I checked Busters (?) assertion that this rel="nofollow" thing exists on my template, and it does. Here is the low down from google (Which OWNS blogspot).
Preventing comment spam
From now on, when Google sees the attribute (rel="nofollow") on hyperlinks, those links won't get any credit when we rank websites in our search results. This isn't a negative vote for the site where the comment was posted; it's just a way to make sure that spammers get no benefit from abusing public areas like blog comments, trackbacks, and referrer lists.
Q: How does a link change? A: Any link that a user can create on your site automatically gets a new "nofollow" attribute. So if a blog spammer previously added a comment like Visit my discount pharmaceuticals site. That comment would be transformed to Visit my discount pharmaceuticals site.
Q: What types of links should get this attribute? A: We encourage you to use the rel="nofollow" attribute anywhere that users can add links by themselves, including within comments, trackbacks, and referrer lists. Comment areas receive the most attention, but securing every location where someone can add a link is the way to keep spammers at bay.
Q: Should I put rel="nofollow" on the link to my comments page? A: Probably not, because lots of interesting discussion can happen there. Also, if other people link to your comments page, a spider can follow that link and find any spam that's lurking on the comments page. The best places to add this attribute are the actual links that other people can create. So on this page, for instance, only the links within comments and the link immediately after "Posted by:" would get the rel="nofollow" attribute.
Q: Do individual bloggers need to do anything? A: Probably not. Updating the software that generates these pages will ensure that most bloggers get these changes automatically.
Q: Is this a blog-only change? A: No. We think any piece of software that allows others to add links to an author's site (including guestbooks, visitor stats, or referrer lists) can use this attribute. We're working primarily with blog software makers for now because blogs are such a common target. Got more questions? Email commentspam at google.com. As we spot more areas where spammers still abuse the Web, we'll contact the appropriate people in order to keep fighting comment spam. Matt Cutts, Google Software Engineer Jason Shellen, Blogger Program Manager
Update: The reaction to nofollow has really been quite positive, especially considering how diverse the web is. We're delighted to announce more support for nofollow:
So there it is. I'm sort of ambivalent about it. I use a lot of links to sites like the Bulletin, or Cascade Business Buttbangers that I frankly DO NOT want to get a Page Rank increase from this blogs inbounds.
But I took out the nofollow's for now, anyway. I figure I can reinstate them if there is a rapid increase in spam.
And even more awesomeness from his High Busterness:
Homer has every fucking kind of spybot in the universe enabled in his code with all the widgets and gadgets he uses
Right now there are over 30 sites in my 'locale' to map all of homers spybots to NULL.
Oh boy. I can only assume he's talking about the little widgets embedded on the right side of the page.
These are little hunks of javascript that provide the craigslist RSS feed, the stock market widget stuff, and that's about it, to my knowledge. But if Buster can provide some sort of idea as to what these 30 "spybots" are, I'll take a look.
I assume he has editted his /etc/hosts (or similar) file to map these "off site" http calls to his local. I suppose that's one option, but I've noticed that when you unplug your net connection, and try to load a page with say, a Yahoo map on it, that it'll grind away forever trying to grab the content.
Anyway, I'm as paranoid as the next guy, and don't want my own data being gathered more than is necessary. But at some point you have to realize that using the Inner Nets at all requires some level of identification.
OK, I take privacy seriously, but enough geeky bullshit.
Things are indeed getting strange in Bend. We knew they would, but The Mob? From Buster:
Re: So that doctor Lynn McDonald killed himself on July 7th,... He was developer #2. First was Doug Sokol in Sisters, and third was Jay Audia. Things are getting ugly. * Real journalism would have a field day on BEND-OR, #1 over-priced RE in the USA, #1 RE-Developer per-capita 'suicide' rate, or death in unusual circumstance's. Well what do you expect the town is RAN by the BOSS-HOGG, the BULL&SORE are RAN by the BOSS-HOGG. In whose interest is any of this? Just sit on it for months or years, and then the Oregonian will revisit it when its long been over.
A more interesting thing would be the insurance angle, especially in these cases of accidental death. Quite often on these BIG RE-POOL deals the mob takes out insurance policy's, in event of loss of money, your-out, and they collect. It's always been the honorable thing to do. It would be interesting if we could find out if DR. SHIRE who accidentally took a swim down Benham Falls, had lots of insurance by third partys??
And from the Shire article:
McDonald and his wife, Jan, had taken full ownership of the project in May with the hope they could sell it, Jan McDonald said Wednesday.
Jan McDonald is trying to sell the 14 developed lots, one house and additional land before the 6-acre property goes to public auction in December, she said.
The family owes Umpqua Bank $3.4 million on the project, according to the default notice.
The notice also names Meyers as a guarantor.
More from Buster:
We have a lot of newbies in the last few days. I completely agree with fresh-blood that the reason is that blog's are few in BEND, and places where people can say their mind are even fewer. Thus folks flock to this rock in the desert, and leave their mark. I have said many a times, that this is a mob town, and people will kill. It is essential for everyones safety to remain anonymous. Suicides will become all too common, and it will even become easier to disguise an act of aggression as an accident. There has NEVER been a better time to be anonymous in Bend.
Now maybe you can see why I start out this piece with some sort of geek-ridden crap about anonymity. Things really are starting to go in a weird direction.
This McDonald guy buys Meyers chunk of the Shire for an unknown amount in May, and not even 2 months later, jumps over Benham falls? Really? That's an awful long distance to cover from doubling up on REd, to committing hari kari, in such a short time.
And Jay Audia shot himself? This is another vulture job in the works that seems to have driven it's principle to his grave awful fast.
I don't know. These may have been perfectly legit suicides with 2 despondent dudes who couldn't bear the thought of going on without getting blowjobs on Volo's upper deck every Friday & Saturday night.
But Buster raises an interesting alternative: These are bank ordered mob hits.
There are people in the World who DO think that when you owe them money, and you don't pay, that your life is forfeit. And it'd be easy to do & get away with:
"Listen, you either pay up, or I will kill your wife, your kids, and everyone you know. And if you say one word, I kill 'em all. Now, you get me that money, or that's it. You either do the right thing, or we will. You savvy?"
Here's the quote from the Bulletins crack team of Investigative Journalists:
The Shire concept originated with Ron Meyers, who sold his share in the development for an unspecified amount to Dr. Lynn B. McDonald — a former emergency room physician at St. Charles Bend. McDonald died July 7.
Wow. So they're doing a piece on foreclosure at The Shire, and the owner DIED.
That's all. He just died, and they fail to mention HOW. Here's an interesting quote from helpfindthemissing.com:
Deschutes County Sheriff's Search and Rescue and U.S. Forest Service crews were scouring the Deschutes River and its banks late Sunday in the area of Benham Falls, southwest of Bend, after a Bend man's bicycle and pickup truck left in the area prompted concern that he might be lost in or near the river.
If they were checking the banks, they should try the refi department.
So this guy DROWN going over Benham Falls. An Emergency Room physician, heads out to LA PINE, gets MIXED UP, and goes over the falls?
Here's some more from The Bulletin piece covering his death:
He owned the Parrell-Sisters Mobile Home Park, which was placed in receivership in May, as well as unsold properties in The Shire subdivision in Bend.
“He was actually getting over some big hurdles in his life,” Stuman said. “The last e-mail I got from him on that subject was last Friday, and it was just kind of like ‘Let’s get the investors paid off, except me, and move on.’”
So he's trying to "move past" this thing & get his ducks in a row, he's got a wife & 16 year old twins, and he... KILLS HIMSELF?
I don't know. That sounds Real Strange. First, jumping off a waterfall is not a guaranteed suicide. A lot of times it's just a severe "hobbling".
And read the article: Doctor's body found below Benham Falls. Look for the word "died". Not there. Look for "suicide". Not there. "Killed", ditto. "Jumped", ditto. "Drown", same.
There's no mention of any sort of CAUSE OF DEATH. He was just FOUND. How was he found, in what state? Well, search for the word "dead", and of course you can't find it. But certainly, he "died", right? Well, you won't find that word in the piece, so possibly he survived.
His body was just FOUND, and there is no mention of him being "dead", or having "died", or having "drown", or having "jumped", or anything else. Fuck, maybe he jumped from an airplane, and his chute didn't open. Hard to say, cuz the Bulletin MAKES NO MENTION OF ANY FACT WITH RESPECT TO THIS MANS DEATH. None whatever. What do they say?Two rescue boats and two divers discovered McDonald’s body under about 10 feet of water, less than one-quarter of a mile upriver from the Slough day-use area, Mills said.
Mills said he had known McDonald since he started working at the St. Charles Bend emergency room and called the doctor a “longtime friend to the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office.”
Officials have no indication how or why McDonald got into the river, Mills said, and an investigation into the circumstances surrounding his death will continue today.
Yeah, investigations will continue, my ass. Yeah, like fucking OJ is going to find Nicole & Ron's killer if he has to work forever. Investigation, my fat ass.
Now, I'm not saying this guy did NOT commit suicide, but this is awful strange. If I wanted to kill some fucker for not paying me back, this would be one of your more obvious routes to go. Drown the bastard, then cram the body UNDER 10 FEET of water.UNDER 10 FEET OF WATER?
I mean, What The Fuck? I thought bodies floated. Right? And how in the fuck did they KNOW TO LOOK were he was, UNDER WATER? That fucking body may have well been on the moon. I don't know, this doesn't add up.
If McDonald can’t sell the development, Umpqua will hold an auction at the Deschutes County Courthouse on Dec. 2, according to the default notice.
Umpqua, citing privacy and pending litigation, declined to comment.
Yeah, I'll bet Umpqua has no comment, cuz they had this guy offed.
It's getting awful strange. Start combing the obits. Audia supposedly shot himself, a crime so easily done by someone else, a 2 year old could have planned it. McDonald's story just doesn't add up at all.
But you won't hear dink from The Bulletin. They won't even use words commonly associated with death or suicide. It's like they won't admit that these people are really dying.
Anyway, be concerned about your privacy. I'm not AT ALL convinced the Audia & McDonald deaths are suicides. There's a LOT of money being lost, and it would not surprise me in the least that deluded RE speculators would approach some seedier types to do a refi, to bridge the financing gap & keep a project alive.
People have started dying over RE in Bend, and you shouldn't just accept the word of the local media, who essentially won't even acknowledge that a death has even occurred.
Would they try to find commenters or, God Forbid, Blog Posters for negative dissemination of opinion? Fuck, who knows. The Bulletin won't even admit people are dead, for the love of Christ. Who the fuck is really running the show over there?
OK, moving on from Obvious Bank-Ordered Mob Hits, marge, The Goddess, posted the following:
July 08 99 Sold @ $284k median
June 08 114 sold @ $315k median
July 07 112 sold @ $342k median
That's a Big Negatory of 17% YoY. You may have noticed that the recent April $270K lows, were only mentioned in "hindsight".
Bend and Redmond home prices jump in May
By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
June 10, 2008
Median home prices in Bend and Redmond rebounded in May to $303,000 and $245,000, respectively, according to the latest report from the Bratton Appraisal Group.
In Bend, May’s median price climbed more than 12 percent from its April level of $270,000, which had been the lowest median....
I would expect the Bulletin to stay true to form, as they did with the murder/suicide of McDonald, and not even acknowledge that the market has resumed its implosion.Folks, it is AUGUST. Remember when I said Things Will Get Better? Well, I said that back in Feb, as Feb is ALWAYS The Bottom of Bends yearly cycle. And of course things DID get better, and even I was surprised by the inanity of the RE comments about how we'd turned the corner, because there'd been an UPTICK IN VOLUME.
Wow. Seriously, how STUPID does local media & their Lackey Ass RE "Experts" think we are? I am always amazed at this. Even marge has indicated that we are DOWN over last month, something rare in the ANALS of local RE history.
Here's more marge goodness:
Here's a new stat.
50 of the 99 sales were vacant while on the market.
514 of the 1600+ active listings are vacant. Yowser!!
4 of the 99 sold broke the $100 ppf.
Interesting that 1/3rd of the total listings are vacant, while a full half of the solds were vacant. Conclusion? VACATE your house if you want to sell.
I know. Just kidding. But for a comparison of where Bend is with respect to the rest of the US in regards to vacancies, I found this:
Yes, Bend is different. We have 33% vacancies, while the rest of the US endures the HORRORS of vacancy rates BELOW 3%.
I got this graph from seekingalpha.com, and they talk about working off the excesses of the boom, normalizing vacancy rates, and the like.
But they fail to acknowledge what I feel is the big BINARY SWITCH that has occurred: People have LOST THEIR CREDIT RATINGS.
This is The Thing we cannot UNDO. THIS is the demand killer. This is why the housing market has, for the foreseeable future, changed WHOLESALE from "where it was" pre-bubble.
There are MILLIONS, and there will be many MILLIONS MORE, who will simply be unable to purchase a home in the foreseeable future (10 years), because their FICO has gone bye-bye. Trying to sell to these people is like pushing on a string; no amount of price lowering will really "induce" these people into buying, they can't.
We're entering into a Serfdom economy. The Landed Set, and the Vast Rabble who rents forever. This will affect MILLIONS, many more than it does today. THIS is why housing will probably NOT return to normalcy in any relevant time period. This is why ANY purchase that could require a loan (car, appliance, etc) will not return to normal anytime soon.
We've crossed over into a state we haven't seen since The Great Depression. From Timmy:
So that means 10 months of vacant inventory and 33 months of occupied inventory.
I'm guessing the occupied houses are priced way too high.
From what I've seen lately, houses at $400k should be at $300k. Houses at $600k should be at $400k.
That's roughly speaking. Individual cases vary.
I'm seeing stuff bought at $290k in 2006 being priced at $400k. Get real, people. Or you won't sell.
This looks about right. Especially the last line.
Bend is different. Classic. Homes that are occupied ARE NOT SELLING. Fucking Classic! This is a perfect insight into the Psyche of Bend: Bendites Are Completely Deluded About Their Own Importance & Self Worth.
People still here can't sell to save their lives, people who've accepted their mortality & have moved out, actually are selling. Or maybe it's the banks REO that's selling.
What's truly awesome is that The Bulletin is shielding us from the Truth; Nobody Dies In Bend... they're just "found". Yeah! Finding someone is a Happy Event! Nothing ever goes wrong in Bend! From The Shire piece:
“It was Ron’s concept, and it was a good one,” Jan McDonald said. “Had the market not gone to where it went, it had the potential to be successful.”
The project — whose features include unique stonework, artificial thatched roofs, terraced gardens and a network of streams and ponds with a pathway leading to what’s called “The Ring Bearer’s Court” — captured media attention outside Central Oregon, including a December 2006 feature on BBC Radio.
The development drew about 6,000 visitors over two weekends in summer 2006 at the Central Oregon Builders Association’s Tour of Homes and has continued to attract curious onlookers, Meyers said.
Meyers and McDonald drew up a set of rules — similar to codes, covenants and restrictions that govern rules in many subdivisions — and called them the “Declaration of Interdependence.”
“We wanted to create a community — not just another subdivision,” Meyers said.
The Bulletin is STILL SELLING THE PROJECT."Not just another subdivision".
"It was Ron's concept, and it was a good one".
"The development drew 6,000 visitors".
Somebody's DEAD, and The Bulletin is concerned about RESELLING THE THING. Always New Money. Gotta Get The Money. We Need New Investors.
That? Oh, that's nothing. That's just the burial of the last guy who owned this project. We're not sure what happened. He was found. That's all we know.
Now let's sign these papers. One last question: Are you dying for this project to succeed?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 305 of 305 Newer› Newest»Perhaps you all don't understand, but BEND spent almost all of its treasure the last ten years on PR&MARKETING the city to the world.
When I say BEND, I'm talking taxpayer debt.
I think thats the reason its easy now for civic leaders to defer SDC's, everybody knows that Bend is going bankrupt, and now its time to pour on the debt, because its all going to default, so we must party on like a 'bush surge', for tomorrow we all die.
Privatize the Profit ( yesterday ), socialize the Pain loss ( tomorrow ).
Why is Bend special? Why are we exceptional??
1) Awbrey BUTT Sheet Lady ( hollern REHO )
2) Hobbit Developer Dude ( SHIRE=DEADZONE )
3) Pregnant Man ( lesbian with beard )
4) Balloon Chair Guy ( helium in condoms )
5) Two bloggers who share penis
6) 140-Pound Tumor Woman
7) Prineville Deer Fucker.
8) Sighting of ET in UFO in Sunriver.
9) The pussy sends 100,000 page 'complaint' to city-hall.
10) BULL says 'best time to buy RE in 20 years'
11) Bend 'inventor' drags tire up-hill, hooks up generator and runs tire downhill, to make 'perpetual free energy', BULL ignores the UPHILL part.
12.) City of Bend gives tens of Million of dollars to an out of town hustler name KURATEK, because of his influential k-mart suit.
13.) All money lost by Hollern & Bauhofer is repaid by the Bend city taxpayer.
14.) Bend the City becomes bankrupt but nobody even notices or cares.
Then there is the 'grand delusions and madness of the city' where some 99% believe in perpetual-motion-machines, perpetual-money-trees, and perpetual-housing-development schemes.
There truly is something about Bend that seems to attract people who are so determined to be "optimistic" and "positive" that they become delusional. They are simply unwilling, or maybe unable, to look at the downside or potential downside of things. And if you are so rude as to point out the downside to them they'll say you're "negative" in the same tone they might use to say you're a psychotic serial killer.
Optimism is fine, but delusional optimism fucks up you and everybody around you. In the case of Bend it has fucked up a whole city.
What was the latest figure on homes on acreage sales and inventory, Marge? Don't we have like a 4 year supply of those?
Yeah about 4 years, we sold 18 in July.
Opps...10 sold and 378 active. Only 37.8 months
The median price was $405k down from a year ago of $500k Down from peak of $592,000. Resi on acreage now on sale.
Optimism is fine, but delusional optimism fucks up you and everybody around you.
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Optimism in Bend "KILLS", pure & simple.
In a few years Bend will have its own Cemetery Drive called 'The street of broken dreams"
Yes, the optimists don't want to listen, but when old reality bitch slaps them in the face, they can always jump off the cliff at Benham Falls, or blow their brains out.
Physician's Death Might Have Been Suicide
July 8, 2008
Dr. Lynn Barton McDonald, a longtime Bend physician whose body was pulled from the Deschutes River on Monday, might have been an indirect casualty of the Bend real estate boom and bust.
Ethan Lindsey reported on OPB news yesterday that the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Department is investigating the possibility that McDonald’s death was a suicide.
“McDonald was known to be in financial trouble,” Lindsey reported. “He owned several unsold properties in Bend's wilting housing market and he was close to losing a mobile home park he owned.
“Deschutes County Sheriff Larry Blanton says foul play is not suspected, but investigators’ work continues.”
“We may never know what happened up there that night and what happened for him to be in the water, to succumb to the situation in the water there,” Blanton said. “We may never know what exactly happened there.”
In addition to the mobile home park on Parrell Road, which was placed in receivership in May, McDonald had invested in The Shire, another residential development in the same area with a Lord of the Rings theme.
McDonald, 58, had been an emergency room physician at St. Charles Medical Center for almost 30 years. He went missing last weekend, and divers found his body in the Deschutes below Benham Falls Monday evening. Memorial services are planned for Friday and Sunday. For information call St. Charles at 541-382-4321.
I wonder how many of them actually read it, all 27 pages It leaves open a huge loophole on Paragraph 2.5: "Compensation to JRP on Land Sales to Others. Should the City...sell...a portion of the Property to any third party,...the City shall pay to JRP an amount equal to 6% the gross purchase price...shall be a line item on the Title Company closing statement, and shall be paid directly to JRP through the Title Company...The Parties may also agree from time to time to execute a Letter of Interest for additional transactions on Juniper Ridge land outside of the Property, under the same terms and conditions of this Agreement."
The JRP perpetual money machine.
And of course there is no map or legal description of the property, just placeholder pages. I'll delve into it more at juniper-ridge-info.blogspot.com.
Buster, at least Knife River produces something. JRP is hot air.
So OPB used the word "suicide." In the Bulletin story about the Shire he just "died."
In the Bulletin story about the Shire he just "died."
What's awesome, is they never use the word DIED in the Bulletin story about him DYING. Here is the link
He was "found".
Never any bad news... always good.
Buster, at least Knife River produces something. JRP is hot air.
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BULL FUCKING SHIT BRUCE-PUSSY.
KNIFE-RIVER MOVES ROCK AROUND.
FOR $800k/acre, at city fucking expense.
ALL CUNTS NOTICE HERE THAT BP hates KURATEK who gets chicken-feed for wearing the k-mart suit, but defends Knife-River for scamming Billions of dollars from the Bend taxpayer for moving rock around.
The pussy always talks about how the city gets $7/sq-ft for JR, but always fails to mention that in order to SELL that land at that price, must pay Knife-River $13/sq-ft to make the ROCK 'shovel-ready'.
Thus every acre of JR the city sell's they NET-LOSE $13/sq-ft, fucking EINSTEINS.
I like the Medford/Klamath Falls area-I would love to be an Almond farmer or an Olive farmer- seriously, I would. The geography reminds one of Italy. Why didn't that area explode?
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Some times you people ask naive questions. The reason that Italy is NOT like Oregon, because in Italy there are strict laws that say "NO NEW HOUSES", No architecture that isn't 14th century.
They realized at least in Tuscany that tourism was their future, and they work hard to maintain the pastoral perfection of the farmland, and its rural sitting. For instance in Tuscany 'private pools' are banned, but free-standing pools are ok, it is illegal to cut a tree down,
In Central Oregon anything goes, in Tuscany at least since WWII the government is communist. In Central Oregon the government is the builder/developer Party.
Well, as I was born & grew up in the Medford area before ending up here, I can tell you that the Rouge Valley is as much as a clusterfuck as it is here....It did explode down ther on a slightly less moronic level....
Pehaps the tiny base of loggers left in the outskirts kept it from getting too crazy ( I.E. Butte Falls , Prospect, basically the valleys foothills)
Dottiebug
Yes I am too lazy to find out what my blogger account info is.......
Buster, at least Knife River produces something. JRP is hot air.
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All of BEND is "HOT AIR".
But Knife-River is getting BILLIONS of DOLLARS of solid tax-payer cash, in order to 'develop' Juniper-Ridge, its solid rock out there.
This is why county sold JR to Bend for $1 in 1992, because it had NO fucking value, because everybody knew it would cost more to excavate than the land was worth.
ONLY a fucking IDIOT pussy believes that giving Knife-River BILLIONS of DOLLARS of tax-payer debt in return for a handful of tire-flipping jobs is a rational decision.
In regards to JRP, at least KURATEK was smart enough to come into this town, and put something together and ram it through, everything else went no-where. Kuratek teamed with Garzini is a steam-roller, but then you would expect out city-hall to cower in the presence of real-men.
Long after the current city-hall is gone, and/or recalled; KURATEK & GARZini will still be running the show.
BP your wasting your time kissing the ASS of the elected, do some KURATEK ass kissing, perhaps he'll mandate in the next JR contract a mandatory CAPSTONE-BUTTPLUG purchase.
In Bend anything is possible.
JR
1.) HOLLERN owns the land around JR, it becomes MORE valuable if JR is made valuable. INVESTMENT in future.
2.) Knife-River needs work, needs work forever in order to justify the purchase from Hap-Taylor, thus HT setup the perpetual excavation program out in JR, work forever. BP calls this 'useful work', yes moving rock around, very useful.
I think it's what rdc says "laying the foundation for future growth" and getting big enough to get noticed on a national scene. It seems there is a core group of people who are determined to forever make Bend a BIG place -- determined to never again let it be small, halfway 'almost there'. It's BIG or nothing.
I think it's what rdc says "laying the foundation for future growth" and getting big enough to get noticed on a national scene. It
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RDC ain't even a cunt, he's shit eating fuckhead. He's right up there with BENDBB.
Anybody notice how fucking dead BendBB's website is these days? I mean 90% of the posting's ain't even of Bend.
RDC, he's always the alter-ego of Dunc, I mean Ned Flanders. A year ago he was the lonely protector of all the forces of good, .e.g. BULL&SORE.
Today, now that even the dead builders know that BEND RE is over, RDC suddenly sees the light, and what does he say? Big or Nothing.
BULLSHIT, it's Bankrupt or Nothing.
No matter HOW BIG the Bend Bankruptcy is even if its ORANGE-COUNTY BIG, nobody will fucking care, because Bend is in the middle of no-where.
This is the problem with Bend, all the cunt's support city-hall, cuz they know that the city folk are doing the best they can to bring the bubble-back. Trouble is the bubble ain't coming back, even if taxpayer money PAY's HOLLERN & BAUHOFER to build homes, they're still going to rot in the desert.
RDC likes to perpetuate the trickle down theory, that if we take on a ton of debt, and pass all that debt in the form of CASH, it will trickle down to all of us. Hell, why not just have the city of Bend send out $1,000 checks to all of us forever? Are we not the perpetual-money-tree town?
halfway 'almost there'. It's BIG or nothing.
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Let's look at this logic carefully. In the past ten years, the way we brought them in was city money for PR&MARKETING, and SORE promoting event's and the BULL spreading BULL about Bend exceptionalism. That is how we made bend BIG.
Now the solution is to DUMP a ton of money in the form of SDC loan's on HOLLERN&BAUHOFER. That ain't what brings them in folk.
What your seeing is a HOLLERN&BAUHOFER rescue program, but that ain't going to bring in the CALI's.
If you want to make this place BIG, you got to SPEND all the taxpayer net-worth/equity on PR&MARKETING!!!!
It's just fucking crazy. We hand out money to HOLLERN&BAUHOFER so they can build more STD's, and folks think that is going to put Bend on the map!!!
Ok, maybe its a PR&MARKETING scam, somebody will pick up the news, that BEND is subsidizing builders, and other builders will come and build, ... but that still doesn't solve the buyer problem.
And don't tell me cheap, affordable, disposable homes are going to sell, cuz if that were true, then Jay Audia would not have blown his brains out.
HOLLERN&BAUHOFER are going BK, and this city will do all it can to protect their fucking ARSE, and that ain't going to make Bend big, or put it on the map.
Theres an effort by someone to call a bottom on the BEBB. Someone trying to say inventory is shrinking in Sacramento, or Las Vegas, and we must be near the end.
No one is calling bullshit on that.
If we have to go to where Stockton and LasVegas and Naples went, we've got a long long way to fall.
Calling a bottom in that shitstorm is like saying Tokyo was on it's way up in 1946.
Theres an effort by someone to call a bottom on the BEBB.
Hell, let 'em buy. Be my guest.
I figure there's less a need to call bullshit on stuff anymore... that national news is doing it 24/7.
From BendBB. Really unbelievable the lack of scruples that Don Bau-humper has. He is a motherfucking scumbag liar, and if you EVER do business with that fucking piece of shit you deserve what you get.
By Bob Albrecht / The Bulletin
Published: August 07. 2008 4:00AM PST
Three homeowners are suing Bend-based Pennbrook Homes Inc. and Highland Park Investors LLC for defaulting on lease payments on four different properties, according to three lawsuits filed last month in Deschutes County Circuit Court.
The suits allege the companies defaulted on more than six months of payments in lease-back agreements. In a lease-back agreement, a builder sells a property and then agrees to pay monthly rent on the property to the buyer for an agreed upon period of time — in these cases, two years.
Highland Park Investors, whose sole investor is Pennbrook Homes, is being sued for $135,691 in unpaid rent, late fees and interest on four properties, according to the suits.
Pennbrook Homes developed the Highland Park subdivision in Eagle Crest Resort outside Redmond. All the properties in the suits are in the subdivision.
“We had a lease-back program on our project out at Eagle Crest,” said Pennbrook founder Don Bauhofer. “With the downturn in the market, the company just ran out of money.”
Nevada investor Chad Osorno purchased two homes from Pennbrook in January and February 2007.
He entered into a lease-back agreement with Highland Investors in February, according to his suit.
The companies stopped paying the $3,279 per month rent in November, Osorno’s suit says, and he’s seeking $69,158 in rent, late fees and interest.
Brian Wilber and Wes Wright are seeking $34,579 and $31,954, respectively, also saying in their suits that the company stopped paying rent in November 2007 on similar agreements. Wilber and Wright both live in Central Oregon.
“Lease-backs are quite common in business,” Osorno said. “Basically, you acquire a property as an investor and you have an agreement from the tenant to make payments.”
Osorno, who lives in Reno, said he would not have purchased the homes without plans to lease them back to the builder.
“I own two properties there, great properties there, but unfortunately, the parties in this complaint have not followed through on the commitment,” he added.
Ed Fitch, an attorney with Bryant, Emerson & Fitch of Redmond, is representing the buyers in all three cases.
“It’s one tool by which builders were able to get rid of inventory,” Fitch said of lease-backs.
All three lease-back agreements included provisions that would have allowed Highland Investors and Pennbrook Homes to purchase the properties at the end of the two-year contract.
But Bauhofer said the agreements ceased to make sense as the homes’ values dropped from more than $550,000 to less than $400,000. The companies, out of money, stopped making payments, Bauhofer said.
“The homes that they own are worth maybe what the debt is on them, maybe less,” Bauhofer said. “I think that is what’s causing so much angst in the marketplace.”
Highland Investors has stopped making investments, and Pennbrook Homes has stopped building, Bauhofer said.
The lease-backs were devised to take pressure off banks, who were financing a significant number of homes during the real estate boom, Bauhofer said. To generate sales, after homebuyers backed out of presale agreements, Pennbrook offered lease-backs.
For Pennbrook and other builders, the market plummeted “when financing became more difficult and a lot of those buyers had to pull out of the market, and that precipitated an inventory glut,” Bauhofer said. “The builders were left with a substantial number of units that had been built on presale.”
Bauhofer said the lawsuits will either be resolved through the courts or out-of-court settlements.
He said other Pennbrook companies, including Arrowood Development, remain active. Bauhofer said he and other investors never expected the market’s bottom to fall out.
“It’s a really unfortunate byproduct of the market,” Bauhofer said. “You don’t make an investment believing the value is going to go down.”
The below is from US&NEWS&WORLD-REPORT it will be in next weeks print issue, so say the editors, ...
Many people have committed suicide relating to this development.
Here in Oregon, we call "The Shire", the Dead-Zone.
Virtually every developer involved has met a strange death, usually ruled suicide.
bendbubble2.blogspot.com
In the past 30 days, Bend has lost four of its most prominent Developers to suicide.
Bilbo Bend of OR
Aug 06, 2008 17:56:31 PM [permalink] [report comment]
Mordor
Sounds like Sauron lives there.
Bendbubble blog will also give you the heebiejeebies. He/she takes conspiracy theories to a whole different level. Banks, hitmen and life insurance in a small town. Read it for the entertainment value.
Not a good place if you are a wannabe developer or private equity to burn.
Notlivinintheshire of OR
Aug 07, 2008 02:10:34 AM [permalink] [report comment]
Hobbit Crisis
Why is there a problem? The American way is to turn this property over to HUD to guarantee low income housing for sub-prime borrowers. Speculators and foreign investments will follow the deflated dollar and our third world economy will benefit from the sale of real estate the same as it has from the sale of industries.
Morton Kurzweil of FL
Aug 07, 2008 15:05:42 PM [permalink] [report comment]
If you 'google'
"shire hobbit suicide"
This site is now #1.
That didn't take long!
Theres an effort by someone to call a bottom on the BEBB. Someone trying to say inventory is shrinking in Sacramento, or Las Vegas, and we must be near the end.
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Dunckel-Wiesen, we don't agree on much, but me knows we do agree, that whatever happens nationally, it takes another two years to happen Bend.
So what the fuck, Atlanta, GA as I have pointed out hit bottom almost 1-1/2 years ago. So fucking what.
The debate is about Bend, and bottom is still on target for 2012, and then its going to take six long years just to climb out of the hole to medians.
Every fucking day in this town, a realtor is calling the bottom, or saying next quarter.
Even BEM say's 2009, but that all depends on what O-BOMB-A does, BEND is seriously over-sold. It's going to take a long fucking time to fix Bend, and why would anyone care.
Do you cunts really think that anyone cares??
“It’s a really unfortunate byproduct of the market,” Bauhofer said. “You don’t make an investment believing the value is going to go down.”
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What the fuck? This tier two RE promoter & con of BEND, SOLD virtually all his high-desert crap a few years ago.
It it comforting to tell all the dead tier three investors, that nobody intended it to end this way?
That said, Tier One folk like Hollern, and JD-GRAY, Bill Smith, Homer-Williams are looking real good.
It's the fucking Teir-Three, the guy that bought the BT-golf from Bauhofer, ... and all the guys that committed suicide by buying unsaleable projects from the likes of tier-two RE salesmen, ...
"It's really fucking unfortunate, the product of the Bend Bubble Real Estate speculation is suicide, & self pity"
The BULL can pick on TIER-2 and TIER-3, but you'll not see them rub salt into the wound's of TIER-1 boss-hoggs.
Homer,
History is essential to understanding Bend.
That's why I always go back to the last cycle ( late 1980's ).
A lot of RE pools were setup, and a lot of money was lost, just like now that was lost by MacDonald, & Audia, stupid shit.
The 'mob-bank' money that gives lucky-dan's, or fancy dan's the money to invest, is usually told, this is a 'golden boy', he's connected, and they let them burn the money, hand's-off, then they go do stupid shit like 'purchase the shire', and that's when you start seeing the tire-necklaces ( burning a tire around someone's head ).
During the last cycle, guys exactly like this cycle, got millions of dollars, from 'dark sources', and the money was fucking lost. Most all of these people simply died over the ensuing few years.
This cycle is no different, everything is progressing exactly the same.
I think that's why I inherently like Kuratek, or the GARZini, they don't seem to putting their john-hancock or ARSE on the line. They just collect 'finders fees'. Its quite brilliant and quite safe.
Me history lesson is those that took the 'dark' bank-money will expire 90% in the next five years, and KURATEK(JRP) will be sitting pretty for years to come.
In Bend we operate on 20+ year cycles of over-selling worthless desert swamp-lands to cali's, it seems that amnesia is generational. Every cycle is exactly the same.
O.K.
Starting over. (That's me who deleted all the comments.)
First off, Paul-do, you might want to know that HBM has covered you in his blog.
Secondly, that someone has tried to out your identity in the Bend Economy Bulletin board.
They feel you've been insensitive to the Jay Audia family.
Which is pretty undeniable.
On the other hand, real estate became big news in this town, and I'm on record as saying I thought the local media should have covered some of the more downbeat elements of this boom/bust.
I also believe it isn't right to try to reveal someone's identity, just because you don't like what he wrote. The whole blogosphere will become a much less interesting place if it all becomes whitewashed.
Would I have written Paul-do's post? No.
But I don't have to read it if I don't like it.
Homer, you got haters on BendBB's board outing you...
"This is too late to help the Audia family, but hopefully it will stop or slow future publication of such deplorable fabricated stories."
Oops, sorry for stepping on Dunc's post--didn't see it until the window refreshed.
My own feeling has always been that one day or another you always will be outed. So why not just step up to the plate in the first place?
Homer,
Whatever you figure out to write about for our Sunday Am feature story, I am pissed at the outing. Whom ever that is/was is a bigger jerk than thou. OK, you have less than having warm fuzzies about the deceased and you make up BS on occasion. You still don't deserve to be outed. Don't think I'll stop by your address anytime soon.
I hear all bets are off we are,as of today, not in a credit crunch since oil and gold dove into the tank. So we have nothing more to worry about, right? Not!!!
I had an affair with John Edwards before the cougar."First"
It's cool...Buster and I have a cooler full, way more hollow tips than you can imagine and we're parked down the street with a clean line of site. Fuckin Buster prefers sniper fire while I'd prefer to get close with the sawed off. No matter, we gotcha covered. Fucking idiots ain't hard to spot.
LB--post of the week.
Buster always liked the shadows.
excerpt from The NY Times:
August 9, 2008
Housing Program Moves Poor to the Suburbs, and Tensions Follow
By SOLOMON MOORE
ANTIOCH, Calif. — From the tough streets of Oakland, where so many of Alice Payne’s relatives and friends had been shot to death, the newspaper advertisement for a federally assisted rental property in this Northern California suburb was like a bridge across the River Jordan.
Ms. Payne, a 42-year-old African-American mother of five, moved to Antioch in 2006. With the local real estate market slowing and a housing voucher covering two-thirds of the rent, she found she could afford a large, new home, with a pool, for $2,200 a month.
But old problems persisted. When her estranged husband was arrested, the local housing authority tried to cut off her subsidy, citing disturbances at her house. Then the police threatened to prosecute her landlord for any criminal activity or public nuisances caused by the family. The landlord forced the Paynes to leave when their lease was up.
Under the Section 8 federal housing voucher program, thousands of poor, urban and often African-American residents have left hardscrabble neighborhoods in the nation’s largest cities and resettled in the suburbs.
Law enforcement experts and housing researchers argue that rising crime rates follow Section 8 recipients to their new homes, while other experts discount any direct link. But there is little doubt that cultural shock waves have followed the migration. Social and racial tensions between newcomers and their neighbors have increased, forcing suburban communities like Antioch to re-evaluate their civic identities along with their methods of dealing with the new residents.
The foreclosure crisis gnawing away at overbuilt suburbs has accelerated that migration, and the problems. Antioch is one of many suburbs in the midst of a full-blown mortgage meltdown that has seen property owners seeking out low-income renters to fill vacant homes. The most recent Contra Costa County records available show that from 2003 to 2005, the number of Section 8 households in Antioch grew by 50 percent, to about 1,500 from 1,000. Many new residents are African-American; Antioch’s black population has grown to about 20 percent, from 3 percent in 1990.
. . .
Sociologists have long claimed that leaving behind high-crime, low-employment neighborhoods for the middle-class suburbs buoys the fortunes of impoverished tenants. An article in the July/August edition of The Atlantic Monthly, however, cited findings by researchers at the University of Memphis that crime in Memphis appeared to migrate with voucher recipients. More broadly, a 2006 Georgia Institute of Technology study found that every time a neighborhood experienced three foreclosures per 100 owner-occupied properties in a year, violent crime increased by approximately 7 percent.
As Antioch’s population grew to 101,000 in 2005, from 73,386 in 1995, the city built about 4,000 housing units in the early years of this decade.
Now it has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the state, with about 23 of every 1,000 homeowners losing their homes as of June, according to DataQuick, a real estate information clearinghouse.
While total crime in Antioch declined by 15 percent in the first three months of this year, compared to the same period in 2007, violent crime increased by about 16 percent, according to city statistics. Robberies and assaults accounted for most of that rise.
In an incident report filed with the Antioch Police Department, Natalie and Darin Rouse complained of constant problems with gang members’ blaring car stereos and under-age drinking on the street. In a written account, they blamed “gross community overdevelopment, affirmative action loopholes and incompetent state government management of federal affordable housing programs” for the problems.
Several white women, all professionals who attend the same church and have lived in Antioch for 12 years or more, recently sat outside a Starbucks coffee shop and discussed how their declining home equity had trapped them in a city they no longer recognize.
“My father got held up at gunpoint while he was renting a car to a young African-American man,” said Rebecca Gustafson, 35, who owns a graphics and Web design company with her husband. Ms. Gustafson said her car had also been broken into three times before being stolen from her driveway.
Laura Reynolds, 36, an emergency room nurse, said that she often came home to her Country Hills development tract after working a late-shift to find young black teenagers strolling through her neighborhood.
“I know it sounds horrible, but they’re scary. I’m sorry,” said Ms. Reynolds, who like her two friends said she was conflicted about her newfound fear of black youths. “Sometimes I question myself, and I think, Would I feel this way if they were Mexican or white?”
What's awesome, is they never use the word DIED in the Bulletin story about him DYING.
If they pull somebody's lifeless body out of the water, do we really have to be told he was DEAD?
I still want the pussy to get all the autopsy reports, they can tell by the water in the lungs whether they drowned, or died before 'falling' into the water.
They can also tell exactly when the died by measuring internal temperature.
Move the poor to the suburbs, Build cheap housing in Bend and move Cali's poor to the new 'Australia', we call Bend-Outback.
Move the poor from urban blight, to suburban blight, and create more crime in suburbia, which means more prisons, and more cop jobs.
GARZini must be in peak arousal mode.
Pussy, below is the JR principals, this is what you need to compare what they're doing now, with what the original 'liberal-pussy' mission statement is/was, versus todays 'conservative-hollern' mission.
Guiding Principles of Juniper Ridge - 2004
The following ten principles illustrate the City’s desires for the short- and long-term development of Juniper Ridge in terms of character, employment, and design. They are embodied in the Conceptual Master Plan described later and found in the Appendix.
1 Development at Juniper Ridge must be of the highest quality that matches the project’s importance to Bend and Central Oregon.
2 Juniper Ridge will attract clean R&D and compatible businesses that will provide living-wage jobs into the future.
3 Industrial land uses will be prioritized for industrial sectors targeted through the sector targeting process (study currently underway).
4 The university and Regional Educational Consortium will be a model of innovation that responds to community and Central Oregon needs while serving the needs of businesses.
5 The university shall be closely integrated with businesses at Juniper Ridge, providing opportunities for interaction both inside and outside the classroom.
6 Design, construction, and operations will follow the best practices of sustainable and green development.
7 Juniper Ridge should be a model of energy conservation, with a targeted building energy cost 25 percent to 50 percent lower than traditional buildings.
8 Land use planning for Juniper Ridge will provide for pedestrians, bicycles, transit, and the efficient use of automobiles.
9 Open spaces will be integrated throughout the project, connected by trails, while preserving the most important natural features of Juniper Ridge.
10 Only land uses that are compatible with these features should be located in the South Sector of Juniper Ridge.
In a written account, they blamed “gross community overdevelopment, affirmative action loopholes and incompetent state government management of federal affordable housing programs” for the problems.
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This is/was in this months Atlantic-Monthly, I told you cunts weeks ago to read this.
Now its being printed in the abby-normal press.
The issue is 'manufacturing-consent' is being setup for a total shut-down on moving the poor-blacks into the suburbs, its only been a blessing for the likes of HOLLERN that were able to convert their inner city tenements to condos, and push the poor to the suburbs.
Note, too in BEND as its easy federal dollars, and lets NOT FORGET CUNTS, whats MOST important about both Garzini&Kuratek is they're federal-block-grant writers, which means they can get federal money for low income housing. You get fed money, and the city defer's SDC's, you its win-win.
Where do you go in the future? You hide behind the gate at Pronghorn? That's why there is an inner-gate moat system @ pronghorn.
The future of Bend is poverty, and crime.
My own feeling has always been that one day or another you always will be outed. So why not just step up to the plate in the first place?
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"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
Whether it be Louis Carrol, or Mark Twain, they didn't use their real name, and its long been this way.
When you do parody, and comedy, for entertainment value, many people don't get it.
Calling yourself 'bilboINbend' is nice cover, anyone that wants to do the home-work, whether it be the FED's or lawyers ( same ), can find Samuel Clemmons ( real mark twain ) whenever they wish.
I think that the 'anonymity' just makes it a little easier for stupid idiots to find you. I have no doubt that the BossHogg's know who is who. That is what money is for.
But, you know, a good soul cleansing beef about traffic or getting a ticket for your unleashed dog? Hey, it's better to put your angst on the web than take it out on the street
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A wise man one of my mentors once said "There comes an age where getting hit by a cops club doesn't heal anymore".
When your young you can go to the street, and get beaten, or run. Been there did that. When you get old and get hit by a club, the concussion is generally permanent, and you spend your remaining years slobbering. The cops just say it was a pre-existing condition, and always get away with it, its the system.
Writing anonymously is/was a fine tradition in America, especially for the old, too old to get hit in the head by police billy clubs.
Poor Doh.
You OK, dude?
Buster, C-R has the two lists of design principles side by side on page 6 of the Master Plan Overview. Here are the new ones, which are weighted just a bit differently:
1. Juniper Ridge is a distinctive extension of Bend’s community
fabric.
2. The community should be comprised of a collection of walkable neighborhoods through a coherent system of interconnected streets, trails, and open spaces.
3. Uses shall be mixed or located near each other in a manner
to facilitate pedestrian and shared circulation as a viable
alternative to automobiles.
4. The most diverse uses should be located in the town center to
create a vibrant area that will characterize Juniper Ridge to the
region and stimulate job creation through its economic success.
5. The university should be located to connect to and serve most components of the community.
6. Important buildings and open space should be located in
special places:
• On squares or parks
• At the termination of vistas
• At special intersections
7. Regional open space systems should be located in corridors
to facilitate a diverse bio-habitat for existing flora and fauna, to preserve existing lava ridges and land forms, and to be
community-wide resource.
8. Housing of varying types and densities should be provided
to serve a range of lifestyles and budgets in order to promote
diversity within the community.
9. Open space should be composed of a range of landscape
characters.
10. Architecture and landscape character should be rooted in the
traditions of Central Oregon and the American Northwest.
11. The planning of land uses, transportation, infrastructure and
detailed building designs should embrace sustainable methods
and practices.
12. In order for Juniper Ridge to sustain long-term value, it must
be economically feasible, have the ability to be phased, and be
flexible to adapt over time to changing markets and lifestyles.
...
Note that the original list doesn't contain the word "housing", while the new list has one entire item devoted to it, along with other mentions of "mixed-use" (i.e. like NWXC), etc.
Juniper Ridge definitely morphed from an employment lands focus to a Celebration-like perfect Cali town with some employment lands on the west side.
And don't even get me started on the University concept. Number one question is who is going to pay for it.
Link: http://www.ci.bend.or.us/depts/urban_renewal_economic_development/juniper_ridge/master_plan/docs/06072_Master_Plan_1_0.pdf
I hate it when I forget to check the formatting...
This should be rich-from the agenda of the 8/20 council meeting:
"D. 3 minute response by Councilor Bill Friedman to statements made by representative of Infrastructure First."
You know, I just don't fucking get it sometimes. We are not exactly on sound fiscal footing right now. Everyone knows that. Yet, last week the City deferred SDC's and gave JRP a million dollar gift.
This coming meeting we see another SDC referral (for the school system), and an item for creating a legal department at a $400K annual cost.
Creation of the Legal Division for the City of Bend
(Issue Summary) (Resolution)
A. Hold a public hearing on a proposed resolution approving a supplemental budget for the second fiscal year of the Biennial budget period, beginning July 1, 2007 in the Internal Service Fund: Administration and Financial Services Division
B. Consider a roll call vote on the proposed resolution approving a supplemental budget for the second fiscal year of the Biennial budget period.
C. Authorize 3.0 new positions in the new legal division for 2 attorneys and 1 legal assistant.
Forbes & Schannauer currently provide contracted legal services for the City. City management has decided to hire in-house legal counsel to enhance legal services provided to all city departments. The in-house attorneys are expected to have expertise in the following areas: land acquisitions, public-private partnerships, development agreements, state land use laws, as well as other regulations governing municipal activities such as ADA, labor relations, employment, public contracting and risk management. Contract attorneys will continue to be retained for issues requiring specialized knowledge. The proposed budget for the legal division is estimated at $400,000 for FY 2008-09
So we don't have much for reserves, and yet we consistently reduce income while increasing outflow.
I can't really imagine a good ending, unless by some miracle the economy picks up a whole bunch in the next 6-12 months.
Anybody have any Open House reports? There is a whole bunch of ads for them in the BULL today.
NY Times
August 10, 2008
Developers Poised in Arizona to Welcome the Spillover of Las Vegas’s Boom
By STEVE FRIESS
KINGMAN, Ariz. — It seems fitting that the most prominent resident to emerge from this dusty desert outpost is Andy Devine, a Western actor who was best known for playing helpmates to the likes of John Wayne and Roy Rogers.
Fitting because Kingman, an area of just 40,000 people, is poised to become the freshest face in the Sun Belt’s growth spurt. But even as Kingman rises, the question remains whether it will become a star in its own right or, like its famous son, is destined to be a sidekick to the region’s flashier metropolises, particularly Las Vegas.
Two major developers based in Nevada — Rhodes Homes and the Mardian Group — have won approval to build communities in the Kingman area that, by 2040, could have a combined 80,000 new homes.
The mayor of Kingman, John Salem, predicts that would mean an additional 150,000 residents, a conservative estimate by other accounts.
Driving this development is not so much that the world has discovered Kingman, but that the Las Vegas region is starting to run out of land and water to sustain its growth.
A $240 million, four-lane bridge across the Colorado River is due to replace the two-lane road that now crosses the Hoover Dam between Arizona and Nevada in 2010, making travel between the areas much easier.
When that happens, Mr. Salem predicted, it will be difficult to keep what he calls “the Kingman secret” quiet any longer.
“It’s gorgeous here, we don’t have any natural disasters, no forest fires, no hurricanes, tornadoes or floods, good schools, lots of cheap land, the cost of living’s down, we have proximity to the Colorado River, to Flagstaff, to Las Vegas, to Phoenix,” said the mayor, who won election in May on a platform of being friendlier to developers.
“We’re right in the middle of everything,” he continued. “There’s going to be quite a few more people looking to Kingman once the dam bypass goes through.”
There is also, so it seems, “much more water than anyone really realized,” said Chris Stevens, an executive for Rhodes Homes, whose Pravada development west of Kingman in an unincorporated area known as Golden Valley is expected to include 33,000 homes on about 5,000 acres.
Preliminary studies by hydrologists for the Mardian Group and for Rhodes Homes have convinced the Arizona Department of Water Resources that there is a 100-year water supply for the developments.
Leonard Mardian is particularly bullish on the idea that many of his residents will make what he says will be a one-hour drive to work in central Las Vegas from the Ranch at White Hills, the first of his three planned communities about 30 miles southeast of the Hoover Dam and 40 miles north of Kingman.
Mr. Mardian, the owner of 47,000 acres in northwest Arizona, is not concerned about fuel prices; he said he believed that people would soon switch to cars powered by alternative fuel anyway.
Mr. Mardian said he planned to sell homes at one-third the cost of those in southern Nevada.
Both Mr. Mardian and Mr. Stevens say their companies are undeterred by the weak housing market, even as Las Vegas and Phoenix suffer some of the nation’s highest foreclosure rates and steepest home-value declines. Las Vegas in particular, they note, is on the cusp of yet another boom, with 50,000 hotel rooms expected to be added to the resort corridor by 2012.
“We can’t say we’re in a bad cycle right now so we should just stop what we’re doing,” said Mr. Stevens, whose company has about 500 $2,000 deposits on the first wave of Pravada houses and has billboards advertising houses starting around $140,000. “We can’t do that. You have to just recognize that we’re going to go through down cycles and up cycles.”
The anticipated Vegas boom translates into an additional 113,500 new resort-related jobs alone, according to calculations by Bill Lerner, a Deutsche Bank gaming stock analyst.
“There’s going to be another million people here in the next 10 years,” Mr. Mardian predicted. “Where are they going to live?”
For Kingman residents, the changes to come are drastic and, in some quarters, unwelcome.
Once a cherished stop along U.S. 66, the city became a mere fueling point for many when Interstate 40 opened in the mid-1970s. The population began rising in the 1990s as residents like Earl Kemp, 77, fled densely populated cities for a rural lifestyle; the Census Bureau says it grew 35.8 percent since 2000.
Now Mr. Kemp, who moved from San Diego a decade ago and lives a mile from the edge of the planned Pravada project, is among those angered by the coming tsunami of development. “It’s much too big,” Mr. Kemp said. “I was attracted to this area for the peace and solitude, but peace and solitude no longer exists with 80,000 people living a mile from me.”
Mr. Kemp and many of his neighbors also fear Pravada will use so much water from the local aquifer that they will have to dig their own wells deeper.
Sandy Fabritz-Whitney, deputy director of the Arizona Department of Water Resources, acknowledged that that could happen, but she said that “there’s nothing in the state law that protects them” from that eventuality because Rhodes is not planning to dig any deeper than legally allowed.
Rhodes comes in for particularly harsh criticism by local activists because the company promised years ago when it began buying up land that it would “be respectful of the environment,” said Denise Bensusan, a member of the Mohave County Land Subdivision Committee that is rewriting the residential subdivision regulations for the region. “They said they were going to use desert plants and all this, but the first thing they did was to put in huge palm trees that take so much water just to announce their arrival.”
Ms. Bensusan is especially alarmed by the fact that the state gave Rhodes and Mardian their water approvals without waiting for the results of a study of the area’s ground water supply that is now under way by the United States Geological Survey.
But others shrug off such concerns. The developments mean construction jobs, increased property and sales tax revenues and the potential for big-box stores to open here so that local residents no longer have to drive 40 miles west to Bullhead City, Ariz., for, say, a Best Buy.
Mr. Salem said FedEx and Wal-Mart were building distribution centers in the Kingman area to take advantage of two major roads that cross here: Interstate 40, which stretches from California to North Carolina, and U.S. 93, which links Las Vegas to Phoenix.
And Westar, a developer based in California, announced in July that it planned to build a 37-acre, 380,000-square-foot shopping center and office complex three miles north of Pravada.
“There’s still lots of open space,” said Steve Wagner, a real estate agent who moved to Kingman from Southern California six years ago. “We’re not yet condo on condo, neighbor on neighbor with five-foot easements. I mean, it’s going to come, but it’s not here today.”
The mayor believes that with careful planning, Kingman can maintain its own character and become a destination unto itself.
“There’s going to be growth here no matter what; it’s just how we handle it,” said Mr. Salem, 44, who moved here in 1992 from Phoenix, where he was raised.
“I don’t think it’s going be anything on the scale of Phoenix or Las Vegas, and we don’t want that,” Mr. Salem said. “But Kingman has unlimited marketing potential for whatever different people want to do within the city. People will want to come here.”
>>Anybody have any Open House reports? There is a whole bunch of ads for them in the BULL today.
Does anyone even go to these anymore?
The Kingman story is interesting, but BEND its not.
You got to understand, that right now its a 2hr drive on that little road from vegas to kingman, going down into the hoover dam. Once the new bridge over the grand-canyon is complete, it will be an hour drive.
Which is commutable.
How different is Kingman, AZ? Well you can still by raw land for $100/acre. So your looking at a lot of tier-1 investors, ready for those vegas commuters to come down.
Now back to BEND-Oregon.
We in the middle of no where, and no bridge over the cascade is going to make us a 1hr commute to PDX.
BEND will ALWAYS be an isolated desert Island.
My advice to ALL dog-dick sucking realtors in BEND, pack your bags and move to Kingman, and catch this wave.
RE: "Poor Doh.
You OK, dude?"
Nothing will happen, half the town is watching.
BendB must be outta town or something...not a comment from him on the thread all day :O
Juniper Ridge definitely morphed from an employment lands focus to a Celebration-like perfect Cali town with some employment lands on the west side.
Peak Oil is here and the old pattern of development based on plentiful and cheap gas is obsolete. Mixing uses makes sense for the future; the 1940-1950s zoning practice of segregating uses -- homes over here, jobs over there, shopping somewhere else, with everything 10 miles away from everything else -- doesn't. The handling of J Ridge definitely has been fucked up (this being Bend, how could it not be?) but mixed use is still the way to go out there.
We in the middle of no where, and no bridge over the cascade is going to make us a 1hr commute to PDX.
High-speed rail could. But this is AMURKA and we don't do shit like investing in infrastructure -- that's fer them SOCIALIST countries. (Which are now whipping our sorry ass economically.)
that's fer them SOCIALIST countries. (Which are now whipping our sorry ass economically.)
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You are an idiot. And a commie loving idiot, to boot.
Name one socialist country giving us a whooping?
France? Yeah. and your name is John "Francophile" Kerry.
Cuba? Bwahhahahaha!!!! LMAO!!
"High-speed rail could."
high-speed rail makes sense for connecting population centers. in the east, it already connects boston/providence/nyc/newark/philly/baltimore/DC. in the west, there is a proposal for san fran/san jose/LA/san diego.
the notion that it might make sense for bend/portland is beyond laughable. maybe, just maybe, portland/seattle/vancouver.
"We in the middle of no where, and no bridge over the cascade is going to make us a 1hr commute to PDX.
High-speed rail could."
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"the notion that it might make sense for bend/portland is beyond laughable."
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No, the socialists could do it... really, it could work. As a tunnel. Longer than the Chunnel.
PDX-Bend, the "Tunnel to Nowhere". From the socialists. There's your tax dollars.
Bwahahaha hahahaha.
"the "Tunnel to Nowhere". From the socialists."
what socialists? the bridge to nowhere was from the republicans.
Yes.
And the answer from the socialists is the PDXBend tunnel...
Dolt!
Re: Kingman is interesting..
Buster, have you ever been through that hellhole?
It is a community based upon a dam across the Colorado.
Re: socialists
Don't you dumb fucks realize your tax dollars built every fucking highway we have?
The Bullshittin editorializes today in favor of making the SDC deferrals PERMANENT. The banks won’t lend the builders money, so COBA and The Bullshittin gang wants the city (taxpayers) to lend it to them interest-free.
What do you want to bet that after massive numbers of builders are unable to pay the SDCs they owe, COBA and The Bullshittin will say the city should just write off the debt?
This is beyond disgusting.
You are an idiot. And a commie loving idiot, to boot. Name one socialist country giving us a whooping?
Economically, pretty much all of the EU countries are in better shape than we are right now.
On NPR the other day somebody (didn't catch who it was) made a very insightful comment. He said that if everybody in the red states could spend two weeks in Europe, it would transform the politics of America.
It's true. Most Americans have never been beyond their own borders (except maybe to Canada or Mexico) and get their ideas about Europe from Limbaugh, O'Reilly and other right-wing gasbags. They think the "socialist" Europeans are living in cardboard boxes and eating dead cats that they find by the side of the road. Fact is, by most quality-of-life measurements they're better off than the typical American.
Bruce Pussy, buster owns 1,000's of acres near Kingman, AZ of which I bought for $50/acre. It's almost 45 miles from Hoover Dam. It was a gas stop heading East on the most lonely part of HWY-66. I just started exploding about ten years ago, mostly because South-Cali became too expensive, and its only a four hour drive from LA, not much unlike our Bend from PDX.
I can say many things about that country. Most interesting to me is that the soil is like ground up heated glass, not unlike that found at the Los Alamos atomic test site. Say you want to put a post in a hole, you have to get a pick and shovel, and buckets of water and work for a week to get a hole 2ft diameter and 3ft deep. Thus not a fucking thing happens unless you have a very large and heavy back-hoe.
Nothing grows there except in the 'washes' which are river beds of sand. Above 4,000 there are junipers, and above 5,000 shitty pines. It's fucking cold there in the winter, and pleasant in the spring/fall, and fucking hot in the summer. Every kind of the most poisonous snake & scorpion lives there. The snakes there are neuro toxic and so are the scorpions, and giant lizards.
The average elevation is near 4,000-5,000 feet.
My land holdings down there are now worth about $1,000/acre and I have made a little money if I were to sell on paper, I doubt I'll have ever sell. That said I get letters in the mail weekly from Las Vegas con-men offering me a percentage of their profits if I let them build STD's on my land. I figure after the new bridge goes in and the commute to Las Vegas is under an hour the land will go to $20k/acre.
That said, BEND is/was $1.6M/acre just to give you an example of how fucking over priced Bend is in relation ship to Kingman.
I spend no time down there, I bought the land years ago because a friend a moved there, visited him, and he told me he would have bought the land had he the money. I bought the land and lease to cattle folk, who are able to raise one cow per 50 acres, I think here in the NW you can have one cow on 5 acres.
The movie "Tremors" about the giant worms that burrow into the ground is all you need to know about the country, the fictional characters are 100% accurate.
I say, I demand that our REHO's go to KINGMAN, old buster has pointed out that its the future, if I were young, and wanted to make money thats where I would go if I were a REHO or builder, but I'm not I'm a petro-geophysicist who can live anywhere. I would rather make money selling widgets, than hustling people in the desert.
There is NOTHING fucking similar to BEND & KINGMAN, well except one thing. There are old rail-road guys there got the land for free. They'll be the next HOLLERN/HOMER-WILLLIAMs's, ...
Kingman will now be very close to Las-Vegas in time, and its already weekend close to LA. I can see 2nd home LA people coming out to Kingman for the weekend, and going up to VEGAS for the night.
WATER the real problem there cunts, nobody actually has wells, as they can cost $100k, to compare here in Oregon I can get a well for $5k. Almost everybody I know down there has there water hauled, 2,000 gal loads for $40, which lasts about two weeks, if you don't have a pool. The water must be treated with black-lights & charcoal as its non-potable. You have to be in KINGMAN city-limits to be on city water, but that sucks also.
WATER is going to be the fucking problem, Lake Powell is almost dry, and they're trying to dry Lake Mead. The Colorado River, is almost dry by the time it gets to mexico.
I see water as the problem down there, which is why the Pacific NW is so important. We don't have the crime, pollution, or water problems.
To the people in Kingman or Flagstaff they feel like NO-CALI, they hate the people in the South, like Phoenix, they call it the arm-pit just like no-cali, calls so-cali.
What does any of this have to do with BEND? Not a fucking thing the PUSSY is probably the person who posted the NY-TIMES article trying to convince the group et-all that if we just had a bridge over the cascades that Bend would come back.
Better would be a tunnel through the cascade from PDX to Bend, like they have in EUROPE where you can go 100MPH, yes thats it for $100Billion we could restore the BEND-BUBBLE.
They think the "socialist" Europeans are living in cardboard boxes and eating dead cats that they find by the side of the road.
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The richest most influential area of Europe is in Tuscany, and they are commie, repeat Tuscany is ran by the Communist Party, they got voted into power after WWII.
Everything is beautiful, the food is perfect, the wine, the women, and its all fucking commie. Then go to England where its fascist, and the people are ugly and grey, and eat shit food out of a can.
A people comes from their heart, yes Italy has a fucked government, but all the States are basically their own party, even machivelli knew that it was impossible to unite Italians, but again far worse than socialits, the commies in Tuscany have made a paradise.
THE USA is the MOST SOCIALIST country in the world, they tax and control, and permit everything. In CHINA you can start a business and get rich, and nobody stops you.
ITs a fucking JOKE that morons in the USA think they free.
Yes, travel, and understand that the USA is a shit-hole, we have more people in jail than any nation on earth, in the history of the earth.
The USA started as a prison colony, and remains so to this day.
We in the middle of no where, and no bridge over the cascade is going to make us a 1hr commute to PDX.
High-speed rail could. But this is AMURKA and we don't do shit like investing in infrastructure --
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I have said it too many times but I'll say it again here, democrat-liberals think up these fucking ideas, but then republican-builder's grab and go with them.
That's why JR morphed from a liberal college campus to another fucking STD.
Lastly, pull your head out of your ass folks when you say vancouver/pdx/bend/sf
Bend ain't even on the fucking map, Bend is nothing, there is no reason for anyone to go to Bend.
Yeh, some pussy like BP could fight for a tunnel from PDX to Bend, and then KNIFE-RIVER would put the whole republican party behind. WHY? Because they know that it would cost $100B and they would get it all. Who would pay? Nobody, but we would borrow from the Chinese.
All know whats going to happen to the USA? It's going to be end up owned by the CHINA, they'll not even have to fight us, because they'll hold the fucking title to all the land. That's when the real socialist USA will be seen, and they NULL&VOID the chinese paper titles.
China is going up, and the USA is going down, that's all you need to know.
Flipping through my copy of The Bullshittin this morning I was struck by how incredibly fucking BORING that paper is. Nothing but happy-talk puff pieces on every section front. On Page 1 we have the usual "Sunday Reader" fluff piece about two 19-year-olds who breed bucking bulls. On the Community Life front we have "Bend Film Festival is ready to roll -- Event is 'healthy' despite rocky year, director says.' On the Business front we have "Awards prove validating for Tumalo cheesemaker" and "Butler Aircraft expansion into Madras is expected to bring high-paying jobs and attract other aviation-related businesses." The Local front leads with a fluff piece about the Celtic Festival and "Teeth top agenda for Crook County students."
The rule seems to be: Never take a critical look at anything, never dig below the smiley-face surface, never print any "negative" news (unless, that is, it's about somebody The Bullshittin has a grudge against, such as Betsy Johnson or Ben Westlund).
It will be a great day when the Chandler family finally sells our local rag to somebody who is actually interested in publishing a NEWSpaper.
China is going up, and the USA is going down, that's all you need to know.
Hell yes. Did you catch the Olympics opening ceremony? A Chinese "Triumph of the Will." Scary.
Regarding HOMER,
1.) I told him for years to stay off BENDBB, that the cunt was collecting IP's.
2.) ALL the fucking Jay Audia shit came from Marge, our realtor, and nobody ever proved otherwise all the rumors weren't true.
3.) No where specially did homer say any Bend-Bank was taking out out builders, what he says is 'bank ordered mob hit', my reading of that could be a kids piggy bank. Personal money, personal vendetta, any loaned money is a bank.
It's not about HOMER, its about the freedom to exchange ideas.
All along I have said that BENDBB was a trojan horse site, that they log IP's, and now they have outed HOMER.
So what does homer do? I told him to shut down this site a long time ago.
I told him to stay off BENDBB, where his IP was being logged.
The powers that be have had these sites black-listed, and this week they were un-black-listed, in retaliation the powers 'outed homer', so fucking what, he must of knew this was coming.
The issue at this point is who is 'marge' and is the information correct, many have said she's a man. Been around as long as the pussy, newbies we know nothing about.
What is clear is that this week this site has taken the debate to new levels, and NOBODY is discussing the SDC deferral issue, I think that all the powers in BEND want to shut down free debate.
We need other people to start new sites, like this where many people can post and move on.
Homer should shut down this site and lie low for awhile, people will forget quickly, in the future homer should stay off sites like BENDBB.
There will be other sites, we need sites like this, folks will drift to other places, people need to share rumors.
Hell yes. Did you catch the Olympics opening ceremony? A Chinese "Triumph of the Will." Scary.
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FUCK YOU why is it scary.
90% of chinese work their ass off, 90% of USA is on welfare.
You sow what you reap.
here's the bulletin editorial mentioned above. the bull seems to think that infrastructure expansion doesn't cost the city a cent until the first toilet is flushed or the first car extra car appears on a road.
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Make SDC deferral plan permanent
Published: August 10. 2008 4:00AM PST
In what it characterizes as a kind of economic stimulus, the Bend City Council decided this week to allow builders to defer the payment of some system development charges. This is a good thing, but not only for the reason the city cites. Sure, the new policy will help builders weather an economic slump. But the best argument for the change is that it’s the fair thing to do.
The SDCs at issue are those paid for roads, sewer and water infrastructure. These fees amount to thousands of dollars for a single family home, and the city historically has collected the money when it issues building permits. At this stage of construction, of course, the impacts the SDCs are supposed to mitigate are approximately zilch. Nevertheless, builders frequently must borrow — and pay interest on — the money to cover the fees.
If a fair person were to create the system from scratch, he’d require the payment of SDCs just before people moved into a house and started flushing toilets, driving to the grocery store and watering the lawn. That is, in effect, what the change the council approved Wednesday does. It allows builders to apply for a payment deferral. Successful applicants would have to pay their SDCs within nine months or when they apply for an occupancy permit, whichever came first. No pay, no occupancy permit. That’s a strong incentive not to default.
Assuming lots of builders apply for the deferral, the city could experience a temporary cash-flow problem. It counts on a steady stream of SDCs to cover some of its debt. Should SDCs drop too much, the city might have to find another way to pay these bills temporarily. More than anything, it seems to us, this possibility points out the risk of counting on a volatile revenue source like SDCs to cover debt.
Suppose construction in Bend ground to a complete halt? In any case, the problem would be temporary, as the city would collect the SDCs within a matter of months.
Because the SDC deferral is likely to inconvenience the city only temporarily, and because the increased fairness that inconvenience will purchase is good policy in its own right, one element of the new program is puzzling: It will expire Aug. 31, 2009. Given the city’s willingness to tolerate the necessary cash-flow upheaval anyway, why not make the deferral program permanent? Why buy a little fairness when you can buy a lot at roughly the same price?
This question is certain to arise next summer, as the expiration date approaches. Barring unforeseen problems with the deferral policy, it’s hard to imagine that any councilor who believes people should be treated fairly would oppose an effort to make it permanent.
SDC's
Too much has been written, but as I have said all along here, the SDC or subsidized SDC is the the third-leg of the siamese twin stool.
1.) SDC (10% developer,90% taxpayer )
2.) easy-money ( bush tribe )
3.) taxpayer paid pr&marketing
1,2,3 is what caused BEND to be #1 in appreciation. Now that the bubble has burst, those who hold land that doesn't SELL need cash. Think HOLLERN&SMITH, and BAUHOFER owners of BEND.
The non-payment of SDC will bring IDIOT builders from all over the USA to BEND, so they can build for 'free', but they have to buy the land! That's where the HOGGS make out.
What your now seeing is desperation.
We're near the end of the road, nothing is selling, and anything will be tried.
Many citys had 1,2,3; all had #2 all things being equal, that said Bend-BANKS were MORE generous than most, which is why they'll BK the worst. Nobody had #3, only a shit eating town like Bend would have put up with this shit. #1 of course ensured developer PROFIT, had they had to pay the actual COST of SDC, there would have been no profit.
During the last ten years the actual cost to the taxpayer of a new home is/as $70k, and the builder paid only $12k. Now they want to pay zero, how much different is it really? Not much.
It's better to compare the right way to run a city tax Wilsonville-OR, where they charge $60k, best schools, library, sidewalks, fire dept, top-notch service, they're rolling in money. Then you get BEND where ONLY the hoggs are rolling in money.
Then insult to injury people try to say Bend is the next Aspen, no BEND is the next Stockton, CA, or Oakland, CA. In 5-10 years no rich person will be caught dead in Bend.
In the future people who commit suicide will leave notes that say, "please spread my ashes anywhere but Bend".
"Making the SDC plan permanent" is the same as "politicians give up on the future of Bend."
This is them saying they have NO IDEA on how to build a real economy in Bend. All they can do is pine for the few years of glory they had during a boom that can't repeat.
The principal complaint of BENDBB on HOMER, is that he reported the death of Audia, which can be seen below is a FACT.
The assertion of SUICIDE came from Marge, our realtor, who has never been know to date, to have ever provided us with inaccurate information.
The reporting of the Audia suicide had nothing to do with HOMER.
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Jay Joseph Audia
Published: July 27. 2008 4:00AM PST
Jay Joseph Audia
Jay Joseph Audia
October 15, 1959 - July 19, 2008
Jay Audia, the "Banty Rooster", died in his home in Bend, on July 19, 2008. Jay graduated from Enterprise High School in Redding, CA in 1978 and played golf for San Diego State University. He was a prominent businessman in Bend and Sunriver, and an avid supporter of his community.
Jay had many passions including auto racing, golf, fly-fishing, riding his Harley, and playing craps. He had recently found a passion for Christ through friends and church. Jay will forever be remembered for his amazing sense of humor and generous heart.
Survivors include: father, Joseph Audia, of Bend and Redding, CA; sons, Travis and Brandon, of Bend; brothers, Paul of Menifee, CA, and John, of Bend, Sister, Ann of Bend. He was preceded in death by his mother, Sonja Audia.
A Celebration of Life service will take place at Westside Church on Tuesday, July 29th at 12:00 p.m.
Donations may be sent in honor of Jay to Westside Church, 2051 Shevlin Park Road, Bend, OR 97701.
Niswonger-Reynolds Funeral Home is handling arrangements.
There is the myth that politicians 'create jobs'.
HL-MENCKEN said it best ..
"All elections are the advanced auction of stolen goods, group-A is promised goods by stealing from group-B, 90% of the time the rhetoric means nothing, 10% of the time out right fraud is committed."
Your witnessing the attempt to steal from the tax-payer 99% of Bend, so that the handful of HOGGS in BEND can sell their last remaining worthless acres of desert land to out of city/state suckers.
It worked, that's how HOLLERN got SEBASTIAN to come, because Sebastian left Wilsonville in 2002 to come to Bend to avoid SDC. Now with ZERO-SDC it will be national news, builders from all over the country will come here. They'll be known as tier-4 builers, and the result will be 100% suicide.
Yeh, some pussy like BP could fight for a tunnel from PDX to Bend, and then KNIFE-RIVER would put the whole republican party behind. WHY? Because they know that it would cost $100B and they would get it all. Who would pay? Nobody, but we would borrow from the Chinese.
If AMURKA did not PISS AWAY trillions of dollars on needless OIL WARS and an obscenely bloated "defense" budget ($300 hammers, $1,000 toilet seats) we would have plenty of money for our infrastructure and social needs without having to borrow it from the Chinese.
After 30 years of following loony right-wing policies AMURKA is FUCKED big-time and I don't think we're ever going to recover from it.
90% of chinese work their ass off, 90% of USA is on welfare.
Don't you think 90% might be a SLIGHT exaggeration?
In point of fact US workers have the highest productivity in the world. (You can look it up.) But that high productivity translates into higher profits for corporations instead of higher wages for workers.
"2.) ALL the fucking Jay Audia shit came from Marge, our realtor, and nobody ever proved otherwise all the rumors weren't true."
"The assertion of SUICIDE came from Marge, our realtor, who has never been know to date, to have ever provided us with inaccurate information."
I stand by all that I have asserted about Jay. I have since spoken to 2 others that knew him and both comfirmed the info, with more detail that I have not posted.
homee, where are you? Vacation? Hiding? Whaaatt'sss UUUPPP?
We're going to have to move to a new blog site.
Discuss.
I'm thinking a blogger site with no writer. BendBubble3?
Owner of site does nothing but start a new thread every time the thread gets near 100 posts.
Opinions?
Bridges, roads, tunnels, canals, and trails to nowhere are built all over the world as monuments and tributes. Nothing to do with Rep or Dem. All about power. Remember that Communists and Nazis exerted the same control on populations, and had them all ratting out their neighbors.
These are often built in honor of a new strongman in Africa. Sometimes the best-paved road around is one that goes nowhere.
What you want to beware is anything you can get people to believe in. Racial purity, religion, environmentalism, baggism, intellectualism, nationalism. basically any -ism. If you can get people to BELIEVE in it, you can get people to rat out neighbors and kill for it.
It's beliefs that kill. All kinds of beliefs. Liberal and Conservative is a sideshow. Both are dangerous.
>>In point of fact US workers have the highest productivity in the world.
Absolutely true. And something to be proud of.
BUT. Also means we produce more stuff useful and CRAP) with less workers. Productivity is what killed our millions of well-paid factory workers. In the US, robots have the jobs.
We have not adjusted to our productivity gains in healthy ways.
"In point of fact US workers have the highest productivity in the world."
i believe that tells us how much is produced per person-hour worked, not how many people work or how many hours.
Buster--too many gin and tonics last night watching the Olympics. I had Kingman confused with Page.
R U MIA? Anybody know how to check on him? No new rant has ruined my Sunday morning.
What you want to beware is anything you can get people to believe in. Racial purity, religion, environmentalism, baggism, intellectualism, nationalism. basically any -ism.
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I have always said that Bend is a desert Island, that is run/ran on "CARGO CULT-ism".
All of Bend electorate are amenity parasites, and they all wait for other folks to bring in shit in containers. We make nothing, we consume. We're in debt to our eyeballs.
Yes, Bend is an -ism.
Behind the curtain the boss-hogg pull's the levels of power that control the BULL/SORE and tells the natives about all the good containers of shit coming.
Anybody that doesn't support Bend Cargo Cult-ism is a problem, and must be exterminated. What do you expect of a 1 or 2 company town, all controlled by a couple Marketing-MBA's.
R U MIA? Anybody know how to check on him? No new rant has ruined my Sunday morning.
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Honestly marge, your still anon, what you need to do is get off your own lazy ass, and get a blog site going, so folks like homer can come in and be anonymous.
The best thing for HOMER right now is to lay low, and be forgotten, then in a month or two he can start a new blog and call him someone else.
We need more blogs, and we need more people to write.
We can't have ONE ROCK in Bend where everybody leaves an intellectual leak, because its too easy for the HOGG's to take away the rock.
Homer fucked up, by hanging out on BENDBB, hopefully in the future he has learned.
It just takes time, lay low, and you'll be forgotten.
All along HOMER I have begged you to not get your ego involved in this, its essential you not try to find fame, or noteriety, all famous people always regret their loss of privacy it ain't worth it.
MARGE, get back on "angry bend bitch", and write shit, and lets get a new site going.
We're going to have to move to a new blog site.
Discuss.
I'm thinking a blogger site with no writer. BendBubble3?
Owner of site does nothing but start a new thread every time the thread gets near 100 posts.
Opinions?
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Why not just fall back to 'bendbubble' and use that or post bubble?
The problem is not all of us want the week-to-week work, I certainly want to dissappear from this shit every few months, I mean this shit gets depressing.
Owner of site does nothing but start a new thread every time the thread gets near 100 posts.
Opinions?
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This is what I suggest, we get the create bendbubble3.blogspot.com, or whatever hell use bendbubble.com, I don't care, or how about bendbubble2012, as that's probably when we'll see reset bottom.
The IMPORTANT thing is that every few days someone posts the most recent news as a new thread.
Here's what I suggest, we take 3-4 of the most common people, and they supply email-name, you can use a highly anonymous email name from the websites, then with blogspot.com, I(we) can add YOU as an author we have these basic people create new stuff. To mix it up I might suggest Ned, homer, buster, bp; I wish we had other's but the truth be told the others have proven their unwilling or unable to use the technology.
The good part about doing it this way, is nobody knows who created the basic thread it would have been any of 4-6 people, of course anybody who has been around for more than month would know who was who; pussy, drunk, illiterate, ... poet, ... The thing is to mix it up, and have everyone be anonymous, and we the insiders know who is who by writing style.
The pussy already has public email so he could be the consensus for the list, then once we agree on a new name, someone will create the site with a highly anonymous email account, and invite the others to be an author, it is essential to have lots of authors, because I for one need to take a break from this BEND SHIT every few months.
Some of you might disagree, but I think the fact that the core who know how blogs work, are of such different points on the political continuum that it will always mix stuff up. Topics and new posts may or may not start too frequently, but we'll just have to see.
Once everyone has a highly anonymous email name, they should send it to one person to maintain the list, the other thing is to have a email digest list-server so there is a non-public way for anonymous folk to communicate, and decide whose turn it is if there are too many new threads.
I think people will continue to use dunc's site, thus that's a good place for meet up to discuss a new site.
Another idea given that the SORE is finally starting to come around perhaps HBM could host a site/group there where anything could go?
At this point in time its essential that HOMER fall off the radar for a few months, and reappear as Darth-Vader or something 180% tangential in a few months.
Amnesia is quick in this town, the eye of sauron will find something else to masturbate with.
HBM,
I completely agree with the Baruch analogy. I have read all his books.
( Baruch knew the stock-market bubble was over in 1929, because his shoeshine boy was giving him stock advice, Baruch was the greatest trader in history )
For me I always knew the bend-bubble was a mirage and hype being here since early 1960's. I knew the Bubble was over in August 2006, that was the announcement of the Shire, it sent a shock around the around that Little Bend-Oregon had gone completely nuts.
Quite a few of my 'rich' friends from PDX came over to Bend in 2004, and put their life savings into BEND RE, and now they ain't rich anymore.
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HBM, What do you think about the idea of allowing a new blog here called 'bendbubble' where people can freely discuss Bend RE, so long as there is no vulgarity?? As you know the blogs are being shutdown, and there will soon be no arena in Bend to freely discuss what's happening to "OUR" town. I really think that the Source is already all too aware of the changing tide, perhaps 1-2 years ahead of the Bulletin, the majority of our citizens know something is very-very wrong in this town. Do you think that Aaron or whomever would allow a blog here called 'bendbubble' where the more active people who write about Bend can come and write, and share comments? and rumors can be validated?
Do you have any suggestions of an electronic forum in Bend where this can be done, where its NOT controlled by the Bend Real Estate industry.
More weird Bend news:
Chimp attack.
Did anyone even know there were chimps in Bend?
https://www.theanonymousemail.com
Use the above to create yourself an email account name.
Then email me to bilbobend@theanonymouse.com, and provide you email name.
We're good to go; I'm expecting BP, MARGE, Ned, Mr.Unknown, et-al, buster, ... bilbo to send email's so you can be added to the invite list, and start posting new subjects. Your on, and 100% anonymous.
Just email me the your anonymous email address, and you'll have FULL BLOG privileges to post your hearts content.
The new site will be bendbubble3.blogspot.com
Phase 3 - 2008 The Dark Years.
Just an update, fuck that https://www.theanonymousemail.com
It isn't accepted by google-blogspot, and I think that's the nicest blogware.
Thus just send me email to bilbobend@gmail.com, and I'll put you on the edit list.
Tim, you should try a hand, and so should marge, ...
Also for Mr. Unmentionable, the best thing is point fwd never use the name associated with bb2 ever again, I hate to lose the simpson characters, I'm sure we can still do that. We'll just have to change roles more often, to keep the Nazis guessing.
So bring it on, send me emails so I can get you on the list.
The new website is
bendbubble3.blogspot.com
To be an editor just send email to
bilbobend@gmail.com
One last comment for today, as I have said for over two years now.
BendBB is Republican Bend Urban Metro-Sexual. Enough said.
Perhaps given that timmy-twat used to be an editor over there, someone in this group should delete the 'outing' thread all together.
BENDBB won, BB2 is dead.
Let's all move on.
The forces of darkness always win, and always have.
Might makes right, dollar talks and bullshit walks.
Honestly marge, your still anon, what you need to do is get off your own lazy ass, and get a blog site going, so folks like homer can come in and be anonymous
problem is, I am no writer, if you haven't noticed, I only write in short sentences, unless of course I have had a bit to drink. Then they tend to run on forever. :)
I don't have access to angry bitch anymore. Bilbo will need to invite me again.
Marge, or anyone else, send an email to
bilbobend@gmail.com
and I'll add you to the list
Marge, remind me to put you on both lists,
It obviously doesn't matter if you can't write, like I already said today.
Your one of more credible sources of information. Given that if we don't understand, we'll ask you.
For now, we just have to take the Eye of Sauron off Mr. Un-Mentionable.
Lastly, marge go over to BENDBB and tell that dog-shit-eater to kill that thread.
( dog-shit-eater is a bend term for cop )
Did anyone even know there were chimps in Bend?
The ones I know about are out in Tumalo on Gerking Market at Leslie Days. She takes care of unwanted chimps.
HBM, What do you think about the idea of allowing a new blog here called 'bendbubble' where people can freely discuss Bend RE, so long as there is no vulgarity??
What the fuck is wrong with vulgarity??
continue at bendbubble3.blogspot.com
Regarding the Shire and the Doctor, the MOB, your comments. If you knew your facts you would find that your off base. So shut the fuck up and let this family put its life back together. These kids just lost their father, and you have an inresponsible and uninformed rant about all of it that people in this small community read. I have actually enjoyed your blog at times but this: like I said Shut the Fuck UP!!!
"There truly is something about Bend that seems to attract people who are so determined to be "optimistic" and "positive" that they become delusional."
True, but that's a recent phenomenon. I think I have an explanation for it: The suckers who came here during the past 10 or 12 years were pulled in by the Chamber of Commerce / COVA bullshit about Bend being "paradise." To fall for that, they had to have been delusional in the first place.
"We in the middle of no where, and no bridge over the cascade is going to make us a 1hr commute to PDX."
How about a bullet train? It would cost billions, but if our local developer/builder/realtor lobby can figure out a way to make Bend taxpayers pay for it, it could happen.
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