Sunday, February 15, 2009

Barack "100 cents on the Dollar" Obama Will Save Us All

Sometimes it's good to remember how something Bad Got Started, so you can figure out how to stop it.

At some point, back in the 70's (80's?, 60's?), we started getting little applications in the mail. It was actually the norm to have only one credit card way back when, like it was the norm to have 1 TV or 1 car or 1 house.

Then people started applying for another. And things still seemed OK. You could get more stuff, and paying 3% on 2 cards with $1,000/ea was not the end of the World. It was actually nice, you didn't have such a rigid connection between earning & spending. People could bridge the gap on the odd occasion when they actually lost their job.

But saving became a little less important. And there was this strange creeping feeling that we weren't spending real money. I got my first credit card when I was fairly young, and I certainly remember that feeling.

Pretty soon though, the urge to save pretty much went away. The urge to spend increased with each new application filled out, and new plastic arriving in the mail became something of an expected ritual. In fact, those applications started to feel like income.

And things NEVER got worse because of this. People seemed happier. In fact a whole generation of people base their happiness on consumption. They don't even know it. I'll show an illustration in a bit.

So things seemed to get eternally better. More jobs. More income. More stuff. Every indulgence indulged, every craving sated.

Then, round about 5-10 years ago this credit-fueled industrial complex began engaging in some practices that seemed great, but they ultimately sowed the seeds of economic destruction:

  • We started putting unqualified borrowers in homes.
  • We started accepting nothing down on a home.
  • We started lying to put them in a home.

See, we did this with those credit card app's, right? Sure! Who hasn't hit hard times, got a CC app, and lied to get one, and bridge the gap? Or, maybe you just wanted another card, because you could get money at near 0%, and if you inflated your income, you'll be eligible for a buttload of extra cards, right? And the credit card companies NEVER CHECKED!

It was become standard issue to LIE on credit applications. So when they began Securitizing Mortgage Loans, it became OK TO LIE. Why not? They were going to sell the loan to someone, who was going to sell it again, ad nauseum. And this scheme was working out great! Everyone got a little slice of the action, and foreclosures, price declines, joblessness, and other such nasties had Never Been A Problem Before.

So we had historical evidence on our side. We had a booming economy on our side. We had rock-bottom defaults validating these practices. Everything was peachy.

So what did we have, circa 2005-2006? We had an incredible over-abundance of homes. An overabundance of cars. Overabundance of clothing, computers, food, carpet, factories, businesses. An over-abundance of JOBS. Yes. Most of the jobs created in the 5-10 years prior to The Boom, are artificial. They really are not meant to be.

The credit was not meant to be. The consuming was not meant to be. So the jobs & businesses behind them are not meant to be. We've had quite artificially low unemployment for a good decade. Go to Wal-Mart: Look at the troglodytes working & shopping there; those people should be kept in trailer parks, away from the rest of humanity.

And Yes,I went there yesterday. And on a Sat afternoon, I have never seen the parking lot so empty. EVER.

So lots of the stuff lying around you right now, is probably from a place whose existence is predicated on demand about 30% higher than it is right now.

So the upshot is that demand & spending need to crash for equilibrium to be reached. Unemployment goes way up. Lots of factories shut down. Demand just goes away, and simple economics of supply & demand reassert themselves, and prices fall.

As I said Long Long Ago: The only way to pay off debts is to sell stuff or make more money.

The "make more money" option is being lost at a clip of about 50,000 jobs/day. That leaves Selling Stuff.

Selling houses. Selling toys. Selling cars. Selling computers. Selling everything. And not just re-selling house, or re-selling computers: Builders have crushing debts & need to build & sell more homes. Dell has factory capacity that costs them when idle. Airlines. Flea markets. Garage sales. GM. Banks. Home sellers. All have product that must go.

We have a FLOOD of stuff from ALL CORNERS... and no one can buy it.

So along comes The Stimulus Package. That'll set it right... right?

Well, the first slug of the bank bailout billions is out there, and guess what? The Banks Are Not Loaning. Gee, I wonder Why?

Oh....right, right, right, right, right. Cuz they have TRILLIONS in bad loans on their books. Now they can do one of a few things.

They can go into the Free Market and SELL THESE LOANS, and realize essentially that they are insolvent. The banking system in the USA is technically INSOLVENT RIGHT NOW. If they realized the losses, the CEO-pay gravy train is over & Disgraced Idiot Era begins. Is it any wonder they are not doing this?

And really, why do this, when Obama, Our Lord & Savior, Has Promised that he'll Make It Right.
Father Barack "100 Cents on the Dollar" Obama

This brings up Option 2: Wait to be bailed out. Wait for TARP money that you can stick in the vault. Don't even have to worry about bad loans, or realizing the losses, cuz Barack gonna make it all all right.

"We gonna get that TARP money!"

So the bailout, and it's promise of making us all whole again, has actually exacerbated & prolonged the problem. Every bank in the country is waiting to accept & BANK their piece of the trillions. Ain't gonna lend it, that's for damn sure. Fool me once...

So we are caught in a deflationary spiral. Lots of people are looking out the Side Window, and telling us, "NO! We're Not In A Depression! Now Deflation seems to precede, cause & exacerbate a Depression, but we ain't in a Depression. Look. Out the side window. We're just in a rapidly deteriorating Deflation. There's really No Way To Know what lies ahead. Sure, about 99.9999999% of the time, deflation leads to Implosion, but we can't be sure! So all we can really do is Hope For The Best. And plan for the best. And start that new handbag store, despite the complete failure of the last one".

Stock slaughter

For equities, a sustained period of deflation is widely seen as a disaster By Alistair Barr, MarketWatch

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- As 2009 began, U.S. dairy farmers slaughtered more than 70,000 cows in one week to fight slumping prices.

Herds are being culled at the fastest rate in almost two decades as the recession withers away consumers' demand for everything from frothy cappuccinos at Starbucks.

In January alone, milk and cheese prices plunged by at least one-third.
Similarly painful adjustments are playing out around the world as companies try to slash production and cut jobs in the face of falling demand and waning pricing power.

The problem is that, as more companies hunker down, demand may weaken further, spurring another wave of downward pressure on prices that would usher in a prolonged period of deflation.


"The combination of credit-crunch deflation and recession is forcing companies to conserve cash by firing workers and slashing capital spending," said investment strategist Ed Yardeni. "That should work for one company, but when they all do it, it just exacerbates the situation by cutting demand all over again."


Many investors believe that a lengthy bout of deflation is unlikely.

But if consumer prices do indeed fall for a long time, the result is likely to be a disaster for much of the stock market, investment professionals say.


Investors could minimize their losses in stocks -- and maybe even capitalize a little on the situation -- by paring their portfolios of the most vulnerable assets while steering toward sectors that are more resilient to a deflation wave.


Companies that may suffer less include those with costs that fall more than the price of their products, such as Dean Foods, and firms that help consumers save money, like Wal-Mart Stores and McDonald's Corp.
But many sectors including banks, metals companies, retailers and manufacturers would likely be crushed by sustained deflation. "Sometimes an entire asset class is not a good idea," said Kevin Harrington, chief economist at San Francisco-based Clarium Capital.

Clarium, which runs a $2.24 billion global macro hedge fund, is avoiding stocks, while betting on gains in the U.S. dollar, which Harrington describes as "implicitly a deflationary trade."

No global macro hedge funds were bullish on U.S. equities, according to a survey in early February by consulting firm Greenwich Associates.

That was down from 46% in January and 62% in December.
The lowest level of interest in U.S. stocks before that was 8% in October 2007, just before the Standard & Poor's 500 index began a 45% slump.

"It's not a question of if. Deflation is upon us," said John Brynjolfsson, chief investment officer at Armored Wolf LLC, a global macro hedge fund in Aliso Viejo, Calif. "It's a question of how bad it will get."

Steven Bell, a former Deutsche Bank economist who runs a global macro hedge fund at London-based GLC Ltd., has been betting against, European and Japanese stocks, while buying two-year German government bonds.


"Deflation is a serious threat," he said. "You have to say that all companies would lose in such an environment, but some would lose less than others."


In contrast to equities, deflation typically boosts long-term government bonds because their fixed payments become more valuable as the price of goods and services fall. See feature on deflation and the bond market.

Japan


When Japan suffered its most severe bout of deflation, from October 2000 through January 2003, only one sector of the nation's stock market -- electric power and gas shares -- posted gains, according to Morgan Stanley.


Shares of non-ferrous metals producers, communications, banks and services companies dropped more than 60% during the period.
And there's a worrying difference between Japan's experience and the current predicament of the U.S.: The Japanese had lots of savings when the country descended into its deflationary recession, but U.S. consumers are now mired in debt.

"The societal effects were not nearly as dramatic as we're experiencing now in the U.S.," said Brian McAuley, chief investment officer at Sitka Pacific Capital Management LLC. "People had much more to fall back on in Japan, while our consumption is falling dramatically."


McAuley is investing in gold and gold mining companies, while keeping his clients' equity exposure at zero.


He's expecting more stock market losses, with the Standard & Poor's 500 index possibly falling to 650 points, more than 20% below current levels.


Deflation scare trades


Morgan Stanley strategist Ronan Carr recently advised investors to keep most of their money in cash and gold.
Gold is usually considered a good hedge against inflation, rather than deflation.

However, Carr said the precious metal would likely provide protection in either scenario.
Banks should be avoided, partly because deflation increases borrowers' debt in real terms, making it harder for them to repay loans, Carr explained.

Bank stocks in Japan slumped 91% during its long fight with deflation and slumping real estate, according to Goldman Sachs. The KBW Bank Index, which tracks the largest U.S. banks, has dropped roughly 77% since the housing bust began two years ago.

That suggests, in a worst-case scenario, U.S bank shares have another 60% to fall, Goldman analysts warned this week.


Mining companies carrying lots of debt, such as Xstrata , may also be losers because the real value of their interest payments would rise while the prices they can charge for the metals they produce falls, Carr said.


Other so-called cyclical stocks, such as carmakers, should also be avoided, he added.
Relative winners include companies that generate strong cash flow and have little debt.

Industries that have pricing power and are protected from new competition could also survive better. Tobacco companies, drug makers and property and casualty insurers fit those criteria, Carr says.


Already declining


While debate swirls over whether deflation or inflation will emerge over the long term, prices are already falling in the U.S.


The consumer price index fell 1% in October, the most since the Bureau of Labor Statistics began publishing seasonally adjusted prices in 1947. The CPI slumped 1.7% in November, another record, and 0.7% in December.

Morgan Stanley estimates that by July, U.S. consumer prices will have fallen 3% from a year earlier.

Merrill Lynch sees the CPI down by the same amount by the third quarter.
Once falling prices form a trend, it's difficult to reverse, partly because consumers are encouraged to save rather than buy.

That dents demand and sales, potentially inflating companies' inventories and triggering more discounts.
"

Potential buyers realize that they can negotiate even lower prices simply by waiting," Brynjolfsson said.


Fixed debt payments get larger in real terms, which means any credit problems impacting the financial system only get worse, he added.


The auto industry has already been buffeted by deflationary winds.
Most new car purchases are at least partly paid for with loans.

The transaction results in two costs for consumers -- the extra money for the loan and the impact of an asset that begins to lose value the moment it's driven off the lot.


But in a period of deflation, the cost of the loan increases because the debt payments rise in real terms.


The result has been a plunge in new car sales which has pushed U.S. automakers General Motors, Chrysler and maybe even Ford to the brink of bankruptcy.


One carmaker, South Korea's Hyundai, is trying to tackle the problem by letting buyers return vehicles, at no cost in most cases and with no dent on their credit rating, if they lose their job or income within a year.


"That's a direct response to the deflationary psyche of buyers," Brynjolfsson said.
Cutting capacity Airlines performed relatively well last year when their costs fell as oil prices slumped. However, demand for flights started dropping too, pushing ticket prices down 11% from their August high, according to Yardeni Research. "

Airlines benefit when oil prices decline, but they lose if conditions are such that no investment bankers are flying to see their clients," GLC's Bell said. "Space in first class and business class has been dramatically reduced."


Bell was speaking from Kuwait, an oil-rich country which only a year ago was dogged by inflation concerns.
"January is usually very busy, but the Middle East is much quieter this year," he said.

"The hotels are empty and flights are not full."
The parent companies of American Airlines and United Airlines said in January that they would cut capacity further this year to try to halt the decline in airfares.

The retail sector has been particularly hard hit as slumping demand forced many companies to slash prices to whittle down ballooning inventories.


Costco Wholesale Corp., one of the world's largest retailers, sent a shudder through the industry in early February when it issued a big profit warning.

The company said it cut prices aggressively to drive sales, but that took a chunk out of margins.
Eggs and butter prices were chopped 10% to 20% and milk prices were slashed more than 20%, Chief Financial Officer Richard Galanti said. "

Arguably, a good chunk of that is short-term, as long as we don't live in a recession forever and as long as we don't see huge deflation," he added, during a conference call with analysts.
Even luxury retailers have slashed prices.

Saks Inc. cut designer-clothes prices by 70% before the holiday shopping season. Still, the department store operator reported a 24% slump in January sales, partly because shoppers continued to buy sale items, rather than regular-priced merchandise.


"What the sector will have a tough time doing is returning to full-priced business," said Brian Sozzi, an analyst at Wall Street Strategies.

"Consumers are now trained to expect discounts."
Nuts and chips Other companies traditionally considered resilient in recessions have also been hit by deflationary troubles recently.

Kraft Foods, the world's No. 2 food maker, reported a 72% drop in fourth-quarter profit as it struggled to deal with declining food prices.


In January, Kraft was forced to cut prices on its Planters nut snacks after it lost market share. When Kraft raised prices last fall, its rivals didn't.


Technology companies are used to falling prices, but the recent drop in chip prices has been so severe that several companies have suffered.


The price of DRAM, a memory chip commonly used in personal computers, slumped 77% from May to December last year. NAND flash chips, used in cell phones and digital cameras, have fallen 62% in price during the same period, according to iSuppli.


Shares of Micron Technologies, a leading DRAM supplier, dropped 64% last year, while SanDisk, one of the largest NAND flash makers, slumped 71%. Qimonda AG, a big German DRAM maker, went bust in January.


Possible winners


Some companies may benefit from deflation if their costs fall faster than the price of the products they sell.
Take Dean Foods.

The company buys milk from dairy farmers then processes it, distributes it in refrigerated diesel trucks and sells it to grocery stores and other food retailers.
The recent drop in milk prices and a slump in diesel in the past year have cut Dean's costs dramatically.

That's made up for declines in the price of the dairy products it sells, improving profit.
As recently as Wednesday, Dean Foods said that fourth-quarter profit more than doubled and issued a bright forecast for 2009.

Other companies that offer consumers ways to save money may also avoid some of the damaging effects of deflation.
Sitka's McAuley said Wal-Mart may benefit as shoppers become thriftier.

Meanwhile, fast-food giant McDonald's has remained resilient in recent months.
"Companies that provide consumers with the opportunity to save some money and still get fairly good service and products may do OK," Yardeni said.

Even so, Yardeni and McAuley warn, if deflation lingers for a long time, there would be few such examples for investors to consider.


So deflation, and it's attendant terrible side-effects, is here. Prices, demand, and jobs simply go into a self-reinforcing cycle of decline. Easily illustrated by Japan's economic conditions for almost the last 2 decades. Generation Lost.

Japan's reaction was to hope against hope. Still is. Banks STILL hold trillions in NPA over there. They are entering their 3rd decade of Asset Denial. They won't sell or re-price, or otherwise realize these loan losses, as the corporation would cease to exist. The Overhang Continues.

So what are we doing? Surely we aren't following Japan's Bad Example, right?

Ohhhhh, we surely are. Everything possible is being done to avoid realizing losses. Everything possible is being done make it to Barack's Promised Land, where TARP, and other bailout funds flow like water. Everything possible being done to Ride It Out, wait for the bailout some we can bank the money, wait for The Bad Bank to take All Our Bad Loans. Every bank in America made whole again.

Maybe. It's possible. We can certainly print the money.

But The Losses Will Be Recognized. At some Point. By Someone. And that someone is taxpayers. Which seems OK, since it's just us chickens. We made the mess, we'll fix it, we'll be fine.

Actually, this is true in some respects. But what is Really Happening, is that the wealth of this country is being reallocated.

All the banks with bad loans are having their negative net worth made whole.

All the people with foreclosures, are being made whole.

Trillions are being expended to do so. And we are all going to pay. Even those who had NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH CREATING THE PROBLEM.

The Responsible are bailing out the irresponsible. The Good bail out the Bad. The winners are being made to lose.

Did you buy 6 houses by LYING on your mortgage applications at the top of the Bubble mega-froth? Lucky me, I am going to bail you out, because I chose to rent, and not lie, and live within my means.

Citigroup and J.P. Morgan suspend foreclosures

Obama to provide more details about foreclosure prevention plan in Arizona

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Citigroup Inc. and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. on Friday announced that they would temporarily suspend foreclosures, as Washington's debate continued about how to save the U.S. economy and moribund housing market.


In a letter to House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass, J.P. Morgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said that he would set up a three-week moratorium on foreclosures.

Citigroup, in its own statement, said that it would suspend foreclosures until the Treasury plan is finalized.
The announcements by Citigroup and J.P. Morgan come as President Obama prepares to announce more details about his plan to stem home foreclosures in an address on Wednesday in Phoenix, Arizona, according to White House press secretary Robert Gibbs.

The Arizona housing industry has been pounded by the slow economy and the state is now seeing some of the highest foreclosures rates in the country.


The Treasury plans to use $50 billion of the remaining $350 billion in bank-bailout funds for some form of foreclosure-mitigation program, but it has yet to produce details on the subject.

The goal of the program, which is part of a $1.5 trillion financial rescue program, is to help troubled homeowners avoid defaulting on their loans.


The Obama administration is working on a program that would subsidize mortgage payments for troubled homeowners subject to an affordability test, according to reports.

This approach would be different from other assistance programs, because borrowers would go through a standard eligibility test and could be approved before their mortgage becomes delinquent.


Citigroup and J.P. Morgan are responding to a request from Frank, who pressed bankers on Wednesday to voluntarily set up a moratorium on foreclosures until the Treasury Department has put in place a plan to alter mortgages.


In addition to Frank, the Office of Thrift Supervision asked the federal and many state-chartered thrift institutions it regulates to stop foreclosures on owner-occupied homes until the new plan is finalized in the next few weeks.


Frank, in a meeting with reporters on Wednesday, said he expects that more than 90% of banks will halt foreclosures until the program is up and running.

He declined to provide details of what kind of plan he would like to see take place, but he said some principal write-down for troubled borrowers would be a key part of it.


A Treasury staffer said Tuesday that the program could resemble a proposal introduced by Federal Deposit Insurance Chairwoman Sheila Bair that would use funds from the bailout package in a program to help avoid foreclosures.

It is a loss-sharing program between mortgage servicers or investors and the FDIC and deals with loans that fail six months or longer after being modified.


See? Everyone waiting. Everyone going to get bailed out.

In the end, it's so tragic, you just have to laugh. I am, at some point, going to pay higher taxes for the STD's built on the Eastside. I will pay so that mortgage app liars will be bailed out of the lies. I will pay to artificially somehow keep housing prices high, so that I cannot afford one. I will pay for being honest and living within my means.

I made a bad choice.

I'll learn next time. I want my bailout money. I want money re-allocated TO ME, not AWAY FROM ME. I will be irresponsible. I'll lie. I will fuck you over to get mine.

This is a great country.

OK, I said earlier I would end with an illustration of almost ridiculous self-indulgence. It comes from the owners of Pomegranate, the failed downtown crap-O-torium. This woman is still blogging, and still just oblivious as shit to the World around her. Check this out:

End of a dream (or two or three)

I miss Merenda. We would have gone there a few weeks ago after closing the doors on our own downtown shop for the last time. Instead, we went home and made a nice little dinner, sat in our pjs, and drank some champagne... to soothe our souls.

Truth is, we hardly ever (never) go out to dinner anymore, which makes us part of the problem for restaurants. It's endemic, this economic situation. Call it trickle down (too lite), ripple effect (better) or smashing tidal wave (apt), but it has affected everyone in one way or another.


When I lived in San Francisco some time ago (and please, no one needs to send an anonymous comment about Califungos
[sic: Cali-Bangers]) I used to frequent the wonderful Farmer's Market at Ferry Plaza, just like I frequent our wonderful Farmer's Market at Mirror Pond here in Bend.

Back then, the Ferry building wasn't yet refurbished into the foodie heaven it is now, but once a month or so, local restaurants would set up tented booths and cook up a storm for shoppers. At that time, Jody Denton owned Lulu's (south of Market area), one of the restaurants represented at the market. I didn't know him then, but clearly remember standing in line for a soft shell crab sandwich, and going crazy over the amazing taste and texture of it. A bunch of people around me announced (to no one in particular) that it was so good they were getting back in line to get another one.

Sometimes a meal is memorable like that, even if it's eaten standing up in a converted parking lot with seagulls and pigeons swooping around, hoping for a bite. We were happy when Merenda opened. It was hugely ambitious, and all the buzz about how it could sustain itself seemed to dissipate when year after year, it just kept succeeding.

Until the financial crash. I really liked going there, and maybe this post is more about post-mortem support than anything else, but some of the blog posts I've read bothered me in their analysis of why they went down.

Truth is, everyone has a different experience at different restaurants, and some of it depends on the day, time of day, mood of the servers, who's cooking, and who's sitting next to you. There are lots of good restaurants here, and you'll get a different critique of them from everyone you talk to. And no observer will really know the details of why a restaurant – or any business – falls apart.

All I know is the restaurant business has to be a crazy scary venture: more intense and problematic and potentially disastrous than anything you can do in retail.
I'm glad another group is giving it a go: the space is fabulous and, I think, the anchor of downtown. It's good that some of the Merenda employees are going to get their jobs back.

And I'm glad that Jody has another job lined up in Sydney. But I'm very sad that they had to go bankrupt in the process. No one wants to see that for a young family. Or anybody.
We were there on their last night, and I shed a few tears as we left (oh yeah, lots of raw emotion these last few months).

Jody and Michelle are sure to land on their feet again, and the restaurant will reincarnate itself (empty spaces downtown will get filled: it will just be different).

It just hit me as the end of a dream, a vision. Not just theirs, but ours as well (knowing we'd be soon closing our downtown location), and soon, others.
This is what I crave right now: that lemon rotisserie chicken. Maybe with an indulgent side of tempura green beans, followed up with an order of insanely delicious beignets. Call the medics.

I mean, this gal sounds like she's very nice. But, if you read this post closely, and in the context of someone who has just Closed Down A Failed Luxury Handbag Shop, you just have to wonder What The Fuck Is She Thinking?

She even has the barest self-awareness to know that Cali-Bangers are the most LOATHED species on Earth. But even so, she almost defines Happiness by the Quality of Her Consumption. I almost feel bad for this person. How many authentic moments has she had in her life? I mean she describes herself as a "Shopping Monkey" on her blog.

It's actually just sad. And still, she is probably almost broke, and all she can do is reminisce about consuming. And you see this as a common thread in almost everything listed on BendBlogs.com. 95% of all posts are of an almost completely selfish nature: "Why I like/eat/do/dislike/buy/avoid/think about 'X'".

Well, I better wrap this up, so hbm can take a nappy pie.
I love deflation! My back is killing me!

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IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

PBM ( psychotic bowel movement )

I wish I had a cool nickname. Mine is now BUTTER, from the semi-cool commercial. Thanks Timmy.

PSYCHOTIC BOWEL MOVEMENT has Zazz! Pow! Zing! Zoinks!

tim said...

Hey, people love Butter. Could be worse.

Anonymous said...

Timmy is Apu, Butter is Homer, Marge is Marge, and buster is bart, ...

What's wrong?

BP is the krusty the clown, ...

Lava-Beer is Barney, homer's drinking buddy, and the guy that always falls for barts jokes.

HBM is Smithers,

Anonymous said...

HBM aka Smithers can't figure out if he's working for Costa, Chandler, or Switzer, or Hollern, or Smith, or Moss, but who cares? Right? Nothing is real!!

Anonymous said...

HOMER WALLACE of Bend Yell's ...

Lower your flags and march straight back to England, stopping at every home you pass by to beg forgiveness for a hundred years of theft, rape, and murder. Do that and your men shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will die today.

*

Homer, I mean that is SOME HEAVY SHIT. I think that this metaphore should be tattoed on Bruces Major-Labia, so that LB can read it ever fucking day.

So, what would be the equivalent??

Hollern: "Good people of Bend. I stand before you humbled during my end times ( being over 70 ). I live in Terrible Times. Our 'Exceptional' seems to stand out. Well I'll get to the point, cuz I'm a real town talking to a 'non-real' people. We're broke, we're finished the town is Kaput. Now we all made a lot of money in the last ten years, tons of money, and we all supported the Bulletin. We all got rich flipping Real Estate. You wouldn't be dumb, fat, and rich today sitting on your fucking internet if not for me. Go to every home in BEND tonight, and tell your neighbors that your town is a fraud, that you are a fraud and your church is a fraud. Do that and the Republican Party will bless thee for 1,000 years. Do it not, and you shall all inherit the wrath of the entire USA, where all heads turn to Bend, Oregon as the sleaziest parasitic town in the USA."

Anonymous said...

I was googling "Bend oregon Morons", and we're #1.... but I googled "Bend oregon Paradise" and hit NWXC...

Northwest Crossing: About Bend - Paradise discovered...and it's ...
Paradise discovered...and it's called Bend, Oregon. northwest-crossing-bend.jpg Located in the arid high desert region of Central Oregon, Bend is home to ...
www.northwestcrossing.com/Bend_Oregon_Real_Estate/Our_Community/About_Bend/

Anonymous said...

High School Mascot or Dildo?

The volcanic history of Central Oregon has left monuments above and below the surface of the Earth.

Hundreds of subterranean lava tubes can be found throughout the High Desert. The highest concentration of lava tubes can be found along the slopes of Newberry Caldera.

About 150,000 years ago, flowing lava from Newberry Caldera created the snaking tube known as Skeleton Cave.

The discovery of animal bones in the cave gave the tube its name. An extinct bear skeleton discovered in the cave came to be nicknamed the "Lava Bear," which now lives on as the mascot of Bend High School.

Anonymous said...

LAVA SAID...
What you've never met Todd Taylor?

Touche Lava, touche!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

CACB: $1.30, DOWN 13% THIS MORNING

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I smell a few FDIC takeovers this Friday... unless there are no takers, then poor little Bend will lose it's flagship bank.

MossCo: Bust out that resume.

Anonymous said...

Paradise discovered...and it's called Bend, Oregon.

Enough to gag a fucking maggot.

I hope all the delusional idiots in NWX and elsewhere in our lovelt "paradise" are enjoying another day of fucking FREEZING FOG.

I can tell ya, for anybody with allergies and sinus problems, Bend, with its incredible pollen counts and constant swings of barometric pressure, ain't paradise -- it's fucking HELL.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I think we'll see GM go BK this wk or next... Chrysler too.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

CACB:

From $900 mill market cap to $36 mill.

Good job Moss.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The closing of EnVogue & Made in Hawaii made the Bully today.

That Made in Hawaii was about the most ill-conceived retail idea I've ever heard. The original was started up by a Hawaiian dude... forgot his name... who also sold window blinds. That store sucked his other business dry, till he finally unloaded that loser on someone with Bend Exceptional Starz in their eyes.

Anonymous said...

HBM Said...
...can tell ya, for anybody with allergies and sinus problems, Bend, with its incredible pollen counts and constant swings of barometric pressure, ain't paradise -- it's fucking HELL.

I wish he'd figured that out twenty years ago and saved us all from his constant pontificating.

Bewert said...

Not only those two downtown, but Sweetheart Donuts, too. Bend gone.

I'll try to get that picture of the foundation in paradise later if the fog lifts.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Bank Foreclosures vs. Short Sales

end Oregon Bank foreclosures continue to be the best buys on the market. There were 41 Bank owned homes sold in Bend over the last 90 days vs 32 short sales. The average price per square foot was $115.11 for foreclosures and $138.10 for short sales. Regular owner sales sold at $139.29 a square foot.

There is no good reason to get tied up in a short sale. They take from 2-6 months to close if they ever close. Buyers have the false hope that the bank will approve a short sale at a really low price. The numbers show that is not the case. In fact regular owner sales averaged $139.29 a square foot.

My son/partner Matt Johnson had an offer in on a short sale for a client along with 4 other offers. The bank refused all offers and they are now foreclosing. Sometimes the bank won’t allow a short sale because of the financial position. Short sales are a waist of time! Bank foreclosures are the way to go! There are currently 114 bank owned homes for sale in Bend

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I'd agree with this dude, short sales are a frustrating clusterfuck of constantly getting jerked around.

Never, EVER bid on that shit. Wait till foreclosure, and then knock 25-40% off the short sale price.

Bewert said...

Corrections
Published: February 17. 2009 4:00AM PST

In a story headlined “Former owner of Merenda and Deep leaves country — and unpaid debts,” which appeared Sunday, Feb. 15, on Page A1, a description of Jody and Michelle Denton’s bankruptcy was unclear. The Dentons listed the estimated claims of their creditors, who may or may not have filed a claim against them. Additionally, it wasn’t clear that Denton’s full legal name is Jett Olen Denton.

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Maybe they could correct Keith Chu's assertion that 60, not 260, NODs were filed in Januuary while they are at it.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Actually we may have all the US car makers do a trifecta of BK's soon.

They're all doomed, and their "Rescue Plans" are sure to be full of crap.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

CACB: $1.11, DOWN 25% THIS MORNING

Hello FDIC Regulators!

LavaBear said...

>>>They're all doomed, and their "Rescue Plans" are sure to be full of crap.

You know right now I think "full of crap" is the way to go. It's what's working at the moment.

Bewert said...

One more before I go, one very important to what makes a nice town nice, or if it turns into shithole:

Budget crunch puts squeeze on Bend Police

In Focus: Public Services
By Erin Golden / The Bulletin
Published: February 17. 2009 4:00AM PST

As the city of Bend gears up to put together its budget for the next two years, Bend Police Chief Sandi Baxter is watching closely.

Though Baxter’s department has avoided layoffs in a year when other city departments have shrunk significantly, it hasn’t been immune to the impacts of the slumping economy. As Bend’s revenues have dwindled, the department has had to leave four positions empty and hold off on upgrading and replacing equipment like patrol cars, among other cost-saving measures.

Officials say the recent economic downturn is only part of the problem; over the last several years, as Bend’s population grew, the number of police officers working in the city didn’t increase at the same rate.

But now, with the budget crunch continuing, the department is in a particularly tough spot. With fewer officers and a growing demand for services, Baxter said police are no longer able to respond to some low-level crimes in the way they once did — and could have to cut back even more in the future.

“We’re not entirely there, but we’re heading toward that area where all we can do is respond and take calls, and a police department should be more than that,” she said. “We are supposed to be the community protectors, and that’s more than just arresting people and throwing them in jail.”

Most of the department’s $17.3 million budget comes from Bend’s general fund, which also pays for fire services, public transit and other expenses. The general fund is largely driven by property taxes, which can only go up by 3 percent each year and have flatlined because of the building slowdown.

City Manager Eric King said officials have worked to maintain public safety services despite the budget pressures.

But because it costs more every year to pay for everything from police officers’ health insurance to fuel for police cars, it’s not an easy task.

“It definitely is a structural problem within the general fund, given that 80 percent of the general fund goes to police and fire ... When the growth has stopped in the city of Bend, we don’t have our property taxes that make up the majority of (the) general fund — that revenue is not keeping pace with expenditures,” King said.

Bend now has 1.06 police officers for every 1,000 residents, down from 1.58 per 1,000 in 1994, Baxter said. To reach the state average of 1.4 officers per 1,000 residents, she said the department would have to hire another 30 officers.

Currently, Baxter said, the department has 86 sworn officers. She said she’d be happy with just seven more. But given the city’s financial situation, Finance Director Sonia Andrews said it’s more likely the department’s budget for the next two years will remain close to where it is now — which means Bend could have to make do with the same number of officers it has now to deal with the estimated 56,000 calls that come through the department’s dispatch center every year.

Including calls initiated by officers, Baxter said, the department responded to a total of 96,000 calls last year.

And over the last year, she said, the city has seen a slight increase in crimes that typically require more than one officer.

“What we’re seeing now is an increase in assault, an increase in child abuse, in elder abuse, in reports of assaults that involve weapons and domestic (assaults),” she said.

As a result, Baxter said, the department might have to continue cutting back on some services so it can keep responding to more serious crimes. Already, police have stopped going out on some calls, including those involving minor traffic accidents.

“Several years ago, we would respond to and take a report on every accident in the city, and if there’s a dispute, we still respond or if there’s significant damage and if there’s a crime involved, like a DUII or reckless driving,” Baxter said. “But if it’s a minor accident that occurs in say, the Safeway parking lot, we just request that the parties exchange information.”

With fewer officers on hand to respond to calls, Baxter said the department now also holds off on sending an officer to look into some reports of vandalism, neighborhood problems and small-scale thefts.

In the long run, officials said they worry that not responding to things that seem minor could have a big effect on quality of life.

“We know a great deal of Bend’s economy is driven by tourism and if we get to the point where the small, what we call the broken-window crimes, aren’t taken care of, it has a significant impact on if people want to come to Bend,” said police Capt. Jim Porter.

Baxter said a tighter budget could mean that the department would cut back on officers designated to patrol potential problem areas, like downtown Bend during the summer. And in the worst-case scenario, the department could have to cut back on some of its special divisions, like K-9 units or the SWAT team, if it couldn’t pay for required training.

Baxter said major cuts aren’t likely anytime in the near future, but said there’s not much wiggle room left in the budget.

King said public safety services will likely be a hot topic as the City Council considers the biennial budget, which will be approved in June.

“We always look for efficiencies, what we can do to be smart with taxpayer dollars,” King said. “But at some point, we get to a point where we’re operating pretty thin. That’s the choice before council — looking at the budget, and (determining) what service level is acceptable.”

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Moss, your last official act as CEO should be to refill the toner in the copier, and start busting out a shitload of resumes, cuz the FDIC is on their way...

Hurry. Like right fucking now.

Bewert said...

Ford should make it. Chrysler and GM are not looking good. But they haven't been for a while.

And gas prices seem to be climbing again.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

In the long run, officials said they worry that not responding to things that seem minor could have a big effect on quality of life.

“We know a great deal of Bend’s economy is driven by tourism and if we get to the point where the small, what we call the broken-window crimes, aren’t taken care of, it has a significant impact on if people want to come to Bend,” said police Capt. Jim Porter.


Hey now. Wait just one cotton-picking minute! This is starting to sound like a WITCH HUNT TO RAISE SDC CHARGES!

Hold on now!

I think it's pretty clear that the solution to BROKEN WINDOW CRIMES is to build more homes! Replace that old nasty broken window on THAT home, with a BRAND NEW WINDOW on the home across the street.

I think it's clear that quality of life can only really be increased in Bend by BUILDING MORE HOMES.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yeah, sounds stupid.

But you watch. Look who we put on City Council. The Bully 5, and they could give a fuck about anything but building till we all go BK.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Ford should make it.

Share price at $1.68 says different. But it is worth $4bill. GM is closing in on the "hundred millions" moniker, only worth $1.37 bills.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I wanna pitch in and get you hirder somewhere Moss:

Sales/Marketing Cal Nutra (Bend)

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is looking to employ sales and marketing associates.... for our core 4 products
We specialize in weight loss products that target the core of the Body.
Our product is guaranteed and has been clinically proven to reduce calorie in take up to 25%
We are based here in Bend and have a team that is committed to excellence and advancement.
Work are looking for associates with great people skills and who aren't afraid to get out there and tell people about our products, and who are ready to invest in a business and have great rewards for working hard.

Casual Work Pace...
Great pay & Bonus's

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541.979.0080Features

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

OK, I am OFFICIALLY CHANGING MY MIND here, and believe that Bend CAN & WILL BE HELPED, if we find Patty Moss a job.

Her qualifications are drilling the diominant bank franchise of Central Oregon right into the ground, so it's probably best if we avoid financially oriented positions, such as bank teller or mortgage office clean up girl.

Something in highway sign holder, or possibly ditch digging might go well.

C'mon people! We need to pitch in to help our own fellow Bendites!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

FDIC STRIKES!

Has CBBO gone away? Trading seems to have stopped at 7AM PST.

LavaBear said...

>>>Has CBBO gone away?

Bid = N/A
Ask = N/A

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

If you ever wanted to own a piece of CACB, you might cancel "super sizing" that Big Mac & buy a few shares, cuz that bad boy may well be gone soon.

Anonymous said...

CBBO is back. Must have been a hiccup.

1.11
-0.04 (-3.48%)
Real-time: 12:28PM EST

Anonymous said...

Another #1 Orygun story, and of course BEND is the epicenter

Oregon #1 Failure in USA

Joel Kotkin, 02.17.09, 12:00 AM EST
Hard times for business and real estate out West.

There is something about Oregon that ignites something close to poetic inspiration, even among the most level-headed types. When I asked Hank Hoell recently about the state, he waxed on about hiking the spectacular Cascades, the dreamy coastal towns and the rich farmlands of the green Willamette Valley.

"Oregon," enthused Hoell, president of LibertyBank, the state's largest privately owned bank, from his office in Eugene, "is America's best-kept secret. If quality of life matters at all, Oregon has it in spades. It is a good as it gets. It's just superb."
As developer Shelly Klapper, a rare skeptic in the Beaver State, reminded me: "This is a state that buys it's own hype."

Hype or not, however, Oregon is hurting--something that's clear to even the most self-respecting narcissist. Over the past year, Oregon's economy has fallen off a cliff just about as fast as any state in the union.

A year ago, things seemed very different. Sunbelt boom states like California, Arizona and Nevada were already heading into deep recession, but green Oregon seemed oddly golden. Both its small cites and one big town, Portland, were outperforming the national norms. Oregonians saw their state as better--not only in terms of green and good, but also in terms of basic job growth.

But since last winter, Oregon's unemployment rate has soared from barely 5.5% to well over 8%, the sixth worst in the nation. Indeed, according to a recent projection by the University of California at Santa Barbara (UCSB), Oregon's jobless rate could reach close to 10% by the end of the year.

Well into 2010, Oregon's overall economy will shrink more rapidly than the nation's as a whole, notes UCSB forecaster Bill Watkins. He traces a sharp downturn there to many factors, including one of the toughest regulatory regimes in North America.
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In tough times, companies generally expand in localities that are are friendly to commerce--say, states like Texas or nearby Idaho. Few would rate Oregon highly in that regard.

"Oregon is mostly a place that focuses on the enjoyment of its space, and that makes [it] very vulnerable in these conditions," Watkins says.

The other big problem has to do with a lack of economic diversity. Oregon has been through tough times before. For much of its history, the state's economy depended largely on harvesting its vast forests. Then, in the 1980s, the state developed a green bug, and decided it shouldn't chop down Mother Nature for a living.

In the ensuing decade, Oregon pioneered tough land-use regulations, curbing industries that relied on forest products and declaring war on suburban sprawl. Its main city, Portland, became the poster child of the "smart growth" movement by forcing up density, building an extensive light-rail system and restoring its urban core.

Although widely praised, these stringent regulations also drove up land prices and, ironically, prompted many middle-class residents to move away, including across the border into Washington. Businesses, rather than cluster in the state's core, continued to migrate to the outer rings; in the relatively healthy year of 2005, for example, barely 10% of Portland's office space growth took place in the central district.

"We give lip service to the economy here," admits Klapper, a longtime Portland entrepreneur and a former official with the Port of Portland. "But, really, business is not a priority here."

For a while, Klapper notes, the tech sector seemed to offer the solution. In the '80s and '90s, chip makers fleeing even higher costs in California flooded into Oregon, which was proudly dubbed the "Silicon Forest." In an unusual move, the state provided tax breaks to the chip makers, which helped. The state's suburbs also proved attractive to tech workers who could afford a far better quality of life there, in terms of schools and housing, than they could in the Golden State.

But as regulations tightened and costs to businesses and families increased, even the high-tech industry began to fade. Always a political bellwether state, Oregon has moved inexorably left, increasingly dominated by both its public sector and the particularly strong green movement. Semiconductor expansion soon started to go south--or in this case, further east (to Idaho) or across the Pacific to Asia.

Only one thing remained to drive the economy: housing. A torrent of Californians were heading north--cashing out of the overpriced Bay Area, Sacramento and Los Angeles--and buying new homes in Oregon. Some sophistos sashayed their way into trendy places like Portland's Pearl District, but many others looked to the charming smaller towns of the Willamette Valley and central Oregon.

"When all else failed, it was people moving here that kept us going," says Klapper, who was a major investor in the Pearl District renaissance. "California became our biggest industry."

This dependence turned into a debilitating addiction. When in 2007, the great California housing bubble collapsed, the inflow of people and dollars dropped off. Meanwhile, the remnants of lumber industry fell victim to the housing bust.

Nowhere are the effects of this clearer than in Bend, a spectacular town of 75,000 located amid volcanic peaks in the center of the state. Californians had considered Bend a favorite spot for second homes and relocation. About a year ago, notes real estate appraiser Steve Pistole, prices were rising 2% a month, while those in Portland were "only" rising 8% a year.

But to visit Bend now is to be in the eye of housing hurricane, with nearly deserted housing tracts, woefully empty hotels and residential second-home developments. Unemployment in the housing arena, according to the UCSB, could reach 15% next year.

We can also expect a further slide in housing prices. Oregon's bubble, notes analyst Wendell Cox, inflated later than California's, so prices, which have dropped more than 10% in the last year, could fall by that much or more in the next.

Yet despite all these problems, many Oregonians remain optimistic. Some of this seems, at least fundamentally, a reflection of ideology. The inevitable huge surge of "green jobs" promised by the Obama administration has long been an article of faith in the state; it seems something like a story we'd tell our children to put them to sleep. State officials, for example, speak wistfully of replacing a recently shuttered Korean-owned Hynix chip plant with a facility to make solar panels.

The bad news is this: 49 other states--some of which don't pose such strong regulatory challenges--also hope to bring home some of these green jobs. So if business logic applies, the new factories that manufacture wind turbines, propellers or solar panels will end up in states like North Dakota or Texas, which have been the most successful, thus far, at attracting other manufacturing jobs.

So what trail should Oregon blaze now? Pistole, the real estate appraiser, says it may be time to think small. Places like Bend, he notes, already attract former Silicon Valley veterans who like living close to trout streams, hiking trails and golf courses.

"There is no magic bullet for Oregon," says Pistole, who himself moved from California just three years ago. "But there could be lots of onesies, twosies, mom-and-pops. People still want to live here. We have to make it synergistic to live where you want and still make money. That's the way we need to go."

Some entrepreneurs, like 38-year-old Michael Taus, are already setting up such small shops, some of them in their homes. A recent arrival from Los Angeles, Taus made it big as one of the founders of Rent.com, which was sold to eBay in 2005. He's only lived in Bend for a few months, but he has already launched his own start-up and consults for several other local firms.

Taus believes others of his generation will want to establish businesses in Oregon, lured by both its lifestyle and affordability. Some of the new business may be in software, Taus says, but others could sprout in specialty agriculture, wood products and other industries.

"People are here for a reason. There's a good amount of talent, and you can get more here," he says earnestly. "There's a great potential. We just have to get down to business."

Joel Kotkin is a Presidential Fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University and executive editor of newgeography.com. He is finishing a book on the American future and writes a weekly column for Forbes.

Anonymous said...

Poster child of the "smart growth" movement by forcing up density, building an extensive BAT-BUS system and restoring its urban core.

Although widely praised, these stringent regulations also drove up land prices

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Who could have guessed? Who could have known?

Duncan McGeary said...

So their main source was a guy who's lived here for 3 years and been drinking the kool-aid by the gallon, and a guy who's been in Bend for like, five minutes?

Anonymous said...

"There is no magic bullet for Oregon," says Pistole, who himself moved from California just three years ago.

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To me this is the crux of the story, do they interview HOGGS? Hell NO!! Newbies, might as well be interviewing BP and having him predict Oregon's future.

Oregon always repeats these cycles, and always has, there is nothing new.

But I think the title should be "The HOPE of the Newbie", how newbies can still come to Oregon, and make well, and live in 'paradise'.

So an appraiser moves to Bend, three years ago, and is the spokesperson for Bend's, past and future. Simply amazing.


But to visit Bend now is to be in the eye of housing hurricane, with nearly deserted housing tracts, woefully empty hotels and residential second-home developments. Unemployment in the housing arena, according to the UCSB, could reach 15% next year.

Anonymous said...

So their main source was a guy who's lived here for 3 years and been drinking the kool-aid by the gallon, and a guy who's been in Bend for like, five minutes?

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Shit dunc, glad that you picked that! But remember this is BEND, where three years here makes you an old-timer.

Shit it wasn't 30+ years ago that the sign at the cali border said "Visit, but don't stay". Now they're saying ALL are welcome, that after 5 minutes you'll be embraced as a native. That anybody can start a biz here and sell software, and internet domains and sell them for a fortune to cali high-tech, ...

The real fucking question is how is this appraiser eating? I mean if you do contract for say US-BANK they're busier than hell, but these solo appraisers nobody wants them cuz old-school was UP appraise, and now 'good banks' like US-BANK only use 'inside appraisers' drive-by is GONE!

Anonymous said...

Some entrepreneurs, like 38-year-old Michael Taus, are already setting up such small shops, some of them in their homes. A recent arrival from Los Angeles, Taus made it big as one of the founders of Rent.com, which was sold to eBay in 2005. He's only lived in Bend for a few months, but he has already launched his own start-up and consults for several other local firms.

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Another 'feeder' I hope he brought lots of 'cash', cuz he ain't going to find any here.

I think these storys are great, that 'paradise' has hit bottom, and any moron can come to Bend, and start a business, that you are considered 'smart' to start-up a home biz in Bend. Taus has only been here a few months, and already making a fortune!!

Let's hope he got lots of CASH on rent.com, and spends it all @ dunc's comic-shop.

Ok, that said, during the last 'collapse' of post 1981+ in Orygun, it was a great time to startup biz, especially high-tech, but honestly we just saw 30+ years of high-tech easy money that fueled the high-tech bubble, especially PC that went from 1983->2000, I really think that 'entrepreneurial-ism' is going to be much harder than the 80's in the 80's you just had to know your shit, like mitch kapor used to say 'all you need is a garage, and $1M for marketing".

Anonymous said...

So their main source was a guy who's lived here for 3 years and been drinking the kool-aid by the gallon, and a guy who's been in Bend for like, five minutes?

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But this story is in FORBES dunc, so it main-stream, which means that all assertions are 100% factual.

Anonymous said...

DEBATE?

What about this 'entrepreneur' thing?? Even Google is slowing and laying off, MS, ...

The PC sales has collapse, just today I saw that Verizon has come out with a $5/mo cell phone plan!! Shit we now have Asian pricing for wireless!!

Prices are fucking collapsing. Thirty years ago computers were expensive, nobody had them except BIG company's and government then the PC-AT went boom in 1983 and the 'first' made a bundle of loot, but now Mexico, Russia, China, ... everybody has PC's, everybody has 'programmers' so fucking what. Everybody has web-apps in Chennai or Mumbai, ... anybody in eastern-EU can get a PC and internet and add value, so fucking what?

What can the KIDS really do these days for new start-ups?? OH yea, myspace, facebook, ... another social-website, ...

Sure you can start a biz, any idiot can start a biz, but 'survival' that is the KEY, its what me & dunc always write about, can you survive and build a biz 10, 20, 30 years, ... any idiot can start a biz, and blow his was in BEND, and then move, so what??

In the 70's or 80's if you knew Computer-Sci you could write your own ticket, today good luck finding a job. There are no new killer HW paradigms other than CELL-PHONES, but look $5/mo plans, and all SW is near free, ... That's not a fucking biz model.

What's it really going to be?? Don't get me wrong, I'm done, but I'm quite curious. Most people 'I know' in BEND are doing GAME-SW permutations, but even that genre is getting hit by the econ.

Anonymous said...

Yet despite all these problems, many Oregonians remain optimistic. Some of this seems, at least fundamentally, a reflection of ideology.

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Yes, I'm highly optimistic long-term.

Yes, ... we still have a lot going for us in ORYGUN.

1.) We got water. Well at least until Resnick ( suterra ) owns it.

2.) We got environment, well at least until they destroy metolius, ...

3.) We got no racial strife, .e.g. there ain't no colored folk brw/blk in orygun. Well that could change in a few generations, but for the next 40 yrs orygun will continue to be white.

So with most of the USA's water table gone, #1 make orygun good, and #2 is still hot, for people, esp young educated people, but they're moving to PDX, not FUCKING BEND, you DRIVE to bend on the weekend, but you live and work in PDX.

Then there is #3 the BIG-ONE, most of the USA, esp now with 25% un-employment and riots, and 25% white un-emp, means 90% black/mex un-employed. ORGUN is going to look like one big fucking 'gated community' to the fuckers with money elsewhere.

So I'm highly optimistic about ORYGUN, note I didn't say BEND, or CENT-OR, I said ORYGUN.

Anonymous said...

"There is no magic bullet for Oregon," says Pistole, who himself moved from California just three years ago.

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It all depends.

ORYGUN was always about the individual, it was one of the last self-sufficient states.

We just had the 150 yr state celeb last saturday, orygun birthday.

Settlers, came to orygun, tough old bastards like our marge, that could hunt, and live off the land.

Oregon WILL ALWAYS be good to those who are self-sufficient, its the fucking 'learned helpless' parasitic whiners that get fucked by ORGYUN.

'Magic Bullet' that's OREO's mantra of the day, the magic-nigger says there is no magic bullet, of course not! It's always been everybody for themselves. There is no magic tooth-fairy that's going to line your fucking pillow.

Like todays report on Stimulus of $800B, OREGON gets $1.5B, or 0.2% whoopeeee I have talked about this for months how ORYGUN wouldn't get shit, yet we carried the fucking OREO!!!! and we still get shit, where's it going?? CALI... That's ok, cali is our feeder, so we'll see lots of cali fat-cats blowing their 'stimulus' was on 2nd homes in orygun.

Anonymous said...

Obama stimulus goal: 44,000 Oregon jobs

Goal Oregon Jobs: 44,000
Goal California Jobs: 396,000

2008 Oregon Population: 3,790,060
2008 Californa Population: 36,756,666

Oregon Goal Jobs / Person: 1.2%
California Goal Jobs / Person: 1.1%

Anonymous said...

"Oregon," enthused Hoell, president of LibertyBank, the state's largest privately owned bank, from his office in Eugene, "is America's best-kept secret. If quality of life matters at all, Oregon has it in spades. It is a good as it gets. It's just superb."
As developer Shelly Klapper, a rare skeptic in the Beaver State, reminded me: "This is a state that buys it's own hype."


LOL! Great smackdown. And SOOOOoooo true. I've never lived in a place where the people love to praise themselves and their state so much. Everything in Oregon is "the best" (according to Oregonians): The coast, the mountains, the forests, the rivers, the recreation, the education system, the arts and culture, the climate, the beer (well, maybe they're right about the beer). And on and on and on ad nauseam.

Which begs the question: Whom are they trying to convince?

Anonymous said...

Who is going to be the first under $1? CBBO or CACB?

CBBO:
1.09
-0.06 (-5.23%)
Real-time: 2:11PM EST

CACB:
1.12
-0.37 (-24.83%)
Real-time: 2:35PM EST

CBBO is lower, but CACB having 25% loss today....

Anonymous said...

Which begs the question: Whom are they trying to convince?

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Just drink more beer, and you'll see the light.

But like I have said 1000X times, NEVER come to ORYGUN, without having already made your money.

I remember the first thing my 'dad' said when I told him I was moving to Oregon, back in the 60's he said "Oregon (Portland) has NEVER been a working mans town", yeh I know I replied, I didn't intend to 'work'.

Much of the USA sucks, but if you have money, Oregon is a good place to 'play' and setup a base-camp,

But god forbid the poor numb-nut dim-twits that move here with the clothes on their back, expecting to make something of themselves, if they hadn't already done that somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Obama stimulus goal: 44,000 Oregon jobs


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Did you read the stimulus bill? Did you read the defn of a 'job' under the stimulus bill?

tim said...

>>"buys it's own hype"?

Did they really use the wrong its? Sigh.

>>Michael Taus

So the guy that's been here for a couple months is still an optimist on Bend. I would have thought a couple WEEKS would have fixed that.

Anonymous said...

As developer Shelly Klapper, a rare skeptic in the Beaver State, reminded me: "This is a state that buys it's own hype."

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Not sure if anyone really believes the hype, but look at Bend, the few people with jobs work city, county, state, e.g. public, ... or COVA, COBA, CORA, or BULL, or BROOKS, or JEW-WELD, ... if your not sharing the kool-aide and spreading the word your a fucking PARIAH in this town/state.

It used to be a badge of honor to say "visit, but don't stay", now its a badge of honor to throw roses on the streets of Bend for incoming Cali's.

My how times have changed.

Given that the few jobs created in the last ten years were PR&MARKETING jobs, and jobs still paid by the taxpayer, until BEND is BK, we can still expect to hear much PR, and HYPE, and we can expect the BULL/SORE to bless the hype, cuz what is the option?

Of course anybody in the 'known' knows that the HYPE is all BULLSHIT. Just like the exit of DENTON on NewYears EVE, he kept up the hype until the last minute, when he told us he was going to Florida ( boca ) to open a DEEP, and ... maybe payoff the Bend debts, come back someday, ... all the while it turns out his 'family' had bought one-way tickets to Sydney, Australia.

Who would have guessed??

Take away our HYPE and what do we have?

A washed up all resource extraction high-desert town that long ago had all its resource extracted. We're a TOWN of HYPE, and HYPE is the only thing that keeps the patient alive, but SMART PEOPLE are going to Australia while they're still alive.

Anonymous said...

>>"buys it's own hype"?

Did they really use the wrong its? Sigh.

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How can this be? Its Forbes they can afford Princeton english majors to write their copy.

Anonymous said...

Who could have guessed? Bush was NOT the worst US prez is US history?? Nobody knew, nobody saw this coming.

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Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive as of the end of 2008, according to the survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN. It's only 42 because Grover Cleveland, who served two nonconsecutive terms, is counted twice.

Rated worst overall were, starting at the bottom and moving up: James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison and Warren G. Harding.

Anonymous said...

So the guy that's been here for a couple months is still an optimist on Bend. I would have thought a couple WEEKS would have fixed that.

He hasn't run through the bundle he got from selling his dot.com yet -- give him a few more months.

"The best way to make a small fortune in Bend is to start with a big one." -- Proverb

Anonymous said...

Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive as of the end of 2008, according to the survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN.

I'm not buying it until I find out who the 60 historians polled were. I suspect a lot of them are right-wing think-tankers -- Hoover Institution types etc.

We have had many presidents who were bad in various ways, but no president has been SO bad in SO many ways as Chimpy. He is and always will be DEAD LAST in my ranking.

Anonymous said...

So the guy that's been here for a couple months is still an optimist on Bend. I would have thought a couple WEEKS would have fixed that.

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Well he's smart enough to realize that when your 'interviewed' by the APPROVED main-stream media, by a legit reporter, that you got to be POSITIVE.

Like the women who used the 'HYPE' word, she's a pariah, and the author made a point of reminding us that such people exist, but these are the types of people who have no friends or job. These are bad people, good people say good things about Bend.

Anonymous said...

Did they really use the wrong its? Sigh.

Congratulations on spotting that -- and you're not even a Princeton English major! (Or are you?)

Actually any literate American should understand the difference between its and it's, but it's a mistake I see more and more, even in supposedly carefully edited papers and magazines.

Anonymous said...

You can't question these 'historians' PBM, they're all official 'government approved' historians, and the assessment is fact not fiction. Get with the program. Some of these historians went to Princeton.

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Historians Rank Presidents, Best to Worst

Last Updated: 4:54 PM Feb 15, 2009
Reporter: Associated Press


Just days after the nation honored the 200th anniversary of his birth, Abraham Lincoln has been ranked the nation's best president in a survey of 65 historians.

After Lincoln, the academics rated George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt and Harry Truman as the best leaders overall.

Former President George W. Bush, who left office last month, was ranked 36th out of the 42 men who had been chief executive as of the end of 2008, according to the survey conducted by the cable channel C-SPAN. It's only 42 because Grover Cleveland, who served two nonconsecutive terms, is counted twice.

Rated worst overall were, starting at the bottom and moving up: James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison and Warren G. Harding.

The survey was conducted in December and January. Participants ranked each president on a scale of one to 10 on a list of 10 leadership qualities.

(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Anonymous said...

Shelly Klapper, a rare skeptic in the Beaver State, reminded me: "This is a state that buys it's own hype."

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Leave it to the spell&grammar&Punct ninny's to berate the technical, but not the substance of this message.

This women is a commie, she's a pessimist, a skeptic and these are the kinds of people that will destroy our Bend.

In better times this women would have been burned as a witch.

Blasphemy, PR&MARKETING is our god in Bend, calling it 'Hype' is denigration of the chosen peoples own god.

Praise COVA, the BULL, and SORE and all that is good in Bend.

Anonymous said...

Rated worst overall were, starting at the bottom and moving up: James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison and Warren G. Harding.

These presidents were all nonentities; their failure consisted of NOT doing things they should have done. Chimpy was ACTIVELY bad; he intentionally did wrong and destructive things (invading Iraq on the basis of lies, illegal wiretaps, torture, etc.)

And I can't understand how William Henry Harrison ever got in there. Old Tippecanoe caught pneumonia and died after less than two months in office. Ridiculous to list him as one of the "worst."

I think this ranking is bogus.

Anonymous said...

Correction: Harrison was in office for exactly one month.

Anonymous said...

Hey we have our own problems over here in Portland, OK?

Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 12:27pm PST
Portland home sales hit record lowPortland Business Journal
Portland hit a record low for home sales in January, according to the Regional Multiple Listing Service.

There were 732 sales in January, 32.5 percent lower than a year ago.

The median sale price dropped to $250,000, from $280,000. The average home took 152 days to sell. The time on market could not be compared to a year ago because of a change in how it is calculated.

While sales hit a new low, the number of homes for sale hit a record high. With 14,076 homes for sale in January, there was enough to meet demand for 19.2 months. A market is considered in equilibrium if it has a five-month inventory.

Anonymous said...

"looking for associates with great people skills and who aren't afraid to get out there and tell people about our products, and who are ready to INVEST in a business..."

Anyone object to us renaming Bend "Amway?" It just seem so FITTING...

Anonymous said...


we'll see lots of cali fat-cats blowing their 'stimulus' was on 2nd homes in orygun.



Yes, I am a fat cat and I wish to buy a small home near Drake Park, within walking distance of downtown.

Anybody have anything you can sell me?

I'll can pay $280,000, with 20% down, 3.9% interest from US BANK.

Anonymous said...

I think this ranking is bogus. - hbm

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I think your right, but its going to take 50 yrs to even get the great-depression-2.0 history written, and then figure by then they might release the Bush records, the real stuff. Maybe, then historians can really judge action mcChimp.

For a sitting prez on his way out, to be at the bottom of the 'active' list is pretty sad.

Why not find the real list?? For instance where is Carter and ClitorisB?? Or RAYGUN?? He's dead they can talk about him. A more interesting list is ranking all prez since WWII.

Why is Lincoln always idolized?? Especially given that at the time 1/2 the country hated his ass, is it because he was assassinated? Sort of the JFK syndrome? Martyr?

Anonymous said...

So how about geni-asses of BEND? What are these new @home bizes going to do?? The entrepreneurs are coming to Bend, and 5min -> 3yrs makes you an old-timer,... 2-3 months and your an expert on Bend. What in the fuck are people going to do?? China & India are way ahead of us on GRN-ENERGY, we're fucking consumers. Importers. Cargo-Cultists on a remote desert-island mtn-top, waiting for people to bring us shit by long-haul over the mtn-passes.

DEBATE?

What about this 'entrepreneur' thing?? Even Google is slowing and laying off, MS, ...

The PC sales has collapse, just today I saw that Verizon has come out with a $5/mo cell phone plan!! Shit we now have Asian pricing for wireless!!

Prices are fucking collapsing. Thirty years ago computers were expensive, nobody had them except BIG company's and government then the PC-AT went boom in 1983 and the 'first' made a bundle of loot, but now Mexico, Russia, China, ... everybody has PC's, everybody has 'programmers' so fucking what. Everybody has web-apps in Chennai or Mumbai, ... anybody in eastern-EU can get a PC and internet and add value, so fucking what?

What can the KIDS really do these days for new start-ups?? OH yea, myspace, facebook, ... another social-website, ...

Sure you can start a biz, any idiot can start a biz, but 'survival' that is the KEY, its what me & dunc always write about, can you survive and build a biz 10, 20, 30 years, ... any idiot can start a biz, and blow his was in BEND, and then move, so what??

In the 70's or 80's if you knew Computer-Sci you could write your own ticket, today good luck finding a job. There are no new killer HW paradigms other than CELL-PHONES, but look $5/mo plans, and all SW is near free, ... That's not a fucking biz model.

What's it really going to be?? Don't get me wrong, I'm done, but I'm quite curious. Most people 'I know' in BEND are doing GAME-SW permutations, but even that genre is getting hit by the econ.

Anonymous said...

Drake Park, within walking distance of downtown. $280k or less

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FaT Ass, if you goto zillow.com, there are tons of homes like that 'near' Drake-Park, and close enough roll in your own wheel chair to Deschutes Pub, and never leave.

Anonymous said...

Correction: Harrison was in office for exactly one month.

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Shit that's the first time I have ever seen Pyschotic-Bowel-Movement do a mea-culpa.

Anonymous said...

BP,

Tonight is $2 night at Bend Brewing Co, aka BBC, and the brewer TANYA SHE-HOT.

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:Uxy3q9mvriaSPM:http://blog.oregonlive.com/thebeerhere/2008/04/large_tonyawbc.jpg

( Ok, she hot for a bend woman brewer, Tonya Cornett of Bend wins a World brewer award, another mention SHE just won the INTL award for best brewer "Tonya Cornett of Bend wins a World Beer Cup award in a craft dominated by men" )

Can you imagine that a hot woman brewer in Bend.

Bend is exceptional, Bend is #1, and on tuesday heaven has a place in Bend, and it be BBC.

Like BP says the circle is complete, FORBES says NOTHING in ORYGUN is any good, but the beer, and we got the best brewer in the world, and she's a woman right here in Bend, another Bend #1 exceptional-ism, the ONLY one we actually have sadly, but then this isn't a fact.

( This promotion was paid by COVA. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V0M6-dwmv8M/SU-3bxw8RpI/AAAAAAAAAAk/dQhBhgghIWI/S692/images-1.jpeg
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Anonymous said...

, I am a fat cat and I wish to buy a small home near Drake Park , . ; <>

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Isn't that an oxymoron?? 'Fat Cat' and BEND?? Mutually exclusive?? Fat Cat's do BT or HIGHLAND@BT, but NOT DP.

Drake-Park is where all the home-less kids hang and smoke crack, meth, and pot all summer long, and camp-out. aka Feral Children of retire cali's...

I hope your a hoody, and carry good stuff, otherwise your white ass will get rolled your first night pub-crawl back home, this time of the year the gauntlet is bend-easy-money as its too cold to camp @Drake, but wait another two months.

Anonymous said...

I'll can pay $280,000, with 20% down, 3.9% interest from US BANK.


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Wait, if you can't wait, then find a good realtor to WRITE low-balls.

If you don't have a good realtor, I can provide names, use COLDWELL-BANKER they're the best in Bend, make sure you got someone with balls.

LOWBALL, write them OFTEN, and off 1/2 what they're asking and be ready to close and quick.

Things seem to be $220k squishy now, with $190k not being an unreasonable, remember MOST the new homes in 1998 cost $120k to build, and thus $180k is still profit.

Make sure the seller bought the home PRE-2004, if they bought the HOME post 2004, run don't walk, do all your homework on DIAL first, and determine if the homes meet criteria, and drive around and look at homes with realtor, and then write offers, like asking women at the bar to fuck, 1/2 the time they walk away, but 10% of the time they say yes, so you better to be ready to move.

Many women go to the bars to fuck, some go to be seen, and some are lesbians, you just have to ASK to find who is who, there are TONS of people DYING to get the fuck out of BEND, you can't find them if you don't ASK.

Anonymous said...

>Things seem to be $220k squishy now, with $190k not being an unreasonable, remember MOST the new homes in 1998 cost $120k to build, and thus $180k is still profit.

And those will be sub $150k in a year, when medians are $120k.

Anonymous said...

>And those will be sub $150k in a year, when medians are $120k.

You too can put 20% down and be underwater in a year.

Anonymous said...

A more interesting list is ranking all prez since WWII.

That's a pretty dismal list. Okay here goes, in descending order:

Truman
JFK
Clinton
Ike
LBJ (downgraded because of Vietnam)
Carter
Ford
Bush I
Nixon
Reagan
Chimpy (all-time WORST)

(Ford earns a low ranking for pardoning Nixon. Aside from that he was a nonentity.)

Anonymous said...

Good list HBM, I think that list is much more relevant, I think you need to post this on the sore-eye, and see if any readers dispute.

Anonymous said...

The OREO is NOW the OR-BOMB-EO, ... 100's of thousands of 'new jobs' in Afghanistan, PAKI, and... as US KILLING MACHINES, ...

Obama orders 17000 US troops to Afghanistan
Reuters - 34 minutes ago
By Andrew Gray WASHINGTON, Feb 17 (Reuters) - US President Barack Obama, in his first major military decision, has ordered 17000 more US troops to Afghanistan to tackle worsening insurgent violence, the White House said on Tuesday.

Anonymous said...

This is WHERE it matters to have spent 30+ years here and seen a few cycles. The ONLY FUCKING way you can go under-water is 'short-term', sure if your NOT going to stay here 5+ years, hopefully 10+ get the fuck out of here. RE prices WILL NORMALIZE @4X, they always have and always will. Sure if you spent $450k for a STD, your fucked. But MOST nice inner-town homes at around $200k will over the long term ( 5+ ) years not put you under-water. FACT. UNLESS of course wages (INCOME) drops to $25k/yr per household, and that not going to happen, we'll have short term de-flation, and ROARING inflation once OREO gets the WAR going.

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Things seem to be $220k squishy now, with $190k not being an unreasonable, remember MOST the new homes in 1998 cost $120k to build, and thus $180k is still profit.

And those will be sub $150k in a year, when medians are $120k.
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You too can put 20% down and be underwater in a year.

Anonymous said...

So someone with $75k to put down could take out a mortgage of $115k now or $75k later. And don't give me that shit about "you won't be able to get a loan later," because if they aren't giving out loans you will be able to buy it for $75k.

Anonymous said...

Unless you have found the perfect house and NOTHING else will do you will be better off waiting at least 6 months to buy.

FACT.

Anonymous said...

If you wait until prices are lower you can use your down payment to buy a place to live in, and a rental place that will actually pencil out to rent to some fucking renter KUNT.

FACT

tim said...

>>How can this be? Its Forbes they can afford Princeton english majors to write their copy.

I've not read a NYT or WSJ in the last 5 years that didn't have at least one awful error in it. I'm afraid copy editors have all been fired.

Or they are in such a rush to get last minute stuff in to try to compete with the web that they don't even bother to try to catch mistakes.

Anonymous said...

Baby JEEBUS FUCKING HIS OWN IN BEND IN THE AASS, WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED???

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Churches Cutting Budgets and Jobs

2/17/09 Deschutes County
By Brian MacMillan

Prayer is a little different today.

"As opposed to just health and perseverance, a lot more of it has to do with the economy," says Eastmont Church member Erin Kerley.

Central Oregon churches are feeling the tight economic times. Job layoffs and tighter budgets for members of congregations mean churches aren't getting the money they had this time last year. "A year ago, we were definitely making sure that we were doing 10%, every paycheck, every month, and it has kind of switched to whenever we get any extra money," says Kerley.

Kerley is like many others who go to Central Oregon churches. Her place of worship, Eastmont Church in Bend, had to cut its budget by 9%. On the other side of town, Westside Church laid off four people and cut its budget by almost $450,000.

"Mostly, we cut things that are here in the church, just things we felt like we didn't need to keep doing, and really simplify what we're doing in this city," says Westside Church Pastor Steve Mickel.

At Redmond Community Church, they're operating with one less pastor and one less part-time employee, along with a 10% budget cut. "At times like this where it hurts and we hurt for them, because it's a difficult job market to send people out into, we understand that if everyone's going to hurt, we are going to feel that too," says Pastor Curtis Tucker.

But, there is some good news. "The weekly, regular giving has dropped, but the people are giving more than they ever have to benevolence, to helping other people in the community," says Mickel. In some churches, food and clothing donations are up 400%. While people tighten their budgets, the giving continues, just in different ways.

Almost every church we talked to said their budgets are down anywhere from 5-10% and the places doing the best are the churches with the oldest members.

Anonymous said...

I've not read a NYT or WSJ in the last 5 years that didn't have at least one awful error in it. I'm afraid copy editors have all been fired.

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It's probably the biggest problem facing Bend today, said the internet ninny's that verify that all grammar, spelling and punctuation is correct.

Anonymous said...

Todd Taylor, Board Chairman

Todd Taylor is President of Taylor Northwest and brings more than 15 years of experience in management, finance, construction, business acquisition and corporate business development to the CHC board. He was appointed to the board in November 2006. Through the years, he has provided extensive community service on a multitude of community boards.

When asked what is behind his passion for health care and service to the CHC board, Taylor said, "Central Oregon offers a quality of life for all individuals and families who live and work in this area. Great quality of life includes a wonderful health care system. From an employer standpoint, it is essential to have quality health care for all employees as they are spending a portion of their wages to pay for their health care coverage. Each year this cost outpaces the cost of living increases most families receive, therefore causing more and more hardships on families. My passion is to help govern and set polices that allow for the highest level of integrated health care for all residents throughout Central Oregon while staying focused on affordability."

Anonymous said...

Almost every church we talked to said their budgets are down anywhere from 5-10% and the places doing the best are the churches with the oldest members.

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Places doing 'the best', are where they shearing older sheep. Imagine that?? Selling JEEBUS is just like selling Bend. What happens when the oldsters run out of money?? Will Jeebus leave Bend??

Selling BEND as a 'retirement paradise' do the dead and dying was the key of the PR&MARKETING BEND BULL market 2002->2006, imagine that!! That that Area CHURCHES think just like MOSS, or SUMMIT-1031, wait a minute, its the same people.

Who would have guessed? Who could have known?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


Who would have guessed? Who could have known?


Can we get a grammatical ruling on this catch-phrase?

I feel it should be "Who could have guessed? Who would have known?"

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

See... it's really starting to mutate too:

Who could have guessed? Who could have known?

Who would have guessed? Who could have known?


The 2 "could's" seems grammatically correct, but repetitive.

We need to tighten up the screws a little bit people.

Anonymous said...

Some of you guys were wondering what the fuck Geithner was up to the other day when he gave a speech that would have got him a C- in Speech 101.

Well maybe he sounded vague and confused because he suddenly realized that Hank Paulsen isn't the greatest role model after all:

Krugman:

The WaPo reports that Tim Geithner realized late in the day that the approaches to financial rescue originally developed by the Obama team weren’t workable — hence the vagueness of last week’s announcement.

In a way, that’s encouraging: we were spared Hankie Pankie II. But it’s a bit alarming that it took so long for the team to figure out the problems — and that they apparently spent a long time going down a route that led to a dead end. Many of these issues had been hashed out in public discussion last fall, when Paulson made his play.

And I can’t believe that the discussions would have gone so off the rails if any of the high-visibility outsiders had been in the loop — Joe Stiglitz, Nouriel Roubini, Simon Johnson, etc. (No, I wasn’t in the loop either.)

So what the WaPo report seems to suggest is a worrisome insularity. Geithner and Summers are smart guys — but they need to get out more.

Anonymous said...

What FUCKING bullshit. Paulson was out for himself and GoldmanSachs, just like Cheney was out for himself and Halliburton.

Geithner was groomed by Bernanke, & Greenspan for the past 20 years at the Fed-Res. Geithner was the 'brains' behind all the bailouts in 2008. FACT!

Geithner was all choked up last week, because there is no 'rational' reason for making the dollar worthless, unless your goal is to nationalize the banks and create a new currency. Which has been the plan all along.

Anonymous said...

Another GOOD STORY how&WHY MOSS lost $25M of CACB money...


Wednesday, Feb. 18, 2009

Hertel's house of cards: The rise and fall of a homebuilding empire
For years, ambitious developer R.W. Hertel and Sons built homes and borrowed money in a cycle of escalating success.

Then, in 2005, trouble struck: The housing market peaked and plunged, the dollars dried up and everything came crashing down.
Melanie Cleveland - mcleveland@thetribunenews.com


About four years ago, R.W. Hertel and Sons’ real estate empire was expanding with no apparent end in sight. Flush with profits from roughly 1,000 homes built in San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties, partners Ronald W. Hertel and Robert Fowler had a fleet of jets, a yacht, a Camarillo golf course and plans to build hundreds more homes in Atascadero, Santa Margarita, Pismo Beach, Central and Northern California, Oregon and Arizona.

Now the company has dissolved, its partnership split. Hertel and Fowler are buried under millions of dollars of debt and foreclosures, and their home-building company, R.W. Hertel and Sons, has been forced into an involuntary Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

“These were jet-setting developers who unfortunately crashed,” said Vance Rose, who worked with R.W. Hertel and Sons as a winemaker in one of its endeavors.


In August, Rose bought the winery in Santa Margarita from them and their lender, Mission Community Bank, as the partners attempted to divest themselves of their debts, he said.

Such stories of failure in the home-building industry have become increasingly common.

The National Association of Home Builders estimates that more than 20,000 residential developers across the country have shut down in the last two years.

Local builder Rick Loughead, whose family-run company has built more than 1,000 homes in Avila Beach alone and who owns the upscale Dolphin Bay resort in Pismo Beach, described the builder’s situation overall as “horrible.”

“Across the board, everyone is crashing,” he said. “There may be some who had a lot of equity in property, but no one is going to be able to keep going on forever.”

With the housing industry still owing hundreds of billions of dollars in loans made at the market’s peak, real estate market analyst Ivy Zelman predicts more than 50 percent of residential builders could be insolvent within the next two years.

A former Hertel business partner, Rob Rossi, who is one of the largest commercial property owners in the county, describes Hertel and Fowler as having an entrepreneurial nature.

They took educated risks and ramped up a fairly large building organization from almost nothing in fairly short order, Rossi said.

But any builder caught with unsold inventory in this downturn has “taken a big hit,” he said.

“None of us could have seen just how significant and strange it’s been,” Rossi said. “And it’s hardly over. I predict a continued significant decline in housing values.

“When we come out of this downturn, there may well be a new paradigm on how homes (and builders) get financing,” he added.

Hertel, whose headquarters in Ventura has been closed, does not have a new published address and could not be located for comment. Fowler lives in San Luis Obispo County and has spoken to The Tribune in a series of interviews over the past several weeks.

A family business

Ronald W. Hertel and Fowler started out with Hertel’s father, Ronald L. Hertel, in Ventura in the early to mid-1990s.

The senior Hertel had a steady home-building business from Thousand Oaks to Ventura, but his son, a Stanford graduate, had “bigger ideas,” said Tom Habbick, who had worked with the Hertel family since 1979.

Fowler and the junior Hertel soon split off from the father to expand into new territories, which included building homes in San Luis Obispo County, starting around 1995, Fowler said.

Over the course of the Hertel-Fowler partnership, the two men built more than 500 homes in San Luis Obispo County, including subdivisions in the Arbors and Islay Hill off Tank Farm Road and Rancho Obispo off Los Osos Valley Road in San Luis Obispo.

In most of their ventures, Hertel split the ownership at a ratio of 55 percent to 45 percent, with Hertel controlling the majority interest, according to Fowler.

Fowler, who helped found Mission Community Bank in San Luis Obispo, ran the operations of the company, supervising its real estate projects and the 150 employees who worked in the company’s various enterprises. While Fowler minded many of the details of the company’s business, Hertel was the one with the big ideas and raised capital for the company’s ventures, Fowler said.

“We were proud of what we were doing,” Fowler said. “We built a successful organization and continued to build homes — tangible things that added value to people’s lives.”

Now, he says that R.W. Hertel and Sons, the company that ran the partners’ building operations, “is pretty much cooked.”

“We’re responsible for our debts, but at this point unfortunately it would take another lifetime to repay them,” he said.

The partners have now split in order for them to solve their debt crises independently, Fowler said, and are only communicating through a third party.

Borrowed time

Fowler said the company’s problems began in late 2005 and 2006, when the partners saw an increasing oversupply of homes being built, particularly in the Central Valley, and their home sales began to dry up.

“We tried to rent units when we couldn’t sell, but then the home prices started dropping, and the banks got nervous,” Fowler said. “The properties were over-appraised” — meaning there was more money loaned on them than they were worth — “and the banks were upside down.”

He said the company tried to weather through by downsizing and selling off assets such as a Santa Margarita winery, two of its corporate jets housed at the San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport’s private jet center — the other two were repossessed — its Sterling Hills golf course in Camarillo and its position in an Avila Bay hotel, restaurant and business center investment.

However, the added cash flow was not enough to satisfy their lenders.

“We do projects on borrowed money. … It’s only the sale of houses that pays for the whole shebang,” Fowler said. By the end of 2007, Fowler said, the industry went off a cliff.

“Four separate banks simply stopped funding loans in the last year — they cut us off at our knees,” he added. “We had a partnership with Lehman Brothers. … Who ever thought they’d go under?”

But Lehman Brothers, holding more than $600 billion in assets, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization on Sept. 15. At the time, it was the largest U.S. bankruptcy on record.

By last summer, Fowler and Hertel had dissolved their partnership and laid off the last of their employees as they attempted to stanch the flood of cascading debts and foreclosures, Fowler said.

“It broke my heart to dissolve the company,” Fowler said. “But when there are no sales and values of homes go down 35 percent or more, we just can’t sustain it.

“If I knew then what I know now, I would have liquidated everything in 2005 as fast as I could,” he added. “I would have gotten out of the business, but that’s easy to say now in retrospect.”

Lost projects

In one instance, the Bend, Ore.-based Bank of Cascades took control of a $25 million Hertel Oregon resort project, with a hotel and homes, called Inn at Eagle Point, according to David Hussell, city administrator of Eagle Point, Ore.

“Hertel completed the infrastructure and entitlements, but the property’s gone back to the bank,” Hussell said. “It’s really unfortunate for all of us. It had great potential for the community and the region; there’s a need for lodging facilities, and the golf course (which already exists) attracts a good deal of visitor play. But as far as I understand it, the resort is dead.”

By last fall, the company also had lost several large real estate holdings in San Luis Obispo County to banks, including the Las Lomas housing development in Atascadero with more than $21 million owed to lenders, and a thousand still-vacant acres in Santa Margarita, which Hertel and Fowler split off from a partnership with Rossi and other owners in 2005.

After that transaction, Hertel and Fowler were no longer part of the Santa Margarita Ranch project as it passed through the county Board of Supervisors, according to county recorder documents.

In another foreclosure last year, Heritage Oaks Bank took over Los Robles Del Mar, a R.W. Hertel and Sons’ project in Pismo Beach that would have included 252 homes, a church and senior-citizen housing.

Personal debt

As Hertel and Fowler work through the involuntary bankruptcy of their company, they also face steep personal debt.

Both have been hit with nearly $300,000 in state tax liens apiece for back taxes and penalties from 2005, according to state tax records.

Fowler is facing notices of default on three homes he owns in Santa Margarita and Atascadero, on North Forty Road, Harvest Way and Pozo Road.

He has been unable to make payments on loans for those homes, totaling more than $3 million, according to state and county records.

Fowler said he’s working with the banks to sell two of the three houses in lieu of foreclosure.

He is attempting to continue to make payments on his personal residence on Pozo Road, he said, which is valued at more than $1 million, according to county records.

In January, Los Angeles-based City National Bank sued Fowler and Hertel, claiming the men defaulted on a $2 million loan.

The bank is seeking to repossess their 67-foot yacht, the Dram Buoy, which they put up as collateral. The boat is held by their Cayman Island-based Bourne End Limited Co., according to court documents.

For now, Fowler is working out of a San Luis Obispo business called Meridian Realty Consulting to help his creditors maximize their return on their properties, he said.

“I’m trying to handle the things that need to be handled the best that I can,” he said. “It’s painful that this has happened. But I’m trying to do the right thing.”

Fowler said he may have to file for personal bankruptcy if he cannot work out repayment plans for the debts he owes, including his tax liens. But he is determined to avoid that if possible.

“My reputation is important to me,” he said. “I want to work in this community again.”

Anonymous said...

The National Association of Home Builders estimates that more than 20,000 residential developers across the country have shut down in the last two years.

Anonymous said...

In one instance, the Bend, Ore.-based Bank of Cascades took control of a $25 million Hertel Oregon resort project, with a hotel and homes, called Inn at Eagle Point, according to David Hussell, city administrator of Eagle Point, Ore.

“Hertel completed the infrastructure and entitlements, but the property’s gone back to the bank,” Hussell said. “It’s really unfortunate for all of us. It had great potential for the community and the region; there’s a need for lodging facilities, and the golf course (which already exists) attracts a good deal of visitor play. But as far as I understand it, the resort is dead.”

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Golf attracts what? The resort is dead? Who would have known? Hertel must have been a Christian, otherwise why would MOSS have given this over leveraged CALI $25M??

Anonymous said...

Baby Jeebus say's SCALE BACK SDC, and so it is DONE. "LET MY PEOPLE BUILD FOR FREE" Say's JEEBUS on Behalf of the COBA-CORA Gods of Bend.


SDC Increase Scaled Back

2/17/09 Bend

by Ariel Wesler

There hasn't been an increase in systems development charges for the Bend Metro Parks and Rec District since 2003. Back then, the SDCS were based on land values of 75,000 dollars per acre. The Parks and Rec Board is now looking at values more than triple that amount. . .Around 230 thousand dollars.
"I think it's important to have consistency in our methodology," said Board Member Ted Schoenborn.

At a public hearing two weeks ago, the board faced intense opposition from builders and realtors who felt those numbers were inflated. Tuesday night. . .A compromise. A gradual increase of 25 percent or more annually over the next four years, based on the economic situation.

"They understand the economic climate, that we're all in this together. The key is not necessarily raising fees right now, but having the ability to do so when any sort of market recovery does start to happen," said Andy High of the Central Oregon Builders Association.

The current fee is 3500 dollars per housing unit. New homeowners will eventually pay over 6100 dollars. Builders are worried .. saying its tough enough right now to sell homes, but admit the surroundings could eventually attract buyers. .. Parks and Rec say it strongly relies on the money for new projects and maintenance.

"We've had an SDC program for the last ten years. Over those ten years, that program has worked pretty effectively to be able to make sure that the level of service that we're able to provide is commesurate with the growth that we have," said Don Horton, BMPRD Executive Director.

If approved, the SDC fee increases could take effect as early as July 2010. The board is expected to officially vote on the resolution March 3rd.

Anonymous said...

http://www.compassbend.com/about-us/meet-the-staff.html

Sawyer-five, Summit-1031, MOSS, ... every theft in Bend has JEEBUS connection.

Most interesting is this Compass Church which actually has train to move Cali's out of south-cali to Bend, and has support groups to make the new calis feel comfy in Bend.

Simply fucking AMAZING that all of Bend's 'christian churches' are part and parcel of the TEAM-MOSS GROWTH POLICY, to bring as many warm bodys into BEND ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Trust in god?

It's vainglorious anglo christian tools who created this real estate and economy mess in the US. When the bills come due and you have no money-god is not gonna slide a stuffed envelope under your door.

God hates religion. Don't pray for rain-turn on the sprinklers

Where is Mosses (CACB) Money?? Australia? florida?

Anonymous said...

Best time in 20 yrs to fuck children in the name of Jeebus.

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Sex abuse suits drive Jesuits to file bankruptcy

by Bryan Denson and Nancy Haught, The Oregonian
Tuesday February 17, 2009, 11:00 PM

The Northwest's Jesuits filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization today in Portland, citing civil lawsuits resulting from allegations of clergy sex abuse.

Formally known as the Society of Jesus, Oregon Province, the Roman Catholic order declared assets of $4.8 million and liabilities of nearly $62 million, according to the 123-page filing posted in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Oregon.

The five-state Jesuit province is listed as a defendant in nine active lawsuits in Alaska, Idaho and Washington. Another suit was settled last September in Multnomah County. The suits were brought by plaintiffs alleging sexual abuse by priests.

"Our decision to file Chapter 11 was not an easy one, but with approximately 200 additional claims pending or threatened, it is the only way we believe that all claimants can be offered a fair financial settlement within the limited resources of the province," said Oregon's provincial, the Rev. Patrick J. Lee, in a written statement.

Although the Oregon province is the largest geographically in the world, it remains the poorest financially of the Jesuits' 10 provinces in the United States, according to the order's Web site.

According to the Portland-based province, the Jesuits have settled at least 200 legal claims since 2001, paying more than $25 million, not including payments by the province's insurers. The bankruptcy filing listed assets of $1.2 million in real property and $3.7 million in personal property.

"Our hope is that by filing Chapter 11, we can begin to bring this sad chapter in our province's history to an end," Lee said. "We continue to pray for all those who have been hurt by the actions of a few men, so that they can receive the healing and reconciliation that they deserve."

Lee said the filing will allow the province to resolve its pending claims, manage its financial situation and continue its ministries in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana and Alaska. The province includes more than 250 Jesuits.

The Jesuits came to the Northwest in 1841 after being invited by the Flathead tribe from what is now Montana.

The Oregon province, created in 1932, has two universities -- Seattle University and Gonzaga University in Spokane -- and four high schools, including Jesuit High School in Beaverton. In 2001, the order established St. Andrew Nativity School in Northeast Portland.

Anonymous said...

Criticism of KRUGMAN, Just another self-promoter, who fucks with the mind of simple-minded men, Certainly loved by HBM cuz he lays all the earth problems on SHRUB, but that is over-simplification. Krugman has an agenda, but nobody seems to know what it is, but certainly he has profited handsomely be working on behalf of the biggest crooks in the prior generation.

Throughout his career as a columnist, Krugman has been highly critical of what he regards as dubious economic ideas, such as: strategic trade and its main exponents, Robert Reich, whom he called "offensive" and Lester Thurow whom he called "silly,": protectionism, with attacks on Pat Buchanan on the Right and Ralph Nader on the Left; a return to the gold standard as promoted by editorial writers in the Wall Street Journal; and especially supply-side economics, which he described as economic "snake oil" in Peddling Prosperity. He has frequently been criticized in turn by exponents of these ideas; the journalist James Fallows spoke of his "gratuitous spleen," and Clinton commerce secretary Jeffrey Garten complained that "He behaves like someone with a massive chip on his shoulder."[48]

A November 13, 2003 article in The Economist [49] reads: "A glance through his past columns reveals a growing tendency to attribute all the world's ills to George Bush…Even his economics is sometimes stretched…Overall, the effect is to give lay readers the illusion that Mr Krugman's perfectly respectable personal political beliefs can somehow be derived empirically from economic theory."

Krugman's critics have accused him of employing what they called a "shrill" rhetorical style.[25][50][51]

Economist Daniel B. Klein published during 2008 a paper in Econ Journal Watch (of which he is the chief editor) that reviews and criticizes Krugman's columns for the New York Times. Klein contends that Krugman's "social-democratic impetus sometimes trumps people's interests, notably poor people's interests... Krugman has almost never come out against extant government interventions, even ones that expert economists seem to agree are bad, and especially so for the poor."[52]

Another frequent critic of Krugman's arguments is Donald Luskin.

In the 2008 Presidential campaign, Krugman came under criticism from supporters[who?] of Barack Obama, then a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, as a result of his perceived preference for Hillary Clinton.[53]

Enron

Krugman was one of many economists to serve as a consultant for an advisory board for Enron; he did this in 1999, being paid $37,500[54] before New York Times rules required him to resign when he accepted an offer to be an op-ed columnist in the fall of 1999. He stated later the consulting was to offer "Enron executives briefings on economic and political issues," and that it had required him to "spend four days in Houston."[54]

When the story of Enron's corporate scandals broke, critics[who?] accused him of having a conflict of interest and the job of having been a bribe to control media coverage, charges he denies forcefully, referring to it as "a game of gotcha" and "tabloid journalism." He states that the payment from Enron did not "cause me to write anything I would not have written otherwise." For one thing, he says, he was not a journalist at the time: "when Enron approached me there was no hint that a Times connection lay in my future. As soon as I shook hands with the Times, I resigned from that board." Further, his "normal fee for a one-hour business speech in Boston or New York was $20,000 - more if the speech involved long-distance travel. The Enron board required that I spend 4 days in Houston"; thus the sum involved was not large, in his view. He says that in columns written before and after the scandal, he disclosed his past Enron relationship when he wrote about the company.[54][55]

Anonymous said...

Krugman has almost never come out against extant government interventions, even ones that expert economists seem to agree are bad, and especially so for the poor."

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Krugman is to the left what limbpaugh to the right, limbaugh's audience of course is simple minded blue-collar working class pugs, but in fact his agenda is to financially screw this class of people. Krugman speaks for the 'left', but the REAL LEFT like Nader call him for what he is, an ENRON WHORE. A lobbyist that can be BOUGHT.

Anonymous said...

This is BEND ...

Operator of Christian non-profit indicted in fraud

Chandler man accused of running Ponzi scheme

by Robert Anglen - Jan. 17, 2009 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

Edward Purvis, the man who promised churchgoing investors in Arizona and 12 other states he could make them wealthy while funding Christian causes, was indicted Friday on 43 counts of fraud and theft.

Authorities accuse the 40-year-old Chandler man of operating a multimillion Ponzi-scheme through Nakami Chi Group Ministries International.

"These are very serious charges," Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said Friday. "Several hundred years (of prison) are in the offing."

The indictment comes on the heels of an $11 million restitution order imposed last month on Purvis and his partner Gregg Wolfe and their wives by the Arizona Corporation Commission, which regulates the sale of securities in the state.

Authorities said that while Purvis promised investors 24 percent annual returns, Purvis was dipping into their money to buy cars and jewelry, to make a down payment on an $800,000 home and to pay gambling debts and other personal expenses.

A Ponzi, or pyramid, scheme is an investment scam that uses money from new investors to pay old investors. Nakami's investors included at least one pastor, church elders and members of Chandler Christian Church and Vineyard Church in Avondale, many of whom continue to defend Purvis and Wolfe.

Purvis and Wolfe told investors that their company was worth $170 billion and it controlled assets around the world, including gold mines, Australian developments, telecom firms, banks and a Phoenix technology company.

An Arizona Republic investigation in 2006 raised questions about the size and holdings of Nakami, which used a Scottsdale post-office box as its company business address.

State records showed Purvis was a licensed practical nurse and Wolfe is a former roofing contractor. Records also show Purvis and Wolfe do not have licenses to be brokers, lenders or bankers.

Goddard said his office takes fraud cases very seriously and compared Purvis to some of the worst offenders for his aggressive style of marketing.

"These people act without conscience and their victims are often the aged who invest on trust rather than knowledge," Goddard said, adding that fraud destroys lives no differently than other crimes.

Neither Purvis nor Wolfe could be reached for comment Friday. Purvis is currently serving an 18-month prison sentence for bribing a Chandler police officer and filing a series of bogus legal claims against public officials in an attempt to thwart the Corporation Commission's investigation.

Purvis and Wolfe filed so-called admiralty claims against two attorneys, a judge in the case and the clerk of Maricopa County Superior Court. They also filed liens and lawsuits against a reporter and a financial adviser who alerted authorities to their scheme.

Admiralty law concerns ships and commerce on navigable waters, but groups with roots in militia movements have used it to suggest that it supersedes the Constitution.

Tony Senarighi of Prescott, who invested $50,000 with Purvis and later got his money back, said the fraud charges are deserved.

"Justice took a long time," he said, "so long as justice prevails."

Anonymous said...

You know Brucey, if you weren't so fucking lazy, you would investigate 'money mommas' a little christian group here in Bend that claims to have NEVER made less than 10% for its investors in history.

Anonymous said...

PASTOR TEACHES FLOCK HOW TO GET RICH IN REAL ESTATE, ... Florida, Prescott, ... BEND ... Why does this story sound so much like Bend's recent frauds??

So many christians, and so many ways to take their money from them, cuz they're so fucking BEND DUMB, and they're all from CALI!!!


Pastor, wife arrested for real estate scam

Posted Wednesday, February 17, 2009.

JENSEN BEACH — The three women phoned Rodney McGill in hopes that he'd teach them how to get rich in a difficult real estate market.

The 42-year-old McGill seemed a bona fide success. He drove a Rolls-Royce, hosted a radio show and was pastor of New Hope Outreach Center in Jensen Beach. His wife, Shalonda McGill, 36, was a mortgage broker.

Instead of riches, state investigators said Tuesday, the would-be investors were duped. They paid the McGills inflated prices for homes that since have fallen into foreclosure or default.

The McGills were arrested Tuesday on charges of racketeering, conspiracy to commit racketeering, grand theft and obtaining a mortgage by false representation, the Florida Department of Financial Services said.

The McGills bought four homes in Martin and St. Lucie counties by submitting fraudulent loan applications, then flipped the properties to clients for outsized profits, investigators said. The couple used bogus loan applications to borrow more than the properties were worth, leaving clients with $1.1 million in mortgages, state officials said.

McGill solicited clients through a daily radio program on WJFP-FM 91.1. He told listeners he wanted to teach them to buy and sell real estate with no out-of-pocket expense and a goal of earning $50,000 in 90 days.

The radio pitch yielded three investors, Patricia Kelly, Sharon Schofield and Cynthia McNair, said Detective Ted Padich of the Florida Department of Financial Services.

Investigators said the McGills in June 2006 paid $210,000 for a home at 1000 N.E. County Line Road in Jensen Beach, according to property records. Three months later, they sold the property to Sharon Schofield for $365,000 - a 74 percent increase at a time when home values were falling.

In another example, they said, the McGills in August 2006 paid $147,000 for a house at 2814 S.W. Ann Arbor Road in Port St. Lucie, according to property records. Three months later, they sold it to Patricia Kelly for $229,000 - a 56 percent increase.

"People thought they were getting involved in a real estate investment where he was going to mentor them," Padich said. "What (the McGills) did was simply sell them homes that they already owned."

The McGills also found clients through the Young Millionaires Group Inc., RSM Investment and Mortgage and New Hope Outreach Center Inc. All are at 2110 Arch St. in Jensen Beach.

"It appears that these individuals used their positions in the community to take advantage of people who trusted them," Florida Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink said in a statement. "The evidence our investigation uncovered indicates these two improved their own bottom line while financially devastating the Floridians they promised to help."

The McGills are being held in the Martin County Jail, with bail set at $1.4 million each.

Anonymous said...

The CALI to BEND Christian Railroad.

That's really what they call it.

There are dozens of groups, and many more to be indicted.

The essence is/was to bring a perpetual load of CALI's to BEND, and sell them pre-purchased property, or 1031 exchange, and fleece them, of course this is NOTHING to new about BEND, for Bend has always been a place where large fortunes were made quite small.

What is new to the BUSH years is bringing in ten's of thousands of Christians with Bend city taxpayer money of COVA, some would call this a conflict of church and state. But in BEND, the church is the state. The church of Greed & Building aka COBA/CORA.

It's all quite hillarious, but still all moving along, as the RAILROAD is still processing and bringing in the christians daily, TODAY of course the focus is on OLDER SENIOR christians with retirement savings. That is where the money is.

Bewert said...

Councilors set goals, economic strategies

Over the next year, the Bend City Council wants to complete work on some ongoing projects, maintain and update the city’s infrastructure, protect key public services and update the rules that govern how the city grows — but councilors say finding money to pay for it all will be tough.

In an all-day meeting Tuesday, the council outlined its goals for the next several months, noting both the projects it would like to see completed by 2010 and those that might have to wait because of the ongoing economic slowdown. Among the ideas put on the city’s list: maintaining or building up Bend’s reserve funds, assembling an advisory board for Mirror Pond, developing a long-term funding solution for Bend Area Transit and annexing the airport into the city limits to help boost economic development. Set aside, at least for the near future, were other projects, including work on the Central Area Plan, which would provide a framework for downtown Bend and other areas in the central part of the city.

Throughout the meeting, councilors weighed in on a variety of plans and took a closer look at the city’s budget situation, which they discussed in detail a month ago during two days of financial strategy meetings.

Since that meeting, City Manager Eric King said officials have been working on a draft budget proposal that would cut about $2 million from the city’s approximately $35 million general fund.

Belt tightening

King said Tuesday he wasn’t ready to reveal just where the proposed cuts would come from, and the council didn’t make any final decisions about the budget or any of the other plans. But as the council assembled its list of priorities for the year, councilors said they’re becoming more aware all the time that it’s going to be impossible to find funding for all the projects and services on the agenda — especially because the city has already tightened its belt, with three rounds of budget cuts in just over a year.

“This council still wants to accomplish a heck of a lot, and I don’t think we’re going to be able to do it,” said Councilor Jodie Barram. “Even if you cut $2 million, things aren’t going to get done and its going to get more expensive down the road to catch up again. … I don’t like having to tax or add fees, but at this point, I don’t see a better option.”

Moving on

The meeting was the council’s first since it appointed former councilor and mayor Oran Teater to fill an open seat on Feb. 6. Teater’s last-minute appointment came after a month of tension between the other six council members, who were split over the appointment of Kathie Eckman as the city’s mayor and over the process of filling the seat left open when Chris Telfer stepped down in January to join the state Senate.

Before moving on to the goal-setting discussion, the council took more than an hour to address the divisions that emerged over the past several weeks. During the conversation, some councilors said they were disappointed with how Teater’s appointment had played out, but were ready to move forward.

“I agreed to run again for the City Council because I believe I can do a good job and I believe people supported me for that,” Eckman said. “But I feel like my character has been called into question, and I am extremely disappointed because it’s been on such a public level.”

Others, however, said it will take more time for council members to begin to trust each other.

“I don’t think I’m the kind of person who starts this game, but if that’s the way other people are playing the game, I can participate at that level,” Councilor Jim Clinton said. “I feel strongly that a lot of the ways the city has been doing things are flawed, especially for a city of this size.”


But as the meeting continued, council members dropped the discussion about past events and dug into their plans for the next year on issues ranging from economic development to public transit. Some of the goals outlined by the council were fairly general, but others on the list were more specific.

By the end of the year, council members said they want to see the city establish new guidelines for annexing properties into the city limits and put together a management board for Mirror Pond, which has been plagued by silt buildup. The council also directed city officials to look into the possibility of annexing Bend Municipal Airport, to complete more accessibility improvements on bus stops and curb ramps, and to draw up a list of long-term funding options for Bend Area Transit.

Some of the items on the list are similar to the goals outlined in 2008. Those plans included improving community relations, adoption of Bend’s urban growth boundary expansion and finding funding for a traffic project at the intersection of U.S. Highway 97 and Cooley Road, near Juniper Ridge.

Juggling funds

Accomplishing some of the goals outlined Tuesday won’t come with a large price tag, but others would have to use money from the city’s general fund, which pays for police, fire, street maintenance and transit services, among other expenses.

The council has already discussed slashing some funding from the transit budget, and while many council members have expressed worries about making reductions to police and fire, some said there might not be any other options left.

“If you cut police and fire, it’s a small percentage of their total and it could impact everything else dramatically,” said Councilor Mark Capell. “If you take 2 percent of police and fire, 3 percent of police and fire, it could fully fund everything else.”

King said the council will be able to discuss the budget again at a meeting next month, when he’ll present an updated draft plan with cuts included.

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In a meeting Tuesday, the City Council outlined its goals for the next year on a long list of issues ranging from the budget to economic development. The council didn’t make any final decisions on the issues, but instead directed city staff members to complete research and come up with plans to be voted on at a later date.
Among the goals on the council’s list this year:
• Maintain the city’s reserve funds, which are to be used in emergency situations
• Create a new policy for annexing land into the city limits
• Develop a plan for long-term funding of Bend Area Transit
• Assemble a management board that will help oversee plans to fix environmental problems at Mirror Pond
• Create a committee to review the city’s charter
• Consider the annexation of Bend Municipal Airport into the city limits
Source: City of Bend


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Funny thing is I can't find any notice of a meeting on the city website...

Re: money momma's

Give me a clue about it and what it's name is and who it might be registered under in corp names, and I might look into it. Sorry, I don't attend Westside...

Anonymous said...

YO, Baby Jeebus my man, ... "Why do you rob old people in Bend".

Jeebus: "Why that's easy, thats where the money is".

Anonymous said...

“I agreed to run again for the City Council because I believe I can do a good job and I believe people supported me for that,” Eckman said. “But I feel like my character has been called into question, and I am extremely disappointed because it’s been on such a public level.”

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Well Brucey, if you really dug deep into 'money mommas', you just might learn what Mrs. Eckman is referring to in this area of 'character', she's a character all right. A real christian investment councilor (sic) Bend Style.

Anonymous said...

• Maintain the city’s reserve funds, which are to be used in emergency situations

[ Bend Gone, and not coming back ]

• Create a new policy for annexing land into the city limits

[ This is how the city grew in the last 10+ years, and this is how the city will continue to 'grow on paper' ]

• Develop a plan for long-term funding of Bend Area Transit

[ Who here said that this new bunch of criminals would kill BAT?? I don't think so, this is the mother's milk of pork, and all part of HOLLERN's 'smart growth' for Bend. Can't have a town of low-income poverty stricken people living in ten's of thousands of rotting STD's if you can't bus them around. ]

• Assemble a management board that will help oversee plans to fix environmental problems at Mirror Pond

[ Wake me up when this is done right. ]

• Create a committee to review the city’s charter

[ Never been a better time to change the charter, so as to re-write the rules, and and remove those pesky elections. ]

• Consider the annexation of Bend Municipal Airport into the city limits

[ Yep, landing fee's will solve all the city's problem's. ]

Anonymous said...

What's really funny about the two 'christian fraud' story's is that all our indictments, and FBI stuff, ... when reported in our 'press' BULL&SORE, they NEVER mention the 'christian' connection.

Very interesting, but then COSTA is a christian, and so is EVERY FUCKING BOSS-HOGG in BEND.

Jeebus is very rich in Bend.

Bewert said...

Re: because there is no 'rational' reason for making the dollar worthless

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When your debt is denominated in dollars and you have no savings, inflating the dollar make the debt go away quietly into the night without hurting your balance sheet. It makes perfect sense, it's been done before and it's being done right now.

Anonymous said...

The only thing I found interesting in Bruce's city council report was the mention on BAT.

I have said all along that BAT will never die, its just not how ORYGUN politics play out.

Over in PDX, the METRO-BAT is the biggest PORK-HOGG in the tri-county, and is its own TAX collector.

Just fucking wait mark my words in 5-10 year's BEND-BAT will be billing citizens of the tri-county tax-bills, all legal, don't laught, Tri-Met in PDX area collects 1.5% of ALL self-employed who work at home, folks that would NEVER take a fucking BAT.

You think that government engineers of new 'empires' don't salivate for that shit??

One of the best paying jobs in the Willamette Valley is the Tri-Met Director.

Another issue that is not often said, but its on SDC, that right now we're capped, but by the slight of hand, if you 'call' all expenses 'transportation' there is no State cap on how much Bend can MUNI borrow if used for transportation, so I expect to see a real PUSH on Cooley, cuz they can borrow $60M and then push that money to other projects.

Poor, poor Eckman, already getting bored and pissed off that people aren't kissing her ass like she wanted/expected. Insiders are now wagering she'll step down by summer. She's never lasted a term yet over six months, and she's been elected like 1/2 dozen times in the last twenty years.

A good note on Eckman is she's the only one who BUYS her seat with her own money, well her rich doc hubbys money, all else in COUNCIL have to whore themselves to COBA/CORA, but Eckman at least she's in their on her own nickel. $30k, that's what it costs in Bend to be mayor. When you think about it, BEND is a cheap place to play politics.

Look at it from hubby's point of view, she could probably waste a lot more money, on other hobbys for instance she could open an OLD-MILL boutique and really lose money. Her hubby is glad that she's happy, and has always supported her hobbys. A good man is hard to find.

Anonymous said...

When your debt is denominated in dollars and you have no savings, inflating the dollar make the debt go away quietly into the night without hurting your balance sheet. It makes perfect sense, it's been done before and it's being done right now.

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So maybe in some secret group Geithner is very explicit and doesn't mumble.

Bewert said...

A few inconvenient facts for my favorite DUMB ASS:

300977 View Transaction 04/17/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council COARPAC Cash Contribution $2,000.00

300979 View Transaction 04/25/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Dayna K. Ward Ralston Cash Contribution $250.00

306352 View Transaction 04/25/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Justin D. Ward Cash Contribution $250.00

306411 View Transaction 04/25/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Kim Ward Cash Contribution $1,000.00

333385 View Transaction 06/09/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors Cash Expenditure $150.00

367002 View Transaction 08/06/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $1,000.00

367048 View Transaction 08/04/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Edward G. Wenick ** In-Kind Contribution $1,250.00

395641 View Transaction 09/05/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Bend Fire Fighters Association PAC Fund Cash Contribution $500.00

390126 View Transaction 09/01/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Joan H. Pease Cash Contribution $250.00

390131 View Transaction 09/01/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Steve Scott Cash Contribution $200.00

402231 View Transaction 09/14/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council American Lane Investors, LLC Cash Contribution $250.00

465943 View Transaction 10/12/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors PAC Cash Contribution $2,000.00

439976 View Transaction 10/09/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $1,00

461085 View Transaction 10/18/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $5,603.84

455367 View Transaction 10/15/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $813.50

465914 View Transaction 10/20/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors In-Kind Contribution $1,250.00

491941 View Transaction 10/23/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Deschutes County Republican Central Committee Cash Contribution $500.00

478224 View Transaction 10/28/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $379.00

470703 View Transaction 10/27/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $3,500.00

480005 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Bend Business Political Action Committee In-Kind Contribution $625.00

480010 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Bend Business Political Action Committee In-Kind Contribution $1,000.00

480238 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $125.00

Anonymous said...

The CALI to BEND Christian Railroad.

It's more like the CALI to BEND plastic titty railroad.

Anonymous said...

Geithner's Father say's MORE CARP needed.... Who would have guessed??

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Recession will be worst since 1930s: Greenspan

Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:22am EST

By Kristina Cooke

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Tuesday the current global recession will "surely be the longest and deepest" since the 1930s and more government rescue funds are needed to stabilize the U.S. financial system.

"To stabilize the American banking system and restore normal lending, additional TARP funds will be required," Greenspan said in a speech to the Economic Club of New York. The U.S. Treasury's Troubled Asset Relief Program designed to help bail out banks has been partially successful, he said.

Despite his prognosis on the current downturn, Greenspan said the pace of economic deterioration "cannot persist indefinitely."

He reiterated, however, that a housing recovery is a necessary condition for the end of the financial crisis, and said that "the prospect of stable home prices remains many months in the future."

The stock market, meanwhile, is being suppressed by "a degree of fear not experienced since the early 20th century," Greenspan said. "Certainly by any historical measure, world stock prices are cheap. But as history also counsels, they could get a lot cheaper before they turn."

A recovery in the equity market driven by lessening fear could be "a seminal turning point of the current crisis," he said.

Citing the Japanese experience of the 1990s, Greenspan said U.S. authorities need to assure the repair of the financial system before major fiscal stimulus takes hold.

"Unless we are successful at that, in my judgment, the positive impact of a fiscal stimulus will peter out after its scheduled completion," he said.

He said the real test of fiscal stimulus is whether it "primes the pump" for private demand.

Greenspan said the Federal Reserve's myriad emergency lending programs and the Treasury's TARP funds have the potential of being unwound eventually without leading to inflation or great cost to the taxpayer.

He warned, however, that politics could be an obstacle.

"At the first signs of stabilization and a flattening of the unemployment rate, I presume the Federal Reserve will start to rein in much of its credit extension," Greenspan said.

"However, Congress is likely to strongly object to any tightening of credit prior to full employment being restored. Policy reversals on the fiscal front are nearly certain to meet stiff resistance," he said.

The U.S. Treasury will have to heavily issue debt to fund its stimulus package, and while at the moment the Treasury is having no difficulty finding buyers for it, there is a limit to the expansion of the federal debt, he said.

Greenspan, a proponent of self-regulation, said he was "deeply dismayed" when in August 2007 the premise that firms had the enlightened self interest to monitor their own risk exposure "failed."

Anonymous said...

Pussy,

The below is a DROP in the bucket ( of the over $30k she spent ), the majority of MONEY that Eckman USED to BUY her Mayorship came from her own pocket.

If you want to do tit-for-tat look at the what the REAL COBA/CORA people got, .e.g. the people who didn't use their own money.

465943 View Transaction 10/12/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors PAC Cash Contribution $2,000.00

439976 View Transaction 10/09/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $1,00

461085 View Transaction 10/18/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $5,603.84

455367 View Transaction 10/15/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $813.50

465914 View Transaction 10/20/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors In-Kind Contribution $1,250.00

491941 View Transaction 10/23/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Deschutes County Republican Central Committee Cash Contribution $500.00

478224 View Transaction 10/28/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $379.00

470703 View Transaction 10/27/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $3,500.00

480005 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Bend Business Political Action Committee In-Kind Contribution $625.00

480010 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Bend Business Political Action Committee In-Kind Contribution $1,000.00

480238 View Transaction 10/30/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $125.00

Anonymous said...

The CALI to BEND Christian Railroad.

It's more like the CALI to BEND plastic 'Christian-Titty' railroad.

Jeebus was a carpenter, Jeebus built homes in his day, and flipped, and mtg'd, and hung out with HO's, and drank wine paid for by Roman City Taxpayers. Jeebus through party's where everybody ate for free, and somebody else's nickel.

No wonder the assholes of BEND love jeebus.

Anonymous said...

Dumb fucking PUSSY NEWBIE ASSHOLE ...

Read Eckmans own words on this last campaign, note I write about HER history, ... NOTE that the point in the last twenty years is that ECKMAN has always BOUGHT her way into city-hall, and this time also it was largely her OWN MONEY. Unlike you PUSSY who has NO fucking HISTORY of BEND, I look at the BIG PICTURE, not the little PUSSY picture of what they FEED ME.


"Bend council candidates all over map in fundraising
By Erin Golden / The Bulletin"

The City Council election is nonpartisan.

Eckman said this election is the first time she’s received money from political action groups. She said the builders and real estate agents are supportive of her because of her earlier work in city government.

“I personally am very well known here, and I’m not necessarily pro-development but I’ve been very supportive of business,” she said.

Anonymous said...

How To Spot A
BEND Christian

By Karl W B Schwarz

Part of our re-focus will be to address one of the biggest problems I see in Bend.

Some think that the biggest problems facing Bend is spelling, grammar, and punctuation.

The BIGGEST PROBLEM FACING BEND IS TEAM MOSS and RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN THUGS,...

That being the blind and immoral support by Christians for US government policies that are pure sin and have no Christian virtues whatsoever. The biggest problems I see in and outside of DC are the Neocons, the Zionist, the greed, and blind Christians that cannot seem to discern between Christian values and pure sin. Since most Christians are outside of DC, they are the biggest problem in the electorate because they have been duped into supporting this government and current Administration. Let me re-phrase that, some of them have been duped and others sold out.

That is important because Fraudulent Christians have led many people in the direction of what we now have as government policies run amok. The faux Christian leaders stood 100% behind George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004 and even now when it is apparent that this President is 100% wrong they still tell their flocks that they need to stand by the President. When Christians refuse to wake up and support wrong, they have crossed over into sin and those that peddle themselves as spokesmen become Fraudulent Christians spouting off the wrong message at the wrong time. Some of them do it because they are blinded to the Truth and others do it because they are being compensated by the very government that they defend even when it is glaringly wrong in its actions. They are looking right at fascism and evil and cannot see it for what it is.

Most of you have already heard about Ralph Reed being in a huge legal problem due to the Tom DeLay ­ Jack Abramoff investigation. The investigation is criminal in nature and with Mr. Reed's presence in the mix I think he might be in for a good rebuke from God on his conduct over the past 5 years or so. That is a sure fire way to spot a fraudulent Christian. When they sell out their values (if they ever had them) for money, power, greed, and conduct themselves in a criminal activity, you can rest assured and sleep well at night that the word fraud and Christian have merged to accurately define the person.

Ralph Reed should be getting a good solid rebuke from Christians that he misled but I have yet to see any of the purported Christian leaders of this nation come out and say so publicly.


However, there is a group working to stop him from being elected as Lt. Governor of Georgia in 2006 and they are getting better armed each day that the DeLay and Abramoff sleaze is being exposed. http://stopralphreed.com/ I have decided to help that Stop Ralph Reed group for I cannot think of anything I want less in my new home state of Georgia than Ralph Reed being high up in the government of this state. I distrusted him when he was with Christian Coalition and I now clearly see that I would not support him on anything Christian related or a position of responsibility in government. He could not even publicly atone and get my support or vote.

I remember my grandmother used to say "if you lay with dogs you will get fleas." Ralph Reed has been on a power grab ever since his heady days in college with Grover Norquist, founder of Americans For Tax Reform and now infamous Jack Abramoff.
The Norquist group was instrumental in selling the Neocon influenced Contract With America and the Bush Tax Cuts to Americans that listen to the DC propaganda but do not seem to think too clearly these days. Tax cuts fueled by increasing the US Debt are not tax cuts, it is merely deferring responsibility to another day.

My grandfather used to say "integrity is easier kept than ever regained." Both of those grandparent sayings have served me well in my 54 years of life. My bet is, Ralph Reed is finished in the integrity department as a high level, highly regarding Christian in this nation. In that regards he has no one to blame but himself. God will probably not want to hear from Mr. Reed "the Devil made me do it."

The "Reed's Background" portion of the Stop Ralph Reed website discloses the following information. Note that his relationship with Jack Abramoff goes all the way back to college:


High school and college education

Reed moved often as a child, spending most of his childhood in Miami, Florida. He moved with his family to Toccoa, Georgia in 1976, graduating from Stephens County High School in 1979. He attended the University of Georgia where he earned a BA in history in 1985. Reed was a member of the Demosthenian Literary Society and College Republicans. He was also a columnist for The Red and Black student newspaper but was fired for plagiarism. Reed later received his Ph.D. in American History from Emory University in 1991.

Plagiarism incident

On April 14, 1983, Reed wrote a column for The Red and Black student newspaper attacking the late Mohandas K. Gandhi of India. Entitled "Gandhi: Ninny of the 20th Century," Reed denounced the 1983 motion picture Gandhi for its favorable treatment of the life of the pacifist leader of the Indian independence movement. A graduate student complained to the editor of The Red and Black that Reed had plagiarized a Commentary article by film reviewer Richard Grenier. After an investigation, Reed was fired from the paper. Reed wrote a final column acknowledging his failure to cite sources but accusing the graduate student who complained of "the most shocking, profane form of personal attack I can imagine." (Nina J. Easton, Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the Conservative Crusade, page 130-31)

Early days as political activist

Reed spent much of his college career as a political activist, taking six years to earn his undergraduate degree. He started with the University of Georgia College Republicans, steadily rising to state and then national leadership as he became a master of confrontational street protest and hardball backroom politics.

Reed was Executive Director of the College Republican National Committee (CRNC) from 1983 to 1985. He was appointed to this post by Jack Abramoff, then the Chairman of the CRNC and later the central figure in the Indian gaming scandal that would beset Reed's campaign for Lieutenant Governor. Reed succeeded Grover Norquist as Executive Director. Norquist had managed Abramoff's campaign for National Chairman and would later serve as President of Americans for Tax Reform, an anti-tax group that would serve as a fundraising conduit in the Indian gaming scandal.

At the CRNC, Abramoff, Norquist and Reed formed what was known as the "Abramoff-Norquist-Reed triumvirate." Upon Abramoff's election, the trio purged "dissidents" and re-wrote the CRNC's bylaws to consolidate their control over the organization. Reed was the "hatchet man" and "carried out Abramoff-Norquist orders with ruthless efficiency, not bothering to hide his fingerprints." (Nina J. Easton, Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the Conservative Crusade, page 142)

Ruthless and Christian are an oxymoron if used to describe a person but they describe everything I have seen and read about Ralph Reed.

Most of you have also heard about Pat Robertson calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. I am not aware of any attack that Mr. Chavez has done on the United States except to voice his concerns and dislike for U.S. policy. Last time we checked our numbers that would put Mr. Chavez in the majority if he were an American citizen and exercising his First Amendment right of free speech. Since this is supposedly the Free World according to Bushgarp, I can see where Mr. Chavez would want to index the sale of his oil to the Euro since the fiscal policies of George Bush have caused a massive decline in the true value of the dollar.

In my opinion, Mr. Robertson should get an education in monetary policy to better understand why the weak dollar has most of the world thinking about going with the Euro over the dollar as the common trade currency for oil. Are we to kill another leader if his policies for the benefit of those that elected him are sane and our U.S. policies are not? Do not look for any Christian basis for an act of assassination for it does not exist.

Our economy is no longer based on building wealth over time and building wealth on producing products. It is based on shipping jobs elsewhere, creating an economy of consumers rather than producers and financing all of that with massive amounts of debt to keep the illusion alive. That sums up why we have little job creation except for military related activities, massive debt and deficits and a weakened dollar. The ugly waltz that is going on right now is we are shipping less and less overseas in finished product and bringing more in each day. The weak dollar is the only way for our multinational corporations to keep pushing product overseas. In short, our government is subsidizing them by drowning us in debt.

I am certain that George Bush can come up with an excuse or another lie to justify such an action to kill Chavez, but I can assure you as a Christian you cannot. The moral to that sentence is George Bush is many things but a Christian he is not. His every act discloses that his Christianity is superficial, in appearance only and merely hollow words of a man who says one thing and does another. In more ways than most imagine, he and Bill Clinton as so much alike they could be brothers. The Christian values are not in the heart or the mind of George W. Bush. Even his fear of 9-11 investigations is screaming loudly to every Christian I know. Christians are not afraid of the truth and in fact are honor bound and soul bound to seek it.

The email update yesterday about our failed energy and monetary policies should have shed some light on why this US government cannot get along with Iran or Venezuela. It is a fixable and correctible problem, but do not hold your breath that those in D.C. will have a change of heart and supplant sanity for their daily regimen of greed. Do not have hope in the absence of a reason to hope that they will suddenly quit being greedy and replace that with true Christian values.

Bush and his Christian backers thump their chests about all of the nation building and spreading of democracy, but note that they have done nothing about their spreading of deadly nuclear wastes to the Balkans, Afghanistan, Iraq and even the United States. There is nothing Christian about that, yet these Fraudulent Christians keep telling their flock to stay the course. Millions will die due to what we have done, yet the Fraudulent Christian leaders make sure the blind eye and the deaf ear keep turned to a problem of tragic proportions. Tragic to the point of being disgustingly sinful, yet they hold our actions up high.

When the entire world knows that George W. Bush lied us into Iraq, and polls even show that 57% of all Americans think he is a dishonest person, those Christians that hold this President up high need to go home each night and pray to God that He provide them the discernment they obviously lack. That is just my opinion, but I know a Fraud Christian when I see one and I choose not to follow such people to Hell.. We can all rely that the matters involving Iran and Venezuela are all lies too for that is all they know how to do in Washington, DC. Wrong conduct is wrong conduct and no amount of equivocation by Fraudulent Christian leaders will turn that wrong into right actions.

When certain Christian groups publicly endorse Bush and all of the glaringly apparent lies, the corruption, the greed, the killing, the pollution of the environment with Depleted Uranium [DU], non-depleted uranium and plutonium [more on this in a future email update], you have to question what part of the Ten Commandments [Thou shalt not kill is plenty clear to me] or the New Testament parts that they conveniently overlook to justify endorsing that which is clearly sinful. As I heard it said once "they are the Ten Commandments, not The Ten Suggestions. Even the simple tenets of The Sermon on the Mount and The Golden Rule are lost on deaf ears when greed and power are in play. Do they purport that it is less sinful to kill millions over the years with nuclear pollution than to kill just some over a short illegal war? If that is what they believe, they need to have a long talk with God and this time listen.

What I am going to share with you today is another group that is about as fraudulent as any Christian group I have ever encountered. If you have not noticed yet, I am not going to mince words with these folks. This is one Ecumenical Christian that is sick and tired of being given a bad name by these Fraudulent Christians that have bought off on this sinful conduct for one reason. George W. Bush has funneled billions into their "faith based initiatives" and as it says in the Bible, the love of money is the root of all evil. In one year alone, especially the last election year, Bush funneled over $9 billion into the causes of those same Christian leaders that are leading many Christians straight to Hell but told their flock to vote for Bush Cheney.

I am sick and tired of Bible-thumping frauds and myopic morons that puff their chests in pride, wrap themselves in the flag as if they are The Only True American Patriots, and lead many astray, while they have the Bible in one hand and the other hand extended to make sure they get their share of those billions of dollars annually for their faith based causes. I have looked into some of these Faith Based Initiatives that brag that they provide services at lower overhead than the government and find that even that representation is not true as they have built in layer after layer of overhead to line as many Christian pockets as they can. Many of these purported Faith Based Initiatives should be re-characterized as Fraud Based Initiatives.

I have written on this subject before. http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/11295/ In that article I disclose that some of Pat Robertson's Faith Based Initiatives are more bloated with overhead than any government agency. Just as Bush, the right pockets have to be lined with US taxpayer money even in some of the Christian ranks and I, as a Christian, find that most un-Christian.

Just as I am unafraid to address the Zionists and Neocons, I am also unafraid to address Fraudulent Christians because they are a problem and are promoting fraudulent religious activities and beliefs. They are evil wrapped in Christianity, the flag and patriotism to give the appearance of being Godly causes. They [Neocons, Zionists and Fraudulent Christians] are the classic wolf in sheep's clothing to mislead people.

The Zionists and Neocons are not saintly in their actions, motives or means. That certain Fraudulent Christians and blind Zionist Christians endorse, promote and stand behind evil acts is something that all Christians need to take a close look at and re-evaluate.

I know that I am right in this matter because I know what the biggest single fear the Zionists and Neocons is. They are terrified that the true Christian masses wake up and stand up and cast them from power. They have done an excellent job of propaganda, buying off the right Fraudulent Christian leaders to keep spreading their lies and spread the message and policies of sin quite well. They are terrified that something happens to wake up the Christians and there is a groundswell of rejection to their evil ways.

They do it, and they rely on, mass confusion and chaos to cloud the issues. They rely on built in prejudices against Islamic and Arabic peoples to keep selling their evil. They rely on divisiveness in the Christian ranks so the largest single voting block in America will not wake up, atone for their blindness and have a true change in D.C. by cleaning house.

They also rely on other built in prejudices to keep matters in the shades of gray area rather than simple black and white, or wrong versus right.

One of the members that receive this email update sent this to me on December 11, 2005.


Hello Karl,

Some character calling himself John Knight has been sending me emails with requests to be added to his "list" whatever that is.

his return address is listed as christianparty@gmx.net

He, after 2 or 3 requests now shows me his hand.


*************

"J***,

Of more than 3,000 who've taken the poll so far, 90% want to repatriate blacks to Liberia. Here's you chance to express your opinion too http://blackexile.com

Thanks,
John Knight"


My first reaction when I read that was to note that evidently Mr. Knight either did not check what he wrote or he is just another racially bigoted illiterate Christian Fraud hiding his bigotry behind a pretense of being a Christian. If you note in what he wrote, his last sentence has a syntax error where "you" should read "your". His email and the website he is pushing is the Christian Party and with a message like the bigotry he espouses I know before I read a word that this is yet another Fraud Christian group. After I read it, I was thoroughly convinced.

If I remember how to do the math in my head (uh), we have 2,700 like-minded racially bigoted fraudulent Christians that wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Knight. When I read something like this email it infuriates me at the level of unmitigated ignorance we have in this nation and the level of racial bigotry that has led to many problems that would have gone away years ago but for idiots like Mr. Knight and his like-minded bigots. Evidently Mr. Knight is relatively unaware that 3,000 divided by almost 300,000,000 in America makes him and his bigot buddies a minority of about one-hundred thousandth of a percent or 0.00001. He is almost a nano-blip on American opinion.

You know, Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing, but not Freedom of Hate or Freedom of Ignorance. Sadly, America has way too many that are ignorant and hate for no reason but hate.

While fraudulent Christians like Mr. Knight discreetly and surreptitiously spread their hatred, it makes me want to initiate a campaign to exile such people from this Nation. If Mr. Knight were to get his way, you can rest assured that the next "mission" of these bigoted red-necks that pretend they are on some Christian mission for God would be to start a similar campaign to rid the U.S. of Jews, Hispanics, those of Islamic, Hindu, Pakistani, Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Eskimo descent. Probably the Native Americans too since they do not share this White Cracker's mindset of bigotry and ethnic cleansing by secret poll and exile. They might even have a hidden desire to get rid of German-Americans like myself. I know I am American, a Patriot and a true Christian and I clearly see Mr. Knight and his brethren to be what they are. They are not in my group of Real Patriots and Real Christians and I thank God for that.

Religious bigotry is to me sinful and not allowed for any true Christian.

Racial bigotry is not remotely suggested in the Bible as being Christian or acceptable to God. Even our Declaration of Independence cites "all men are created equal".

Taking huge amounts of money from the U.S. government, in a clear violation of separation of Church and State, is never mentioned in the Bible as being on the Excluded Sin list. Those purported Christian leaders that accept billions and then guide their flocks in how to vote are nothing but paid prostitutes to me.

Every now and then we get some racially bigoted idiot like Mr. Knight trying to get on the Gravy Train of Christian Fundamentalism and come out with a message that is totally un-Christian.

I am quite certain that bigotry is a sin. I am quite certain that the type of bigotry espouse

Anonymous said...

"Bend council candidates all over map in fundraising
By Erin Golden / The Bulletin"

The City Council election is nonpartisan.

Eckman said this election is the first time she’s received money from political action groups. She said the builders and real estate agents are supportive of her because of her earlier work in city government.

“I personally am very well known here, and I’m not necessarily pro-development but I’ve been very supportive of business,” she said.

Anonymous said...

Mention JEEBUS, and what comes to OUR mind is BEND-ORYGUN, 1031, and ... real-estate, of course big-tittys, jeebus like to titty-fuck with his big dick,...

Join us at church every sunday for california re-location day, where we wife swap, and play hide the crucifix.

This message paid for by
Bend Christian realtors, an agent for Sisters Oregon, for Sunriver Oregon, and as a Central Oregon real estate professionals.

Anonymous said...

CACB what happens to JEEBUS if this goes below $1???

1.01
-0.12 (-10.62%)

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Bend dealership quitting GM
Faced with tight credit at GMAC, Murray & Holt downscales

Murray & Holt will become a used-car dealership.

“We will be operating the same as today — (but) without Pontiac, GMC and Buick,” he said. “We will still be offering service, parts and used cars and trucks.”


Ummm... the piece makes it sound like they are "downsizing". They're actually more or less ceasing to exist as a new dealership, and will become a used car lot.

Holt said the change will result in layoffs, but he could not estimate how many.

“What we’ll do now is scale to the level of business that we anticipate doing,” he said. “When you don’t have new cars, you don’t need as many people.”

Customers who bought cars in the Pontiac, GMC and Buick lines that are serviced under warranty at Murray & Holt will need to find another GM dealer to service those cars, Holt said.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

jeebus like to titty-fuck with his big dick...

Even ATHEISTS like me recoil at that! Cuz if there is a God, you're going straight to hell!

Anonymous said...

Just as I am unafraid to address the Zionists and Neocons, I am also unafraid to address Fraudulent Christians because they are a problem and are promoting fraudulent religious activities and beliefs. They are evil wrapped in Christianity, the flag and patriotism to give the appearance of being Godly causes. They [Neocons, Zionists and Fraudulent Christians] are the classic wolf in sheep's clothing to mislead people.

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It's a mouthful, but under BUSH much of the FRAUD money was used to do gods work here in Bend.

Anonymous said...

Even ATHEISTS like me recoil at that! Cuz if there is a God, you're going straight to hell!

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If there is a GOD, then Bend's Baby Jeebus, and most of BEND is going to hell.

Anonymous said...

Butter Atheist, ...

Pray tell, why did these christian wives in BEND enlarge their tits? Why did their husbands enlarge their penises?

Why did jeebus hang out with whores, and enjoy wine? Why did he as carpenter build and flip homes.

Praise the lord, the lord works in strange ways.

Anonymous said...

Customers who bought cars in the Pontiac, GMC and Buick lines that are serviced under warranty at Murray & Holt will need to find another GM dealer to service those cars, Holt said.

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Warranty pay-back usually takes month to get paid by GM back east, me humble opinion is that with the BK, these boyz know that no matter how much work they expend, they're working for 'free'. Suspending warranty service, means they can't get new cars, but they're cutting their loss.

Want better proof that GM is extinct??

No more checks coming from Detroit, who would have guessed?

Go try and find someone to 'honor' your warranty and quick, if you have a 'made in USA' auto.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The stimulus

The stimulus package is expected to save or create 44,100 jobs in Oregon’s five congressional districts over two years.

There's the rub, "save". You notice that Knife River, when they are FLOODED with cash, says they'll pretty much only re-instate laid off Knife River employees, NOT hire new ones.

Then after the job is through, they'll be laid off again.

That's what I'm worried about: this stimulus is about PROJECT WORK, hiring back freshly unemployed workers, putting them back to work temporarily, then laying them off again.

This thing might provide about 6-8 months of jobs, then we're back to where we are now. Except we'll be an additional $1 trillion in debt.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Want better proof that GM is extinct??

Yeah, GM is dead. Giving them money is like setting it on fire. The exec's & Unions are doing all in their power to kill that thing.

Anonymous said...

Obama: Stimulus to save 3.5M jobs, put Americans to work
Bizjournals.com - 2 hours ago
President Barack Obama signed the $787 billion economic stimulus package

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Now we're going to 'save' jobs, not create new jobs.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

JOBS: 8,600 created or saved east of Cascades

Notice the whole piece is about the private sector suckling at the Fed's teet. That's all this area knows to do. When it comes down to it, most of Oregon is a pack of suckerfish on the Federal Gov't shark. We'd perish without a healthy host.

Anonymous said...

That's what I'm worried about: this stimulus is about PROJECT WORK, hiring back freshly unemployed workers, putting them back to work temporarily, then laying them off again.

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I mentioned this the other day to read the 'defn' a 'job' under the OREO stimulus.

Any hiring no longer how short, so long as your being paid, constitutes as a job. So even if someone is hired for 'one-day' in LaPine to pickup pine-cones that is to be 'construed as having created a permanent job'.

Anonymous said...

Notice the whole piece is about the private sector suckling at the Fed's teet. That's all this area knows to do. When it comes down to it, most of Oregon is a pack of suckerfish on the Federal Gov't shark. We'd perish without a healthy host.

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I'm worried about this, in the past five years MOSS robbed the CITY of BEND, to fund 'jobs' KNIFE-RIVER (MDU), but now with the FED's directly feeding KNIFE-RIVER(MDU) what useful service is there for MOSS?

I don't think that she'll be needed. Now that BEND is broke, and ALL $$$ will be coming from the FED's, will MOSS reinvent herself and sit on a FEDERAL STIMULUS CORP-WELFARE Handout panel??

The other good one they had was about building roads, for every $1M that knife-river gets, that's a dozen jobs!!!! Whoopee.

BUY MDU STOCK!!!! or join team moss and get it for free!!!!

Anonymous said...

Obama to Unveil Foreclosure Prevention Program
Washington Post - 57 minutes ago
By Renae Merle President Obama will unveil today a $75 billion foreclosure prevention program, which the administration expects to reach up to 9 million homeowners.

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Excuuuuuuse me, but this is $8k/home, at the very least in Bend even today the $400k flipper is worth $200k and dropping, that be $200k/home underwater.

What does $8k/home accomplish? Pay their MTG for six months, .e.g. deferral of the NOD.

So handout $8k to 10M homeowners that meet what criteria? A government job?

Strange.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

In case you missed it, Textron class A COLLAPSED yesterday, getting whacked for 50%.

Textron (TXT) is the beloved parent company of Columbia Air (aka Cessna).

Textron started 2008 near $70. Now at $6 and change.

Textron drew down ALL of a $3 billion line of credit, primarily for their finance arm.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Textron Class A:

52 wk high: $540/sh
52 wk low: $65/sh

Today: $65/sh.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Obama sets aside $75 billion to slow foreclosures


Classic. We're going to blow $75 BILLION to "SLOW" foreclosures.

Despite enormous evidence that the vast majority of loan mod's do not work. There's NO WAY to slice & dice your way out of a house with a crushing mortgage debt, when you're not making enough.

They've tried. It, AT MOST, just leaves the borrower WORSE OFF than when they started. They make 2-3 more payments & end up in a cardboard box, instead of KEEPING THE MONEY, and really planning for the worst... which inevitably comes.

The loan mod's are for the banks benefit ONLY. NO ONE WINS except the bansk with these. The borrowers end up in the street.

Bewert said...

Re:
Read Eckmans own words on this last campaign, note I write about HER history, ... NOTE that the point in the last twenty years is that ECKMAN has always BOUGHT her way into city-hall, and this time also it was largely her OWN MONEY. Unlike you PUSSY who has NO fucking HISTORY of BEND, I look at the BIG PICTURE, not the little PUSSY picture of what they FEED ME.

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You can believe what she is feeding you about herself with the BULL's honest, thorough reporting or you can trust your own eyes:

Orestar Election Filings DB--Kathie Eckman

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That's like telling us Oran is going to fix this city because he cares when in reality he was the mayor when street SDCs were set at about 1/3 what they should have been just as tbe bubble was gaining speed, and is on the council again as part of the Bully Five when the sewer SDCs will be set in the near future. Think they will be high enough to pay for upgrading the currently at capacity treatment plant?

You can make up your own version of history all you want, but don't expect us to believe it any more than we believe the BULL.

Bewert said...

Buffett Watch: The Oracle Sells America

Jim Cramer

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Struggling. I'm struggling this morning with some of the things that Warren Buffett is doing with his cash these days. I am struggling because he is selling America, selling Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble, selling ConocoPhillips and selling U.S. Bancorp.

What's more American than these stocks? These are not small trimmings. He sold more than half of his 52 million shares of Johnson & Johnson and he sold it at a 20-year low relative to its yield. That doesn't sound like "Buy America." That sounds like "Sell America." Yet, on Oct. 16, 2008, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average at 9000 and the S&P 500 at 950, Buffett penned a now-famous op-ed submission to The New York Times saying it was time to buy America. Those who bought America that day are feeling ... well, downright un-American. Or at least they're feeling poorer.

Mind you, this isn't Boone Pickens selling almost all of his energy positions while predicting oil will double, although that's some benchmark. Who knows why Pickens is selling? I think the market's given him a real whopping. But whenever you say that any rich person has lost money, one whom we respected, you can expect to get corrected posthaste. So, I will simply leave the sales and the facts out there and let Pickens arrive at a story arc.

No, these are sales by Buffett. The "out" Buffett always has is that he buys for the long term. I have no problem with that if you are really rich because you aren't worrying about losing your house or putting food on the table or putting a kid through school. I have argued mightily that it isn't a fair time frame for the hundreds of millions of Americans -- lotsa people -- who aren't rich. However, as long as Buffett was buying and not selling, or as long as he was at least holding, you couldn't knock him.

But now it turns out he's putting a terminal value on something we thought we were to hold forever.

I am sensitive to this missive of his because the same time that he wrote it, I said it was time to exit stocks. And as they rallied after I repeated that multiple times, finally culminating in a call at Dow 10,000 that amounted plain and simple to if you needed money for a major purchase for the next year then you should exit American stocks.

Now, Buffett doesn't have to answer for anything. He has had a long and distinguished career and is obviously a tremendous investor. But it is fair to say that many, many people relied on his judgment to buy stocks just like the quintessential American names of Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson.

To them, what can I say? "Don't worry about it"?

In that now-fated editorial, Buffett wrote that those in cash are making a bet that they will be able to get in again, and that's often a foolish bet. He continued that those waiting for the comfort of good news are ignoring hockey great Wayne Gretzky's advice: "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."

Looks like those who waited can now buy all the JNJ and PG they want. They are much lower than Oct. 16, 2008. The puck never got there. And, in this horrible market, cash and patience will beat "buy high and sell low" any day of the week. American or not. Sobering.

I think that Buffett's actions should be scrutinized just like anyone else's. I have been turned on to this view by my good friend Doug Kass, who has been on this case for months now. In fact, I have talked to the editors and we are starting a "Buffett Watch" to see what is happening with Berkshire Hathaway as it lurches from Johnson & Johnson and U.S. Bancorp to General Electric and Goldman Sachs and Tiffany and Harley-Davidson.

We need to know what's happening. Buffett's firm is too big, and he is too important to ignore. We need to know daily and some institution has to have the guts to do it. Glad it's us.

At the time of publication, Cramer was long Johnson & Johnson, ConocoPhillips, General Electric and Goldman Sachs.

Anonymous said...

Now, Buffett doesn't have to answer for anything. He has had a long and distinguished career and is obviously a tremendous investor. But it is fair to say that many, many people relied on his judgment to buy stocks just like the quintessential American names of Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson.

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Buffeeetee is a made-off, I have said this all along, ... he's going down, BRK.A was down 5% yesterday,

Boy everytime CACB gets near 1.00 MOSS step's in and buys all she can, ... good thing that CACB has authorized buy-back, .... throw good money after bad, only in BEND.

BUTTER search the prior 200 posts for $25M a story about how MOSS lost $25M on a CALI PONZI SCAM.

Anonymous said...

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You can believe what she is feeding you about herself with the BULL's honest, thorough reporting or you can trust your own eyes:

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It doesn't matter what you think BP, ECKMAN bought her way to office in every election the post 20 yrs, and she has cred and respect, you have neither.

ECKMAN has a rich hubby, you have a poor bike shop wife, you are NO eckman pussy.

Anonymous said...

[Teater] is on the council again as part of the Bully Five when the sewer SDCs will be set in the near future. Think they will be high enough to pay for upgrading the currently at capacity treatment plant?

The GOBs already have served notice that they don't intend to pay for it, and the Bully Five will do what the GOBs want.

The argument you always hear against raising SDCs is that "all of us benefit from development." This basically is bullshit. I've never been able to figure out how the supposed benefits I reap from growth outweigh the higher taxes I have to pay, the hassle and waste of time that comes with increased congestion and the overall deterioration of my (ahem) "quality of life."

Anonymous said...

Odd that Buster doesn't think Les Schwab was rich but he thinks the Eckmans are rich.

Paul Eckman is a retired MD. The Eckmans are well-off, but far from what I'd call "rich." Not in the Schwab league, definitely.

Bewert said...

They are even talking it up in the message boards:

Discussions for Cascade Bancorp

One of the small best banks
Only 1 message in discussion

From: jog...@gmail.com -
Date: Tues, Feb 17 2009 2:20 am
Email: jog...@gmail.com

Good racios, growth, good and conservative management. Should
outperform

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Ah, yes, good ratios and conservative management...

They are trying like hell to save this thing. Same with CBBO. Drive the price up overnight hoping and praying the selling pressure will subside. And it hasn't yet.

Maybe tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

>The below is a DROP in the bucket ( of the over $30k she spent ), the majority of MONEY that Eckman USED to BUY her Mayorship came from her own pocket.

This is how fuckhead works. He put's out "facts" and when the "facts" are confronted with FACTS, he dismisses them as not significant.

Did you add up the donations?

$23,896.34

"A drop in the bucket." If she spent $30k of her own money then she only received 44.34% of her money from these donations.


Then quick... change the subject so nobody questions you.

She received almost half of her money for this election by people she is now beholden to. FACT

Anonymous said...

Why would you take the $30k as true? It's Buster. He made that up.

If we take his other statement as fact: $30k, that's what it costs in Bend to be mayor.

24k/30k = 80%

If it costs just $30k to be mayor then she received 80% of her funds.

Who knows how much was really spent? No buster... you don't.

Anonymous said...

Aaaaahhh... 0%, 80%... what's the difference?

DROP IN THE BUCKET

Anonymous said...

YOU FUCKERS DON'T KNOW HISTORY!!!

History, MOTHER FUCKERS.

For example: Bend has never been bankrupt in it's HISTORY, therefore it will not be bankrupt ever.

Eckman never took money before, therefore she CANNOT be corrupted by it now.

KUNT

Bewert said...

I'm just saying that this time she bought her way in with developer money as well.

Anonymous said...

Well PUSSY, you need to ignore the FACTS and pay attention to the HISTORY. The history in MY HEAD. Listen to what I SAY, not what the "facts" show.

KUNT. FUCK. SHIT. COCK. AAAAAHHH...

Anonymous said...

Odd that Buster doesn't think Les Schwab was rich but he thinks the Eckmans are rich.

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No PBM, I was saying that compared to the wife that supports BP, that eckman was rich.

Schwab is dead PBM, why do you keep trying to bring him back to life, don't you know that history has ended??

Anonymous said...

So who is the FRONT for the below, and don't say CORA & COBA, because that is meaningless. What is the name of the person associated with each of these PAC's that gave Eckman money??


465943 View Transaction 10/12/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors PAC Cash Contribution $2,000.00

439976 View Transaction 10/09/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $1,00

461085 View Transaction 10/18/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $5,603.84

455367 View Transaction 10/15/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $813.50

465914 View Transaction 10/20/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregon Association of Realtors In-Kind Contribution $1,250.00

491941 View Transaction 10/23/2008 Amended Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Deschutes County Republican Central Committee Cash Contribution $500.00

478224 View Transaction 10/28/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing In-Kind Contribution $379.00

470703 View Transaction 10/27/2008 Original Kathie Eckman for Bend City Council Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing Cash Contribution $3,500.00

Anonymous said...

>What is the name of the person associated with each of these PAC's that gave Eckman money??

It doesn't matter!!! It's a DROP IN THE BUCKET!!


KUNT. PUSSY. BALLS. AAAAHHHHH

Anonymous said...

The lies and mis-information are getting really deep around here.

The BULL, if we're to take that as FACT reported that Eckman had spent $17K on the election, and that a 1/3 of that was her own money. At that time she reported that it was the first time she had ever taken PAC money, note that all prior times she had ran for election, that she had used her own money.

Now what is the truth?

I don't really care about what she did this time, I'm more interested in 'history' the past, why she has the credibility and love that she has now, and why she is trusted, and why they handed her the mayors position.

History really does matter.

A couple years ago one guy spent over $30k and didn't get elected, winning office in BEND is NOT just about money. Teater shows that, he didn't even run and won, and didn't spend a dime of anyones money to win, his own or some COBA front for HOLLERN.

Anonymous said...

>What is the name of the person associated with each of these PAC's that gave Eckman money??

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It does matter, WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHY, & WHERE matters even in BEND.

The PUSSY has told us he don't care about WHY.

THE SORE/BULL don't care about real journalism.

If we're going to talk about Eckman's PAC money, then let's CUT the bullshit and talk about exactly who owns each of these PAC's exactly where the money came from. Well one we know well the local RNC, and they got their money from Summit-1031.

Anonymous said...

Butter always says "We don't do stupid", but that said, stupid has never been better on this site when the pussy is in form.

Anonymous said...

>The BULL, if we're to take that as FACT reported that Eckman had spent $17K on the election, and that a 1/3 of that was her own money.

We can't take that as FACT as it is shown she took in $24k. If she spent $17k, of which $5667 was hers then she only spent $11,333 of the $24K that she was given.

Where did the rest of the money go?

Anonymous said...

Buster,

This morning you were saying that Eckman spent all her own money, and the Pussy was wrong.

Now you are saying that we need to know who all the people are that gave money so we can understand the motivations - which I agree with.

So, do you admit that this morning you were wrong?

Anonymous said...

Name: Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing ID: 5490
Acronym: PAC Type: Miscellaneous
Statement Effective From: 09/06/2006 to present Filing Type: Original
Address: 61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702 Campaign Phone:
Treasurer Information
Name: Tim Knopp
Mailing Address: 61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702 Work Phone:
Home Phone:
Fax: (541)389-1058

Email Address:
Nature of Committee
Secondary Filing Officer: to Support Candidates and Issues Related to Housing Industry

Anonymous said...

BP find the public doc's for "Tim Knopps" fronts so we can see where he gets his money, and it ain't from COBA.

20k developers have are out nationally in the last two years, this money ain't coming from COBA, its coming from a few concerned boss-hoggs,

Anonymous said...

Pussy read the below very carefully, this BUZZARD has a long history of NOT complying with election laws and finance requirements. This group 'affordable housing' refuses to tell the State of Orygun where it gets its money.

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BEFORE THE SECRETARY OF STATE
OF THE
STATE OF OREGON
In the matter of a Late Contribution and Expenditure Report
by Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing, Tim Knopp,
Treasurer, for the Second Pre-Election for the
November 7, 2006, General Election
)
) Final Order
)
) Case No. L9044
June 8, 2007
Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702
Dear Mr. Knopp:
This is a Final Order issued by the Secretary of State (secretary) for your failure to file a timely
second pre-election contribution and expenditure report for the November 7, 2006, General
Election.
On April 12, 2007, the secretary notified Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing
(committee), pursuant to ORS 260.232(2), that it had failed to file the report and that the
secretary may impose a civil penalty. An opportunity for a hearing was provided in that notice.
The committee submitted written testimony in the form of a notarized statement in lieu of a
personal appearance at a public hearing. Accordingly, after consideration of the applicable law
and evidence presented, Jennifer Hertel, Hearings Officer with the Elections Division, is
entering the following Order.
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The committee’s Statement of Organization (SEL 221), applicable during the reporting
period, was filed with the secretary as a secondary filing officer on September 5, 2006. The
statement reported Tim Knopp as the treasurer and 61396 S Hwy 97 #203, Bend, OR 97702 as
the address to which all committee correspondence was to be sent. The statement
designated Deschutes County as the principal filing officer.
2. The committee was required to file a second pre-election report with the secretary on
October 26, 2006.
3. The secretary sent the committee a notice that it had failed to file a timely report on
October 27, 2006. The notice was sent by first class mail to the treasurer at the above-
referenced address.
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Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
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4. The secretary received the report on October 30, 2006, which is two business days after the
date on which the report was due.
5. The committee reported total contributions of $6,000.00 and total expenditures of $25,850.00
during the accounting period for the report.
6. On April 12, 2007, the secretary sent the committee a Notice of Proposed Civil Penalty. The
notice was sent by both certified and first class mail to the treasurer at the above-referenced
address. The notice proposed a civil penalty of $51.70 and allowed the committee 20 days to
request a hearing. The notice sent by certified mail was received and signed for by
Sonia Burns on April 16, 2007.
7. On April 27, 2007, the secretary received a notarized letter from Tim Knopp in lieu of a
public hearing.
8. The letter—attached as Exhibit A—was reviewed, considered, and made part of the record.
9. The secretary has record of no previous late filings during the two-year period beginning
September 15, 2005.
ULTIMATE FINDINGS OF FACT
Tim Knopp, Treasurer, failed to file a timely second pre-election contribution and expenditure
report for the November 7, 2006, General Election.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
Treasurer Tim Knopp’s failure to file a timely second pre-election contribution and expenditure
report for the November 7, 2006, General Election violated ORS 260.073.
OPINION
The Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing’s second pre-election contribution and
expenditure report, filed on October 30, 2006, was late. It was due by 5:00 p.m., October 26,
2006.
By statute, a maximum $10,000 civil penalty may be imposed for this violation. The 2006
Campaign Finance Manual, which contains a penalty calculation matrix on pages 104–106, is
designated in OAR 165-012-0005 as the procedure manual for Oregon campaign finance
regulations.
After reviewing and considering the evidence and information on file in this office, the hearings
officer finds that there has been a violation of Oregon election law. The explanation provided in
the notarized testimony does not adequately mitigate the failure to file a report by the deadline.
The testimony asserts that Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing did submit the second
pre-election contribution and expenditure report timely and that the mitigating circumstance
which caused the late filing is filing officer error.
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Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
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Attached to the testimony are a copy of the notice of late report, two fax cover sheets (one dated
October 23, 2006, and one dated October 30, 2006), a copy of the first pre-election amendment
and a copy of the second pre-election report. The testimony states that on October 30, 2006, the
committee had a discussion with the Elections Division and determined by fax record reports
that the contribution and expenditure report was received on October 23, 2006.
The Elections Division reviewed the fax log. An entry on October 23, 2006, recorded receipt of a
fax from Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing, and that two pages were received – the
first pre-election amendment and a cover sheet. After reviewing the contribution and
expenditure file for the committee, there are only two pages date-stamped October 23, 2006; a
fax transmittal coversheet dated October 23, 2006, “Re: Secondary Filing Amendment” and a
PC 9 amendment form. When the second pre-election report was faxed on October 30, 2006, the
fax transmittal coversheet was identified as “Re: Second Filing”. The Elections Division has no
record of receiving the second pre-election report before October 30, 2006.
The fax cover sheets are not proof that the report was faxed by the deadline; they are not even
confirmation sheets indicating that a fax actually was transmitted. Page 7 of the 2006 Campaign
Finance Manual states: “A fax transmittal confirmation indicating a successful transmission does
not guarantee or prove a report was filed timely.” The hearings officer does not find filing
officer error in the case. While this is an unfortunate incident, it is not a mitigating circumstance
in which the secretary would reduce or waive the penalty.
Under the penalty matrix, the maximum statutory penalty of $10,000 is reduced to 1% of the
total contributions or total expenditures—whichever is greater—for each business day the
report was late as this is the first late violation by the treasurer. Additionally, the penalty for
late filing with a secondary filing officer is 10% of what the penalty would be if filed late with
the principal filing officer, only if the report is filed timely with the principal filing officer. In
this case, the report was timely filed with the principal filing officer.
ORDER
It is ordered that a penalty of $51.70 ($25,850.00 x 1% x 2 days x 10%) is assessed. If your
payment is not received within 60 days from the date of service noted below, this Order will be
sent to our accounting division for collection and may be subsequently sent to the Oregon
Department of Revenue.
Please refer to case number L9044 when mailing your payment.
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Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
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RIGHT TO JUDICIAL REVIEW
You have the right to appeal this Order to the Oregon Court of Appeals pursuant to
ORS 183.482. To appeal you must file a petition for judicial review with the Court of Appeals
within 60 days from the day this Order was served to you. Because this Order was mailed to
you, the date of service is the day it was mailed, not the day you received it.

Anonymous said...

We can't take that as FACT as it is shown she took in $24k. If she spent $17k, of which $5667 was hers then she only spent $11,333 of the $24K that she was given.

Where did the rest of the money go?

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I wish you people would quit bantying around with this 'term' FACTS, we're just DOGS pissing on a rock.

What we do HERE is throw ALL the shit on the rock or table, and then tear it apart and make sense. EVERYONE PUTS down their opinion, and we lay it all out, and then we try to make something of ALL the information.

I don't buy that the above $24k is what she got, I don't buy either what I read in the BULL about $17k.

But what I personally DO KNOW from my own personal years in BEND, is that in PRIOR elections ECKMAN bought office with her own money.

What apply's to ECKMAN on this game right now of TEARING apart who got what, also apply's to everyone of the fucking ASSHOLES that sits on CityCouncil today. So in no way am I saying that Eckman is good or bad, all the assholes are OWNED by COBA front we know, this is NOT new info.

The pussy seems to have an ax for Eckman, I could care less, like I said last week I want BEND fixed, and most OLD-TIMERS like me, dunc, and even lava agreed that the old-timer pols ( chamber pot of commerce ) were more likely to fix BEND than the newbie progressive shit-eaters like aber-pussy, or friedman, or hummel,

Anonymous said...

6am: "A good note on Eckman is she's the only one who BUYS her seat with her own money" and it was FACT.

6:30am Pussy shows it wasn't fact.

7am "The below is a DROP in the bucket ( of the over $30k she spent ), the majority of MONEY that Eckman USED to BUY her Mayorship came from her own pocket." and it was FACT

Sometime between 7am and 11:30am Buster realizes Pussy is right. Must put Pussy in place.... oh yeah... haven't pulled out the "You don't ask why" card in 3 days.

Noon Buster looks into it and realizes there is some fishy shit going on. Maybe his version of HISTORY is flawed.

Bewert said...

A correction to a recent statement I made about sewer SDCs being implemented soon--they were actually implemented on July 2, 2008 on 7-0 votes. Of course, they have been since deferred.

From the Issue Summary:

STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends adopting the Water and Sewer SDC
Methodologies after holding a public hearing.

ISSUE / COUNCIL DECISION & DISCUSSION POINTS:
Council is asked to:
A) Hold a Public Hearing to hear testimony from the public on implementation of a new Water SDC of $4,449 equivalent dwelling unit (EDU) and a new Sewer SDC of $2,800 per EDU.
B) Consider the attached Resolutions adopting the methodologies and Water and Sewer SDC amounts effective July 7, 2008.

The City engaged Galardi Consulting LLC to prepare the Water and Sewer SDC methodologies which were completed in May 2008.

Highlights of the methodologies which Council is requested to adopt are as follows:
1. Planning period for the methodology assumes facilities sized for built-out in 2030
2. Capital improvement costs (in 2007 dollars) total $182.9 million for water and $109.3 million for sewer.
3. An Equivalent Dwelling Unit basis is used for calculating the SDC; (EDU capacity for water is 977 gallons per day and for sewer is 499 gallons per day)

The City’s current water SDC is $3,385 and sewer SDC is $2,038. The new SDC methodology proposes a 31% increase in the water SDC and a 37% in the sewer SDC.

BACKGROUND: ORS 223.297-223.314 authorizes local governments to assess SDCs for certain capital improvements and provides guidelines on the calculation and modification of SDCs. The current Water and Sewer SDC methodology was prepared and adopted in 1993.

CURRENT YEAR BUDGET IMPACTS (Department): Current year budget anticipates increase in SDC fee.

FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE & RECOMMENDATION (Finance): The City’s water and sewer systems have significant infrastructure needs to service projected growth. Funding for such infrastructure is dependent on the SDCs. From 1993 through 2006, the City collected only 75% of the allowable Water SDC and 60% of the allowable Sewer SDC as calculated by the 1993 methodology. This caused a disproportionate allocation of costs between development and existing users.

Although the increase is significant, the new water and sewer SDCs proposed are necessary to allow the City to finance and fund needed infrastructure and will also allocate the cost of
infrastructure caused by growth to development.

Below is a listing of water and sewer SDCs charged by various cities in Oregon. Note that SDCs are determined based on the projected capital needs of the City. Because each city’s
needs are different, it is hard to make a fair comparison.

City Water SDC Sewer SDC

Gresham 5,056 4,153
Bend (new) 4,449 2,800
Wilsonville 4,153 7,002
Portland 3,258 2,681
Redmond 3,158 3,138
Woodburn 2,977 1,452
Salem 2,804 4,183
West Linn 2,632 4,628
Lake Oswego 2,125 2,332
Klamath Falls 1,955 2,352

COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROCESS: Representatives from the Central Oregon Builders Association (COBA) were involved in the development of the methodologies. City staff met with COBA to share various drafts of the methodology, discuss concerns and answer questions throughout the development of the methodologies. COBA has communicated to staff that they have no objections to the methodology. COBA also hired a consultant to review the methodology and the consultant found the methodology to be acceptable.

PROS & CONS:
Pros: Adopting the proposed SDCs will ensure adequate funding and financing capacity for water and sewer capital needs and also update the existing methodology which was adopted
back in 1993.

Cons: Proposed Increase is significant and adds to the cost of building.

Anonymous said...

Since this guy controls the BEND HONEY POT, our first order of affairs it to find out where he's getting the money to fund our BEND electorate.

Given he's habitual late filer, my guess is that 2008 is still not avail, but NO DOUBT those that OWNED him in 2006, or those that OWN him NOW.

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Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702
Dear Mr. Knopp:
This is a Final Order issued by the Secretary of State (secretary) for your failure to file a timely
second pre-election contribution and expenditure report for the November 7, 2006, General
Election.

Anonymous said...

Sometime between 7am and 11:30am Buster realizes Pussy is right. Must put Pussy in place.... oh yeah... haven't pulled out the "You don't ask why" card in 3 days.

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We all piss on the rock, the pussy is a newbie and obsessed by what he is fed today, I dwell on the past, and care not about today, I reflect on WHY they gave ECKMAN the mayorship, and it had NOTHING to do with finance from COBA.

ECKMAN is a habitual city-hall gad-fly just like the pussy, but the diff is that her hubby buys her elections and has been doing so for decades. People like her, she is a well natured person, she a nut case, and obsessed with 'money mommas', but if Pussy had her money he would be promoting 'money mormons'. Nobody trusts her with REAL decisions, she really is our OWN Sarah PALIN, a cheer-leader PUG done good, and pretty face ( long ago ) to boot!!! A native BURNS, ORYGUN girl that moved to BEND and did go marrying a doctor richer than HBM.


At 6am this AM, I was writing about HISTORY of ECKMAN, my gut feeling on the MOST recent election is that 1/2 the money was used for her most recent election was her own, the BULL & HER reported 1/3. The truth will take months, as all partys will delay filing the required campaign finance info, but so what ...

Like I said I don't find TODAY interesting, I find "HISTORY" interesting the history of ECKMAN is fascinating.

She's gad-fly just like PUSSY, and her hubby buys her elections, shes been elected many times, but always quits of boredom, and this time she wanted to be MAYOR and demanded such, the rumor from insiders I KNOW is that she had some black mail on TELFER to win the important vote that made her mayor, to me that black-mail is more interesting that COBA giving ECKMAN money.

What ME & THE PUSSY find interesting is different, DUH,

Anonymous said...

BPussy WHO IS FINANCING THIS GUY?? WHERE ARE THE RECORDS??

Where is this report he is being fined?? Shit $50 fine, did he ever even file at all?? Probably not.

Typical BULL in BEND, delay in filing until its not news anymore and then the BULL will never report the information. Imagine that?? Who would have guessed.

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Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing (005490)
Tim Knopp, Treasurer
61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702

Dear Mr. Knopp:
This is a Final Order issued by the Secretary of State (secretary) for your failure to file a timely
second pre-election contribution and expenditure report for the November 7, 2006, General
Election.

Bewert said...

Re: The pussy seems to have an ax for Eckman, I could care less, like I said last week I want BEND fixed, and most OLD-TIMERS like me, dunc, and even lava agreed that the old-timer pols ( chamber pot of commerce ) were more likely to fix BEND than the newbie progressive shit-eaters like aber-pussy, or friedman, or hummel,

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"From 1993 through 2006, the City collected only 75% of the allowable Water SDC and 60% of the allowable Sewer SDC as calculated by the 1993 methodology. This caused a disproportionate allocation of costs between development and existing users."

Bewert said...

Persons Associated with Committee
Committee Information
Name: Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing ID: 5490
Statement Effective From: 09/06/2006 to present Filing Type: Original

Treasurer Name
Address Contact
Tim Knopp 61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702
Work Phone: (541)389-1058
Home Phone:
Fax:
Email Address:

Director Name
Effective From Effective To Address Phone Occupation / Employer
Brian Bergler 09/06/2006 Present 63088 18th St
Bend, OR 97701 (541)385-6762

Dick Cowell 09/06/2006 Present PO Box 1046
Bend, OR 97709 (541)410-3942

Tim Knopp 09/06/2006 Present 61396 S Hwy 97 #203
Bend, OR 97702 (541)389-1058

Nancy O'Conner 09/06/2006 Present 925 SW Emkay Dr #110
Bend, OR 97701 (541)322-9230

Gretchen Palmer 09/06/2006 Present 120 SW Crowell Wy
Bend, OR 97702 (541)312-7926

Bewert said...

Both CACB and CBBO got as low as .97 today. CBBO is still under a buck, on volume almost 5X average. CACB has painfully clawed its way to about even for the day on volume 2,5X average.

Anonymous said...

Damn, Eckman got almost $13,647 from the realtor and builder lobby. That's a substantial chunk for Bend.

And $500 from the Republican Central Committee? Whassup wit dat? I thought these council races were supposed to be nonpartisan. WTF???

Bewert said...

COAH Funding

Whole lot of miscellaneous under $100 contributions bundled together, in amounts as large as $40,000, $55,000 and $70,000 at once. Kind of odd, to say the least.

Anonymous said...

>We all piss on the rock, the pussy is a newbie and obsessed by what he is fed today, I dwell on the past, and care not about today,

Which is why neither of you should be implicitly trusted.

Ever.

Bewert said...

Eckman Contributions

$38,484.47 Total
$5,505.00 Personal Cash
$8,328.50 Personal In-Kind

Just the facts, ma'am. Which is more than you will find in the BULL.

Bewert said...

Hi Bruce,

I got notice of the meeting via e-mail a couple weeks ago. I was the only member of the press there, but I think one of the TV stations might have done a story. And they did not go into executive session.

Hope that helps!
Erin

--
Erin Golden
City of Bend Reporter, Bulletin

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Rather private meeting...

Bewert said...

COAH Spending

Funding: $115K
Spending: $152K

Bewert said...

This COAH thing gets more interesting the harder I look at it:

TOTAL FUNDING $115,263.40
TOTAL MISC CASH $113,113.40 98.13%

Bewert said...

COAH Spending

TOTAL SPENDING $151,991.45

Miscellaneous Cash Expenditures $100 and underTOTAL $12,009.14

Miscellaneous Personal Expenditures $100 and under TOTAL $16,432.90

Central Oregon Builders Association TOTAL $38,833.47

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This thing looks like a bit of a pass-through slush fund with anonymous donors.

hb, a BOOT topic? $150K of unknown donors money going into local politics?

Anonymous said...

MORE NUMBERS's just keep getting pulled out of the ASS, but NOTE these are 'factual' as they come from our BULL, ...8600, sort of reminds me of the perpetual $498M annual tourism gross, ...

8600 created or saved east of Cascades

Bend Bulletin, OR - 2 hours ago
Asked if he believes the stimulus will lead to more infrastructure jobs in Central Oregon, Steele said, “absolutely.” However, over at Bend’s Dent .

Anonymous said...

8,600 created or saved east of Cascades

By Andrew Moore / The Bulletin
Published: February 18. 2009 4:00AM PST

advertisement: The christian stimulus dildo

The stimulus package is expected to save or create 44,100 jobs in Oregon’s five congressional districts over two years. Job allocations were made by assessing working age population, employment and industrial composition in each of the nation’s congressional districts.
In a national context
The stimulus is estimated to create or save from layoffs 3.5 million jobs over two years. More than 90 percent will be in the private sector.
• A broad range of industries is affected, including clean energy and health care.
• The state with the largest estimated effect is California, which is allocated 396,000 jobs.
• States with the lowest are Alaska, North Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming, with 8,000 each.
Source: The White House

With Oregon’s unemployment at 9 percent — and Central Oregon’s ranging from 11.3 percent in Deschutes County to 14 percent in Crook County — a White House analysis is predicting the stimulus will create or prevent the loss of an estimated 44,100 jobs in the state over the next two years.

According to the state, there were 174,819 unemployed workers in Oregon as of December 2008, the last month for which data are available.

But apart from the construction jobs that likely will come quickly in response to the law’s emphasis on infrastructure projects, the broader hiring impact will be harder to discern and will take some time to develop, according to economists, elected officials and business owners.

Additionally, there is some concern that construction employment will be short term, but it’s hoped those initial jobs can create a ripple effect that will help stimulate the economy.

“(The estimated job amount) is your best educated guess based on studies done on previous spending in various areas, but the whole hope here is that you get back to that degree of confidence, that the banks start lending again, individuals start spending again, and that it gives a kick-start to the economy … even though we know these construction jobs are short-lived,” said Tom Potiowsky, the state’s chief economist.

The White House is estimating Oregon’s 2nd Congressional District, which includes Central Oregon, will see 8,600 jobs created or saved from layoffs in a range of industries — from clean energy to health care — with more than 90 percent in the private sector.

Rep. Greg Walden, R-Hood River, and the district’s representative, voted against the $787 billion bill, along with every other House Republican. Walden said he’s not against job creation — he said he supported a different version of the stimulus bill that would have used tax cuts to create or save an estimated 78,000 state jobs — but is against the massive debt load and risk of inflation the law brings.

“In the first year or two, it will create or retain some jobs, but my concern is long-term,” Walden said. “I don’t think that the level of funding is sustainable or very stimulative and the debt load — after 2012 the debt load becomes a drag on the economy. These are enormous, unprecedented sums.”

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act mixes tax breaks, federal program spending and state grants. Nationally, the White House estimates the law will save or create 3.5 million jobs over the next two years.

The Oregon Department of Transportation hopes to use roughly $15 million from Oregon’s chunk of stimulus funds to help pay for a road-widening project on U.S. Highway 97 south of Bend.

Randy Steele, the controller for heavy construction contractor Knife River in Bend, said if the company were to successfully bid on such a project, it would “definitely” translate to new hiring, though the first workers to be brought on would be former Knife River employees who have been furloughed or laid off.

Asked if he believes the stimulus will lead to more infrastructure jobs in Central Oregon, Steele said, “absolutely.”

However, over at Bend’s Dent Instruments, which manufactures — among other things — devices to monitor electricity usage, Vice President Tim Van Slambrouck was uncertain whether the law would lead to new hiring, even though the White House claims it will deploy 40 million “smart meters” in American homes.

“It’s a little early for us,” he said. “We’re not jumping up and down at this point, even though there are indications there are good things that are going to be happening.”

Though specifics may be unknown at this point, the law’s focus on energy efficiency measures would likely help the company in the long term, Van Slambrouck said.

Erick Petersen, a vice president at PV Powered, the Bend company that manufactures components for solar power arrays, was unable to say whether the law’s passage might lead to more hiring in 2009. The company laid off some workers last fall due to concerns over the fate of a crucial tax credit and recently trimmed its workers’ hours due to slowing demand related to the world credit crisis.

But, like Van Slambrouck, Petersen is optimistic the law sets the stage for recovery. He said the company is forecasting revenue growth in 2009, despite “challenging” economic conditions.

“A lot of this bill gets money, through tax credits and federal loan guarantees, flowing back into renewable energy,” Petersen said.

At NeighborImpact, the Redmond nonprofit that coordinates social services in Central Oregon and also is an approved housing counseling agency of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, program manager Colleen Neel is expecting she will hire some workers because of the law’s passage, thanks to its support for weatherization programs.

“In general, there aren’t contractors who want to do this type of work … and now they’re beating down our door because they’re looking for work,” Neel said.

Oregon ranks 27th in the number of jobs estimated by the White House to be saved or created by the economic stimulus. California is first, with 396,000. Neighboring Washington is 14th, with 75,000.

Andrew Moore can be reached at 541-617-7820 or amoore@bendbulletin.com.

Anonymous said...

hb, a BOOT topic? $150K of unknown donors money going into local politics?

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How about finding out where the money came from BP??? What about for two years ago when they didn't file a report, you still have to report the money.

Could have came from RNC?? Given they slush a lot, and Summit-1031 gave a lot of money to RNC.

Seems that who gave two years ago would be similar to recently, have they ever filed a report of where their revenue comes from??

Anonymous said...

Which is why neither of you should be implicitly trusted.

Ever.

*

Fuck You, NEWBIE, if you been around here for very long you would its always been TRUST NO ONE, VERIFY EVERYTHING.

Anonymous said...

And $500 from the Republican Central Committee? Whassup wit dat? I thought these council races were supposed to be nonpartisan. WTF???

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So SUMMIT-1031 gave lots of stolen money to the RNC, and HBM never got a hard-on over that.

ECKMAN is a PUG, but you know in politics the money is symbolic, its the RNC in effect throwing holy water on the PUG BITCH, and YOU KNOW IT!

Anonymous said...

"From 1993 through 2006, the City collected only 75% of the allowable Water SDC and 60% of the allowable Sewer SDC as calculated by the 1993 methodology. This caused a disproportionate allocation of costs between development and existing users."

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I know that pussy, I damn near fell off my rocking chair and broke my hip when I saw that, the pussy thinking about 1993, fuck what next??

Anonymous said...

>Fuck You, NEWBIE, if you been around here for very long you would its always been TRUST NO ONE, VERIFY EVERYTHING.

Fucking awesome. I've been around long enough to know that whenever you don't know who someone is you pull out the NEWBIE card.

Anonymous said...

Randy Steele, the controller for heavy construction contractor Knife River in Bend, said if the company were to successfully bid on such a project, it would “definitely” translate to new hiring, though the first workers to be brought on would be former Knife River employees who have been furloughed or laid off.

Asked if he believes the stimulus will lead to more infrastructure jobs in Central Oregon, Steele said, “absolutely.”

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Will KNIFE-RIVER ( MDU ), get MOST of the STIMULUS??

ABSOLUTELY

Who would have guessed.

You got to admit, the BULL knows who butters their butt.

Anonymous said...

We're sorry, brucepussy@gmail.com does not have permission to access this spreadsheet.

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The above is what I get when I try to access the spread-sheets, why don't you just fucking post the link to the material pussy?

What's the fucking point of copy public doc's and then making them non-public??? Added value?

Anonymous said...

Pussy, KURATEK was the one that applied for this grant on city behalf, doing this is what got him 'IN' on JR.

It would be interesting IF city were using federal 'affordable housing money' to elect jeebus chosen??

AFFORDABLE HOUSING - City of Bend

Community Development Block Grant Program

In April 2004, the City of Bend began its first Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program Year. The CDBG Program is a federal funding program that provides assistance for housing and community development projects that benefit low- and moderate-income persons. The funds are provided by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development and are utilized or distributed by the City of Bend.

The CDBG Program is guided by the City of Bend 2004-2009 Consolidated Plan, a comprehensive housing and community development strategy that was prepared with extensive public involvement.

Each year, the City requests proposals from organizations and agencies undertaking CDBG-eligible projects. The proposals are reviewed by the City Council's CDBG/Housing Advisory Committee, which then submits its funding recommendations for consideration and approval by the Council.

The projects selected for CDBG funding each year are outlined in the City's annual Action Plan. Click here to view the City of Bend's 2006/2007 Action Plan.

Anonymous said...

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Jim Long, CDBG/Affordable Housing Manager
(541) 312-4915 direct
(541) 385-6676 fax
jlong@ci.bend.or.us

LavaBear said...

PremierWest Bancorp out of Medford received $41m in the latest TARP give away. Sorry Cracker Ass. No TARP for you.

TARP Payouts as of Feb 17, 2009

Anonymous said...

City of Bend Affordable Housing Program

Summary of Developer Incentives



QUALIFICATION CRITERIA

Qualifying projects are those that received federal or state affordable housing funding and/or those that contain projects that are affordable to households earning at or below 100% of Area Median Income. "Affordable" housing refers to housing that requires the residents to spend no more than 30% of their household incomes on housing related expenses. For homebuyers, housing related expenses include mortgage principle and interest, taxes, property insurance, mortgage insurance and essential utilities. For renters, housing related expenses include rent and essential utilities.



INCENTIVES

At the direction of the Bend City Council, the following incentives are currently being pursued by the City of Bend:



Planning and Building Fee Exemptions

All or a portion of Planning Division and Building Division fees will be exempted for qualifying projects. Exempted fees will be paid by the City of Bend. The percentage of fees waived for any project will be proportional to the percentage of units in a development that are affordable.



Expedited Review and Permitting Processing

For any qualifying project, review and permitting processing will be expedited. Qualifying projects will be reviewed and permits issued according to the following timelines:



Planning Department: A decision will be written or the first public hearing held within 2 weeks for Type I development actions and within 6 weeks for Type II development actions:



Building Department: Preliminary review will be completed and the applicant will be notified of any deficiencies in the application, within 3 working days of the date of submittal. Once any deficiencies have been addressed, review will be completed and permits will be issued within 10 working days of the date the application is deemed complete.



System Development Charge Deferrals

For qualifying projects, SDCs will be deferred for up to 1 year. SDCs will be due upon transfer of ownership, or at the end of one year from the date the deferral is granted. Interest will not be charged for the period of deferral.



Off-site Improvement Assistance

Developers of qualifying projects will be eligible to apply for a grant from the City of Bend to assist with the cost of non-reimbursable off-site improvements. The grants will cover the cost of the off-site improvements required by the City, up to a maximum of $10,000.



Density Bonuses

For each unit in a new development that is affordable, the development will be allowed to exceed the density limit for the zone by one additional unit. Density limits may be exceeded by a maximum of 35%.



Minimum Lot Size Exemptions

Qualifying projects will be exempt from minimum lot size standards (lots will continue to be subject to minimum frontage and other requirements).







City of Bend

Developer Incentives



Section 1. Purpose: The Bend City Council defines affordable housing as housing that is available for households making up to 100 percent of median income (gross), so that they are spending no more than 30 percent of their household income on housing related expenses (e.g., rent, mortgage and essential utilities)[definition adopted by the Bend City Council on May 1, 2002].



In an effort to address some of the obstacles to the development of affordable housing, the City of Bend will offer the following incentives to developers of affordable housing:



Section 2. Developer Incentives:

A. Expedited Review and Permitting Processing: For the Community Development Department's review and permitting processes, the City of Bend will place a higher priority on projects that contain affordable units, as defined above, than projects that do not contain such units.



Qualifying projects are residential or mixed use developments that received federal or state affordable housing funding.

The procedures and timelines for expediting review and permitting processing have been established by a departmental policy of the Community Development Department.



B. System Development Charge SDC Deferrals: The City of Bend will offer SDC Deferrals to developers of housing projects that contain affordable units, as defined above.



Qualifying projects are residential or mixed use developments that receive federal or state affordable housing funding.



SDC Deferrals will be offered for a period of one (1) year at a 0% interest rate. Developers utilizing this incentive will be required to sign a Promissory Note and System Development Charge Deferral Agreement with the City of Bend. SDCs will be due in full at the end of the one (1) year deferral period.



C. System Development Charge (SDC) Loans: The City of Bend will offer SDC loans to developers of housing projects that contain affordable units, as defined above.



Qualifying projects are residential or mixed use developments that receive federal or state affordable housing funding.



SDC Loans will be offered for a period of five (5) years at a 1.5% interest rate. Developers utilizing this incentive will be required to sign a Promissory Note and System Development Charge Loan Agreement with the City of Bend. Repayments shall be made in equal monthly installments, commencing the month after the Promissory Note is signed.



Section 3. Effective Date: The Affordable Housing Developer Incentive Program will commence September 1, 2003. As of September 1, 2003, only those projects that are receiving state or federal affordable housing funding are eligible to received developer incentives through the City of Bend's Affordable Housing Developer incentive Program. Staff will continue to work toward expanding the program to also include affordable housing developments that have no such funding. In addition, staff will continue to explore additional incentives that the City may offer to developers of affordable housing.

Anonymous said...

https://builderfusion.coba.org/bf/website/memberApp.jsp

Bewert said...

COAH Spending
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUgdG_cx73J7uV-GVCCvkKg

COAH Funding
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUgdG_cx73J6ySO0jRyb0VA

Eckman
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUgdG_cx73J7OXr6W5_itQw

Sorry, forgot to publish them.

Anonymous said...

So where was the source that you found them? Please document so others can verify.

Anonymous said...

The CALI to BEND Christian Railroad.

It's more like the CALI to BEND plastic titty railroad.

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They were flat chested christians when they left cali. Are you saying they came to Bend for a st-charles implant??

It seems that the target is oldsters, that is calis that with money, that are christian are targeted, and then SOLD the notion of 'heaven on earth' in BEND, and then bussed up here to BUY @NXWC or, ...

The oldsters have the money. They want out of Cali, and BEND has churches that bleed off the ones with money up here, where they're sold homes and 1031's, ...

Bewert said...

Re: So where was the source?

Orestar, the state campaign funding database:
https://secure.sos.state.or.us/eim/cneSearch.do?cneSearchButtonName=newSearch&cneSearchPageIdx=0&sort=desc&by=TRAN_DATE&newSearch=New+Search

Put the name of the org or person in the second field, choose transaction type if you want to separate them like I did for COAH, and hit search. Then export them to and Excel database, sort and total interesting types, send it to a google doc, and publish.

Here is a search for all contributions to Jeff Eager:
https://secure.sos.state.or.us/eim/cneSearch.do?cneSearchButtonName=search&cneSearchPageIdx=&cneSearchContributorTypeName=&cneSearchTranTypeName=&cneSearchTranSubTypeName=&cneSearchTranPurposeName=&cneSearchFilerCommitteeId=&cneSearchFilerCommitteeTxt=Jeff+Eager&cneSearchFilerCommitteeTxtSearchType=C&cneSearchTranStartDate=&cneSearchTranEndDate=&cneSearchTranFiledStartDate=&cneSearchTranFiledEndDate=&cneSearchTranType=C&cneSearchTranAmountFrom=&cneSearchTranAmountTo=&cneSearchContributorTxt=&cneSearchContributorTxtSearchType=C&cneSearchContributorType=&addressLine1=&city=&state=&zip=&zipPlusFour=&occupation=&employer=&employerCity=&employerState=&search=Search

And here is that data sorted and totaled in a google spreadsheet:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUgdG_cx73J7VLV-BaAhbVw

And a short summary:
TOTAL $40,359.34

COAR and COAH TOTAL $7,300.00

Miscellaneous Cash Contributions $100 and under TOTAL $14,541.34

Bewert said...

Tom Greene

Orestar search:
https://secure.sos.state.or.us/eim/cneSearch.do?cneSearchButtonName=search&cneSearchPageIdx=0&cneSearchContributorTypeName=&cneSearchTranTypeName=&cneSearchTranSubTypeName=[Ljava.lang.String%3B%401a4c8c5&cneSearchTranPurposeName=[Ljava.lang.String%3B%40178fe5a&cneSearchFilerCommitteeId=&cneSearchFilerCommitteeTxt=Tom+Greene&cneSearchFilerCommitteeTxtSearchType=C&cneSearchTranStartDate=&cneSearchTranEndDate=&cneSearchTranFiledStartDate=&cneSearchTranFiledEndDate=&cneSearchTranType=C&cneSearchTranAmountFrom=&cneSearchTranAmountTo=&cneSearchContributorTxt=&cneSearchContributorTxtSearchType=C&cneSearchContributorType=&addressLine1=&city=&state=&zip=&zipPlusFour=&occupation=&employer=&employerCity=&employerState=&search=Search

Google doc:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUgdG_cx73J5hZ0sOLHPOZw

Short summary:
TOTAL $27,729.34

COAR and COAH TOTAL $3,780.00

Miscellaneous Cash Contributions $100 and under TOTAL $16,051.34

Bewert said...

Speaking of our fine local bank, in the race to the bottom:

CACB 1.06
-0.07 (-6.19%)
Feb 18 - Close

CBBO 0.980
-0.030 (-2.97%)
Feb 18 - Close

Bewert said...

Re: https://builderfusion.coba.org/bf/website/memberApp.jsp

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That $50 check off times 953 members accounts for $47650 of COAH funding.

Anonymous said...

Another local realtor going into default:

http://www.earlenedillard.com/

DOC TYPE: Notice of Default & Election to Sell DATE REC: 2/18/2009 11:38:45 AM
REFERENCES: 2006-064234
DIRECT: LSI TITLE COMPANY OF OREGON LLC TRUSTEE INDIRECT: DILLARD, EARLENE R
INDIRECT: DILLARD, MICHAEL U
SUBDIVISION: WILLIAMSON PARK LOT: 12 BLOCK: 3

Bewert said...

More bank losers, biggest losers of the day among all stocks over $1B cap:

Losers Change Mkt Cap
Bank of America Corp. PRF... BAC-L -16.56% 2.10B

Wells Fargo & Co. (Ne... WFC-L -15.93% 1.97B

WELLS FARGO CAP VIII GWF -15.09% 1.89B

AEGON N.V. AED -14.44% 1.93B

Wells Fargo & Co. (Ne... WFC-J -14.44% 1.52B

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