Sunday, December 14, 2008

Failure Nation

It's really sort of amazing what is happening in this country today.

We've had a credit-fueled boom of consumerism these past 30 years or so. Just borrowing from the future to enjoy today. Not a horrible thing, until it goes overboard, which it did.

So to fuel the boom, we've built out excess capacity. An enormous amount. Just a ridiculous amount in consumer banking, and Bend is exactly where it should be in this regard, Far Behind The Times. People are still building banks in Bend. They're still building Everything in Bend.

This is exactly what the auto bailout is about: Taxpayer subsidizing of Excess Capacity. Keep It Alive, Keep It Going.

We don't need it, and No One Can Afford The Products, The Horrible Management, or the Incredible Union Greed, but KEEP IT ALIVE, No Matter What.

We, as taxpayers, are actually being force-fed failure-laden bailouts. We will soon bailout everything. Airlines are probably next. The only thing that won't get bailed out will be companies & industries that don't WANT it.

So what is the upshot? We are expending BILLIONS, probably trillions, to keep excess capacity alive & well. Producing millions of cars we cannot afford and DO NOT WANT. Trillions are being thrown into bank coffers to get us to borrow, but strangely, nobody is.

When it comes down to it, we borrowed to the hilt from the future, and now we can't repay. Everybody borrowed. GM borrowed to build plants. Banks, ironically, borrowed to buy mortgages, and were enriched per transaction. Individuals borrowed and bought the only asset that possibly could have absorbed this much lending capacity, homes, by the millions.

We have too much of almost everything, and we can't make the payments to keep it. Can't pay it off. So "we" have gone to the government & asked for trillions. Well, the banks are getting it. GM, Ford & Chrysler are getting it. Defaulting borrowers are "trying" to get it via Fannie & Freddie's moratorium on foreclosures.

In other words, Idiots Are Getting Rich and The Responsible & Prudent Are Funding It. Nice.

So what's going to happen? Well, I suppose in the ordinary scheme of things, if you are demanding quantity X of something, and producers are putting out 2X, prices will fall. Right? But falling prices brings on failure, which we are of course, vigorously trying to avoid. So we Have To keep prices artificially high.

So US Taxpayers are in the uncomfortable position of not just subsidizing current production that we do not want & can't afford, but owing well over $10 TRILLION dollars in future earnings to pay off government debts as well. And we will somehow have to keep prices HIGH to avoid failure.

So our money is simply funneled to bank presidents. To union bosses. To government bureaucrats. To every FAILURE in this country.

The More succesful you are, the MORE You Are Penalized. The LESS successful you are, the MORE You Are Rewarded.

And THE BIGGEST FAILURES are actually holding out for the Most:

‘UAW bailout’

It is a mistake to use part of the $700-billion rescue package to reward high-tax, non-right-to-work states such as Michigan, says Peter Flaherty, President of the National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC).

“The automaker bailout is actually a UAW bailout,” Flaherty said. “The union will not allow companies to deploy capital in ways that the market would dictate, such as closing plants and layoffs.”

Under Frank’s legislation, car companies receiving bailout money would face tougher restrictions on executive pay and dividends to their shareholders, the A.P. reported.

NLPC says the UAW wants additional taxpayer money to enrich health and retirement plans it controls. Indeed, UAW President Ron Gettelfinger has urged Congress to act immediately to provide a separate, additional $25 billion in loans so auto companies can meet their health care obligations to more than 780,000 retirees and dependents.

Awesome. The UAW will, HOPEFULLY, finally kill The Golden Goose. They are the 600lb suckerfish on the 20lb gristle-laden near-death automakers ass. I HOPE TO GOD they kill it. Because that is truly what the auto-bailout is: UAW payoff. We are paying big fat tubs of shit $90/hr to do NOTHING. Heard of JOB BANKS?

UAW is The Most Corrupt Bunch Of Greedy Fucks On Earth. Followed By Auto CEO's. There are actually thousands of non-union auto-workers, and extended industry workers, several of whom I Know, who think these two groups deserve each other, and deserve extinction. Even though it would probably threaten their own job. MOST of lower Michigan OPPOSES the bailouts.

What the hell is going to happen? We're paying TRILLIONS to keep alive capacity, predominantly Credit Capacity, that No One Can Pay For Anymore. Even 800FICO's aren't getting money.

Well, I can see a few things happening: Corporate ROI going to 0% or below. We are simply funneling money into products no one wants. Profit is simply (Unit Volume X Price) - Costs. And we are witnessing imploding volumes and prices, while Costs are being kept as high as they ever were. So I see permanent lowering of ROI as long as the Bailout Regime holds.

FAILURE Must Be Be Allowed To Take It's Course.

We are becoming Socialists Speculators. Our Government, is actually putting us into the auto and banking industries via EQUITY holdings. Believe me, they will SOON have us in the housing market. The government will soon start taking over HUGE housing developments. It'll happen.

Innovation Lost. Failure is a CLEANSING PROCESS. Failure MUST happen, or necrosis sets in. We are subsidizing FAILURE, and keeping alive the Dead.

War. We, or someone else, will be at WAR soon.

In China, anger rises as economy falls
The crisis in global capitalism has spelled trouble for the Chinese Communist Party, confronted by public unrest as factories shed workers and investments collapse.

By Barbara Demick

December 12, 2008

Reporting from Beijing — The signs of discontent are small but unnerving in an authoritarian country where public demonstrations are not permitted.

Laid-off toy company workers smash windows and computers and overturn police cars in Guangdong province. Employees of a liquor company in Harbin travel to their company's Beijing headquarters to demand back wages. Taxi drivers, as many as 20,000 of them, scuffle with police in protests that have spread into seven provinces.

Even the police have gotten into the act. Auxiliary officers surrounded a Communist Party office last week in Hunan province to demand higher wages, said the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy.

As China's economy hits the skids, such protests have been sporadic and usually involved fewer than 100 people. But in recent weeks, they have cropped up across the country like brush fires.

"Definitely, this is the most serious problem we have seen since 1989," said Zhou Xiaozheng, a professor of sociology at People's University in Beijing. "You have millions of college students who can't find jobs. . . . You have migrant workers who have lost their jobs at factories and don't have land to go back to."

It is counterintuitive that a global financial crisis that started with the excesses of Wall Street should be undermining the Chinese Communist Party. But academics such as Zhou believe that the economic crisis could present the leadership with its biggest political challenge since the student protests at Tiananmen Square nearly two decades ago.

To a large extent, China's fiscal problems pale next to those of the United States. The unemployment rate is not expected to top 4.5%, compared with the current 6.5% in the U.S. Although the World Bank recently slashed China's growth forecast for next year to 7.5% from more than 9%, even the lower figure keeps it at the top of the pack.

The problem is that ordinary growth might not be enough for a system that's been sustained by double-digit gains over the last five years. New York University economist Nouriel Roubini predicted last month in a widely quoted newsletter that without 9% to 10% growth, China is headed for a "hard landing."

Security in growth

It is the conventional wisdom that Communist Party rule has survived into the 21st century because of the nation's extraordinary economic growth. China watchers often speak of an implicit bargain between the people and the party: Give up demands for democracy and free speech and we'll make you rich.

"I think the leaders are scared stiff," said Susan Shirk, a professor at UC San Diego. "Certainly the Chinese Communist Party leadership believes there is a connection between economic growth, social stability and the survival of one-party rule."

Even members of the intelligentsia have become more vocal, demanding political change in a petition released this week that was modeled after the 1977 one that challenged the Soviet Union's domination of Czechoslovakia. "In the world, authoritarian systems are approaching the dusk of their endings," says the document, signed by more than 300 prominent people.

What makes the government especially vulnerable is that the people hurting financially have few legitimate outlets to air grievances. Unable to vote out their leaders, strike or collect compensation from the courts, they protest. And when the police wade in, things can quickly turn violent.

That's what happened Nov. 25 after 1,000 workers were laid off from the Kai Da toy factory in Dongguan, a southeastern city often called the real-life Santa's workshop because of the toys manufactured there.

As one former worker, a 36-year-old mechanic who agreed to be quoted by his surname, Zhong, describes it: A group of workers was in discussions with management about termination pay when a dispute broke out. "We saw the police beating five workers with sticks, several of them unconscious. . . . Then many workers rushed out and surrounded them. Later there were thousands of people there. They smashed police cars, doors and computers."

The economic downturn is hitting hardest in places like Dongguan, where factories once churned out toys, shoes and clothing to satisfy the seemingly insatiable demand of American consumers. Now demand has plunged because of the U.S. recession and the scandals over tainted foods and dangerous toys produced in China.

The Chinese government reported Wednesday that last month, for the first time in seven years, exports declined. In the toy industry alone, figures from the General Administration of Customs showed that half of the 3,631 companies had gone under this year.

Almost all of the workers who are losing their jobs are migrants who may not have any place to return to.

Zhong and his wife, who is seven months pregnant, came from an area in Sichuan province that suffered heavy damage during the May earthquake. "We are just wandering around now looking for work," Zhong said.

Fears of instability

This floating population of the unemployed and desperate is one of the government's nightmares.

"The redistribution of wealth through theft and robbery could dramatically increase, and menaces to social stability will grow," Zhou Tianyong, an economist for a government think tank, said in an editorial last week in the China Economic Times.

But it is not only the migrants who can turn unruly.

Young professionals trashed the showroom of a real estate complex called Glamorous City in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, after learning that the developer was offering a 25% discount to prospective buyers of units they had paid full price for.

Middle-class Chinese are relative novices when it comes to investing, unaccustomed to the risks of real estate or the stock market -- and quick to blame the government when what they thought could only go up instead goes down.

The anger was palpable at a Beijing stock brokerage where investors sat on a row of orange plastic chairs, sipping tea from jars they'd brought from home and watching the latest indignities flashing on the electronic board of stock prices.

" Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao did nothing to help," snapped one man in a voice that cut through the background clatter and made the others -- unaccustomed to hearing gripes against China's president and premier spoken so loudly -- turn around to hush him. ("Don't tell the foreigner too much about what's happening in China," hissed a woman sitting behind him.)

The 53-year-old man, who gave his name as Lao Yang, or "old Yang," agreed to lower his voice and the conversation continued. He lost seven years' worth of savings from his job at a machine components factory, which is now closed.

Others with him shared his fury -- retired factory workers, homemakers, a former post office clerk, all had lost large portions of their savings playing the stock market and felt the government had betrayed the laobaixing, the common people, by not protecting them.

"Some people lost everything in the stock market. They sold their homes and borrowed money," said Xiong Huanyong, 66, a retired post office worker. "They think there should have been more regulations."

A basic structural problem in the Chinese economy is that wages and living standards have not kept pace with the extraordinary growth. As a result, consumers aren't prosperous enough to pick up the slack and keep the economy rolling in the face of reduced demand from the United States and Europe.

The Chinese government has lowered interest rates several times, and last month announced a $586-billion stimulus package. More moves are predicted, but economists doubt their effectiveness.

"The government's economic policy is still geared to producing high growth figures, but not to producing jobs or raising people's disposable income," said Mao Yushi, a prominent Chinese economist.

Shirk, of UCSD, believes that protests will accelerate as workers realize such actions can help them get what they want. For example, the laid-off workers at Kai Da received severance of about $900 each after their protest.

But Shirk thinks the government will be able to manage the crisis as long as protests remain localized and the nation's leadership remains united.

"They learned their lesson from the Tiananmen period," she said. "As long as they can prevent public splits, throw the ringleaders of the protests in jail, blame the problems on local officials, they can probably hang together."

Something's going to give in Asia. All has been well for the past 20-30 years, even with Tiananmen, because the Commies Have Delivered. But no more. There's about 1.4 billion pissed off motherfuckers over there, and not nearly enough thugs to hold them off. That country is a powder-keg.

China, India, Pakistan. That area is going to explode. Everyone of those fuckers has NUKES. And don't forget RUSSIA, who will do ALL IN THEIR POWER to foment anti-American sentiment. Or really, PRO-OIL sentiment.

The Bursting Bubble now goes FAR beyond American Housing. RUSSIAN OIL is collapsing. Chinese production capacity is imploding. Pakkie's are terrorizing India. And India is RICH & THEY GOT NUKES. There's going to be a FUCKING WAR.

Plan Folks. Plan. This crazy fucking blog has been beating the drums for TWO YEARS. "BEANS, BULLETS, BOOZE, BULLION". DO NOT for a second think that can't happen. Don't think for 1 second you can't be relegated to GROWING YOUR OWN FOOD. And SHOOTING YOUR FUCKING NEIGHBOR TO KEEP THEM FROM TAKING YOUR SHIT. EVEN WHILE YOU ARE STEALING THEIR SHIT!

The recent local rash of shootings, robberies, and assaults is NOT a statistical oddity. People are getting desperate. Unemployment EXPLODED in Deschutes County over the past year. And it's going to get far, FAR worse. This fucking place will be a war zone before it's over. Instead of reading about someone getting shot, YOU'LL KNOW SOMEONE who Got Shot.

So what's the solution to the Armaggedon Scenario? Actually Armeggedon IS THE SOLUTION. Got too many factories? Too much productive capacity? Too many unemployed?

There's One Very Effective Solution: WAR.

War tears shit up, right quick. War kills motherfuckers who would otherwise be robbing you. War will put people back in Chinese, Indian, and Pakkie factories. At least until they are nuked.

We are going to war soon. What do the RICH WORRY ABOUT? That's right, KEEPING WHAT THEY GOT. And India & China have watched the money pile up over the past few decades, and that shit is threatened now. Don't underestimate the retaliation of a well-funded country.

And what do WE do? Well, if we DO NOT side with China, we're fucking doomed. We OWE THEM $1 TRILLION, at least. In many respects, China runs this 2 bit shithole already. Who will they go after? India? Japan? Fuck, who knows. But it'll be US against THEM. And whoever THEM is, they have been our "Allies" for a long time.

Some whacked shit is going to happen. Government-owned EVERYTHING. Including your house, maybe. A tax-rate hike is coming that'll probably kill another 10-20% of this countries small businesses. And not just Federal. All the way down the line.

Hunker down, Folks. The Big One is coming. War. Depression. Suicide. Remember your 4 B's. Stock Up And Lock Down.

This is Going To Get So Much Worse Than You Thought Possible.

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Anonymous said...

An xmas story by 'bilbo bend baggins'

A short history of cascadia, from a hobbits point of view.

The fundamental premise is that only evil lays outside of the central farthings of cascadia.
This article is largely concerned with Central Oregonians, or Hobbits as we call them in Cascadia.

In the old times there were three kinds of Sapiens that roamed the old earth, Hobbits in Cascadia, Goblins in Mordor { south and east of cascadia }, and Man { sometimes called people } in the old Arab world to the east, and the Asean world to the far-west, both across great oceans. Long ago man ruled the old earth, but he nearly became extinct and thus forgotten until the great oil wars. During the great oil wars the arab men and women of the east were completely wiped out by great diseases created by the Nazgul of Mordor. The people of the far-west { aseans } survived as they did not physically partake of oil wars, only financed them, thus in time they held most of man's paper money which of course was ultimately without value.

Concerning Cascadian-Hobbits, they're gentle creatures more concerned with the earth, .e.g. hiking, biking, generally being outdoors, and near things green that grow from the earth. They love children, micro-brew, and southern-cascadia grown pipe-weed. The simple things in life, they're despised by the Goblins in California/Mordor. The cascadian hobbits love to be outdoors. The goblins love prisons, their homes are like prisons, they build schools like prison's. The prison and killing industry was the basis for their economy.

The goblins south of cascadia they call themselves Californians { Mordorians } are only concerned with themselves, money, and their car- keys. They prefer metal or plastic, and live only for accumulation. They hate the natural earth and crave to cover it all with concrete and/or asphalt. The Mordorian's have completely covered their own native lands with asphalt and such, and they seem only happy when doing so in new lands.

Middle Earth, or should I say cascadia is now past its third age. The dark lord Sauron { Cauron in cascadia } of Mordor long ago forged the one car-key to rule them all, today californians all consider their car keys their 'precious', as the evil of long ago once worshipped the ring of power.

Mordor ( california ) has once again awoken, the californians have erected an Issengard right in Bend Oregon calling it "Franklin Crossings". The hobbits of bend didn't seem to notice change, until the sun was blocked by this new Issengard. This alerted the hobbits of bend, the Bend council long taken over by Goblins, Orcs, and Gollum like creatures spoke of more Issengards in Bend, and of great Mordorian subdivisions in the north called "Juniper Ridge". It is said that the Bilbo of Hobbiton was the first to notice the Issengard {Franklin-Crossing} monument from the Kanes of St. Francis while having a pint, at first it was thought that he had one too many, but in time others saw, and found that he was correct. The cascadian shire of Bend had forever changed.

The Nazgul or in Cascadia we call them the "Mercedes Driving Goblins" are trying to re-unite all the car-keys, they believe in the One Car-Key to rule them all of the old legend. The Mercedes has always been the greatest phallic icon to wealthy Goblins since the darkest times of the third age. When a hobbit see's a mercedes with mordorian plates they are taught as children to run seek shelter. The old legend speaks of Sauron not a goblin or man, but a spirit that oversaw the oil burning machines and all the business associated with its financial system.

To the old people there was the Farthings, there was west, middle, and east, the Hobbit people of Eugene were most west, and the desert dwelling of Hobbits in Bend were the most east. In the second generation after the great war goblins from the south or mordor, e.g. California came to plunder the land. Over the years the word got back to mordor that hobbits in Bend were weak creatures, that could easily be confined to small lots in mordor type subdivisions.

By the third generation, before our times the goblins had taken over Bend { desert cascadia }, and many hobbits you would not recognized they became like the gollum of the old legend. Legend says that Hobbits that adopt Californian and/or Mordorian habits become vile and ugly creatures.

Today the sun shines over hobbit Shire-Bend and many cascadian hobbits see a chance to take the one car-key that rules them all back to california-mordor. In this age it has been become more difficult for those that built Issengard { franklin-crossings }, as the the banks that funded these ventures were they themselves houses of sand. Once all around Issengard was destroyed, the young Goblins of California no longer came to cascadia for there was no hobbit blood to draw, as they're elder's had sucked the land dry. For generations the goblins descended on cascadia like locust in search of gold, oil, and trees, eventually there was nothing left so they moved on.

To the far east across the great ocean's in the east the gobllin's of mordor had turned their attention to pillaging the great arab lands of the old earth the land of man, where the ancient ones are of said to have invented algebra & Law. For long the the goblins of Mordor thought their car-keys were the source of power but they learned in the times that oil, was the source of power, so they destroyed the old world of the Far-East. They killed and killed for generations, in time, the children returning killed thier own, for this is all they knew of life. The returning goblins of the great oil wars killed their own family's upon returning to Mordor. In the end of their times they resorted to eating one another where the strong orc's ate the goblins, and nazgul ate the orc's.

The goblins of Mordor had become sicker and sicker by this third generation having wasted the land of the so called country of california, that which we hobbits call mordor. The Goblins of Mordor in the late third age discovered Oil. The Goblins consumed the oil, and bathed in the oil, and in time became Orc's. Millions of Orc's were bred in Mordor, and they were used for the great oil wars that went on for generations, until at last the oil was gone, and there was nothing left to steal in the arab-lands of the far east.

In thus doing as they struggle to build more Issengard { Franklin Crossing's ...} like monuments in cascadia they could no longer borrow from the people of the far-west, the so called Fourth-Age people {aseans}. During this time the hobbits of Cascadia saw an opportunity to once and for all rid themselves of those that worshipped the car-keys { californians, aka mordorites }.

The hobbits of cascadia banned the goblin-mobile, that foul spelling monstrosity that burns fossil fuels. Soon the Goblins had no means of transportation, as they had long ago lost the means to walk on their own. Generations of long wars of killing for the sake of killing for oil, and land left the Goblins without children, and they became gradually extinct. The Nazgul rules of californian had enacted a children's-service's, so called CSD, where all Goblin children were taken at birth and placed in Military Training Camps. In time the Goblins out of loss, simply quit breeding among themselves. This left only the NazGul to breed the Goblins and Orc's of California or as we call Mordor.

The hobbits of Cascadia tried to teach their young of the old ways of gentle earth loving folk, when the goblins lost their health they created television, that they broadcasted into hobbit homes with the hope of making hobbits love the things that goblins love, but the wise old hobbits simply unplugged the tv's. With the loss of the propaganda machine, the Goblin ideology's became legend.

In the fourth age hobbits reverted to simple life of old, as all the treasure that the goblins of california could take had been taken, but the hobbits still had a little water, some earth, and their love for things green. Hobbits had always known that the simple life was the best life, a completely different outlook on life than that held by the Goblins to the South and East of Cascadia.

The Nazgul leaders of california, unable to borrow wealth from the new age people of the far west { asean new world } wallowed in filth, and became extinct. They could not rape and rob as they had done in the far east { arab old world }, as they're great killing machines had long been destroyed by attrition. The people of the Far-West { aseans } would no longer finance the the great oil wars. In the final act of desperation the NazGul created a great disease which the people of Mordor called "aids", which was a combination of orc-blood from orcs that had leukemia and wild pigs. This concoction was found to be transmitted sexually and released in the Dark Conentinent of Africa far south of the Arab lands of the Great ancient east.

The Nazgul called land where the orc-blood and pigs were harvested "Litton-Bionetics". In time all of the black men, women, and child Africa was wiped out, it is thought that the goblins had intended to settle in Africa having destroyed Mordor and making it un-inhabitable. The so called 'aids' was unleashed in the Arab world, but failed, as they not being promiscious people, thus the nazgul resorted to creating millions of orc's who slaughtered the arab man, woman, and child by hand. Not since the slaughter of the Tasmanians in the second age, had entire population been wiped from the old earth. During the end times the goblins attempted to unleash their aids weapon upon the far-west aseans, but they being a clever people quickly developed an antidote. By these times the goblins of Mordor had become nearly extinct.

Eventually the returning children of Mordor all children who were killing machines, turned on their own familys, bringing an end to Mordor. Eventually the great tribes of far eastern Mordor fought those on the west, .e.g. the two great mordorian tribes of the west-coast and east-coast annihilated one another.

Most recently the surviving Goblins of Mordor have built 'The Shire" near Bend, a monstrosity that is supposed to be like Bree, but is just another Mordor SubDivision of the third age. Only a few homes in "The Shire" have sold, and those only to rich Goblins and a few Gollum like hobbits. Most of these new homes will never be built as the Goblin financial system had collapsed making it impossible to get easy money to build Mordorian structures near Bend. The goblins financed everything with credit, for they never worked, once the great credit systems that were made available by the great Aseans tribes of man in the Far-West quit financing Mordor most Goblins in Cascadia starved to death.

Hobbits prefer to live on a few acres, where they can have animals, and the children can play. The Goblin's preferred little 50by50 concrete lots where the home's actually touched each other, this was thought a way to as the Goblin Leaders { NazGul } could have the goblins keep an eye on each other.

All of the above is distant legend, its important that this legend be passed down. Even though the Mordorians have wiped themselves out, their spirit lives, the times of greed, war, rape, and pillage could return if the young hobbits are not educated. Those that not know their past are destined to repeat.

Hobbits will always prosper, for the Mordorians have nothing, they say our micro-brew and pipe-weed makes us lazy and unfit for war, they say that ours lands being absent of malls makes their lives boring. They say that our dislike of the oil burning horse makes their lives unbearable. We must never again allow Cascadian Hobbit Lands to become like Mordor to the South and East. So long as we're unfit for war, and our lands contain no wealth for Californians we can live in peace. May our lives always move at a slow pace.

Bewert said...

From the Wiki:

What nofollow is not for

The nofollow attribute value is not meant for blocking access to content or preventing content to be indexed by search engines. The proper methods for blocking search engine spiders to access content on a website or for preventing them to include the content of a page in their index are the Robots Exclusion Standard (robots.txt) for blocking access and on-page Meta Elements that are designed to specify on an individual page level what a search engine spider should or should not do with the content of the crawled page.

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There is something else going on. It is really fucking wierd. Put bendbubble2 into google and it gives you feeds from bendblogs, techorati, etc. but not BB2 itself.

Put in bendbubble and it brings up bendbubble and bendbubble3 in the first five, a bunch of references and links to here, but no bendbubble2 in the the first hundred.

Put in bendbubble2 and you get a lot of links of people mentioning it, but not actually bendbubble2 itself.

Buster, it's not the nofollow, because that tells robots not to follow the link from BB2 to where the link goes.

It is truly fucking weird.

Didn't somebody here have friends at Google? You should ask them about this.

tim said...

I've always had a hell of a hard time finding this blog at all. It's been like this for as long as I can remember. You search for this place and all you can find are other blogs that link to this blog.

It's the stealthiest blog ever.

tim said...

>>Didn't somebody here have friends at Google? You should ask them about this.

That's pretty much hopeless. Whether it's Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft, you have to know someone in the right department.

Bewert said...

Somebody who knows a hell of a lot more about water rights should try to put this together:

http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detl?p_be_rsn=1001217&p_srce=BR_INQ&p_print=FALSE

http://www.deschutes.org/index.cfm?objectid=65F1110A-BDBD-57C1-91D726DBA942A9E5&CMD=PICKNAME&DATA=EMMETT+RANCH+LLC*EMMETT+RANCH+LLC&OPTS=TADNSIEC

http://apps2.wrd.state.or.us/apps/wr/wrinfo/wr_query.aspx?SearchType=Name&name_last=&name_company=EMMETT%20RANCH%20LLC&start_priority=&end_priority=&use_category=&wr_type=&view_canceled_rights=False

Bewert said...

Oops, forgot the last one:

http://recordings.deschutes.org/Search.asp

Put EMMETT RANCH LLC in the Last Name field, and you'll find some names that match the water rights query, and the deeds assigning the rights over to them.

Anonymous said...

BULL FUCKING SHIT BP PUSSY

ALL THINGS ARE EQUAL

THE ONLY DIFF BETWEEN BB & BB2 is NO-FOLLOW.

There is NO other difference.

The stealth is because homer is too fucking stupid and lazy to REMOVE the no-follow from his html template.

Even the lazy dumb fucking PUSSY did so, but not the HOMER.

Anonymous said...

Google generally doesn't like duplicate content, but it's not likely that one post being copied by another site will affect your rank. Generally it's good to have people mentioning your posts on their legitimate blogs and linking to you, and not so good if they're just "copy" sites.

"Nofollow" tells Google not to follow that link, so Google doesn't count it as an incoming link of the site being linked to when it figures out the rank of that site.


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No-Follow tells GOOGLE to stay away from the site, and BB2 is FULL of fucking NO-FOLLOW.

Anonymous said...

Nofollow Killed Google Social Graph API 3 Years Ago

Lets face it, I have social profiles all over the web and I am or have been an active participant in tons of conversations on blogs and forums.

3 years ago Google introduced rel="nofollow", very similar to rel="me" , rel="friend" and other XFN and FOAF standards.
Today Google are championing their new API with the slogan "URLs Are People Too"

3 years ago that was true, now URLs on many (most) places where people congregate on the web are no longer "people" because in a supposed attempt to combat comment spam, Google encouraged major sites to use rel="nofollow" making the links null and void.

I did some initial testing with the example tools Google provides, and the results were less than encouraging, because lots of the data they probably need has nofollow links. There is data out there that is usable, but maybe I need to give Google more help.

Anonymous said...

The real issue is WHY does HOMER KUNT NAZI DIPSHIT idiot want BB2 to be NULL&VOID????

The same reason that HOMER leaves BENDECONOMY UP, because RDC,BENDBB is HOMER.

tim said...

Butter will never fix it, so why do we talk about it?

Anonymous said...

I was playing with my dick tonight and I think I broke it.

Anonymous said...

We talk about it for the same reason we remind people that BENDBB logs IP's by just reading his site.

Or that BENDBB has his site configured to log and display all IP's for anyone logged on as admin.

Newbies need to be reminded that BB2 is a trojan-horse.

That BB2 is full of spybots, that BB2 is pissing into the wind for anybody that posts here, as their comments effectively are sent to the NULL BIT BUCKET.

We talk about it because the KUNTS here are BP dumb, and need to be reminded.

Anonymous said...

We talk about it because Dunc's site is ran also just like BB2.

We talk about it because Birds of a Nazi feather flock together.

We talk about it because we can.

Bewert said...

We've all heard about TARP, but how many of you have heard of TALF?

And it's potentially $100B bigger than TARP.

And how weird is it that the Republican's main IT contractor dies in a light plane crash a few days before he was to testify in an Ohio court about manipulating the 2004 vote?

The Bushies play hardball.

Bewert said...

Re: No-Follow tells GOOGLE to stay away from the site, and BB2 is FULL of fucking NO-FOLLOW.

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The thing is is that the nofollow on BB2 tells Google not to follow links FROM BB2 to another site.

It doesn't have a fucking thing to do with Google following a link TO BB2.

And that is what is so fucking weird about BB2 being invisible to Google.

Can you find me one other site that doesn't come up in Google when you enter their name?

tim said...

>>Can you find me one other site that doesn't come up in Google when you enter their name?

That's what I meant by stealthiest ever. It's unnaturally hidden.

tim said...

These find Duncan:

pegasus-dunc

duncan best minimum


But these don't find bendbubble2:

Debating the Bend Oregon Real Estate bubble

bendbubble2

Bewert said...

Downright weird, isn't it?

tim said...

Even creepier, google the whole name:

bendbubble2.blogspot.com

Damn! "Did you mean: bendbubble.blogspot.com"

It finds bendbubble3.blogspot.com.

This is not just no-follow. This is some crazy voodoo mojo shit. Who ever heard of no-follow taking out the url itself?

Bewert said...

I logged into Slashdot and asked if anyone else knows of a site that is not indexed by Google.

http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=2799487

Anonymous said...

You all have done a nice job. You picked up my info on Stevens and his $5 mil but you have been looking at the trees and missing the rest of the forest. More on that in a bit. It is obvious that our dear friends at SAI have been reading along with the rest of us. How do I know? Look at the latest release from SAI and ask yourself why would a smart, wealthy group of people admit to anything on their own website? They are responding to this BB and are trying to gain some limited control of the story so that the spotlight no longer shines upon them. They want you to move on to a new topic. These guys are very clever and have created a matrix of transactions that are nearly impossible to piece together. They are basically in the tax shelter business when you get right down to it. You shelter capital gains so that taxes can be deferred indefinitely.. all perfectly legal. No slander here!
As I was saying.. look at all the entities involved not just the individuals. You look at the RE transactions and it is LLC this with LLC that. There are 3 primary people at the center of this. Two need no introduction but let me introduce the third, Tim Larkin. Well who is Tim Larkin? Tim has been the Director of Operations for Summit. The loyal foot soldier carrying out the orders of Stevens and Neuman. He appears to know almost as much as S&N. You will notice that S&N let him dip into the Inland cookie jar. You may be thinking.. I don't recall seeing his name nestled in with all the LLCs. So to help you further understand who is dealing with whom here is a list of LLCs that are currently active(there are others that now inactive) that have Stevens, Neuman, and/or Larkin participating as other than an agent for the corporation:

BLUE SKY BUILDINGS, LLC
CFALLS INVESTMENTS, LLC
CRESCENT PARTNERS, LLC
DESCHUTES IRRIGATION, LLC
EMMETT RANCH, LLC
GOODE INVESTMENTS, LLC
HUNTER RANCH, LLC
INLAND CAPITAL CORP.
JORDAN CAPITAL, LLC
OASIS ESTATES, LLC
QUINN RIVER RANCH, LLC
SISTERS MHP, LLC
STONE MOUNTAIN INVESTMENTS, LLC
SUMMIT ACCOMMODATORS, INC.
SUMMIT CPA GROUP, LLP

THREE SISTERS DEVELOPMENT CO., INC.
TOUCHSTONE PROPERTIES I, LLC
ASHLEY RANCH LLC

THREE SISTERS DEVELOPMENT CO., INC.
TRAVIS RANCH, LLC
BLUE RIDGE MTN. DEVELOPMENT, L.L.C.
CARPATHIAN MTN. DEVELOPMENT L.L.C.
CENTURY EXCHANGE, INC.
GALVESTON POINT, LLC
HARZ MTN. DEVELOPMENT, L.L.C.
JORDAN RIVER DEVELOPMENT, L.L.C.
KLONDIKE POINT, L.L.C.
MT. RUSSEL DEVELOPMENT, L.L.C.
ODELL PROPERTIES, LLC
POWELL BUTTE INVESTMENTS, L.L.C.
SISTERS MOBILE HOME PARK
VSN PROPERTIES, L.L.C.

Quite an impressive list. Larkin usually make his debut on the RE stage as VSN. Part of the reason I give you this information is so that you can see all the inside trading going on. They slice up a property into pieces with various pieces going to different LLCs and individuals. Then they sell for cash and sometimes for "other consideration" meaning there is no way to know what is going on or what their basis is in the property. By obscuring the basis one can't tell from a tax stand point what capital gains or losses were incurred in a transaction. All perfectly legal mind you, and done everyday all across the country. But if you can't figure it out how does the IRS? Good question. Do you suppose an overworked IRS agent with 100 files on his desk has the time or inclination to even begin to understand what has transpired? Ha! No they usually just take their word...and we have seen what that is worth. Up until now everything I have seen appears legal, unethical yes, but legal nonetheless. And yes many folks are going to lose money when the lawyers finally finish feasting on the dead SAI and Inland Capital. They won't lose all of it because IC now has overvalued property which now will have to be sold in a down and falling market. And as someone quite rightly pointed out some of these pieces of property have 2 and even three mortgages ahead of the mortgage that IC has claim to. If they get 30 cents on the dollar back from SAI they should consider themselves lucky. You step into a situation without doing due diligence on where your money is going....well what do expect?
Now the other reason I give you the list is so that you can go to DIAL and the DCCORSWQ and see that S&N not only will have assets left in their own names when the dust clears but also have assets tucked away in some of these LLCs. And it would appear that none of them can be seized.. they don't call them limited liability corporation for nothing. No, these are some mighty clever folks. They carefully firewalled transactions from one another and from themselves. On a sad note I see that Neuman will have to give up his lovely home in the Highlands at Broken Top. Been up for sale for some time now at 3.7 mil and change IIRC. That is okay Mark, I don't like how it turned out either.
Well I have said enough already. If any of you happen by 1567 SW CHANDLER AVE this week stop in and wish them all a very merry Christmas. It has been a tough year for them what with the economy and all.. and 2009 isn't looking so cheery either. Mark, Brian, Tim.. not to worry, the RE market will come back. It always does.
DT

PS BendBB- for what it is worth I understand your situation and I think you did a fine job. Keep up the good work. Best not to hang someone in the court of public opinion without some good evidence, particularly well heeled and well represented individuals.

Anonymous said...

And now... the rocking Saturday night in Bend Restaurant report.

Try eating at 9:05pm in downtown Bend.

Deep - not serving, but the employees hanging out at the bar. Claimed to only have two tables in two hours. When asked about the rumors tonight was their last night the response was "not tonight." On further probing there are some investors that may be interested in it, but they are open for a couple more weeks.

Ciao Mambo - Not serving. Workers all around the bar drinking, claimed to not have a customer since 7:30.

Marz - kitchen closed, but lots of people still drinking.

Typhoon - actually open, serving, and pleasant.

Back to you Bruce.

Bewert said...

Deschutes County 2008 NOD count as of Friday: 1852

Only six more business days in 2008. Looks like around 1900 for the year. Who has that nice hockey stick graph of annual foreclosure totals?

From RealtyTrac:

"Deschutes County post state’s top rate for October

Deschutes County posted the highest foreclosure rate in Oregon for October, with one in every 267 housing units receiving a foreclosure filing during the month — 2.1 times the state average and 1.7 times the national average. Jackson County posted the second highest foreclosure rate, where one in every 356 housing units received a foreclosure filing — 1.6 times the state average. Multnomah County documented the third highest foreclosure rate, where one in every 404 housing units received a foreclosure filing during the month."

Anonymous said...

Frank Rich on the Bernie Madoff scandal:

There is a moral to be drawn here, and it’s not simply that human nature is unchanging and that there always will be crooks, including those in high places. Nor is it merely that Wall Street regulation has been a joke. Of what we’ve learned about Madoff so far, the most useful lesson can be gleaned from how his smart, well-heeled clients routinely characterized the strategy that generated their remarkably steady profits. As The Wall Street Journal noted, they “often referred to it as a ‘black box.’ ”

In the investment world “black box” is tossed around to refer to a supposedly ingenious financial model that is confidential or incomprehensible or both. Most of us know the “black box” instead as that strongbox full of data that is retrieved (sometimes) after a plane crash to tell the authorities what went wrong. The only problem is that its findings arrive too late to save the crash’s victims. The hope is that the information will instead help prevent the next disaster.

The question in the aftermath of the Madoff calamity is this: Why do we keep ignoring what we learn from the black boxes being retrieved from crash after crash in our economic meltdown? The lesson could not be more elemental. If there’s a mysterious financial model producing miraculous returns, odds are it’s a sham — whether it’s an outright fraud, as it apparently is in Madoff’s case, or nominally legal, as is the case with the Wall Street giants that have fallen this year.

Wall Street’s black boxes contained derivatives created out of whole cloth, deriving their value from often worthless subprime mortgages. The enormity of the gamble went undetected not only by investors but by the big brains at the top of the firms, many of whom either escaped (Merrill Lynch’s E. Stanley O’Neal) or remain in place (Citigroup’s Robert Rubin) after receiving obscene compensation for their illusory short-term profits and long-term ignorance.

Anonymous said...

When I got up this morning (6:45) it was SIX DEGREES at my place. The Minnesotans and Wisconsonians might think this is balmy, but I say it is TOO FUCKING COLD.

And it's another reason why Bend will not make it big-time as a retirement haven. Where do most people choose to live when they retire, if they have a choice? Someplace WARM. Florida, Arizona, California, Hawaii. NOT fucking Minnesota.

All the PR bullshit we can buy about Bend being "paradise" will not change our latitude and our altitude, which means that Bend is and always will be TOO FUCKING COLD.

tim said...

I agree with you on the retirement issue, hbm. I've always said it just takes one fall on driveway ice for an oldster to decide to get the hell out of here.

Anonymous said...

How do I know? Look at the latest release from SAI and ask yourself why would a smart, wealthy group of people admit to anything on their own website?

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I saw that too, I pulled a figure of $100M out of my ass a few days ago on the missing figure, and a few hours later they had a $14M missing figure on the site.

My actual calc was close to $60M, but yes, they must print the 'truth' and the impetus will not come from the Bend media, they must manage falsehoods.

Everyone is silent waiting for the FOOL STORY.

Anonymous said...

If they get 30 cents on the dollar back from SAI they should consider themselves lucky.

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Generous you are, try ten cents.

Anonymous said...

This is not just no-follow. This is some crazy voodoo mojo shit. Who ever heard of no-follow taking out the url itself?

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There are three levels of NO-FOLLOW enabled in HOMERS site,

Anonymous said...

>>Can you find me one other site that doesn't come up in Google when you enter their name?

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It has to do more with their algorithm.

The HOMER STUPID FUCKING KUNT shouldn't do any BLAHn, where n is a number, the google search engine assumes that its somebody trying to spam like IBM1, IBM2, ... only IBM matters just how the search engine works.

Anonymous said...

HOLLERN has way more LLC's than your friends at Summit-1031.

tim said...

Tourism down double digits. Guess what...COVA is "startled."

Yeah, we're the city of the eternally shocked, surprised, and startled.

No one saw it coming.

No one could have seen it coming.

I think everyone's shocked.

Who woulda thunk?

No one predicted this.

We haven't been this surprised since the first time we saw pubic hair.

Anonymous said...

There are THREE levels of NO-FOLLOW HOMER has then all invoked.

I don't care if google can't find 'bendbubble2'.

The issue is find the commment, even homer has said the comments are better than his lame fucking posts.

The reason that this blog has a PROBLEM is that the comments are INVISIBLE, and that is because of HOMERS FUCKING NO-FOLLOW.

The fact that search engines don't see BENDBUBBBLE2 is that the content is always the same the search engines aren't dumb, every fucking week the posts are the same, failure, nation, failure this, failure that, bailout this, stupid this, the google search engine thinks that Bendbubble2 is human created SPAM. That is why BB2 isn't found.

The REAL problem is that the search engines don't index the comments. But they do for BB and BB3.

Anonymous said...

COVA started, it was $498M for ten years, now its $472M, ...

City of Bend pays for COVA visit their sites tons of SHIT, sadly its all lies.

The tourist don't EAT shit, only the people of Bend.

Anonymous said...

Below zero at my place, and now Zero.

Anonymous said...

The Doubts Set In . . .
Shortly after returning to Carlsbad I started looking on the Internet for blogs and news about Bend; wanting to gain familiarity with the local scene, its issues and events. I quickly found the bendbubble2 blog, Jesse Felder's My Back Pages, and the Bend Economy Bulletin Board. Written by folk that seem to know their economics and real estate stuff, all three sources have a high Doom and Gloom content about the future of Bend, at least for the next handful of years.

Had we made a Big Mistake? Would our house shortly end up being worth less than we paid for it? Will Bend turn into a depressing "once was" town, the quality restaurants and shops shuttered due to lack of tourism and HELOC spending money? In answer to the first question, we bought a house for $135 per square foot, well below the westside average, and even if the median home value were to drop another 25%, as some are predicting, we'd be okay. With regard to the second question, I guess the only answer is that time will tell.

But after running the numbers this much became obvious: living here in Carlsbad costs us $1,000 a month more for mortgage, property tax and homeowner's insurance than what we'll be paying in Bend. That alone means that Mrs Elliott and I can work a little less hard, spend a little more time recreating and chilling, and a little less time chasing after the smaller, less-interesting sales and business. Not inconsiderable lifestyle gains.

And Bend has these weather phenomena called "seasons," very little pink stucco, far less traffic (no matter what old Bendites may say, Bend has a long way to go to match coastal SoCal's traffic ugliness, and only 78,000 people. Sure, Carlsbad has about that many people, but it's pressed up against other towns with as many or more people, who are pressed up against other towns with more people. In fact, a fellow has to drive at least 50 miles to find relatively unpopulated areas, and while I like the desert as much as the next guy, the desert, with its crappy little depressed towns gets a little tired. Bend, on the other hand, has a lot more to offer for the guy that appreciates natural beauty.

Bend probably deserves its reputation for whispering sweet nothings into the ears of Californians and seducing them into buying overpriced real estate, then leaving them with nothing more than a headache in the morning. Like Lowell George's Dixie Chicken:

I've seen the bright lights of Memphis
And the Commodore Hotel
And underneath a street lamp
I met a Southern belle

Well, she took me to the river
Where she cast a spell
And in that Southern moonlight
She sang this song so well

Yeah well, we made all the hot spots
My money flowed like wine
And then that low-down Southern whiskey
Began to fog my mind

And I don't remember church bells
Or the money I put down
On the white picket-fence and boardwalk
Of the house at the edge of town

Oh, but boy do I remember
The strain of her refrain
And the nights we spent together
And the way she called my name

Yeah, well it's been a year since she ran away
Guess that guitar player sure could play
She always liked to sing along
She's always handy with a song

Then one night in the lobby
Of the Commodore Hotel
I chanced to meet a bartender
Who said he knew her well

And as he handed me a drink
He began to hum a song
And all the boys there at the bar
Began to sing along

Will Bend be our Dixie Chicken? Frankly, we don't know. This blog will record the ups and downs of our experience in Bend. But before we can move, we need to sell this house.

Anonymous said...

Because of the BB2 no-follow there are no forward-links and back-links and the google search engine thinks that all BB2 is spam, and thus ignores BB2.

This is why if you google 'bendbuble', you find tons of bilbo shit, and bilbo understands the GOOGLE ALOGORITHMS.

You find NO BB2, this is because HOMER wants a honey pot that is invisible to the world, but lets his spybots watch those in Bend that bitch & moan.

Hence HOMER is a bigger fucking BEND-NAZI than BENDBB or RDC.

tim said...

So buster, you hoping for some Christmas miracle where Butter fixes his blog?

Anonymous said...

The NO-FOLLOW appeared in April 2008, and I forced HOMER to remove and he did so for a few months.

He seems to take the same approach as DUNC, which is if the GOD's want it this way, then let it be this way.

The sad thing is that if people 'google' 'bendbubble' all they get is BILBO's rants, and thus think that the bloggers in BEND are nuts, so be it, ... dunc & homer have created their mess by their decision to be invisible.

Why was BB2 flagged as NO-FOLLOW in the first place by DEFAULT?? Back in April 2008, somebody complained to GOOGLE that BB2 was SPAM, and this is how GOOGLE takes care.

Buster don't give a fuck what HOMER does with BB2, buster just doesn't want people to forget that when they piss on this rock, that they're pissing under the 'cone of silence'.

I would like to see all our work product for the years be available to researchers who go back and study the BEND FRAUD. Homer OBVIOUSLY doesn't want this, and so he keeps the SHIT invisible to the outside world by a conscious decision.

Bewert said...

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Look at the comment link code from BB2. Search for post-comment-link in View Source. There is nothing that to prevent crawlers from following it.

Don't see nothing preventing a crawler from following it.

What's striking to me is the difference in results between a Google search and a Yahoo search for bendbubble2.blogspot.com

tim said...

Live Search, like Google, hates bendbubble2. It's sweet that Yahoo! still loves us.

Anonymous said...

And Bend has these weather phenomena called "seasons,"

Well, that isn't altogether a GOOD thing.

Get back to me after you've been through at least 10 Bend winters.

Anonymous said...

Good question and the simple answer is spin. Go back to what I said earlier. This story is being played out on this BB. The response on their website was meant for the readers of this BB. No need to tell the truth on a webpage. The individual who wrote the SAI response merely took what we already knew and repackaged it to put the best light on it. Their aim was not to tell the whole truth but to in effect say..."yeah you caught us, we took the money from SAI put it in ICC and then bought some land but as everyone knows the RE market went to hell.. and well we are sorry we will do the best we can to get people their money back". You know Bend is a small town and these people have to face you at the grocery store, at school, on the ski slopes, etc. They are trying to influence public opinion and also make you, the BB readers, believe that this is the whole story so just drop it and move on.
As you quite correctly point out loans continued well past 2006, Larkin via VSN in 2008. Look closely at the 10 pages of verbiage that make up the 5 mil Trust deeds with Neuman and Stevens. Lot of words there but notice how the phrase "promissory notes executed at various dates". Could have been the week before or 3 years before. Clever wording, neither a lie nor a full accounting of the facts. Not illegal but carefully written to withstand the scrutiny they knew was coming. But even if you had the original notes in hand who could say for certain that they aren't backdated, much like the options scandal that has played out the past few years. One would have to rely on the word of S&N.
The announcement also goes on to say that most of the loans went to the owners of SAI. Again very clever wording but not true. The public record shows that the following were also there for the taking:

Tim Larkin- Dir of Operations at SAI
Lane Lyons via Riley Coyote-Director of Legal and Tax Policy for SAI
Gary Lewis
Bruce and Tracy Lewis
Duane V Mitchell
MARY KATHRYN GULLETTE
Frank & Barb Contino
MICHAEL &Stephanie STUDEBAKER
Ron & Cheryll Cochran
L Todd Haaby- note exceeds 2 million
Gary & Sherry Trasher
Vito & Julie Bartolotta- note exceeds 1 million
James & Rachel McGuire
Sharon Ann Wert

And So Many Others.. have a look for yourself

Remember you can't believe much of what you read on the web.

Anonymous said...

They are trying to influence public opinion and also make you, the BB readers, believe that this is the whole story so just drop it and move on.

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The PUSSY says its time to move on, and quit talking about 1031 stuff.

Back to rubber dams, and bendbb trailer partys.

I completely agree, the people @summit-1031 are leading the debate at bendbb.

Anonymous said...

Blogger tim said...

Live Search, like Google, hates bendbubble2. It's sweet that Yahoo! still loves us.


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APU, normally your not a fucking idiot like the PUSSY who does stupid 24/7 like a badge of fucking courage.

YAHOO doesn't use 'nofollow' cuz they hate google.

Google implemented nofollow to mark spam, its takes conscious work to remove nofollow, the assumption is automated spammers can't modify html-templates on the blogs so the nofollow works for eliminating SPAM.

Given that homer is too fucking DUMB to remove nofollow google assumes he is spam 100%.

Yahoo doesn't use the nofollow because they don't have the nofollow problem.

What is the nofollow problem. Lawsuits, google has something called ad presentation by context, and google got sued $100M because they're were charging people for ad's on spam sites. To eliminate spam, and for google not to post ads and charge people they implemented nofollow, and thus nofollow sites don't get ad's and the people dont' get charged.

YAHOO never had this problem, as they didn't get sued for contextual advertising.

Originally ad's were just 'click' ad's, where you click on an ad, and the advertiser gets a bill.

With contextual ad's, if we talk about "Bruces anus", then up would pop ky-jelly ad's, by context, well that's the theory.

In summary NO-FOLLOW means a site is SPAM, which means that GOOGLE ignores it because they HATE spam, and spam has cost them a ton of money in lawsuits.

It's easy to be not considered SPAM, by taking the initiative to REMOVE all the NOFOLLOW from your html-template in your blog.


Like most things google assumes that only complete fucking idiots, e.g. spammers would remove the nofollow.

Anonymous said...

My interest is piqued because I happen to know people in that list. Those people GOT loans from SAI?

I assume the plan was that these people would repay the loans with interest back into the commingled account. Is that right?

These people may or may not have already paid back the loans, correct? Is there public information about whether they have?

tim said...

I allow myself to be an idiot on Sundays. Otherwise I'd be just too damned all-around awesome.

Bewert said...

I'm still waiting for the FEA director to get back in her office tomorrow. I'm curious what her response is to our questions about scrubbing the FEA website after Dec. 15th.

The way this whole 1031 exchange thing is set up legally, where hundreds of thousands of dollars from RE sales must be handled by a third party with full control and no oversight, is ripe for scamming.

There is going to be quite some reach here.There were lot more than just the principals involved in milking the honeypot.

Anonymous said...

The way this whole 1031 exchange thing is set up legally, where hundreds of thousands of dollars from RE sales must be handled by a third party with full control and no oversight, is ripe for scamming.

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WOW bruce, that's really fucking insightful, sort of tells me you have not even bothered to GOOGLE "1031 exchange fruad", the entire biz is imploding all over the USA for the past +2 years, BEND LAGS the country by +1-1/2 years, always has want to see where BEND is going on 1031, one only has to google '1031 fraud', one doesn't have to tell the FEA that the horse is out of the barn, like I think they knew that.

Besides like the judge ruled in MINN back in 2006, if you put your money in a commingled 1031, you deserve to lose your money.

This is not a revelation.

tim said...

Has anyone checked the local papers of other cities where summit operated? Any coverage of the story at all in those places?

Anonymous said...

http://bendeconomy2.informe.com/forum/national-history-of-1031-fraud-judge-opinion-dt154.html

The above site, lists several articles on HOW TO COMMIT 1031 FRUAD, and walkaway RICH.

Most of these articles were written over 3 years ago, and a lot of these articles are written by leaders in the 1031 world.

The REAL fucking question is, given that BENDS 2,000 realtors were giving 1031 seminars in this town to IDIOTS, why didn't they mention the '1031 fraud option'.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone checked the local papers of other cities where summit operated? Any coverage of the story at all in those places?

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If you go back over this blog, and search for SAI they list all the city's.

It's generally best to focus on BEND, for a really good time read, ...

OW IT STARTS ...

Boulder holding company investigated for fraud
By Howard Pankratz
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 11/24/2008 05:41:48 PM MST

A Boulder company that has gone out of business is being investigated for allegedly defrauding Boulder-area businesses out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, authorities said today.

The company was identified as National 1031 Exchange, 1420 28th St.

According to investigators, the firm and its owner, Debra S. Edwards, provided services to business owners who sold commercial real estate and wished to have sale profits held, tax-free, until they located new property to purchase.

Under the company's contract, Edwards was supposed to return the money when a new property was located, minus a small handling fee, said Sarah Huntley, spokeswoman for the Boulder Police Department.

Huntley said the arrangement has received approval from the Internal Revenue Service.

Edwards said today that nothing illegal happened and that all her clients will be reimbursed by her insurance company.

"Everything is going to be covered," said Edwards. "Everyone is covered; everyone is fully insured."

She said she has three or four clients remaining.

Edwards said National 1031 Exchange went out of business due to economic conditions.

"We have suffered business losses," she said. "The economy is just too horrible to continue. We are not continuing."

The National 1031 Exchange website states: "Thank you for your interest in (the) National 1031 Exchange but we are no longer accepting new clients."

Huntley said police began the investigation late last month after one of Edwards' clients said he had given National 1031 Exchange more than $1.2 million to hold for him while he searched for a new property.

When he found the new property, he claimed that National 1031 Exchange wired him some money but failed to return more than $400,000.

After wrangling with Edwards, Huntley said the businessman was told he'd have to file a demand letter with the company's insurance provider to collect the rest of the money.

On Friday, a second complaint was filed against National 1031 Exchange.

Huntley said that investigators have learned National 1031 Exchange is no longer in business and suspect there may be other victims, including some who believe their money is still being held in trust with the company.

Individuals with information about the company are asked to contact Detective Traci Cravitz at 303-441-3330.

Howard Pankratz: 303-954-1939 or

December 17, 2008 4:10 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOW IT ENDS ...

Publish Date: 12/16/2008

Friends stunned by CPA’s death

By Tony Kindelspire
Longmont Times-Call

LONGMONT — Friends and acquaintances of Debra Edwards say they were stunned to learn of her death early Monday.

Edwards, 53, a well-known Longmont CPA and owner of National 1031 Corp. in Boulder, was wanted on suspicion of felony theft when Longmont police discovered her body in her Longmont office just before 2 a.m. Monday.

Larry Jensen, a founding member of the CPA firm Jensen Burcham Stelmack Karimi LLP, said he had known Edwards for about 15 years, starting when the accounting firm he was a partner in merged with a firm where Edwards worked.

About five years ago, he said, she went to another Longmont firm before launching her own CPA practice last year.

“She had a very good heart, and she was always trying to help people,” Jensen said. “I don’t know what kind of a mess she had got herself into at the exchange firm, but it was really sad.”

Jensen said Edwards came to his home Sunday night and had dinner with him and his wife, Millie.

“I thought she was headed home,” he said. “She was trying to finish up loose ends that she was trying to take care of in anticipation of her surrender. As far as I know, she had arranged to meet her attorney (at the Boulder Police Department on Monday).”

Although he and his wife were friends with Edwards, Jensen said, she didn’t discuss her legal problems in detail on the advice of her attorney.

Jensen said he learned of her death Monday morning from Edwards’ sister, with whom she lived in Berthoud.

Sue Connelly, co-owner of the D-Barn and Rabbit Hill Graphics, said she heard the news the same way.

Connelly said she and Edwards met at a Longmont Area Chamber of Commerce after-hours event about 15 years ago, and Edwards had been doing her taxes ever since.

The two had also become close friends, Connelly said. Last Wednesday, they had lunch at a local restaurant, and Edwards gave her three painted-pony Christmas ornaments, Connelly said.

Connelly said Edwards seemed “ill at ease” Wednesday but determined to work her way out of her legal problems.

The day after the two women had lunch, the Times-Call reported that a warrant had been issued for Edwards’ arrest.

“When the article came out Thursday I called her and told her I still believed in her, and if there was anything I could do for her she could call me and I would help her anytime, anywhere,” Connelly said.

Edwards served as former Longmont Mayor Julia Pirnack’s campaign accountant the three times Pirnack ran for city office, and although the two weren’t close friends, Pirnack said Monday afternoon that she was “concerned and surprised” when she learned of Edwards’ death.

“I thought she had a great amount of integrity and was really a heartfelt person,” Pirnack said.
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Aunt Debi was one of those people who just made you smile. She loved animals and treated everyone with respect and kindness. She was one of a kind and will be greatly missed. My condolences go out to everyone who was close to her, knowing the sadness her passing brings. Kimberly
St. Louis 12/17/2008 9:06:01 AM As a victim in this case, I am shocked and saddened by her death. I have prayed for her and my sympathies and condolences go out to all of her family and friends. I too, knew her to be someone who had offered much of herself to those around her. Hurtful words or rhetoric will bring nothing but more pain. It is time to pray for healing for all those who have been effected by this tragedy and the senseless series of events that lead up to it.
Boulder 12/17/2008 8:29:34 AM ROAD LESS TRAVELED Two roads diverged in a yellow wood And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth Then took the other as just as fair And having perhaps the better claim Because it was grassy and wanted wear Though as for that, the passing there Had worn them really about the same And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet, knowing how way leads onto way I doubted if I should ever come back I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence Two roads diverged in a wood And I took the one less traveled by And that has made all the difference Robert Frost
Westcliffe, Colorado 12/17/2008 2:34:51 AM Debi was a gracious, loyal, and caring woman. My prayers are with her family during this time. She is loved by so many, and I find this incredibly heartbreaking. We love you Debi.
Antibes, France 12/17/2008 12:37:16 AM Yes it seems the mean comments were removed. Good for you Times-Call.
Fenton MO 12/16/2008 4:11:29 PM Did Times-Call remove some of the comments? I don't see anything hurtful being said so some of the comments don't make sense.
12/16/2008 3:40:03 PM I know that anybody who knew Debi knows the truth already, and that is what matters most. She was greatly loved and will be missed terribly. She would never have done anything to hurt anyone or steal from anybody on purpose. If you knew her, you would understand. She was incredibly kind and never had a negative word for anyone. This sort of publicity and public "meanness" must have been impossible for her to bear. I love you, Aunt Debi.
Saint Louis 12/16/2008 3:12:37 PM My sympathies go out to Debi's family and friends. I knew here for a while many years ago, and she seemed like a nice lady.
Longmont 12/16/2008 12:48:07 PM This was my Aunt. I am shocked to hear of this. My mom called her office to ask for her which is how she found out. She was my mom's brother's ex wife and she was just in MO for my sister's wedding in September. We were planning on going on vacation together in MO next summer. My younger sister was planning on visiting her in the next year. I hadn't heard from her in a couple of months and now we can't find anything out about any arrangements as my uncle knows nothing. I'm not sure if she is guilty of the charges but you must understand this was a kind loving woman who wouldn't even talk bad about her own nasty ex. She expressed to us the difficulty in her buisiness with the economy being the way it was. Just let the authorities do their job and stop slamming her please.
Fenton, MO 12/16/2008 12:27:18 PM Debi was a wonderful,giving person. Whatever legal issues she had are suppose to be handled by the legal system, not by speculation or by news media wanting to print sensationalized stories. She deserved her day in court---not rumors and innuendo. As a part of our family, we are shocked and extremely saddened by her passing. We loved you Debi, and we will always believe you to be the caring and giving person who we knew. Our deepest sympathies to her family in Colorado. Michelle
St. Louis 12/16/2008 11:51:38 AM I would like to express my utmost sympathy for Debra's family and friends. She was a lovely, caring human who was loved by numerous people. This tragedy will be felt for a long time.
Berthoud 12/16/2008 10:28:35 AM The idea that we are all innocent until proven guilty applies only in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion. Nevertheless, I find the idea of making political hay out of this unfortunate situation to be crass and vulgar.
Longmont 12/16/2008 10:04:54 AM Supposedly we're all presumed innocent until proven guilty. This woman had family and friends who loved her and are devasted by these events. Before pointing fingers and spewing your ignorant hatred, which you will, please think about them.
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Bewert said...

Re: public info on those loans?

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Go to http://recordings.deschutes.org/search.asp

Enter INLAND CAPITAL CORP in the Last Name field and hit search.

There is at least one record for Brian Stevens under CAPITAL CORP as well, the result of bad data entry or something.

If a Trust Deed is paid off, a Notice of Satisfaction is filed. There are none filed by INLAND CAPITAL.

There are a rather astounding 248 Trust Deeds filed. I'm trying to get a rough total of how much was loaned out now.

Some of those RE cognoscenti moves are pretty interesting--for example loaning one Tod Haaby $2,049,500 on 9/1/06 and then a week later subordinating that loan to a $2,580,000 loan from Columbia River Bank to Haaby. That might be a bit tough to collect on.

Bewert said...

Re: This is not a revelation.

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I expected at least a nod towards real regulation. I was amazed there isn't.

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Bewert said...

Re: ...not a way to influence a search engine rank


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Bewert said...

Re: MEATS BACK ON THE TABLE BOYZ, HOMER HAS A NEW POST.

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Yeah, and it's pretty rich, too.

Anonymous said...

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