Where all the jobs have gone
By Jeff McDonald / The Bulletin
Published: June 28. 2009 4:00AM PST
The meteoric rise and fall of Deschutes County’s unemployment rate has garnered national headlines as a prototypical boom and bust story, but what lies behind the county’s unemployment rate increase of 12 percentage points from May 2007 to May 2009?
Where have all the jobs gone? And how will the region look when it recovers?
Many companies reported difficulties finding employees in May 2007, when Deschutes County’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate was 4.7 percent.
Now, with an unemployment rate of 16.7 percent reported last week in the county and rates of 16.4 percent in Jefferson County and 20.9 percent in Crook County, employers report an abundance of labor with companies slashing wages and jobs, unemployment rates at all-time highs and job-seekers going to great lengths to find work.
Experts who study the region’s labor trends agree that the region’s housing market and construction activity became overheated during the boom years between 2004 and 2006.
“I don’t know what we’re shifting to, but when you look at that loss in (mining, logging and construction) jobs in just the last two years, it is safe to say the development-based economy has slowed,” said Carolyn Eagan, the region’s economist for the Oregon Employment Department.
“The county and city of Bend (have) had to cut staff, engineering firms are operating on bare-bones staff and many Realtors are not renewing their licenses,” Eagan said. “I don’t know what we’re shifting to. I don’t think we’ll know until it’s happened.”
The collapse of the housing industry has resulted in a net loss of 3,050 jobs in the county’s mining, logging and construction sector from May 2007 to May 2009, a 36.2 percent drop, according to the Oregon Employment Department. Most of that sector is construction, according to the department.
The county has 4,860 fewer jobs overall than it did in May 2007, the department said.
Other sectors where job losses were reported included manufacturing; professional and business services; and trade, transportation and utilities. They lost 910 jobs, 530 jobs and 710 jobs over the two-year period, respectively.
Individual industries such as high-tech and biosciences, which are smaller in size, are grouped under larger sectors such as manufacturing or professional services, depending on whether they produce a product or conduct research or provide services, for example, according to the Employment Department.
Professional and business services jobs range from those in law offices and architectural firms to employment and janitorial services. The trade, transportation and utilities sector includes retail and wholesale businesses, as well as private utility companies and private transportation companies.
Educational and health services jobs were up by 400, and leisure and hospitality jobs by 240, from May 2007 to May 2009, according to the data.
Those sectors demonstrated growth, but at a milder pace than during the boom years, the department said.
Over the same two-year period, there were 360 government jobs added in Deschutes County.
In May 2007, there were 67,120 jobs, 8.7 percent more than May 2009, according to a report last week from the Employment Department. The county peaked in total employment with 73,510 jobs in June 2007.
Job losses alone do not explain the state and county’s record-high unemployment totals, Eagan said.
The civilian labor force — which includes anyone 16 and older who either has a job or is looking for work — has been growing in the county and statewide despite fewer jobs available, according to the Employment Department.
More people are postponing retirement and staying in the work force, and second-wage income earners such as spouses who previously didn’t work and retirees are re-entering the work force. Additionally, more people are continuing their job search longer than they would normally without finding work, Eagan said.
Unemployment trends
Oregon’s 12.4 percent unemployment rate is the second-highest in the nation, behind only Michigan, which had a 14.1 percent seasonally adjusted unemployment rate in May, according to a U.S. Department of Labor report issued June 19.
The Midwestern state, which has been decimated by the loss of auto industry-related jobs, has seen its civilian labor force shrink from 4.97 million in April 2007 to 4.78 million in April 2008, according to the state’s labor Web site.
Meanwhile, Oregon’s civilian labor force grew from 1.91 million to nearly 2 million over the same time period, according to the state’s employment Web site.
The collapse of the housing market — one part of the asset bubble that also included stocks, retirement savings and other investments — also contributed to the rise in the civilian labor force in Oregon and other Western states, said Timothy Duy, adjunct professor of economics at the University of Oregon.
People who were living off their assets, particularly in a resort community like Central Oregon, were forced to go back to work when they saw their houses and other investments lose value last year, said Duy, who follows the region closely and authors the quarterly Central Oregon Business Index.
“As assets became increasingly impaired and foreclosures started rising, the labor force started (increasing) quickly,” Duy said. “That started a process where the unemployment rate started spiking.”
Mounting job losses also contributed to the rising unemployment rate, which spiked nearly 10 percentage points over the past 12 months — from 7 percent to 16.7 percent, Duy said. Both trends, an increasing number of people who had lost equity in their homes and money in investments, and an increasing number of people who lost their jobs, increased the rate of unemployment, he said.
The county is on track this year — with 1,661 notices of default through Wednesday — to easily surpass the record 1,928 notices of default filed in 2008, but notices appear to have peaked in April. A notice of default is the first step in the foreclosure process but doesn’t always result in bank repossession.
While the unemployment rate could still go higher in coming months, the high unemployment numbers are more of a lagging indicator for the region, a fallout from the overheated housing economy, said Roger Lee, executive director of Economic Development for Central Oregon, which promotes development in the region.
“It cannot be overstated that while it is definitely a painful process, there is a purpose to the business cycle,” he said. “We’d like to have it a lot less deep and prolonged, but we’re seeing people get lean and mean.”
Hardest hit
Construction and manufacturing have been hard hit throughout the region, accounting for roughly half the region’s unemployed workers, but several industries, while battered, are still holding their own, Lee said.
Lane Lehrke, 42, who moved to Bend in 2003 with his wife and two children, bought a home and worked for a local builder as a production manager until October, when he was laid off due to lack of work. He had owned his own company in Oregon City before he joined the Bend builder.
But Lehrke has not been able to find work in the construction field, despite sending out résumés to five different Western states and online sites, he said.
“I have put in résumés in lots of places,” Lehrke said. “I have gotten a lot of nonresponses. Very rarely do I get a response.”
Lehrke, while collecting unemployment, still makes $400 monthly payments to pay for the cost of his builder’s license, insurance and bonding, he said.
“I’ve got some opportunities in the fall,” he said, referring to potential jobs in Portland. “A lot of it has to do with stimulus funding.”
What comes out of the current trough in the business cycle will depend upon how much the county diversifies its employment base, said Lee.
Construction was 11.7 percent of the total work force in May 2007, and is 8 percent today, according to the Employment Department. Manufacturing, meanwhile, was 7.7 percent of the work force in May 2007, and is 6.9 percent today.
“This place is not tanking,” Lee said. “There are indicators of economic activity still going on here.”
The economy needs more diversity, but is not on a tipping point like it was in the 1980s, Lee said.
That was when the region’s mills were crippled by changing forest policies and the area began to rebuild its economy, he said.
“There are a lot of examples in the West where the change in forest policy decimated those areas,” he said. “Central Oregon has done a decent job, but we still need to do better in targeting industries that have promise.”
The region needs to target companies in knowledge-based industries such as renewable energy, software and medical device manufacturing, he said. Global competition is fierce in recruiting “green” companies, which provide top wages and heavy capital investment, Lee said.
Central Oregon has been competitive in its recruiting efforts for those types of companies, Lee said, citing more affordable land in the region, a ready work force and quality of life. Lee expects to find companies that are the right size for the region, possibly landing suppliers for Portland’s growing green manufacturing base.
Companies such as Bend-based dog apparel manufacturer Ruff Wear and Warm Springs Composite Products, which both ship products overseas, are faring well. Others that have been hit hard by the national recession, such as Madras-based manufacturer Bright Wood and Contact Industries in Prineville, are retooling and will eventually provide jobs in Jefferson and Crook counties, Lee said.
“With very few exceptions, these are very sophisticated wood products manufacturing companies,” Lee said. “They will be back with those kinds of jobs. Our challenge is to diversify with other types of jobs.”
OK, without looking, was the title:
or
WHERE ALL THE JOBS HAVE GONE
Right. The first one implies jobs that are gone. The second implies that the jobs are "still there", they are just hanging out somewhere smoking cigg's or something.
Very sleezy writing, and something I guarantee Costa jumped in to change. Sooooo... the first is a more appropriate title, but of course it is the second that was actually used. You can tell, because the writer uses the obviously "correct" title in his second paragraph:
You find, of course, there is no answer to either.
WHERE ALL THE JOBS HAVE GONE.
So it is a STATEMENT, not a question. And it appears that the answer is NOWHERE. They're just gone. They aren't hiding somewhere, waiting to be found.
You gotta love these softball pieces, where the reader is treated like they are 5 yrs old.
Where have all the jobs gone? And how will the region look when it recovers?
Here's the real answer: Most of that employment near the peak was FAUX JOBS & FAKE BUSINESSES, 100% fake and unneeded and unsustainable jobs, businesses that never had a chance.
Building houses no one wanted. Mortgage brokers hired, apprasiers for falsified appraisals. And all the "multiplier" jobs: All the jobs & businesses that were spawned from a credit-fabricated bubble, to feed demand that had no basis in reality.
Those jobs are gone. And the "multiplier" jobs; the coffee shack purchases, the Jamba Juices, the oil changes and all the other stuff that "fuels" those faux jobs will soon be gone too.
Remember the local business index that the Bully used to print? Well, one of the most out-of-control pieces of that index was the Help Wanted ad count.
Over the course of just a few years, it went from 1-2,000 to something like 12,000!
THAT was the bubble. Well, at least it showed the jobs bubble that happened here. We should have known FULL WELL something was wrong when we saw that stat.
But we didn't despite have sharp as nails local experts making the following observations:
Experts who study the region’s labor trends agree that the region’s housing market and construction activity became overheated during the boom years between 2004 and 2006.
Wow.
Do you think so, Costa?
Funny. In this sentence, it starts out regarding experts studying the "region's labor trends", and ends up with a conclusion about our "overheated" construction market.
Standard bamboozling bullshit.
And what's great is although we are promised some sort of insight into what the area will morph into, the piece never delivers:
“I don’t know what we’re shifting to, but when you look at that loss in (mining, logging and construction) jobs in just the last two years, it is safe to say the development-based economy has slowed,” said Carolyn Eagan, the region’s economist for the Oregon Employment Department.
“I don’t know what we’re shifting to. I don’t think we’ll know until it’s happened.”
Is this one of the "EXPERTS", Costa? Seriously.
She is really going out on a ledge here, with such forward-looking statements as:
...it is safe to say the development-based economy has slowed
Dang. I guess maye she looked over at the sidebar and saw the following stat:
Mining, logging and construction 8,420 to 5,370 (jobs) — Down 36.2%
Nice touch. The strangely globbed together industries of mining, logging and construction has LOST ONE THIRD of it's job base, and THE EXPERT has made the observation that THE DEVELOPMENT BASED PORTION OF OUR ECONOMY HAS SLOWED.
Never "shrunk". Not "lost". No, no. Slowed.
Q: "Dude, are you feeling better after that motorcycle accident where you lost your fucking arms and legs?"
A: "Fuck dude, I didn't LOSE anything! They were just slowed!"
Q: "Dude, did you also become retarded?"
So, needless to say there is a ton of Costa-fueled double-talk in this piece. But there are also outright contradictions of earlier "assertions":
The collapse of the housing market — one part of the asset bubble that also included stocks, retirement savings and other investments — also contributed to the rise in the civilian labor force in Oregon and other Western states, said Timothy Duy, adjunct professor of economics at the University of Oregon.
People who were living off their assets, particularly in a resort community like Central Oregon, were forced to go back to work when they saw their houses and other investments lose value last year, said Duy, who follows the region closely and authors the quarterly Central Oregon Business Index.
Remember, way back when, we were told repeatedly that BECAUSE Cent OR had such a huge Asset-Rich retirement base, that we were essentially IMMUNE to unemployment anymore?
Uh huh. All those IDLE MILLIONAIRES just stuffing westside houses, didn't need to work, or do anything but cycle all day, and get their cocks sucked all night by their best friends wife, while Bledsoe swallowed donkey cum buckets.
Welp, all of a sudden those motha fuckas need money, and are starting to take jobs at McDonalds.
These are the WAKE UP AND SMELL REALITY Cali-banger dumbfucks who thought they'd come here and never work another fucking second in their lives... dead ass broke.
THAT is who is UNEMPLOYED, that is what's come outta the fucking woodwork. Costa told us we'd all ride a magic carpet of affluence FOREVER cuz these motherfuckers would never stop CUMMING here, and showering us with BILLIONS.
Yeah, these fuckers are BROKE.
Finally, we get Roger Lee's take, who basically says it was over months ago, and it's great that it happened:
While the unemployment rate could still go higher in coming months, the high unemployment numbers are more of a lagging indicator for the region, a fallout from the overheated housing economy, said Roger Lee, executive director of Economic Development for Central Oregon, which promotes development in the region.
“It cannot be overstated that while it is definitely a painful process, there is a purpose to the business cycle,” he said. “We’d like to have it a lot less deep and prolonged, but we’re seeing people get lean and mean.”
It's all good with Lee. His mother could get her head cut off in a fucking car wreck, and Lee would spin that shit as something she really needed to happen anyway. Yeah, she gettin' "lean and mean", right Roger?
OK, enough about the Bully's non-stop bullshit machine. Not much to say about this next nugg, but man it hurts:
Woof, that is a hideous hit to US net worth, down from $12.5 trillion or so, to below $7.5T and still falling. Keep in mind that is a 57 year chart.
If you extrapolate out some sort of bottoming process, it could easily go on for 15-20 years.
And that's just "stabilizing": We'll NEVER hit the peak values of 2006 in our LIFETIMES.
Couple this with NAR, who continues to try to make the salad days appear by reinstating practices that caused this mess to begin with:
Real Estate Associations Want Appraisers To Inflate Home Prices
The housing is still struggling because appraisers are being too tough assessing the value of homes.
That's the self-serving argument being made by realtors who are complaining that lower appraisal values of homes are delaying deals, ruining sales and prolonging the housing crisis.
Appraisal fraud was an enormous contributor to the unsustainable run up in prices during the boom period. Many (but not all) mortgage brokers and realtors referred buyers to appraisers that ALWAYS hit the number of the home purchase price
Now, NAR and other real estate lobbying groups, who are trying to maintain stay in business despite the total destruction of their market, are mobilizing a major effort to reach out to Congress and housing officials.
As NAR economist Lawrence Yun said earlier this week, "Lenders are using appraisers who may not be familiar with a neighborhood, or who compare traditional homes with distressed and discounted sales." Instead, Yun and his bunch want appraisers who won't be too tough. As Yun puts it, "There is danger of a delayed housing market recovery and a further rise in foreclosures if the appraisal problems are not quickly corrected."
And what about the RIDICULOUSLY LUCRATIVE easy-life of local moving companies? Well, they are finally getting their comeuppance!
Housing, unemployment woes leave movers shaken
Sinking home prices and a weak job market have forced normally restless Americans to stay put in an uncharacteristic shift that has, among other things, clobbered the moving industry.
Yeah, basically the moving trade is imploding. But still we need local Government bureaucrats to save us from these sleezy fuckers, who are barely holding on by their fingernails:
'Sting' targets unlicensed movers, so you're not stung
You can read the piece direct, but the comments tell of the outrage over such bullshit:
Native Oregonian says:
2 days ago, 04:19:51 PM
"When I was a kid my brothers and I made money by doing yardwork for neighbors, babysitting, having kool-aide stands, washing cars. and doing housework for neighbors. I suppose most of the above would now require bonding, licensing, permitting, liability insurance, etc. Thankfully, we were never sued and all our "clients" seemed happy with the work we did and even tipped us sometimes.
Yes, all these monstrous state agencies are supposed to "protect" the consumer but they just create more out-of-control spending government with perks and pers. A claim against a contractor needs to go through a long process and even when the contractor is licensed and bonded, if he (she) files bankruptcy, your claim could be released in the process regardless of their bonding.
Oregon Construction Contractors Board allows the licensed contractor 6 months to pay a judgement or settlement agreement before a bonding company is involved if they fail to pay. Oregon licensed contractors can appeal the decision and again this takes months. Who pays for any necessary immediate repairs?
So, do you think this highly over-regulated state will pay your claim? Nada. Many bonds are for $10K and if you as a homeowner get a judgement over the bonded amount, all you are left with is a piece of paper that you likely will not collect on, over the bonded amount of money.
I tried to find someone to do some weeding for me this summer. Every licensed landscaper, or yard worker wanted from $40-$67 HOURLY. They explained that was because of the high cost of the state requirements for licensing. I did not use them.
Did all the people working at Cessna that are unemployed or soon to be unemployed make that much money? I personally would hire an unlicensed mover, yard worker or babysitter any time I could and use my own resources to determine if I feel they are qualified and honest to complete the job properly.
As for my weeding, I found a very dependable, responsible, hard-working and honest person that quickly completed the work I needed done. I paid him $25 an hour and he was not licensed. I am very pleased with his work and more pleased that he is not licensed.
Guest says:
2 days ago, 04:50:15 PM
"Let this be a very important lesson to all you kids out there running those lemonade stands in front of your house,,, If someone say`s "we`re here to help you" RUN !!!!
Guest says:
Yesterday, 04:16:23 PM
"wow that is lame. hurting the little man trying to make a buck! everyone involved in this should be ashamed and apply for work out of the country, karma is a bitch!
There were 18 vehicles caught in this "sting". How many got tickets?
In Thursday's sting, there were 18 vehicle-related violations issued and one was placed out of service for safety violations.
Fucking ODOT scumbags, and they used cops as their THUGS.
This is a bunch of rag-tag, broke ass broke down and out workaday bastards who are just trying to do something to put food on the table, and ODOT hands out tickets to each & every one.
They raise the SPECTRE of unlicensed BANDITS stealing your shit on a meth-fueled, gun toting bender, when that is 100% UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT. These poor fuckers can barely afford to pay attention.
And that's where this thing is going: Vultures stripping the meat off damn near dead carcasses. Cops & ODOT stripping the poor, NAR wants to steal from new homebuyers by inflating the bubble anew.
Everybody in strip-N-flip mode.
hbm, will you please flip and strip me?
Dunc, do you have paper or plastic for my comics?
252 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 252 of 252 Newer› Newest»“We’re at a point where I don’t know how much lower it can get.”
Uh oh, Scott. Your anchoring bias is showing.
I don't know about you KUNTS but to me "BP" means BEAKER-PUSSY.
My god I love beaker, and bewert is a beaker clone.
Uh, about 50% lower, ... $180k to $120k not a fucking problem between now and 2012.
What I mean is they say we're at $220k, but I bet its more like $180k today to actually sell. I can really see shit going back to 1998 pricing which was about $120k.
That's why I say 50%.
Another 1/2 haircut from today, is an easy forecast of Bend.
On 1031, lets remember that it was a Tax-Scam that Calis thought they could avoid taxes, so 1031 was assholes fucking each other on both side.
The thing with the principals of 1031 is they were all Jewish, and running the biggest christian zionism in the PNW with MOSS and gang ( home schooling ) remember MOSS is the chairwoman of Christian-homes schooling NW. These are all fronts to funnel money back to Israel.
Pay NO fucking attention to CACB, the real gig for MOSS was robbing $200M of city-of-Bend money by owning city-hall and passing the money through MDU, for every nickel MOSS got MDU stock.
CACB was always a charade. If Bend is OZ, and MOSS is the wizard, then MDU is behind the curtain, and CACB is the city-of-oz ( BEND ).
BEM is full of shit on CACB, as he missed the two biggest issue, (1) that they spent all their on hand cash in the last year buying their own stock (2) that Moss will not walk with SHIT from the CACB gig, but will be set for life on the MDU heist.
Have a nice day fucking morons of Bend.
OH NO!!! It's da JEWZ!!
Scott Wicklund, a commercial real estate broker with the DuBois Wicklund Group in Bend, said investors are “testing the waters,” especially those that can afford to take advantage of low purchase prices and hold the development properties until market demand returns.
“People are starting to sense it’s near the bottom, that these opportunities are pretty good right now,” Wicklund said. “We’re at a point where I don’t know how much lower it can get.”
Bwaaahahahahahah!!!!!! You're going to find out! Fortunately, you're using OPM, so if it all doesn't work out... right? or did you put your own money in? If so, I wish you luck.
"Oh, by the way...Crown Point National Bank (in organization), the soon to be newest crown jewel in the Central Oregon banking community, is gone. Or at least that's what I think I recently heard the wife of Andrew Gerlicher (president and CEO of CPNB) say at a gathering. Seems the seed money just up and blew away."
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More info, please.
I have heard that FDIC will not insure the bank, hence the bank will not go forward.
That does not mean that all the original investor money (in escrow) "just up and blew away".
Maybe some start up funds were spent getting them part way through the organization process, but that still leaves the bulk to be returned to the original investors.
What do you know from "wife of Andrew Gerlicher (president and CEO of CPNB)" or other insiders?
Real info, not rants from buster's Thigh-land jungle bunny stewardess.
If Bend is OZ, and MOSS is the wizard, then MDU is behind the curtain, and CACB is the city-of-oz ( BEND ).
I'm going to have to go back and watch the Wizard of Oz again, to figure all these characters out.
If the city of Bend is Oz does that mean the state of Oregon is actually Kansas? When people say "What's the matter with Kansas? maybe they are referring to Oregon?
Well its all quite funny cuz MOSS runs the 'christian home schooling network', and Neumans daughter about six times on her website mentions 'home schooling'.
Dear daddy used to run christian-zionism, ... for Oregon.
Just ranting, nobody bother connecting the dots.
One thing is fucking talking about JEW-TAH.
Just like MADE-OFF sent out his kids to vow for him after the heist, here we have Neumann sending out is Jew-Tah-Daughter to save the day with Bend bullshit. Toss in some 'home schooling' and the fucking Bend christians will Bend over another day.
Its a Jew-Tah thing, to send out the kids when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Goyim just eat this shit up.
OH NO!!! It's da JEWZ!!
The Shire shit, was a good one. Bottom? Not for 3-5 years. Their holding time. More Cali-suckers. I say, fleece em and eat em.
We do that well here in Bend, eh? They seem to have gotten a relatively fair deal compared to the original purchase, but who's ass do they have their head up, thinking we are near a bottom.
Never ever give a sucker a break.
Time for more B,B & B'S.
"Bend, population 80,000, offers a resort-town lifestyle in Oregon’s high desert with a view of the Cascade Mountains, a unique combination of big-town amenities and outstanding outdoor activities."
Offering the old poverty-with-a-view deal again, eh?
But where the hell are those "big-town amenities"? Only "amenity" we've got that's big-town is the traffic at Reed Market and Third during rush hour.
Can't resist mentioning how transcendantly shitty our "summer" weather is currently. How many places in the Lower 49 do you have to wear a fucking SWEATER in July???
"PARADISE" MY BIG HAIRY ASS!!!
They can take this town with its fucking endless winters and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Oh wait -- it already IS where the sun don't shine.
Damn global cooling has other cities in its grips this year, too.
Some records are being broken.
Just for you Buster:
"Johnson said that "as a matter of legal authority," the administration’s powers to detain someone under the law of war don’t expire for a detainee after he’s acquitted in court. "If you have authority under the law of war to detain someone" under the Supreme Court’s Hamdi ruling, "that is true irrespective of what happens on the prosecution side."
Martinez looked surprised. "So the prosecution is moot?" he asked.
"No, no, not in my judgment," Johnson said. But the scenario he outlined strongly suggested it is. If an administration review panel "determines this person is a security threat" and "for some reason is not convicted of a lengthy prison sentence, I think we have the authority to continue to detain someone" under "law of war authority" as granted by the September 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force, Johnson said. And beyond that source of authority "we have the authority in the first place."
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And of course even fucking Obama is buying into it.
Hell, over 100 people have died under interrogation in our custody since 9/11. Keeping a few dozen more is nothing.
Re: Damn global cooling
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Comfortable 80's most of the time here. Haven't hit the triple digits I was fearing yet. Kind of nice, actually.
And, going back to yet another Anonymouse, who is BEAKER?
Bruce Pussy:
- gift that keeps on giving
- the mouse that continues to roar
- the pussy that never leaves
- the loser who is always lost
- the bozo who keeps on bozoing
- the buttplug that's never plugged
A blip in the RE sales radar. Seems some are buying into the "Best Time BS"
Bend SFR June 09 sold: 131
Median price $210k
Can you sing? dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb, do beyaba, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.....
Yet another Anonymous said...
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Nothing that brought anything new to the discussion, as usual.
Hey, hate me all you want. Who cares?
It's just your way of ignoring your friends and neighbors reality. A Just like Neumans' daughter and her pathetic website about how she shouldn't have to pay back Inland for her Skyliner Summit house and why the RE collapse is the real reason for her Dad's demise.
Not the fact that they played fast and loose with their exchange funds. And it bit them in the end.
Pathetic. And exactly the reason why Bend is stuck in the muck.
Keep up the good work. You and Kathie. Smartest folks in the conference room at Bend City Hall.
I love bewert.
I love beaker.
I love bruce.
I love Capstone buttplugs.
I love the muppet's, I think the muppets should be the official TV/Movie of BB2. All should be forced to watch continually. Maybe even better than the simpsons analogy?? No?
Let's remember one thing on the Jew Ranting thing, .. that both Marge & Buster are jews.
We have the right to bitch, when our own people look and act like assholes.
All this shit about Christian Zionism and 1031 is public record, and so is the $200M that MDU-Knife-River cleaned out of the Bend city treasury. Moss is a director of MDU, and when CACB implodes MOSS will walk from Bend as a rich woman set for life.
Watch Made-Off and then understand Bend.
Yes BP your fucking OREO is an asshole.
So are you & dunc still defending the asshole? But I not blame the OREO, I blame the US PUBLIC. I blame Bend.
Let's not forget that the majority of BEND voted for Palin.
I laughed my ass off at the pet-parade the other day, there were all these 'stop the war' boothes at Drake Park, housed by old Bend Bitches with stickers about stopping the war.
I ask them "Do you realize that Bend leads the world in encapsulated aerial delivery of sterilization weapons for war"?? Shocked, Shocked they said, ... and if true it would be in the Bulletin.
I reminded them that IB-Farbin that produced Zyklon-B to gas jews created good jobs, and the entire city that produced Zyklon supported their good work all during the war just like Bend.
Bend and the USA deserve the fucking OREO, but the rest of the world is going to walk from the dollar, and the USA will implode. Just like Bend, just like 1031, and just like the Bend Christian Community held together by 1031-RE money.
Nothing that brought anything new to the discussion, as usual.
Hey, hate me all you want. Who cares?
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Shit BP, take it fucking personal why don't you. You were told when you arrived in BEND you would never be loved, except sexually. You now have left, but still come back virtually.
Yes, Kathy is now the king-bitch of Bend, but so what the bandits are long gone or dead, and Kathy gets to clean the mess. In many ways Kathy can be thought of OREO.
Why you even care about Bend BP? Your gone, and your NEVER coming back, we know.
In the next 2-3 years everything in Bend will be stripped of value, all fixtures, man-holes, ... this place will look like a Tijuana, Mexico. What you care?
Wow, the old BB2 is back all of a sudden. Now I have something to read at the office.
Was in pre op at St. Chucks this AM and girl in the cell next to us was getting her fake titties, all I could thinks of was you guys and laugh. Figured she had an Escalde in the lot somewhere.
>> girl in the cell next to us was getting her fake titties
Marge, that is sad. All some people have to live for I guess.
Bend must be in the shitter...can't even get people to RSVP to a kid's birthday party.
If I understand, the Crown Point folks had to raise $26.5MM minimum capital. They were probably unable to do that.
http://www.occ.treas.gov/interp/may09/ca896.pdf
Per this conditional approval, Crown Point MUST have $26.4MM capital on hand at startup. While they "target $30-40MM of capital," this is a REQUIREMENT.
So it may just be a matter of them being unable to raise the needed capital.
That 1031 exhchange bullshit shows how dumb accountants and lawyers are with investments. Real estate gains be on real estate gains. What was SUPPOSED to happen when the merry go round stopped?
[>> girl in the cell next to us was getting her fake titties
Marge, that is sad. All some people have to live for I guess.]
you jealous, or queer?
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[>> girl in the cell next to us was getting her fake titties
Marge, that is sad. All some people have to live for I guess.]
you jealous, or queer?<<
At 36 D I am not jealous, but what does queer have to do with my comment?
Asshole!
If you can afford to buy and hold it might make sense to buy now, even if we're not at rock bottom yet. In 1985 Bob Chandler told me to leverage myself to the hilt and invest in Bend real estate. If I had taken his advice I'd be a rich man today (and probably not living in Bend).
"Was in pre op at St. Chucks this AM and girl in the cell next to us was getting her fake titties"
Can't be a successful trophy wife and then a successful cougar without them fake titties! Consider them an investment.
"In 1985 Bob Chandler told me to leverage myself to the hilt and invest in Bend real estate."
Anecdote. We remember all the fish that got away. We forget the bum steers.
Re:
Yes, Kathy is now the king-bitch of Bend, but so what the bandits are long gone or dead, and Kathy gets to clean the mess. In many ways Kathy can be thought of OREO.
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Except Obama has a brain. Kathie has a cheerleading outfit.
Seriously, being interviewed by her was like talking to a wax figure. "While I'm Mayor this city won't go BK!" while unable to speak of specifics.
Anyway, kunts, later. Sometime soon.
BP: "Anyway, kunts, later. Sometime soon."
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No hurry, we don't miss you. Remember, you left Bend, move on already!
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Marge: "you jealous, or queer?<<
At 36 D I am not jealous, but what does queer have to do with my comment?
Asshole!"
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If you ain't jelous, then you be queer, lusting after the boobs next bed over. And propably a dike lesbian, with that 'tude you be sporting. Asshole? WTF?? Bitchy lesbian is my guess.
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anon: "Real estate gains be on real estate gains."
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And tax deferred be taxes paid later or never. D'OH !!
What, are you queer or just stupid?
I thought everybody who did investment RE did 1031s. Just get the honest facilitators, not Summit!
the Bend area is forecast to see a job growth rate of 1.1 percent over the next year.
That number doesn't sound like much, but it's the fifth-highest rate in the entire country, as the vast majority of metro areas are expected to see more job declines.
http://www.ktvz.com/global/story.asp?s=10673255
>>"it's the fifth-highest rate in the entire country"
maybe the California transplants who rent their house and wish they lived in Topeka will get those jobs. Or maybe not
"Can't resist mentioning how transcendantly shitty our "summer" weather is currently. How many places in the Lower 49 do you have to wear a fucking SWEATER in July???"
HEY THERE "HE BUTTFUCKS MEN", AFTER YOU MOVED UP FROM SAC-TOWN HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT GETS COLD AT 3800 FEET?
In 1985 Bob Chandler told me to leverage myself to the hilt and invest in Bend real estate. If I had taken his advice I'd be a rich man today
NAH YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FUCKED THAT UP TOO JUST LIKE THAT JOB YOU USED TO HAVE.
School is out and the 12 year olds are near the keyboards again.
California, give us your poor.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31853397
Or, we can just make them poor once they get here. Either way.
Foul!
Wonder when this will finally hit the mainstream media: http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1192-FLASH-Goldman-Code-Theft-BOMBSHELL.html
It really is who you know...
Great article, Bruce... "If, if, reason to believe, if, could, if, might, crazy Kos, if, allegedly, if." Yeah, can't wait until all that hits the mainstream news. Should knock Michael Jackson clean off the cover of People magazine. Maybe try a newsreader that can let you filter out the Kos noise.
"Can't resist mentioning how transcendantly shitty our "summer" weather is currently. How many places in the Lower 49 do you have to wear a fucking SWEATER in July???"
WHAT A FUCKING PUSSY, CALI-FUCK!
Nice arkitickle from the Kos, Dickhead. Some hard-hitting stuff.
OK Who the hell is wearing a sweater? Do you have any blood circulation at all? I've been in shorts and T-Shirts all month. Been floating the river with friends and family. Do not remember getting cold once. Yeah, agree that it hasn't hit 100. But a sweater? You just have a Mr. Rogers fetish, I assume.
What are you smoking, Bruce? Media already has Goldman story. Get your ass out of marginal news sites.
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ncl=dD-XhJL4i1ryG3McdJ99KcyE6W4MM
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