fucking hard-on for JR,

Fact is BULLSHIT walks and money talks, and there is NO FUCKING money for JR brucey.

Unless some federal money, and I'm talking BILLIONS falls out of the fucking sky, Les-Schwab is it, for a long-long time, now let it go.

The POLS talk about JR, cuz its a safe talk, it ain't going no where, besides the money is always made on the plans, and the consulting for these birds.

Knife-River would be more than glad to blast all 1500 acres they would make about $2 billion for the task. Where the FUCK is the money going to come from?

Just hold on to your cunt, the FED's have approved a Freeway from Reno to Madra for 2025, that's when you'll see some shit, if these cunts are SMART they'll run the FWY down the middle of JR, and that will force people to invest in JR for access to the onramps.

Anonymous said...

You guys don't understand. The CC has a hard-on for JR.

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So what Bruce-Pussy has hard-on for JR too, so fucking what?

I used to have a hard-on for writing about JR corruption, but its over, what's been done is done, and the CROOKS have robbed all they can rob from this pig.

All these CC cunts that you fucking worship, will be gone in a year, so fucking what what.

I have written dozens if not 100's of articles about JR during the past few years, and its over, until some real fucking dumb shit comes into town and wants to spend billions of dollars blasting desert outcroppings its over.

This town isn't likely to dump another $20M any time soon at JR, I think having seen what this has done to Les Schwabs REP, nobody is going to go near the fucking JR fiasco kluster-fuck.

Quimby said...

Found myself on the East side (27th, Butler Mkt to Reed Mkt) and you couldn't swing a dead cat w/o hitting a freakin' construction crew working on new lots, roads or new homes. It is truly mind-boggling.

tim said...

>>You guys don't understand. The CC has a hard-on for JR. Abernethy made that clear to me one time. They have a "vision" and are determined to follow through with it. Even the water feature.

Oh, I believe they do, but reality is outrunning them, no? Maybe they can still do a little bit of damage, but it'll be like running in molasses for them.

As for the inflow vs. outflow argument, I believe that bendbb and I disagreed about a year ago on that. I said the inflows were BECAUSE of the price appreciation and had to slow down as the gravy train ended, and he thought there was no evidence yet that that was happening. I had a couple anecdotes, but he was right, there was no evidence. Eventually, there was. First, the UHaul rates in-to-out changed dramatically, then the state numbers (done at Portland State, I believe) showed a dramatic slowdown in immigration. I believe that number is June to June or July to July, and is reported in the fall. This fall we may very well hear that we've lost people.

And buster is right. Kids don't think Bend is cool anymore. That idea is long gone. Even when I moved here, my uncle said, "Oh yeah, that used to be the hot place for the kids to go." The people coming now are the tail end of the hip parade. And I mean tail.

Bewert said...

Re: JR

I bow down before all of you so much more experienced in such matters than me. Just tell me how to stop them from spending more millions on a boondoggle. Of course, the millions ain't there no more, so it's a moot point for now.

I hope.

In my local photo trips, I have yet to see a single U-Haul unloading. They are always loading up, to leave.

tim said...

>>Of course, the millions ain't there no more, so it's a moot point for now.

>>I hope.

Yeah, that's really what we have to hope. Basically, I think the idea is they'll be up to their armpits in trouble soon enough (now), and JR will be the last thing on their minds before long.

I hope.

Bewert said...

One last ironic article before I hit the hay:

Bernanke's Own Home on Capitol Hill Shows Housing Boom and Bust

March 20 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. housing recession has arrived literally on the doorstep of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke.

Bernanke lives in Washington's Capitol Hill area in a four- bedroom, 2,600-square-foot house he bought new in May 2004 for $839,000. Almost four years later, it may not be worth any more, according to real estate records and local agents.

Bernanke's timing wasn't the best -- values in the area peaked a year later -- and he is hardly alone among Americans living in an investment that's turned cold. His situation shows that the slump that began with distress in the subprime market is now engulfing wealthier neighborhoods, including some in the nation's capital.

``Even though he's the Fed chairman, he's going to get hit -- but I think lot of people will in Washington,'' said William Wheaton, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The value of Bernanke's home ``probably went up to $1.1 million and it's probably back down to $840,000,'' because prices in Washington just a couple years ago ``got out of control,'' Wheaton said.

Bernanke, 54, started working in Washington in 2002, when he joined the Fed's board of governors under then-Chairman Alan Greenspan. His home purchase two years later may have occurred just before prices peaked on the Hill.

In an area of mostly brick row houses, some dating from the 19th century, Bernanke bought a new townhouse within Capitol Hill's historic district.

As Bernanke surveys the breadth of the housing slump, he won't have to venture far from home.

Sales Prices Fall

Real estate records show Bernanke's next-door neighbor's house sold in July 2007 for $880,000, 4.9 percent more than Bernanke's purchase three years earlier. A home four doors down and comparable in size and condition to Bernanke's has been on the market for five weeks at $899,000, after a failed attempt to sell for $988,000 in 2006.

That still leaves the homes of Bernanke and his neighbors worth about four times more than the median home price in the District of Columbia, as measured by S&P/Case-Shiller.

The District had been among the hottest real estate markets in the country, with its steady turnover of residents, proximity to government employers and fewer newly constructed homes than in the suburbs of Virginia and Maryland.

Home values in the U.S. capital were up 96 percent in the five-year period to the third quarter of 2007, the second- fastest pace in the country after Hawaii's 100 percent appreciation, according to figures from the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight.

`The Hill Stumbled'

Now, the nation's capital is no longer insulated from the downturn. The median home price on Capitol Hill last year fell to $545,000, from $550,000 a year earlier.

``Nearly all the Hill stumbled last fall,'' said Joel Nelson, an agent on Capitol Hill with Keller Williams Capital Property. ``There were people who feared in 2005 that things on the Hill would just collapse like they did elsewhere in the country, but I think it's better described as reaching a plateau.''

Still, values in exclusive Washington neighborhoods such as Georgetown and Cleveland Park have held up better than in other parts of the District or elsewhere in the country.

The average sales price in the Washington area dropped to $217,780 in December, a decline of 13 percent from a record of $251,070 in May 2006, S&P/Case-Shiller data show. Washington's home prices had gained an average of 15.9 percent a year in the 10-year period ending in 2005, according to Case-Shiller figures.

No More `Froth'

Nationally, prices fell in every month in the second half of 2007, according to the S&P Case-Shiller index. The average price of a house in the U.S. was $170,640 in December, down 10 percent from a record high of $189,940 in June 2006.

``The froth's come off from the standpoint that we've got a lot fewer buyers than we did last year,'' said Don Denton, branch vice president of Coldwell Banker on Capitol Hill. ``Prices have leveled off and we may have lost 3, 4 or 5 percent -- not bad considering the incredible run-up that we have had over the past decade.''

The health of real estate on Bernanke's block will get tested as the peak sales season gets under way next month. About 90 homes were for sale on the Hill at the start of this year, 50 percent more than the beginning of 2007, according to Coldwell Banker's figures.

It's a supply-demand equation that Bernanke himself is all too familiar with. ``The current crisis has many roots,'' Bernanke said in a March 14 speech in Washington. ``The drop in home prices in many once-hot markets is among the most significant.''


Helicopter Ben, the financial magnate.

Anonymous said...

I think the idea is they'll be up to their armpits in trouble soon enough (now), and JR will be the last thing on their minds before long.

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Yes, the contagious hard-on that ALL had for JR, is-was a manifestation of the Bend is Aspen hysteria.

Having passed, and now realized that Bend is something between LA-Pines & Redmond, well its not going to be pretty.

See the new school report on the place place for kids? Oregon isn't even on the list!

Bewert said...

I think we flew even higher than Sacramento. Is this Bend in 12 months?

California Leads U.S. in Defaults, Home-Price Decline (Update1)

March 20 (Bloomberg) -- Sacramento may eliminate up to 600 jobs in the city's first staff reductions in half a century, and the police and fire departments in the California capital may have their budgets cut by 20 percent. The culprit is the collapse of the U.S. housing market.

California, the birthplace of the subprime mortgage industry, is paying the highest price of any state as the housing meltdown persists. Its gross domestic product will drop 1.5 percent in the first half of 2008, the most in the U.S., analysts at Lexington, Massachusetts-based Global Insight Inc. estimate.

The state had the most foreclosure filings in the U.S. last year and the biggest fourth-quarter decline in prices, according to RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based seller of data on defaults, and the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight in Washington.

``The depth and magnitude of what's happening in the real estate market is really, really grim,'' said Russell Fehr, Sacramento's finance director, in an interview.

California, the most populous U.S. state and accounting for almost one-seventh of gross domestic product, will lose $25 billion in personal income by the end of 2008 and property values will fall by $630.7 billion, according to forecasts from economist Jerry Nickelsburg at the University of California, Los Angeles, and the U.S. Conference of Mayors.

Economic `Drag'

``The housing slump is the real drag on the economy,'' Nickelsburg said.

Almost half of the 25 biggest U.S. subprime lenders were based in the state, according to industry newsletter Inside Mortgage Finance, and almost a quarter of the country's outstanding subprime loans were issued there, more than in any state, data from San Francisco-based research firm LoanPerformance show. Such loans are made to borrowers with limited or tainted credit histories.

Prices that more than doubled in California from 2000 to 2005 fueled demand for nontraditional mortgages that allowed people to purchase homes, said Peter Navarro, a professor at the University of California, Irvine. Half of the 10 most expensive metropolitan areas for home prices are in California, according to data compiled by Chicago-based National Association of Realtors.

``The high home prices here made it very difficult to get into houses unless you started doing really funky things,'' Navarro said.

Foreclosure Filings

The number of houses and condominiums sold in California plummeted 30 percent in January from a year earlier to 313,580, and the median price for an existing home dropped 22 percent to $430,370, according to the California Association of Realtors. The time it would take to deplete the supply of homes on the market at the current sales rate more than doubled to almost 17 months in January from a year earlier.

California had 481,392 foreclosure filings on properties last year, the most of any state, said Daren Blomquist, a spokesman for RealtyTrac. Stockton's metropolitan area had the second-highest U.S. foreclosure rate and Riverside-San Bernardino, Sacramento and Bakersfield ranked fourth, fifth and seventh, respectively.

In Sacramento, half of the city's current home sales involve bank-owned property, helping explain why the increase in property tax revenue will slow to 2 percent in fiscal 2008-2009 and may fall in 2010 and 2011, said Fehr, the finance director.

Bedroom Community

The resulting reduction in department budgets by 20 percent will cut library-branch hours to 35 a week from 44 and will decrease maintenance in Sacramento's public parks. To cut as many as 600 jobs, the city will first offer buyouts.

``We've got 200 to 300 employees who are nervous, and with good reason,'' said Fehr, who met with bondholders and investment banks last week in San Francisco to assure them that the city will honor its commitments. ``This downturn is so sudden and so severe, we've got to take extraordinary measures.''

Vallejo, a bedroom community of 120,000 near San Francisco, was forced to weigh whether to file for bankruptcy in February after declining housing-related tax revenue left it close to insolvency and unable to pay rising labor costs.

Tax Hit

The area has been one of the hardest hit by the housing- market slump in Northern California. Home prices in Solano County dropped 21 percent in February from a year earlier, according to La Jolla, California-based DataQuick, which tracks the property market. Almost half of the estimated 334,500 home sales in 2008 will be trustee sales, according to the Norris Group, a Riverside-based firm that buys and sells foreclosed properties.

Declining prices are crimping property tax revenue throughout the state. Growth in such revenue probably will drop to 6 percent next year and then to 3 percent in 2009-10, according to state forecasts. Each 1 percentage point decline means more than $450 million of lost tax revenue, the state Legislative Analyst's Office said.

Under Proposition 13, a ballot measure approved by California voters in 1978, real estate is reassessed to market value only when it changes owners. Otherwise, the assessed value rises by no more than 2 percent a year.

The real-estate boom led to a 60 percent increase in local property tax revenue from 2002 to 2007, or about a 40 percent advance when adjusted for inflation, the Legislative Analyst's Office said in its November fiscal outlook.

More Reassessments

With no end in sight to the slump, homeowners are racing to get their property revalued to reflect current prices and lower their tax bills. In San Diego County, 11,456 applications seeking reassessments were received last year, more than triple the 2006 number and the most in 10 years.

Los Angeles County Assessor Rick Auerbach announced today his office is reviewing about 310,000 houses and condominiums purchased since July 1, 2004, for reassessment. Already, 41,000 properties have had their values cut by an average of $66,000 each, Auerbach said.

``Not only are you going to have a loss in turnovers, but also probably a growing number of reassessments,'' said Stephen Levy, director of the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy, an economic research group in Palo Alto.

Losing the House

Harry Subers, a 59-year-old unemployed engineer, said he and his wife ``paid way too much'' for their house in Ben Lomond. They did it because they love living among the redwood trees of the Santa Cruz mountains, he said.

After their adjustable-mortgage rate rose last year, their payments climbed 20 percent to $1,900 a month, or more than two- thirds their monthly income of $3,000. The couple put the home up for sale because they could no longer afford it, Subers said.

Selling turned out to be tougher than they thought since three other nearby homes have languished on the market and one hasn't sold for three years, he said. They paid $412,000 in 2004.

``Everything would have been fine if the bubble didn't pop,'' Subers said. ``We're resigned to the fact that we're going to lose the house.''

The real estate slump has taken its toll, with more than 31,000 jobs eliminated last year in the subprime mortgage industry by California-based companies, including 12,000 positions at Countrywide Financial Corp. in Los Angeles, 3,200 at New Century Financial Corp. in Irvine, and 2,600 at ACC Capital Holdings in Orange, according to Chicago-based outplacement firm Challenger Gray & Christmas.

Lost Jobs

The subprime collapse has spilled over to financial services, where employment fell 6.7 percent in January to 881,800 workers from its December 2005 peak of 945,200.

Employment declined 6.9 percent in the construction industry to 814,100 workers in January from a year earlier, resulting in a loss of $3 billion to the California economy, according to data from the state's Employment Development Department.

``That's literally money not available for spending,'' said Jack Kyser, chief economist at the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp., an organization that works to attract businesses and jobs to the Los Angeles region.

As demand for new home furnishings has dried up, bankrupt retailers Levitz Furniture Inc., Wickes Furniture Co. and Bombay Co. are closing dozens of stores in the state, Kyser said.

Spending Cut

The typical homebuyer spends about $20,000 for furnishings in the first two years of ownership, said Alan Nevin, chief economist of the Sacramento-based California Building Industry Association.

Sales in California for household furnishings and appliances didn't increase in 2006, the last year for which statistics are available, ``and we know the pain intensified in 2007,'' Kyser said. Sales for lumber and building materials declined 3.3 percent in 2006, he said.

Homebuilders have been hit hard as the inventory of unsold existing homes rises and the availability of mortgages declines. Shares of Irvine-based Standard Pacific Corp. plunged 89 percent in the past three years, driving its market value down to $303.5 million. Los Angeles-based KB Home dropped 60 percent in the same period.

Mick Pattinson, president of Carlsbad-based builder Barratt American Inc., which constructs homes and condominiums in Southern California, said the company cut almost half of its 140-person staff.

``This is easily the worst housing recession I've experienced, and I've been through four of them,'' Pattinson said.

The number of homes Barratt American built last year fell by more than 50 percent to 116, he said. This year, the company will build even fewer.

``The overall impact is very bad,'' Pattinson said.


Or are we ahead, since we have already had city staff reductions?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

High Desert population: Coming or going?

Posted: March 20, 2008 05:52 PM

Moving cos. see more departures than arrivals this year

By Deanne Goodman, KTVZ.COM

Census numbers from July 2007, released Thursday, estimate Deschutes County's population at just over 154,000, having grown by almost 34 percent since 2000.

But these days, moving companies are seeing more people leave the area than come.

"We did probably about 12 moves out last month, going to different states and maybe saw five or six come in at the most," said Jason Taroli, a sales manager at Prestige Storage and Moving.

U-Haul also reports more trucks leaving than coming into the area. In 2007, they helped 4.1 percent more families move to Bend than leave. But since January of this year, U-Haul has helped 19.8 percent more families move out of Bend.

Employees at Prestige Moving and Storage blame the cooling real estate market and economy.

"Even last summer was not as busy as we were used to being," Taroli said. "We were still fairly busy but compared to past summers, when we were crazy busy, last summer we were comfortable busy."

But one company says it stays busy whether people move into the area or leave.

"It's expensive to move, and a lot of time people have it in their mind, they'll store their stuff until they can come back and get it. Either way, it works out for us," said Robert Hurzeler, a manager at Secure Storage.

Hurzeler says regardless of the economy, his units stay 100 percent full. Thursday morning, two became vacant and then he got a call a family in Arizona. They reserved the two units for their move to Deschutes County.

"This is a beautiful place, and I think it's going to continue to grow because a lot of people want to live here," Hurzeler added.

If the population keeps growing at the rate it has the past seven years, Deschutes County will pass the 200,000 mark in 2013.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Correction
Published: March 21. 2008 4:00AM PST

In a story headlined “Wells Fargo gives Deschutes housing market soft ranking,” which appeared Wednesday, March 19, on Page B1, information about the sale of Wells Fargo & Co. loans to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mae was incorrect. The bank sells loans on the secondary market but keeps the servicing rights.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

If the population keeps growing at the rate it has the past seven years, Deschutes County will pass the 200,000 mark in 2013.

Of course this is a pipe dream, and will never happen again.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

After their adjustable-mortgage rate rose last year, their payments climbed 20 percent to $1,900 a month, or more than two- thirds their monthly income of $3,000. The couple put the home up for sale because they could no longer afford it, Subers said.

Selling turned out to be tougher than they thought since three other nearby homes have languished on the market and one hasn't sold for three years, he said. They paid $412,000 in 2004.


My God... these people are practically poverty-stricken, and they live in a $412K house?

Man, is this going to be longer & far worse than anyone thought...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

``Even though he's the Fed chairman, he's going to get hit -- but I think lot of people will in Washington,'' said William Wheaton...

Well, I'll be fucked! Wil Wheaton went from being that stupid ass Wesley on Star Trek, TNG, to being an economist on The Hill!

I guess you never know...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

California Leads U.S. in Defaults, Home-Price Decline

Let's face it, we live in "Bend, CA", and this piece is as much about us as it is about Cali-bangers.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The resulting reduction in department budgets by 20 percent will cut library-branch hours to 35 a week from 44 and will decrease maintenance in Sacramento's public parks. To cut as many as 600 jobs, the city will first offer buyouts.

``We've got 200 to 300 employees who are nervous, and with good reason,'' said Fehr, who met with bondholders and investment banks last week in San Francisco to assure them that the city will honor its commitments. ``This downturn is so sudden and so severe, we've got to take extraordinary measures.''

...Vallejo, a bedroom community of 120,000 near San Francisco, was forced to weigh whether to file for bankruptcy in February after declining housing-related tax revenue left it close to insolvency and unable to pay rising labor costs.

...Almost half of the estimated 334,500 home sales in 2008 will be trustee sales, according to the Norris Group, a Riverside-based firm that buys and sells foreclosed properties.


Here comes Bend 2012. Radical cuts in services & schools, busted City, wave upon wave of foreclosure, mass exodus.

We are fucking doomed.

Good job Bend RE Industry.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yeah! Doug Farmers Feb data is out...

Jan 08

Listings Sold: 94
Listings Expired: 100
Avg Square Footage: 2009
Avg Days on the Mkt: 179
Avg Sale Price: $ 387,897.
Median Sales Price: $ 307,500.
Active Listings Jan 31: 1881

FEB 08

Listings Sold: 69
Listings Expired: 92
Avg Square Footage: 2070
Avg Days on the Mkt: 208
Avg Sale Price: $ 414,694.
Median Sales Price: $ 315,00.
Active Listings Feb 29: 1827


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Last Year
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Jan 07

Listings Sold: 134
Listings Expired: 81
Avg Square Footage: 1937
Avg Days on the Mkt: 193
Avg Sale Price: $ 442,866.
Active Listings Jan 31: 1610

Feb 07

Listings Sold: 126
Listings Expired: 74
Avg Square Footage: 1897
Avg Days on the Mkt: 166
Avg Sale Price: $ 399,751.
Active Listings Feb 28: 1635

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

A few stats on Dougs data:

First & BY FAR MOST IMPORTANT: 26.48 MONTHS OF INVENTORY.

That is the killer.

AVG & MEDIANS were both higher, but median/sf was actually lower, at $152.17/sf the lowest reading yet for this data set.

Total sold volume of $28.6MM far & away the lowest month yet, down 43.2% from last yr ($50.4MM).

The number of new listings vs solds stayed over 4.5 to 1.

Pretty grim.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Here's my google spreadsheet of Dougs data:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pWE_FqZMoakiiXg-MDQMSeQ

tim said...

Wow. Paul. Look at expired versus sold over the last year.

Bewert said...

From Doug's last blog entry on Feb. 19:

We are not without some good news however, and it’s important to note that as well. We have seen some pretty hefty drops in the interest rate, and we have seen the jumbo mortgage limit raised as well. There are opportunities, and for those who understand how markets work and the general courses they traverse over time, we are now in some pretty lush pastures as far as opportunities go.

There is no where this is truer than in Central Oregon. As the local media has pretty much taken all their real estate stories right off the major wires, the impression in the minds of the public both near and far is that the sky is falling. One encouraging sign is that with a renewed effort on the part of local builders, realtors, and others local media outlets are finally running local stories on the real estate market rather than the more sensational stories out of south Florida and such. Make no mistake about it, the Central Oregon Real Estate market is one of the top markets in the nation. Prices are for the most part holding, and while I don’t see any price increase this year except with exceptional view properties and such I don’t see the market declining either.

It’s amazing what I have heard over the years in terms of the popular wisdom. When prices were going up rapidly, some were saying this will never end while others were saying this is the fault of those dang realtors. Now that we have had a market correction some are saying this will never end while others are saying this situation is the fault of those dang realtors. Let me end this post with this. PRICES ARE LOWER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN A LONG TIME, INTEREST RATES ARE AT HISTORIC LOWS, THIS IS THE BEST BUYERS MARKET IN 20 YEARS OR LONGER. Let me set the popular wisdom straight, THIS BUYERS MARKET IS NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER, AND WHEN IT ENDS IT’S NOT GOING TO BE THE FUALT OF REALTORS. To put it in poker terms, if you are not going to raise on pocket aces, just when are you ever going to raise?


Drink the kool-aid, people.

tim said...

I think what he's trying to say is that the Realtors are at fault here.

Bewert said...

Does anyone know if Doug's combined stats (Bend, LaPine, Sunriver, Three Rivers South) covers all of Deschutes County?

I just added up Feb sales for all areas: 81

NODs for Feb: 109

Bewert said...

Doug's Days On Market number broke 200 for the first time, too, at 208.

But I don't think that counts relisted homes. I know of at least a dozen within a few blocks of me that are well over a year.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Prices are for the most part holding...

PRICES ARE LOWER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN A LONG TIME...


He might want to get his story straight before he starts writing...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

To put it in poker terms, if you are not going to raise on pocket aces, just when are you ever going to raise?

If THIS market is "pocket aces", I can't wait to see what he calls it when medians plummet to the low $200's, and monthly volume is in the 30's & 40's....

Anonymous said...

Google 'foreclosure builder', you get two hits first, a story in the WSJ about a HOLLERN in OHIO that lost it all, front-page today(HOMER MUST READ & PUBLISH), and #2 the "IT AINT ABOUT BEND,OREGON". You don't get #2 by accident, the google algorithm for ranking is by association, and interest.

***

Mortgage Mess Hits Home For Nation's Small Builders
Wall Street Journal - 10 hours ago
Mr. Whitlatch calculated that foreclosures in the Cleveland area were outpacing the number of new homes. In 2007, he expected builders to start fewer than ...
Bend subdivision faces foreclosure
Trading Markets (press release), CA - 8 hours ago
"It's not a Bend issue, not a Renaissance Homes issue; it's a lender that wants out of the builder/developer market, and they don't want to extend their ...

Anonymous said...

There's so much news today on the imminent collapse of ALL BEND's builders and defaults, I don't know where to start. Homer, if you do your post sunday, afternoon, we may get a 1,000 comments on this cycle.

"The Best in the 20 years", but for whom. Today a builder can build for 1/4 the labor cost of 2004, and 1/2 the material cost. Thus building is sky-rocketing, and money was easy.

No buyers, no problem, "ITs the best time to build in 20 years"

Now the facts, the regional banks all over the country are going down, for just this reason, they invested in these builders.

A secret society of golfers and socialites clearly got together with COVA/VCB money last fall, and orchestrated the SPRING RUSH of building homes for around $100k, and they'll all be online. We already know that Bend lags the US by 1-2 years, today more buyers are walking from their deposit than closing new-construction.

So our BOSS-HOGGS, have PUSHED the surge, rather than hunker down last fall, they designed the best in 20, and created another 5,000 homes to come on the market for 2008, and create the 'best in 20 campaign', the banks and/or investors that went along with this boon-doggle will go down as the MOST stupid mother fucker's in the history of gambling.

Most notable to watch is the WSJ quote "I didn't file a material lien against my builder, because he was a good guy, but he never told me he was going down". Watch the liens people, and multiply by 100X whatever you see.

This SURGE isn't going to work, and all it has done is make the people who bought homes in the past five years even lose more money quicker.

We have reached a new stage in BEND where its EVERYBODY fuck everyone. It's everyone for themselves.

2008 going to be interesting, and 2009, going to be a ghost-town.

Anonymous said...

PRICES ARE LOWER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN A LONG TIME, INTEREST RATES ARE AT HISTORIC LOWS, THIS IS THE BEST BUYERS MARKET IN 20 YEARS OR LONGER.

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It's all been engineered to come together, at all the banks in PORTLAND they have 'Peddle, Pole, & Paddle', side-by-side with this marketing concept.

It's clear now that this whole thing was engineered.

1.) Dump a ton of $100k homes on the market in Spring 2008.
2.) Convince tourist for 'peddle,pole,paddle', that this is the best time in 20 years to get a siberian crap shack in BEND.
3.) Contractors will off low rates on contract, real MTG's are going up, these are all second homes, and thus will not qualify for conventional.

We'll it appears this was the plan.

My feeling is they just pushed the inventory to 5yrs, but worse all this new $100k medians homes, just pushed all the 2002-2006 suckers ( buyers ) farther under-water on their zero-down loans.

The 'best in 20' is going to be like the auction that what's his face had in pdx this winter, with probably little to NO bend craps shacks selling.

I think what people don't understand, is that for PDX & SEA yuppies, living in a siberian crapshack next to rail-road tracks out by Juniper-Ridge, isn't what they want of Bend. But who cares, you can have a home in Bend for $100k, best time to buy in 20 years.

It's all going to come together in May 2008, its all been planned.

An orchestrated fraud, sell, and sell hard, the yuppies will only be here for one weekend during peddle, pole, & paddle.

Note, they're NO longer targeting the retiree's, now they're targeting the second home market.

Me think PDX/SEA yuppy's are smart enough NOT to buy a second-home in a falling knife market.

Nobody is going to move to Bend, there are no jobs.

tim said...

Yep.

No jobs + huge RE appreciation = greedy suckers move to Bend.

No jobs + RE price slide = no one moves to Bend.

Anonymous said...

Regarding todays front page story on builders foreclosing, and I'm talking HOLLERN size builders.

THere's a good graph on defaults, and it shows that OREGON is second-tier,

One of the worst places in the country. Right there with michigan, cali, and florida.

How long have I predicted HOLLERN's LLC's would BK??? A long fucking time,

Sebastian is-was an out of town nobody, who showed up in 2002, to take advantage of our FUCKING deferred SDC program.

HOLLERN has been here since the 1960's, and has tentacles everywhere, when he goes down, he's taking the whole town down with him.

HOLD on for the ride.

HOLLERN surviced the 1980's recession because he was cash-poor, but land-rich, today he's cash-poor, but HOUSE rich, which means has cash-flow is burning 100x.

Like the guys in todays WSJ, watch their liens, and factor 100X, because a lot of people don't want to think about HOLLERN defaulting, being that its been good biz for +20 years, but we're in an RE depression, and BEND RE is the most toxic in the NATION.

Like sebastian said, it has nothing to do with Bend or him,

Yeh, right, all this has NOTHING to do with Bend, HOLLERN, HAP-TAYLOR, Chandler/COSTA, ...Garzini, EDCO-etal, .. organized this BENDBUBBLE since 1998. Ten years later its all going to fucking implode, and there's NOT any fucking amount of taxpayer COVA/VCB money that can stop it.

HOLD on folks to your cash, and your home, keep your heads down, be ready to run for high ground, because a tsunami is coming into BEND, never seen before.

tim said...

When I was in college, a fat guy and a skinny guy decided to have a Cool Hand Luke-style hard boiled egg eating contest. The winner would take a quarter of the pot and the rest would go back to the bettors.

I bet on the fat guy.

We all piled into a big dorm study room. I took a seat in the back corner, far from the door, where I had a great view.

The fat guy was like Bend. He tore into the eggs. It was crazy. He was so fast. I thought he could go forever. Sure bet.

Then a funny thing happened. The skinny guy just kept on going. Slowly, methodically.

The fat guy paused. His eyes started to water. His hands began to tremble. His lips turned blue. His eyes started jittering.

People near the door got out in time. Some were knocked to the floor in panic when the first belch was emitted. It was carnival seating at a Who concert--people going through a funnel.

I knew I was stuck. He sprayed aerosol egg all over the place, his head rocking left and right like a balloon released without being tied-off. The smell was unforgettable--the smell of a child's Easter Egg diaper.

So now you know how Bend's real estate bubble will end.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

No jobs + RE price slide = no one moves to Bend.

I think it means one hell of a lot of people LEAVE Bend, too.

LavaBear said...

>>Me think PDX/SEA yuppy's are smart enough NOT to buy a second-home in a falling knife market.

I just spent a week in Seattle. In between meetings I got my inner bruce on and spent some time walking around downtown. I counted at least 12 high rise "luxury" condo's in various stages of construction. Every single local business person I talked to I kept getting the "it's different here". "The suburbs may be having issues but downtown is booming".

The Seattle yuppies have to fill thousands of luxury condo's and buy second homes in Bend as well.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

When I was in college, a fat guy and a skinny guy decided to have a Cool Hand Luke-style hard boiled egg eating contest. The winner would take a quarter of the pot and the rest would go back to the bettors.

I bet on the fat guy.

We all piled into a big dorm study room. I took a seat in the back corner, far from the door, where I had a great view.


Buster's right about you Timmy.

You are a man of class & high ideals.

:-)

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

POTTER - Peter Bailey was not a business man. That's what killed him. Oh, I don't mean any disrespect to him, God rest his soul. He was a man of high ideals, so-called, but ideals without common sense can ruin this town. (picking up papers from table) Now, you take this loan here to Ernie Bishop... You know, that fellow that sits around all day on his "brains" in his taxi. You know... I happen to know the bank turned down this loan, but he comes here and we're building him a house worth five thousand dollars. Why?

George is at the door of the office, holding his coat and papers, ready to leave.

GEORGE - Well, I handled that, Mr. Potter. You have all the papers there. His salary, insurance. I can personally vouch for his character.

POTTER (sarcastically) - A friend of yours?

GEORGE - Yes, sir.

POTTER - You see, if you shoot pool with some employee here, you can come and borrow money. What does that get us? A discontented, lazy rabble instead of a thrifty working class. And all because a few starry-eyed dreamers like Peter Bailey stir them up and fill their heads with a lot of impossible ideas. Now, I say...

George puts down his coat and comes around to the table, incensed by what Potter is saying about his father.

GEORGE - Just a minute –– just a minute. Now, hold on, Mr. Potter. You're right when you say my father was no business man. I know that. Why he ever started this cheap, penny-ante Building and Loan, I'll never know.

But neither you nor anybody else can say anything against his character, because his whole life was... Why, in the twenty-five years since he and Uncle Billy started this thing, he never once thought of himself. Isn't that right, Uncle Billy? He didn't save enough money to send Harry to school, let alone me.

But he did help a few people get out of your slums, Mr. Potter. And what's wrong with that? Why... here, you're all businessmen here. Doesn't it make them better citizens? Doesn't it make them better customers? You... you said... What'd you say just a minute ago?... They had to wait and save their money before they even ought to think of a decent home. Wait! Wait for what? Until their children grow up and leave them? Until they're so old and broken-down that they... Do you know how long it takes a working man to save five thousand dollars?

Just remember this, Mr. Potter, that this rabble you're talking about... they do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community. Well, is it too much to have them work and pay and live and die in a couple of decent rooms and a bath? Anyway, my father didn't think so! People were human beings to him, but to you, a warped, frustrated old man, they're cattle. Well, in my book he died a much richer man than you'll ever be!

LavaBear said...

>>POTTER (sarcastically)

So I think Cramer on cnbc is pretty much a jackass but...him giving JPM CEO James Dimon the Potter award this week for his deal on Bear Sterns was classic.

Anonymous said...

Timmy says a lot of dumb things, but he's funny as hell.

Anonymous said...

The Seattle yuppies have to fill thousands of luxury condo's and buy second homes in Bend as well. - lava

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Thanks lava, and lets add PDX as well, since Feb 07, it is NOW impossible to borrow money for condo's, apt-conversion or new. I'm talking builder side.

Even the new towers by the river and were talking +10M are sitting empty.

PDX yuppy's have to buy 1,000's of condos for cheap, and they have to buy second homes in Bend,...

Trouble is in the recent years in PDX, the trend for the YOUNG health/wealthy docs,lawyers,cpa's, ... the guy/gals that make money these days the trend is to dump your car, ride your bike to work, and buy a house in inner EAST-PDX.

The WHOLE 1970's model of JD-GRAY & M-HOLLERN is collapsing, the future kids with MONEY aren't going to be driving out to BEND every weekend.

I think that's why the REHO condo HO's did it big with CONDO CANYON around the old-mill, think PLAZA.

All targeted to the dead & dying.

Bend isn't cool for kids, it sucks, in the day we could spend our summer on the river, drinking beer all day, and fucking all night. Not anymore.

The kids got ran away from the river during the summer so it looked good in 2004/2005 to sell condos to geezers near the LS-Amphitheater. Speeding 80mph will cost you $80 in BEND, but dog-off-leash in summer in the water will cost your $400.

Bend ran off the kids, the red-necks ( what DUNC calls salt-of-the-earth ), with NO money in BEND, their will be no money for docs, lawyers, cpas, ...

The greedy bastards RUNNING this town since 1998, have turned it into a mausoleum for the near dead.

NOW what?? Retiree's aren't coming here anymore, the greatest dumbest stupidest retiree has already bought, the greatest-fool-retiree program here is OVER.

Now its 'best in 20' target the yuppy's, but THESE dumb mother fuckers spending COVA/VCB are so fucking dumb they don't understand the demographics.

Insult to injury they fucked themselves. They made the NEW bend into what it is, and it ain't cool for nobody.

1.) HIGH-END B-TOP will be surrounded by low-income, the rich will leave.
2.) CONDO-CANYON retirees will mostly be dead in ten years, then what?
3.) The rest of BEND will be infilled with under $100k low-income housing, so goes Bend as Aspen.
4.) Music venues for kids are closing quicker than opening.
5.) Music stores are closing.
6.) There are NO cool coffee shops to hang out, like there were 20 years ago downtown, Starbucks ain't cool.

My point here, is that I hope someone at the CROOK level of COSTA, EDCO gets the message back up the food chain, that YOU have fucked Bend bigtime, but most of ALL you have fucked yourself.

Anonymous said...

Newbies FYI

JD-GRAY & M-HOLLERN created the 'siberian resort' laws called SB100, back in the 1970's that created the dozen's of golf resorts we have today.

Gray was sunriver, Hollern black-butt. Since then dozens of me-too fools and sucks have bought this shit, but with $10/gas, and owning a car NOT cool its over.

Let's remember that it was always weekend at Sunriver & Blackbutte from the start. They came from PDX to sunriver, and from salem to black-butt.

The demographic model has changed. Which is why team hollern marketed BEND to retirees since 1998, trouble is today the retirees have been picked to the bone, their 401k is gone, they have no equity, they ain't even worth feeding, let alone marketing.

The Golf Resort, the BEND crap-shack, its all over.

Build, Build, ... all dressed up, and no more suckers.

Anonymous said...

too bad you guys don't live next to "chesty" (aka molly) -- hear tell she likes a little sun where the sun don't usually shine:

http://celebrityinbend.blogspot.com/2005/09/bends-hottest-tv-news-chick.html

Anonymous said...

March stats as of 3/21/08
All types of Residential Bend only

Sold: 61
Median: $284,000
DOM:179

In 2007 March to date:

Sold: 125
Median: $349,249
DOM: 188

Anonymous said...

Timmy says a lot of dumb things, but he's funny as hell.

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I have heard timmy described by many, but never as funny.

He's our voice of reason. He used to be a Urinal-list. Think BULL, think Fisher, think timmy, think angry.

Bewert said...

Re: Liens

Interesting.

A quick records search shows:

2006 total 456
2007 total 905
2008 to date 398

Jan 07 85
Feb 07 63
Mar 07 48

Jan 08 133
Feb 08 130
Mar 08 to date 135

Anonymous said...

Interesting post (sorry if you already saw this):

http://portlandhousing.blogspot.com/2008/02/another-day-another-foreclosure-auction.html

Anonymous said...

2008
Median: $284,000
DOM:179

In 2007 March to date:
Median: $349,249
DOM: 188

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Marge dear, does this mean I can't tell prospective retirees that BEND RE will return them 25%/apr forever?

One other question on your alias, is that m-stucker for 'stuck in bend', or ms-tucker, for 'mrs tucker'??

Bewert said...

Marge, do you have Deschutes county totals, too?

Anonymous said...

It actualy is an abbreviation for Ms. Sophie Tucker, one of favorite old timers of comedy, that Bette Midler tells jokes about. Maybe I should change it to the Devine Miss M. I'll stick with Marge for now.
I don't feel stuck in Bend, been her 30 years and choose to stay for the time being.

Anonymous said...

Economy Grinding to a Halt: Conference Board

Leading economic indicators turned worse in February as the economy continued to slow.

March 21, 2008

Business management and research firm The Conference Board said Thursday in its latest release of economic indicators that the U.S. economy “may be grinding to a halt” as its closely-watched indicator index fell for the fifth-straight month in February.

The New York-based Conference Board tracks 10 leading economic indicators and produces a monthly index based on their movements. The index fell 0.3 percent in February after falling a downwardly-revised 0.4 percent in January. The company initially reported a drop of 0.1 percent for January.

Five of the 10 indicators turned worse in the month: jobless claims, building permits, delivery times, consumer expectations, and stock prices. Four indicators rose: Real money supply, interest rate spreads, orders for capital goods and orders for consumer goods. The factory workweek measure was unchanged.

"The economy may be grinding to a halt," said Ken Goldstein, labor economist at the Conference Board, in the release. "Growth will be weak this spring. A small economic contraction cannot be ruled out. The economic signals are flashing yellow."

Bolstering the Conference Board’s claims, in a separate report Thursday, the U.S. Labor Department said initial claims for unemployment benefits rose to 378,000 last week. Unemployment claims data is one of the leading indicators used in the Conference Board index. The number was higher than economists had anticipated, with those polled by MarketWatch predicting 359,000 new claims.

John Ryding, U.S. chief economist for Bear Stearns, told MarketWatch that the jobs data coming from the Labor Department are "increasingly throwing off recession signals.” The initial jobless claims last week stood at 356,000.

Anonymous said...

no jobs -- retirees

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FYI --
owing to the fact that many new Bendites are retirees, they won't need jobs -- so no jobs in Bend isn't an issue for this sector.

Anonymous said...

The following is a deep explanation of the process, and how to use the lien data to analyze builders during bend's historical RE corrections.

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2008 to date 398

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Bruce, can you post link to the names, or see if any 'brooks resource' llc's have anything, or see who has had a lien, like Sebastian??

It would be interesting to see liens by the last 3 months by builder.

Like todays WSJ article says, its very unlikely for suppliers to put liens on old-time builders because of not wanting to rock the boat, so even the most minuscule information would be interesting, I don't think we need to focus on what happened in the past, we already know the trends.

FYI, like the sebastian, we know he just got called, it would be interesting to note a pattern in liens on him prior to NOD. That way we can start predicting the next defaults based on current to-date lien pattern.

It would be interesting if on your BEND-WATCH website you could have a list of month to month of these liens sorted, only for suppliers who had filed liens against builders.

I think there are lots of people tracking MLS data, and few tracking NOD's, but not enough tracking Liens. This is usually good indicator of where things are going.

For the record in the day, in the 1980's during our last correction here, what I saw was that generally certain builders would get every deliver lien'd, and the reason is that banks do draws on new construction, and until the liens are cleared they don't pay the next draw. So SMART suppliers will always put down a lien on every delivery for FLAKE builders to ensure payment. The reason I'm telling you all this, is these AUTOMATIC type liens need to be avoided, we're looking for the tiny insignificant liens by suppliers, NOT the majority.

NOT all flaky builders will bust, remember its business collect early, pay late. Just cuz you have a lien doesn't mean you'll BK. What we're looking for is unusual new trends for instance if all of a sudden for a builder there is an uptick for liens where he has NEVER had them before, that's what you want to look for.

Anonymous said...

I don't feel stuck in Bend, been her 30 years and choose to stay for the time being.

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Marge -- obviously Bend is "home" to you. Do you think it's as awful as the others say?
How has the massive growth effected your life?

Anonymous said...

Deschutes Co. stats 3/01/08 to 3/21/08, all residential types.

Sold: 106
Median: $266,000
Active listings: 3759
DOM 179


March 07 to date.

Sold: 212
Median: $330,000
DOM 180

Anonymous said...

FYI --
owing to the fact that many new Bendites are retirees, they won't need jobs -- so no jobs in Bend isn't an issue for this sector.


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REALTOR ALERT, WE HAVE LIVE FISH, CROOK-CROOK, ...

First of all YOUR retiree that came here in the last six years is under-water, his 401k is gone, and he's stuck here.

Not a pretty site.

They ALL sold their CALI homer for $1M, bought a BEND B-TOP or equiv for $500k, have spent their $500k from the cali-sale on wine,food,... in Bend. Now they're into the 401k.

Yes, its an old argument, that BEND doesn't need jobs, cuz we're town of retiree's. There are less than 15,000 good jobs in this town of 60,000.

Money on wine, and restaurants will drop to a trickle. There will be no jobs, who will change the diapers on the retirees when their money is gone?

This is why the NEW 'best in 20' scam is targeting yuppy's, with cheap homes. The RETIREE scam in BEND is over.

I have always felt that a town full of broke elderly is recipe for catastrophe, how in the hell are we going to pay for their medical? They sure in the hell can't.

The retiree while a consumer in theory, is MOST noted for their lack of need to consume, add into that the fuck that they're broke, they're not even in the game.

Health jobs are #1 in Bend, then Government. Government is going down, just like Sacramento. Health may stay up, like the nurse told me the other night, 'infections' in Bend are skyrocketing. Might be good for biz, but I think a lot of people in BEND will no longer be able to pay for health-care.

Remember these 'rich-retirees' are paying $2k/mo for med-insur, and they can't qualify for oregon-health until broke, ...

The current bustle in BEND, is construction with CHEAP money, on the premise that all these crap-shacks will sell. This summer with the foreclosures and all, should be a real bitch-slap to slow it all down.

I have said it before, and I'll say it again, the retirees with MONEY will leave, this place will not BE FUN for them, when it looks like 1983 again, and it will.

The only retirees we're going to be stuck with, are the ones who can't afford to leave, which means medical welfare costs well soar.

This is another HOLLERN BUBBLE SDC issue, all retiree housing should have an SDC for longterm health care, you bring them to bend, and you sell them a crap-shack YOU MR. HOLLERN should pay their medical, and not us after you have fleeced them.


Regarding the statement in effect that retirees don't care about the fact there are NO JOBS, I say not true retirees want to see the kids, and the kids can't live here, so eventually the retirees that can leave, will leave to be with the kids, where the kids can find good jobs.

We have already written forever here why there will NEVER be good paying jobs in Bend. Well maybe after 2025 when they put in the RENO-to-MADRA FWY, but hell that might get postponed to pay our $3 Trillion dollar IRAQ invasion bill.

tim said...

There is a limited number of retires and a large number of competing retirement area.

Bend appeals to a very limited slice of retirees. I've known a lot of oldsters who have come here and moved away after a winter or two. Sometimes it's just one driveway slip that makes the decision.

Retiring folks often go to grandkids. Which means parents need jobs. Or they go to warm havens (North Carolina down to Florida, or Nevada/Arizona/Southern California).

This is a great place for a _certain_ kind of retiree. But I think it was mostly oversold, and a lot of "retirees" were here because the Real Estate was going up.

Retirement destinations are faddish. And very dependent on a good economy, because in a recession people put off retirement, and some go back to work as nest eggs drop.

Bet you anything we have some "retirees" who "don't need jobs" suddenly leave Bend to go back to work.

If Bend's future is retirees, then where the hell have they been for the last two years when all these houses in Bend have been for sale? Where are our missing rich Californians? All those people with the million dollar houses for sale in Bend would LOVE to know.

tim said...

Wow. My post is a lot like Buster's. I feel like a puppet to his puppet-master.

Anonymous said...

Saddam -- obviously Iraq is "home" to you.

Do you think it's as awful as the others say?

How has the US invasion effected your life?


It's not so bad in Iraq, I hear there is a place in the USA called BendOregon, thats far worse than Iraq.

Anonymous said...

Marge -- obviously Bend is "home" to you. Do you think it's as awful as the others say?
How has the massive growth effected your life?


I landed here on 65 acres in Powell Butte and farmed for years. Those were really great times, lean, but great. Scaled down and went to 20 acres on Tumalo with lots of critters. Scaled down again to current 5 dry acres and no critters. The only time I enjoy the streets of Bend is Sunday morning. I despise the drivers here, there are too many rude folks. I don't go to shopping areas except BiMart, GI Joes, Sentry and the toilet paper trip to Costco. I do like the new Ace Hardware though, Kinda like St.Clairs except for the service. I use the same auto repair shop that I did 30 years ago. I don't go to Mt. Gotcha anymore. I look for other places to live, like Weaverville, CA. But I might be too lazy to move again.
Massive growth lined my pockets for many years. That is over. I have never been to the ampitheater. I used to do the Drake park things. I feel the tall buildings have taken over our skies and views. Most of the new folks travel in a different time warp than I.

All in all, the last time I really enjoyed Bend was about 1992.

Anonymous said...

Wow. My post is a lot like Buster's. I feel like a puppet to his puppet-master.

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Tim, its simply because we both have nothing to fear.

We both tell the truth.

We both tell it as we see it.

I think we both have been around long enough to have seen it all before.

I'm glad that you touched on, what I touched on. That is oldsters have one thing to live for, and that is the grand kids. What's the point of being in a place where the kids could never get a job.

This is the answer to our rhetorical inquisitor today that said that retiree's don't need jobs.

A town of dead & dying is NOT a pretty site, yes BEND was over-sold, that is why it was the #1 over-valued by OFHEO for the past four years. They'll game very few to stay. All to ride the wave.

Now there are MORE reason to leave than there are to stay.

If your old, whats the point of staying here 10-20 years to get your money back?

Virtually all the high-tech stock-option retiree's that I know, that came to Bend post 2002, did so NOT to stay here forever, but to make money and play while they could still enjoy biking, hiking, ... with the dream that with all the money they made on their BEND investment they could eventually retire in Santa Barbara.

I think the number of retirees that came here to stay here was quite small. Just like our builders, they all over sold this place so they could go retiree to their land up in Alaska, everybody has a dream.

The truth is VERY few people had the dream of staying dying here, us old-timers, like me, marge, duncan, I'm sure we'll die here.

I can't think of a single newbie retiree that I know, that came and custom built a Mansion here that ever did so to stay, and even those that planned to stay, always planned to sell, and move in down by me near newport-market in a flat lot, where you couldn't slip on ice, and live in a 1,000sqft home, and keep it simple.

They bought the big stuff cuz the $2M was going to $10M, Bend was to be the NEXT Aspen.

The truth hurts, but it sounds like buster, marge, and dunc, already live in the little home. So we'll stay in Bend, and die here.

foz said...

**"People moving OUT of Bend?**

You have to assume that a lot of the people are like me and don't show up in any of the normal statistics.
I left a year ago, put most things in A-1 storage on the westside. At the time the place was full and she told me that a fairly large number of units were billed to out of state addresses. When I finally do move the stuff it will be using a truck or trailer that I rent in the Seattle area. So my move will never be noticed statistically

As to the statement of "Seattle being different" There is a little truth to that. Seattle is still creating good paying jobs. The condo's downtown are desirable because the traffic is such a nightmare. That whole area on the South of Lake Union is booming under the funding from Paul Allen. Bend doesn't have a Paul Allen and it doesn't have any real job creation. Bend attracts a lot of people like me that can work from anywhere but unfortunately can pick up and leave easily too. The quality of life in Bend started to slip away several years ago. So for me, except for family, there really wasn't a compelling reason to stick around.

Bewert said...

Re: Bruce, can you post link to the names

Same old http://recordings.co.deschutes.or.us/search.asp

Taking a quick look through 2008's mostly single builders, with a bunch of Aspen Landings, some Branic (the high-end builder I noted has listed his residence on Craigslist), a $145,213 one on Arrowood, got to be over $200K on Desert Sun, a whole lot of them in Tanager Village (where is that?), Palmer Homes, Fehlman Land & Homes, $73K from Lumberman's on Renaissance, $350K from Building Solutions on Contino Family Trust in Awbrey Point, Hooker Creek put a $6500 one on Community First Bank, $53K by Parr Lumber on Clint Chick, bunch on Taurus Homes, etc.

Of course, I haven't checked the Lien Satisfaction filings, so some of those may be lifted. I would guess Contino, Desert Sun, Renaissance are looking the worst from a quick survey.

And the Community First one is a bit puzzling.

foz said...

The truth is VERY few people had the dream of staying dying here

How true. I came because I wanted to hang out with kids and grandkids. I don't think they even plan on staying there forever. The other big draw for me was exactly as you say. I wanted to play around for a couple years, hike, ski, bike etc, while I could. I decided early on though that I would just rent because I wanted total flexability

Anonymous said...

All in all, the last time I really enjoyed Bend was about 1992.

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For me it was 1986, thats when I97 ( third ) became a parking lot and all those strip malls.

What about you dunc? When did Bend change downhill for you? Or are you going to say it only got better? and do the Ned-Flanders thing?

Me too marge, I have never been to the LS-AMP for a concert, and with the new dog rules, I quit using Drake Park, I haven't bought a lift @ MT-B for over 5 years, yet I xc ski almost everyday during season.

I like to sail in the Canadian Gulf Islands in the summer when its too hot here. I like to do the hot-springs in SE Oregon in the spring.

Bend used to be a real cool place, now its just weird with all the false 'riche' people and their SUV's. Fake hair, fake boobs, fake asses, Bend has become the worst of Cali. So fucking Sad. We'll it was all HELOC, these people don't work, nor ever worked, so they'll leave. The future of Bend I see is endless low-income housing.

Even the pubs in Bend are no longer fun, they haven't been fun for years, in the summer I sail between floating bars ( Nanaimo and north have brewpubs you can access by your dingy ) in Canada, and up there people are fun. Deschutes pub was cool in the 80's, today it has the feel and attitude of a chuck-e-cheese, or TGI-Fridays, corporate sucks.

I'm stuck in Bend, its my base-camp, but I sure hate what these RE interest have done to this nice little town.

I'll never leave, but I'm not going down without rubbing shit in their nose.

Bewert said...

Re: Deschutes Co. stats 3/01/08 to 3/21/08, all residential types.

Sold: 106
Median: $266,000
Active listings: 3759
DOM 179


March 07 to date.

Sold: 212
Median: $330,000
DOM 180


As compared to NODs:

2008 so far: 286
March so far: 86

Sales are staying ahead. Of course that isn't counting the multiple units in a couple NODs at Aspen Rim.

Anonymous said...

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"after 2025 when they put in the RENO-to-MADRA FWY"

Dude, sorry but that is NEVER going to happen. Even if it would happen, it would not benefit Bend. Why? Because the highway will only serve to reduce travel times between California, Portland, and Washington. The cities in those places that are already big, will become bigger, while Bend will not change at all.

Example: There are all kinds of freeways that criss-cross Nebraska and Wyoming. But since there has never been any big cities there, there STILL isn't. Those freeways have only served to help the cities on the west coast that were ALREADY big: Portland, Seattle, San Fran, etc.

If you don't believe me, take a look at this:

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TD/TP/docs/TMR/GEN1/HB3090.pdf



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Anonymous said...

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foz: Oil has dropped like a rock. Did you make money?



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tim said...

May not be sufficient, but a highway is a prerequisite. It's hell to get a truck here from I-5.

A real highway. A real college. A few real companies. Those would help, but would still not guarantee Bend's success.

foz said...

**foz: Oil has dropped like a rock. Did you make money?**

I'm still in that trade, and up 3.50. The AAPL and GS trades were closed out. Exited a little early on both, but got 15 points on GS and 10 on AAPL. I think both those still have a ways to go, I just didn't want to hold them through a 3 day weekend.

Duncan McGeary said...

Buster,

I live in the best of all possible times, in the best of all possible towns, and I have the best of all possible wives and kids and house and business and cat.

Ned.

foz said...

Don't know if this has been posted or not. http://tinyurl.com/352ypb

What that guy is saying shows that a new trend is starting, which is going to have huge consequences on the credit markets. Once your credit is wrecked by housing, either missed payments or foreclosure, why not just walk away for all unsecured debt?

Anonymous said...

"after 2025 when they put in the RENO-to-MADRA FWY"

Dude, sorry but that is NEVER going to happen.

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It has NOTHING to do with ODOT, I repeat NOTHING TO DO WITH THE state of oregon, this is a federal road that will go from RENO to MADRAS along the I-97 corridor.

its FED-DOT and the project is approved, the bad thing is it only goes to madras, someday in 2050 it will go to I-84.

FED-DOT has a master trans-plan on the internet someday if I'm really bored I'll find it for you.

tim said...

>>What that guy is saying shows that a new trend is starting, which is going to have huge consequences on the credit markets. Once your credit is wrecked by housing, either missed payments or foreclosure, why not just walk away for all unsecured debt?

Interesting question.

I keep hearing that people used to sacrifice everything for house, but now they sacrifice everything for their car & credit cards.

What happens to your credit card rates when you walk away from your house? I think people will try hard to keep their credit cards, because that's all they have to live off of. But if the cards panic and jack up rates and minimum payments on the defaulters, some people may do what you suggest--bail on everything. Go hide in Mom's basement.

foz said...

>>Go hide in Mom's basement.

You don't even have to hide anymore. A hedge fund in Germany that bought some tranch that holds your 5K in some bank credit card isn't going to even bother looking. They will sell the bad debt to someone else for 25 cents on the dollar, that will spend 2 weeks trying to collect before they sell it to someone else for a 1/4 of that. Today there is no incentive re-pay your debts. Worse case scenario is you won't be able to obtain more credit. And where is it written that everyone should live beyond their means and go into ever increasing debt? When they changed the bankruptcy laws they thought that it would solve that problem, but it didn't.

The wheels start to fall of the wagon when people don't behave in ways they are suppose to.

tim said...

>>The wheels start to fall of the wagon when people don't behave in ways they are suppose to.

Exactly why it's important to be careful how you align the incentives that people respond to.

Duncan McGeary said...

I had a bit of a epiphany when I was behind on my credit card debts. Years ago....

If I didn't answer the phone, and let it go to the answering machine, there wasn't a whole more they could do to you....

Anonymous said...

Retirement destinations are faddish.

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The last fad I remember was 10% interest, if you had a little savings you could live well on 10% that lasted quite a few years, and people got comfy retiring in sun-belts.

Then they played dot-com and got wiped out, and then along came the Bend bubble and they tried to makeup the losses on Real Estate.

Then BEND-OREGON advertised 25%/yr apr forever, nothing down. Every geriatric that had a breath came to Bend to buy a condo, or siberian crap-shack.

I agree, its probably been two years now that they quit coming, I think that's why two summers ago city-hall tried so hard to cleanup the condo canyon it didn't matter.

Everyone talks, AARP rates all these places. Retiree's know what the hell is going on.

Bend is no longer cool for retirees, and its no longer cool for kids.

That only leaves low income housing for low income folk. Now how are we going to get them here? How are we going to get low-income people to stay here?

Some of the hardest hit from the subprime collapse are poor blacks & hispanics. Do you think they'll come to Bend?

Bend with its anti-redneck campaign of the last five years, hell even the red-necks stay clear of Bend. They don't want no toilet seat disease, everyone in Eastern Oregon knows Bend is a town of fancy dan faggots with Aids.

So who in the HELL is coming to Bend? We know a lot will be leaving, but who will be coming?

Anonymous said...

Today there is no incentive re-pay your debts. Worse case scenario is you won't be able to obtain more credit.
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I have a sister near LA, who has been declaring bankruptcy every 7, for the past 40 years, and shes still living the life.

She gets a new house every few years, contract purchase never pays a single payment, or down, gets a new car every year, drives off the lot with nothing down, always stated-income, her husband is a contractor,

About every 3 years they evict her, and about every other year they repo the new car, and she applys for credit cards everywhere she goes, I once ran her SSN for her back when it was legal, and she came back with a dozen aliases,

She has been doing this for 30+ years, ...

Her children, her husband, they do it to. One time I asked her about it, and she said "For what I paid in taxes, they owe me", I thought that funny as she never had a job in her life.

Most of her friends live this way, why should she work, car dealers want to move cars, nobody loses on a repo, nobody loses on a non-paid card, nobody loses on a home repo,

They never even look, most people are just too happy to sell the house, or get the car off the lot.

My sister learned when she was young, that she could enjoy the best things in life for free, without working, and the best part is she's now in her 50's and going strong, even with the new bankruptcy law, shes' still driving new cars, got fuel in the tank, and lives in a new house.

Oh, and she even collects welfare, food stamps, medical-aid for the whole family, her husband works under the table his whole life, there's never been taxes filed, they don't make money, ...

Most of her friends do the same,

Here's the point, and it may not be now, but my guess is more than 10% of Americans live this way in cali, and they're now in Bend, living this way, something has to give,

I have long predicted a return of debtors prison, and some states have done it, but we all pay, and easy-money credit, while it keeps our way-of-life running, simply can't keep running this way, eventually the party will end.

foz said...

>>>I had a bit of a epiphany

That is exactly right. And now with skype you can get a new local number every 30 days if you want. That is a huge problem for debt collectors. If they can't call you and harass you they are screwed. It way to expensive to take you to court. When it is unsecured, it is simply that unsecured, there is nothing to seize without a court order, and the odds of that are slim. They are betting that you will honor your debt but today that is not a good bet. In Japan it was a given that you would honor you debt even if you were under water by 75% but in the USofA it ain't going to happen. We are conditioned since birth that a credit score is everything and that you have to have access to credit but it isn't true. In fact probalby the best thing that could happen to someone is to not have access to credit and live within their means.

foz said...

>>eventually the party will end.

not sure if that will be in our life times or not. But when you have a monetary system that runs on debt what are the possible senerios. My guess is that interest rates will have to rise considerably to make up for the risk. or as an alternative debase the dollar. We will probably get a combination of both. We will probably get over the next 10 years or so get bigger bubbles and more disruptions in our economy. At this point we are allowed to invest anywhere we want. So find the most stable economy in the world and park your assets there. Look at your house as the roof over your head and nothing else. And get out of debt. Whether that is from walking away or paying things off it doesn't matter, just get free and clear.

Quimby said...

Foz, have really enjoyed the "Money as Debt" video you linked to before:

http://tinyurl.com/353nol

Very enlightening. I always run off of cash in hand, even for my business, and can never understand why someone wants to borrow to expand. Cash is king.

Bewert said...

Re: ...as an alternative debase the dollar. We will probably get a combination of both.

I think the dollar will be driven down simply to pay for the wars. Debase the dollar and the debt, making our exports easier and our debt seem to at least look like it is feasible to pay off.

Re: And get out of debt. Whether that is from walking away or paying things off it doesn't matter, just get free and clear.

As long as you don't need health care, that works great.

Take my wife. She's epileptic. No drugs, major grand mals in less than 72 hours. Probably death within a few more days. Grand mals are incredibly ugly, especially in a loved one.

We just lost our COBRA, and are working on another insurance plan. COBRA was $700/mo, but included some dental and vision.

Her dosages were adjusted a couple of months ago, increasing one of the two she's one. Our cost this month?

About $1100.

Not everyone can afford that.

And it's not something she brought on herself through driving drunk or even crashing while skiing. She just had it, as her journals from elementary school show absence seizure which went unnoticed because she was embarrassed by them, and it was only diagnosed after her first grand mal in 5th grade.

I've witnessed regular absence seizures in a few of the kids I've worked with, and made sure they got into the record.

But health care is the biggest issue when it comes to bankruptcy. Before and after the new rules.

foz said...

Well it turns out Tim first posted that, so I give him credit. I can't remember who sent it to me. But thought it would be a good fit for Bend. It does shift your view on how the system is constructed. There is a movement to make this all as confusing as possible for everyone. Sort of like the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz. Like the Fed not releasing m3 numbers anymore. Even Rubin admitted that he'd never heard of CDO's. I'd say at least (and some here i'm sure would say more) 70% of our economy is smoke and mirrors. There was a book written years ago by some lady professor, I think late 90's, called Money Meltdown, that warned of all that is happening right now. I remember reading that and thinking we are screwed.

foz said...
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foz said...

Bruce I'm sorry to hear about your wife's problems. My thought and prayers go out to her and you. Check into getting the drugs out of India. And also check our LDN (low dose naltrexone) for epileptic seizures. There are ways around our system. I personally go to Costa Rica for medical or dental stuff. Thailand is also an option. It truely sucks that we live in a country that can afford trillions for a silly little war but can't take care of our own.

Bewert said...

Actually, we've gone through Canada before as needed. BushCo started stopping shipments shortly after Medicare Part D kicked in, so I'll look into that if I have to. We'll figure it out. We can afford what we need.

But there are a lot of people who can't.

And it's not like she's an invalid, you know if you've been here for awhile. She just happens to have epilepsy.

foz said...

Seriously check out LDN. I know from personal experience that it works. That's the last I will say on it on a realestate bubble blog.

Bewert said...

Recession Could Be Worst Since World War II

by DHinMI
Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 05:33:05 PM PDT

It could be real bad:

No less an authority than former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan wrote this week that "the current financial crisis in the U.S. is likely to be judged as the most wrenching" since the end of World War II.

Other noted economists are also sounding alarms. Harvard professor Martin Feldstein, the former head of the National Bureau of Economic Research, said recently he believes the country is now in a recession and it could be a severe one.

[...]

What got people's attention was how quickly Bear Stearns, the nation's fifth largest investment bank, could go from a stock market value of about $3.5 billion when the market closed on March 14 to being sold at the bargain-basement price of about $236 million two days later.

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The problems began last year with rising defaults on mortgages as a housing slump intensified, but they have now spread to other parts of the credit markets with institutions growing fearful about making other types of loans.

It is the ability to get credit that makes the financial system and the economy it supports function. When banks stop lending to other institutions that, like Bear Stearns, depend on credit to conduct their day-to-day operations, the results can be catastrophic.

"We can't afford to stagger from one day to the next without knowing what large financial institution might be the next to go down the tubes because of a lack of liquidity. That is way too dangerous a game," said Lyle Gramley, a former Fed board member who is now an economist with the Stanford Financial Group. "It is possible that we could be entering the worst recession of the post World War II period. The threat is certainly there."

Whether or not the recession is as bad as anything since WWII—and we're pretty much at how bad the recession will it be, not whether we'll have one—it will almost certainly hurt the poor the hardest:

The goods and services Americans consumed in February were 4 percent more expensive than they were a year earlier. But there is a big divide in how much prices are climbing between the basic items people need to live and get to work, and those on which they can easily cut back when times are tight.

An analysis of government data by The Washington Post found that prices have risen 9.2 percent since 2006 for the groceries, gasoline, health care and other basics that a middle-income American family has little choice but to consume. That would cost such a family, which made $45,000 on average in 2006, an extra $972 per year, assuming it did not buy less of such items because of higher prices. For a broad range of goods on which it is easier to scrimp -- such as restaurant meals, alcoholic beverages, new cars, furniture, and clothing -- prices have risen 2.4 percent.

Wages for typical workers, meanwhile, have been rising slowly. In that same time span, average earnings for a non-managerial worker rose about 5 percent. This contradiction -- high inflation for staples, low inflation for luxuries and in wages -- helps explain why American workers felt squeezed even before the recent economic distress began.

And what happens to the financial "geniuses" who helped bring this about?

How can one feel sorry for James Cayne? The potential losses of the chairman and former chief executive of Bear Stearns must rank up there with the biggest in modern history. The value of his stake in Bear Stearns collapsed from about $1 billion a year ago to as little as $14 million at the price JPMorgan Chase offered for the teetering bank on Sunday.

Still, Mr. Cayne was paid some $40 million in cash between 2004 and 2006, the last year on record, as well as stocks and options. In the past few years, he has sold shares worth millions more. There should be financial accountability for the man who led Bear Stearns as it gorged on dubious subprime securities to boost its profits and share price, helping to set up one of the biggest financial collapses since the savings-and-loan crisis in the 1980s. Some might argue that he should have lost it all.

The NYT called the perversity of Cayne making that money while his company was ruined and it's failure throttled the nation's economy and world markets socialized compensation. Because the federal government will probably be forced to come in and back up some of the financial institutions that are crumbling. But why should homeowners get hosed while someone like Cayne skates away with less than he had a while back, but still with tens of millions of dollars for doing a ruinous job of leading his company?

Franklin Roosevelt was sworn in to office on March 4th, 1933. One of his first acts was to call for a special session of Congress on March 9th to deal with the banking crisis. Congress convened at 1:00 PM on the 9th, and the 100 Days were kicked off at 8:36 PM that evening when Roosevelt signed in to law the Emergency Banking Act. 100 days later Roosevelt signed in to law the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial and investment banking.

Let's hope the next President and Congress have that same resolve and sense of urgency. Let's also hope that things aren't so bad that they need to act as quickly as did Roosevelt and the first New Deal Congress.


And methinks that Cayne came out way better than most of his employees and stockholders.

Why does this affect the Bend Bubble? Because the city and the mortgage makers and the companies looking for a line of credit to fill a major order all have to go out in the world financial market for funding.

Source

Bewert said...

Re: Seriously check out LDN.

Not much there on epilepsy, mostly auto-immune disorders. Thanks for the idea, though. Enough said for now.

Bewert said...

Re: It truely sucks that we live in a country that can afford trillions for a silly little war but can't take care of our own.

Especially when virtually every other first world country can. Even France.

Bewert said...

So, what the fuck is up with the kid they are trying to imprison for getting a blowjob from his girlfriend?

He's 17, she's 14, they had him up in front of a grand jury on a potential felony, grand jury said no go, he was prosecuted anyway on some sort of "misunderstanding" and he pleaded guilty per his court-appointed attorney, it was annulled, and now they are trying to get him on misdemeanor blowjob charges.

What the fuck?

It's up behind the BULL firewall here: http://bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080321/NEWS01/803210467/1001&nav_category=

Is she the daughter of some Jefferson County VIP or something?

Something is not right in this case of teen sex.

Anonymous said...

Blogger bruce said...

So, what the fuck is up with the kid they are trying to imprison for getting a blowjob from his girlfriend?

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You should have heard what they did to that guy from Utah who stuck Capstone turbines up peoples ass.

Anonymous said...

Why does this affect the Bend Bubble?

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Because most children under 17 in Bend, will have to provide blow jobs at city-hall to keep the tourists cum-ing to Bend.

tim said...

(thursday, mar 20) "The stock market might not be reflecting a state of panic out there. But Treasury bills sure are. Three-month T-bills are now yielding roughly 52 basis points. Yes, I mean roughly one-half of one percent ... against a federal funds rate of 2.25%. Bloomberg calls today's low yield (0.387%) the lowest going all the way back to at least 1954. That means we have undercut the "deflation scare lows" from 2003." -- Mike Larson

Anonymous said...

Todays WSJ (SAT)

"Housing Market about to get worse"

Tons of New houses and condos coming on the market.

Developers are expected to have to drop prices severely to rid themselves of inventory.

Think the WSJ prints that today, and were we not talking this yesterday! In the meantime, with spring now here, BEND is building madly.

Average inventory in USA has tripled.

The consensus, and this is important, given that retarded builders and developers seem incapable of reading the writing on the wall to stop building, and postpone. The lenders have now called a moratorium, as its their money at risk.

Developers will get wiped out in Bend, across the board. They have to front the money for permits from prior year, and now they just want to finish the projects, trouble is there are no buyers. Everyone struggles to finished their project, and rid themselves of their speculative subdivision land. With NO buyers of the land the projects are all going forward.

The BANKS ( lenders ) now know that even if the developers 'finish', the bank is a risk, massive 'calls' on loans are expected NOW, in order to stop the insane inventory glut. Non-Payment has gone from 5% to 10%.

Condo's are even in a worse case than homes, with the majority of prior deposits now being canceled, most people are walking away, some are suing the developer.

The lenders MUST shelve the projects, its clear that the builders/developers have shown they're incapable of managing the inventory fire.

Bewert said...

Latest from INN 7th mess, letter from Ball Janik to AOU, Pape, INNspired, etc. lawyers:

Re: Hours v INNspired, et al.
Deschutes County Circuit Court No, 07-CV-0724-AB
The Association of Unit Owners of the Inn of the Seventh Mountain v.
Hours, et at.
Deschutes County Circuit Court No. 08-CV-0039-MA

Dear Counsel:

As you all know, we will soon have a preliminary injunction hearing scheduled to determine (l) the issues of Board control during the pendency of this litigation and (2) whether the AUO can take any steps to enforce the putative November 2007 special assessment.

Although our clients have not yet been provided with adequate documentation, it appears that the amount in dispute in these cases is approximately $6 million. This is roughly the amount that INNspired claims to have spent upgrading the core facilities and which INNspired
seeks to recover as a credit against future assessments under the Sublease and Management Agreement By setting the cost ofthe capital improvements at the Inn at approximately $17 million, INNspired claims it is entitled to receive the entire credit against the November 2007 special assessment If the Sublease Agreement is invalidated through this litigation, then any
INNspired credit would disappear. If the Sublease Agreement is somehow a valid, arms-length transaction, then the pre-2008/post-2008 "swing" on the credit under the Sublease Agreement works out to roughly $4.5 million. Consequently, if our clients prevail in this litigation, up to a $6 million benefit will be conferred on the non-INNspired group of unit owners. And, of course, the INNspired group will lose all or most of the $6 million credit that it has previously sought.

In order for the INNspired group of defendants to prevail, they are going to have to demonstrate that: (1) the November 2007 special assessment was not premature, (2) the special assessment was not a capital improvement, so the 75% vote of the AUO membership under Article III, paragraph 5 of the Bylaws was not invoked, (3) the Board, as constituted in
November 2007, was somehow seated in compliance with all the necessary Bylaw provisions for
properly electing Board members, and (4) that defendants actually won the December 31, 2007 vote. In other words, the INNspired group of defendants will have to prevail on all four of these issues in order to defeat plaintiffs' claims. Conversely, all plaintiffs will need to do is prevail on
one of these four issues in order to confer a multi-million dollar benefit on the non-INNspired
AUO members. Of course, if plaintiffs prevail, then plaintiffs will be entitled to their reasonable attorneys' fees pursuant to ORS 100.470.

Even at this early juncture, plaintiffs' litigation fundraising efforts have succeeded. There will be plenty of funds available for our clients to see this litigation through to the end. Because this case is very fact intensive, all parties will expend vast sums in legal fees to have the Deschutes County Circuit Court render a judgment Then, once that occurs, these cases are likely to be tied up in the appellate courts for another two to four years.

Given that the litigation system is an imperfect vehicle for adjudicating a dispute of this nature, it makes sense for the parties to determine, at this juncture, whether a nonlitigation
resolution is sensible. Bruce Calm and I have talked with our clients, and we have decided to determine whether some of the ad hoc settlement-related overtures that have taken place among the various lawyers and individuals in this case can be coalesced into a more
formalized settlement process. We see three primary areas of negotiation:

(l) Resolving the appropriate percentage credit or dollar credit to be given to the INNspired group;

(2) Developing and funding an appropriate building remediation protocol;

(3) Updating the Bylaws and agreeing on other appropriate administrative changes going forward.

Bruce and I have polled our clients, and we write to confirm that all our clients are willing to negotiate these issues in good faith with the goal of reaching an accommodation that everyone can accept, both to resolve the litigation, as well as to move forward with the necessary repairs and establish a working protocol for the future. Presumably, you all share that sentiment.

Given the multiplicity of parties involved, it seems to us that mediation is the best vehicle. But, if everyone prefers face-to-face negotiations, our clients are prepared to proceed on that basis as well.

Please let Bruce or me know whether your clients are willing to see if a negotiated resolution can be reached. If we all proceed down a negotiated path, it makes sense to do it soon, as the short-term and long-term litigation costs will only mount.

Sincerely,

James T. McDermott

...

This letter was dated Feb. 7, 2008, and posted to innowners.com on March 17, 2008. It was followed by another post stating:

Association Members:

We wanted to give everyone a status report of where things stand and where we expect things to go.

We have tried numerous times to negotiate an end to the special assessment and repair issues with INNspired and the Papés. There have been numerous phone calls and multiple face-to-face meetings. Also, our lawyers have attempted to scheduled mediation with the AUO, INNspired and Arrowood. See the attached letter of Jim McDermott. Despite all of these efforts, we have not received a response from the Papés or the AUO to any of our proposals. Making things more difficult, INNspired has refused to participate in any negotiations, including mediation (a negotiation session with an impartial person, often a judge, trying to persuade the parties to reach a compromise) unless and until we drop our claim that the December 31, 2007 board removal election was unfairly and improperly conducted...


McDermott was smart, he sued everyong, not just the AOU. The AOU can use the owners dues to fight them, but the Pape's personally, INNspired, and their monkey board members Keith Dagostino, Thys Heyneker and John Lietz all will be spending their own money defending this.

Can't imagine the monkey board members are much into that, especially if they have to also pay their opponents expensive lawyers when they lose.

News Junkie said...

The WSJ article is specifically about condos, not housing in general, although you could easily extrapolate their findings to the Bend housing market.


Woes in Condo Market Build
As New Supply Floods Cities


"The condominium market is about to get worse as many cities brace for a flood of new supply this year -- the result of construction started at the height of the housing boom."

tim said...

Saw one of Randy's Aspen neighborhood houses in the paper. He wants $500k. Nowadays, that's a $100k down payment. To live in the SW. $100k. Where do you find the buyer for that?

Anonymous said...

Re: "The lenders MUST shelve the projects, its clear that the builders/developers have shown they're incapable of managing the inventory fire."

check the permit #'s for new const:
Jan '06 - ~150+
Jan '07 - 90+
Jan '08 - 8

builders have reacted. plus most permits are for pre-sales...

Bewert said...

Was just out at the free BBQ/open house off Parrell and Murphy. Talking a bit, big woes about banks not lending. Overheard worry about finishing a short sale on an almost-new house at $140/sq ft "before it ends up on the courthouse steps". They seemed pretty worried. Things are not good. About a dozen RE people there, but maybe one other "potential" buyer than me.

Bewert said...

This is really fucking stupid:

Central banks mull buying mortgages: report

By Kate Gibson, MarketWatch
Last update: 2:56 p.m. EDT March 22, 2008

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. Federal Reserve and some of its European counterparts are talking about the practicality of using public money to buy large quantities of mortgage-backed assets to clean up the credit mess jeopardizing global economic growth, the Financial Times reported Saturday.

The discussions are preliminary, with the Bank of England seen as the most anxious to pursue the concept and with the European Central Bank far less eager, the report said without citing sources.

However, the Bank of England was quoted in a later report by the Bloomberg news agency as denying it had plans to pick up mortgage-backed securities, although it is in talks with other central banks on how best to "ease the strains" in the markets.

"We have been examining a number of other options, but it is too early to go into any detail," the Bank of England said in a statement quoted by Bloomberg. "The bank is not among those reported today to be proposing schemes that would require the taxpayer rather than banks to assume the credit risk."

The Fed, which has taken a series of steps in recent weeks to offset the crisis, is reportedly open to the idea, but does not yet view the situation as dire enough to warrant such action, the Financial Times report said.

It also said some analysts believe the Federal Reserve could take further steps to bolster liquidity to the market, while the U.K.'s ability is limited as the country lacks entities equivalent to the U.S. Federal Housing Administration, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The U.K. government recently stepped into the troubled mortgage market in a big way by nationalizing mortgage-lender Northern Rock.
Kate Gibson is a reporter for MarketWatch, based in New York.


So we have more houses than people who can or want to buy them, but we have to keep building more or our economy is going to tank. So the taxpayers can bail the economy out.

How about we spend the $200 billion or so we are spending on missile defense on saving the economy? Nah, that would make too much sense.

tim said...

Wells Fargo 30 year fixed: 5.750%
Wells Fargo 30 year jumbo: 8.000%

Anonymous said...

Jan '08 - 8

builders have reacted. plus most permits are for pre-sales...

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I usually don't get angry, but its MY job to respond to 'stupid' as NOBODY else here will do that.

ALL the fucking BUILDING going on right now, is on last years permits. Yes, the current '8' are custom, but the 2007 permits didn't get 'finished', or many even foundation-poured that is all being done now.

Do you understand??

It's like priny/madras up there are 1,000's of permits that have NOT been followed up, that's money up front that a builder put up, and he doesn't get back until 'finishes'.

Quimby said...

Tim, what is jumbo now? Is it still $417K or did they raise it yet? When does/did that take effect?

Bewert said...

Next developer to go down? Perhaps TAMARACK HOMES LLC

Search http://recordings.co.deschutes.or.us with them in the Last Name field, and you find a bunch of recent "Deed of Trust / Mortgage - Modification / Amendment" where Sterling Savings Bank is really trying not to lose the millions of dollars they have loaned Tamarack Homes, covering a whole bunch of lots in River Rim off Brookswood.

Could Brookswood area be the first big implosion? First Aspen Rim, and now, maybe, Tamarack at River Rim? They are mostly jumbo's, which are a bitch right now.

One example:

The maximum principal amount to be advanced pursuant to the Promissory Note secured by this Deed of Trust is $1,960,800.00.

The maturity date of the Promissory Note secured by this Deed of Trust as amended herein, exclusive of any right or option to renew or extend such maturity date is May, 30, 2008.
...

Reference No.: 2005-82365
Grantor: TAMARACK HOMES, LLC
Beneficiary: STERLING SAVINGS BANK
Abbr. Legal Description: Lots 397-399, 406-412 and 415-420, Riverrim P.U.D., Phase 10,
Deschutes County, Oregon

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THE DEED OF TRUST MODIFIED HEREIN SECURES A PROMISSORY NOTE WHICH
MAY CONTAIN PROVISIONS FOR ADVANCES OF PRINCIPAL, FOR ADJUSTMENTS
IN THE INTEREST RATE AND PAYMENT AMOUNTS AND A BALLOON PAYMENT.

THIS MODIFICATION OF NOTE AND SECOND MODIFICATION OF DEED OF
TRUST ("Modification") is made as of this 6th day of March, 2008, by and between TAMARACK HOMES LLC, an Oregon limited liability company and STERLING SAVINGS BANK, a Washington state chartered bank ("Lender")

RECITALS
A. Borrower is obligated to Lender under the terms of that certain Promissory Note ("Note"), in the amount of One Million Nine Hundred Sixty Thousand Eight Hundred and
No/100 Dollars ($1,960,800.00), Building Loan Agreement ("Loan Agreement"), Deed of Trust from Grantor to Beneficiary encumbering certain real property located in Deschutes County, Oregon ("Deed of Trust") and related loan documents ("Loan Documents), all dated November 28, 2005 ("Loan") and carried on Lender's books as Loan No. 151112077. Said Deed of Trust
was recorded on November 30, 2005, under Deschutes County Recorder's File No. 2005-82365 and modified by Modification of Deed of Trust dated February 27,2008.

B. Borrower has defaulted under the Loan and Borrower and Lender entered into a Forbearance Agreement ("Forbearance Agreement") dated February 27,2008, pursuant to which, among other things, Lender agreed to advance up to Sixty Thousand and No/100 Dollars ($60,000.00) ("Additional Advance") to Borrower under the Note during the forbearance period described therein, ending May 30, 2008.

C. Borrower and Lender desire to amend the Note to allow Lender to disburse the Additional Advance pursuant to the terms and conditions of that Additional Loan Agreement dated February 27, 2008, and the Approved Budget incorporated in the Forbearance Agreement.

D. Borrower and Lender further desire to extend the Maturity Date of the Note from March 1,2008, to May 30, 2008.

NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual benefits contained herein and other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged, Borrower and Lender hereby modify the Note as follows:

1. Additional Advance. Subject to the terms and conditions of the Additional Loan Agreement, the Budget referenced therein, and the Forbearance Agreement, the Borrower shall be allowed to draw an Additional Advance under the Note in an amount not to exceed Sixty
Thousand and No/100 Dollars ($60,000.00). Provided, however, at no time may the outstanding principal balance of the Note exceed One Million Nine Hundred Sixty Thousand Eight Hundred
and NollOO Dollars ("$1,960,800.00). The Additional Advance shall be governed by the Loan proceeds may not be borrowed, repaid and reborrowed.

2. Maturity Date. The Maturity Date of the Note and Deed of Trust is hereby extended to May 30, 2008.


There were 9 Modifications recorded on March 6, 2008 covering 62 lots. The one I just posted is the main one, with the Maturity Date of May 30, 2008. That Feb. 27th Mods are the other eight, which cover ten or so Promissory Notes totaling well over $10 million. I'll post that list next.

They don't seem to have any liens recorded against them.

They don't seem to have sold any homes since last November, and before that March, 2007.

May 30 isn't really that far away. There is going to be blood in the water down there. I might have to take a trip down with my camera.

This is ugly. I stumbled across it checking into the developments I looked at today off Parrell.

Bewert said...

List of Promissory Notes held by Sterling that are due May 30 from Tamarack:

In consideration of the mutual benefits contained herein and other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged, Grantor and Beneficiary hereby agree that the Deed of Trust is modified to provide that it shall secure, in addition to the obligations set forth in said Deed of Trust, each and all of the following obligations, and all extensions, renewals, and modifications thereof or thereto:

1. Promissory Note #151109644 dated on or about August 1, 2005, in the original principal amount of $1,292,680. 00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

2. Promissory Note #151112077 executed on or about November 28, 2005, in the original amount of $1,960,800.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations
set forth therein;

3. Promissory Note #151113059 executed on or about January 19,2006, in the original amount of $535,920.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

4. Promissory Note #151113075 dated on or about June 26, 2006, in the original principal amount of $1,583,760.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

5. Promissory Note #151113133 executed on or about May 1,2006, in the original amount of $943,840.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

6. Promissory Note #151113117 executed on or about March 23,2006, in the original amount of $927,840.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

7. Promissory Note #151113968 executed on or about February 13, 2006, in the original amount of $718,960.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

8. Promissory Note #151115013 executed on or about May 11,2006, in the original amount of $857,440.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein;

9. Promissory Note #151117977 executed on or about September 20,2006, in the original amount of $560,000.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein; and

10. Promissory Note #151107077 executed on or about March 21,2005, in the original amount of $2,026,000.00, with interest thereon, together with all costs and fees, including attorneys' fees, incurred by Beneficiary in enforcing the obligations set forth therein.


That's a total of $10,903,240 plus interest. On Notes dating all the way back to August, 2005, and perhaps finally called on May 30th, unless further extended. And I doubt the bank really want those 62 lots among the 5000 or so we have platted here.

Is Tamarack at River Rim going to follow Renaissence at Aspen Rim?

Anonymous said...

The maturity date of the Promissory Note secured by this Deed of Trust as amended herein, exclusive of any right or option to renew or extend such maturity date is May, 30, 2008

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This is what 'lenders' MUST do now, they have to say enough is enough, its the ALL cut your losses and let your profits RUN.

Anybody still holding ANY BEND RE after this summer is FUCKED I repeat 'FUCKED'.

In the next post, I'll try to explain the old developer dead horse.

tim said...

I believe that as of February, Jumbo is $730k, but just until the end of the year. This is dependent on the area and the bank. You'd have to go lender by lender to figure it out, I think.

Anonymous said...

An Attempt to Explain Exactly what is happening today in Bend.

Developers in 2006 tried hard to sell their lots and projects and get the hell out of town, the problem is that almost all 'doubled their bets', e.g. they had taken all their post 2002 winning, and kept plowing it back into BEND RE projects.

Now in 2007 there were quite a few permits, and developers that had lots, got the projects permitted, and tried to sell the approved projects, nobody bought. They can't just walk away as it their money, so now they're all trying to 'finish' the projects to get their money back.

Here's out it works, usually the developer pays cash for the land, pays for the permit, which 'may' include the SDC, this is why they want it to be cheap, its their money fronted, its easy money for the city, but they used it for party's and NOT infrastructure.

Once you have a subdivision that is approved, and permitted projects, and utility's, then you go to the bank, with architectural plans ( builder money ) and loan money on the homes, they provide 'construction draws', .e.g. portions of money every few months usually 1/4 increments of cost, depending on progress the bank increments the draw. A bank can at anytime cancel the 'draw' if they if they wish, that is what is now happening.

In 2006 many developers knew it was over, but they couldn't sell their land they had 'invested' in, so they went ahead and got projects permitted, but then it still didn't sell, as NO other developer wanted TOXIC SHIT in BEND either, or Hood River for that matter, the second favorite place to make an easy-buck.

NO permits were taken out in 2008, as its game-over the builders are broke, the few permits you see now are the 'riche' people buying lots, and have custom homes built, like Bledsoe up at Highlands@BT.

In the next three months the 'lenders' will stop the draws, this is why all over town, the builder/developers are rushing to 'finish' projects so they can get the draws. Its easy cheap money, now that labor is 1/4 of 2004, and materials are 1/2 you can actually make money on the draw, NOBODY gives a fuck if the home sells thats that 'lenders' fucking problem.

Now the crux of the problem, the lender knows what the fuck is going on in BEND-OREGON.

So they're saying NO MORE fucking money, this means that our developer/builders lose all when they walk, the banks can then try in time to auction the project off, and get their money back, which is of course the developers down-payment.

My guess is that 80% of all Bend builders/Developers will lose their life-savings over the coming year, unless of course they 'sold' their fucking 'last' project in 2007, and most didn't.

I hope the above explains what the fuck is going on.

The homes built in spring/summer of 2008, will be the quickest thrown together, and worst, and cheapest homes ever made in Bend, they're hoping with the 'best in 20 campaign' that during 'peddle,pole,&paddle', that a lot of these death-wish crap-shacks can be dumped prior to foreclosure.

Fall 2008, there will be no workin winter 2009 will be total collapse of the Bend economy.

Bewert said...

Sheldon Development, the guys holding the free BBQ/Open House, isn't doing very well either. On top of owing Sterling $4,808,350, which they managed to extend out to 1/1/2009 about a week ago, they have a $1,592,500 loan from a local trust fund called the Schliep Trust which is due March 30, 2008.

Talking to those guys at the BBQ really brought home how much they are hurting now, let alone in a few months, and just how many there are in the RE dev business here in Bend. That is not good, that narrow huge economic wheel.

Anonymous said...

I believe that as of February, Jumbo is $730k, but just until the end of the year. This is dependent on the area and the bank. You'd have to go lender by lender to figure it out, I think.

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The new bank rules, and PMI, and tiers, aren't consistent, like duncans report on the mandatory 20% down for Bend, in some toxic areas the Jumbo amount is different, it all depends on the 'risk' of the area.

This was all reported about 1-2 months ago, but it sounded like the local Bend media finally reported yesterday that Bend has now been brought to the same tier as California, or Las-Vegas, or Tacoma-Wa.

Every area by tier has its own down requirement, PMI requirement, rate, and jumbo definition.

Yes, its dependent on area, and the NEW down-grade of Bend was just official in the last few days, I thought it odd, over a month ago that the federal government labeled Tacoma-Wa as toxic, but not Bend, I thought it political. I think what has happened this week is that the FED's have 'bitch-slapped' Bend city hall and BEND-RE COBA, and said read our lips. BEND IS TOXIC.

Anonymous said...

Talking to those guys at the BBQ really brought home how much they are hurting now, let alone in a few months, and just how many there are in the RE dev business here in Bend.

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Almost all of our favorite developers are going to lose everything in the next 2-3 months.

They're rushing now to squeeze the 'finish' cash draws.

Which the material liens explode bruce, dry to do a graph like CLIVE has for inventory. You'll see material liens explode, and satisfactions in parity, and if you plot at some point you'll see satisfactions collapse, thats the point where the suppliers close, and then a week later the builders will have no materials and its game-over.

It's going to happen very quick now.

Like me & home have said all along, you ain't going to want to live or buy here anyway, once it goes south. Its going to be dog eat dog.

Where the fuck is the city?? Hiding . Say "Who would have fucking known".

Party on, hire more consultants, to study the problem.

Bewert said...

Re: hire more consultants, to study the problem.

The one's they want to hire now are for improving communication with residents.

Which strikes me as absurdly funny.

OK, we'll OK a $2.5+ million payoff with absolutely no public discussion or even any comments by us the Council, but we will spend a few hundred thousand on consultants to "improve communications".

It's simply fucking absurd.

tim said...

It makes a lot more sense if you read "communication" as "spin." We talked about this ages ago. Every time people complain, they think they just aren't managing the information well enough. They assume we're too butt-stupid to understand how awesome they are. If we don't like what they are doing, we've got it wrong.

They are trying to find the magic "communications" person that will make the public shut the hell up.

Bewert said...

And in news of our other main economic component, we see in the Feb Budget Detail:

Transient Room Tax
Budget $220,725
Actual $116,033
% Exp Rev 53%

So we are almost 50% in tourism in the city for Feb, following a December where the number were:
Budget $202,625
Actual $129,510
% Exp Rev 64%

And January was:
Bduget $220,725
Actual $143,482
% Exp Revs 65%

Not looking good.

Bewert said...

Re: They are trying to find the magic "communications" person that will make the public shut the hell up.

So how do we convince them there is no such person?

Duncan McGeary said...

I wonder if they factored in a drop in their 'expected' estimates.

Anyway, a 35 - 50% drop wouldn't surprise me, based on what I see. We haven't dropped that much, but I have more time to spend with customers....I've always had a solid core of locals, as well as tourists.

Other stores downtown? Seem like the other way around. Mostly tourists, with a small core of locals.

Bewert said...

Trudy's shop seems pretty busy, almost overwhelmed at times with a lean staff. She was lamenting last night she could have sold four bikes instead of two if she had more time to spend with customers. Norway designed in a very low breakeven, focusing on cruisers, so it will be interesting to see the numbers in a few months.

Bewert said...

Krugman's latest:

Partying Like It’s 1929

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: March 21, 2008

If Ben Bernanke manages to save the financial system from collapse, he will — rightly — be praised for his heroic efforts.

But what we should be asking is: How did we get here?

Why does the financial system need salvation?

Why do mild-mannered economists have to become superheroes?

The answer, at a fundamental level, is that we’re paying the price for willful amnesia. We chose to forget what happened in the 1930s — and having refused to learn from history, we’re repeating it.

Contrary to popular belief, the stock market crash of 1929 wasn’t the defining moment of the Great Depression. What turned an ordinary recession into a civilization-threatening slump was the wave of bank runs that swept across America in 1930 and 1931.

This banking crisis of the 1930s showed that unregulated, unsupervised financial markets can all too easily suffer catastrophic failure.

As the decades passed, however, that lesson was forgotten — and now we’re relearning it, the hard way.

To grasp the problem, you need to understand what banks do.

Banks exist because they help reconcile the conflicting desires of savers and borrowers. Savers want freedom — access to their money on short notice. Borrowers want commitment: they don’t want to risk facing sudden demands for repayment.

Normally, banks satisfy both desires: depositors have access to their funds whenever they want, yet most of the money placed in a bank’s care is used to make long-term loans. The reason this works is that withdrawals are usually more or less matched by new deposits, so that a bank only needs a modest cash reserve to make good on its promises.

But sometimes — often based on nothing more than a rumor — banks face runs, in which many people try to withdraw their money at the same time. And a bank that faces a run by depositors, lacking the cash to meet their demands, may go bust even if the rumor was false.

Worse yet, bank runs can be contagious. If depositors at one bank lose their money, depositors at other banks are likely to get nervous, too, setting off a chain reaction. And there can be wider economic effects: as the surviving banks try to raise cash by calling in loans, there can be a vicious circle in which bank runs cause a credit crunch, which leads to more business failures, which leads to more financial troubles at banks, and so on.

That, in brief, is what happened in 1930-1931, making the Great Depression the disaster it was. So Congress tried to make sure it would never happen again by creating a system of regulations and guarantees that provided a safety net for the financial system.

And we all lived happily for a while — but not for ever after.

Wall Street chafed at regulations that limited risk, but also limited potential profits. And little by little it wriggled free — partly by persuading politicians to relax the rules, but mainly by creating a “shadow banking system” that relied on complex financial arrangements to bypass regulations designed to ensure that banking was safe.

For example, in the old system, savers had federally insured deposits in tightly regulated savings banks, and banks used that money to make home loans. Over time, however, this was partly replaced by a system in which savers put their money in funds that bought asset-backed commercial paper from special investment vehicles that bought collateralized debt obligations created from securitized mortgages — with nary a regulator in sight.

As the years went by, the shadow banking system took over more and more of the banking business, because the unregulated players in this system seemed to offer better deals than conventional banks. Meanwhile, those who worried about the fact that this brave new world of finance lacked a safety net were dismissed as hopelessly old-fashioned.

In fact, however, we were partying like it was 1929 — and now it’s 1930.

The financial crisis currently under way is basically an updated version of the wave of bank runs that swept the nation three generations ago. People aren’t pulling cash out of banks to put it in their mattresses — but they’re doing the modern equivalent, pulling their money out of the shadow banking system and putting it into Treasury bills. And the result, now as then, is a vicious circle of financial contraction.

Mr. Bernanke and his colleagues at the Fed are doing all they can to end that vicious circle. We can only hope that they succeed. Otherwise, the next few years will be very unpleasant — not another Great Depression, hopefully, but surely the worst slump we’ve seen in decades.

Even if Mr. Bernanke pulls it off, however, this is no way to run an economy. It’s time to relearn the lessons of the 1930s, and get the financial system back under control.


Hopeful, but realistic. There is not a real big margin of error. What scares me the most is the utter lack of transparent understanding of the actual risk in these verious special investment vehicle. It could make Long Term Capital's collapse look like nothing.

Bewert said...

(COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY OFF TOPIC)

Hey Dunc, check this old Philip K. Dick speech to college students out. It's pretty interesting:

"How To Build A Universe That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later"

http://deoxy.org/pkd_how2build.htm

Well, I will tell you what interests me, what I consider important. I can't claim to be an authority on anything, but I can honestly say that certain matters absolutely fascinate me, and that I write about them all the time. The two basic topics which fascinate me are "What is reality?" and "What constitutes the authentic human being?" Over the twenty-seven years in which I have published novels and stories I have investigated these two interrelated topics over and over again. I consider them important topics. What are we? What is it which surrounds us, that we call the not-me, or the empirical or phenomenal world?

In 1951, when I sold my first story, I had no idea that such fundamental issues could be pursued in the science fiction field. I began to pursue them unconsciously. My first story had to do with a dog who imagined that the garbagemen who came every Friday morning were stealing valuable food which the family had carefully stored away in a safe metal container. Every day, members of the family carried out paper sacks of nice ripe food, stuffed them into the metal container, shut the lid tightly—and when the container was full, these dreadful-looking creatures came and stole everything but the can.

Bewert said...

(ACTUALLY< PERHAPS MORE ON_TOPIC THAN I FIRST THOUGHT, CONSIDERING THE BULL RE NEWS AND THE BANKING CATASTROPHE)

One day a girl college student in Canada asked me to define reality for her, for a paper she was writing for her philosophy class. She wanted a one-sentence answer. I thought about it and finally said, "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." That's all I could come up with. That was back in 1972. Since then I haven't been able to define reality any more lucidly.

But the problem is a real one, not a mere intellectual game. Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups—and the electronic hardware exists by which to deliver these pseudo-worlds right into the heads of the reader, the viewer, the listener.


I am an itinerant reader who reads really fast, as you may have figured out by now. Worst part is, I remember almost all of it...

foz said...

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

I think Phillip Dick gets credit for that. But a better version is Woody Allen's
"Cloquet hated reality but realized it was still the only place to get a good steak."

foz said...

Sorry as I read backwards I see you already gave Dick credit for that quote

Bewert said...

Re: "Cloquet hated reality but realized it was still the only place to get a good steak."

That's funny.

Anonymous said...

the FED's have 'bitch-slapped' Bend city hall and BEND-RE COBA, and said read our lips. BEND IS TOXIC.

I think it took the Fed's this long because our median didn't move down very much. They must have a calculation that triggers the the areas in trouble.
Our median , just recently started to tumble. In a few days we will know if it goes under 300k.

Hom have you ever had 600 posts?

Duncan McGeary said...

"Trudy's shop is busy..."

Hey, come on, Bruce she just started.

Linda's shop is busy too, but I trust what I'm seeing, and I'd be surprised if overall most businesses aren't slower.

Hey do a get a prize if I'm #600?

Duncan McGeary said...

Doh!

Oh, wait. Hey!! Ding, Ding, Ding!!!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Dang.... I guess 601 counts for naught...

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