Sunday, November 9, 2008

"Gotcha!", -- media

Well, we got confirmation of exactly what I said would happen in last weeks post, regarding our Bought And Paid For Whorehouse City Council:

What do new faces mean for Bend City Council?

(City Councilor Jim) Clinton said he expects much of the council’s business to carry on as usual but worries the three incoming councilors might have a shared support for particular industries.

In total, Eckman, Eager and Green received more than $38,500 in campaign contributions from Central Oregonians for Affordable Housing, the political action committee run by the Central Oregon Builders Association. The three candidates received a total of $14,050 from the Central Oregon Association of Realtors, the group for which Greene serves as president.

“I think there’s a danger signal that three of the new people were massively, disproportionately supported by the development industry — that’s something to watch for,” Clinton said. “We hope they’ll have a broader perspective beyond that.”

It goes on to have the usual denials from each of these Bought & Paid For Whores. Big Surprise.

So, we can pretty much expect More Of The Same. Such as pandering to builders with such great ideas as Attacking Bend's Mega-Glut Of Homes By Eliminating SDC Charges, and other such mindlessness. I guess I shouldn't forget the $4.3MM revenue shortfall at City Hall. And the layoffs.

We don't need policemen, firemen, or roads! We need New Houses! Right?

Yes, yes. Selling out our city to RE interests is just proving to be all kinds of smart. And here we've done it again.

So what else happened during the recent election? Oh right! We elected a black dude!

Like I said in the comments, this thing could go in quite a few directions. The worst is what I call The Jesse Jackson Reverse Lynch Mob route, where black men on meth, driving 120mph through a school zone with their kids in the bed of the pickup, who decide, "Hey, this is because I'm BLACK! I ain't doin' nothing wrong!", and so they start shooting.

Or White Dudes in Cadillacs are pulled over and thrown to the ground & is given a Rodney King, ie "A White Rodney".

This is the lowest, basest, most vile thing on Earth, and it's exhibited by all Black Leaders, and 99.999% of all Liberals: REVERSE RACISM. Like putting the word "Reverse" in there somehow gets rid of the RACISM. No. It doesn't. Just makes it a vicious cycle.

OK, this is where it could go, and if JJ Jackson has his way, this is where we're headed.

OK, read again KNEE JERK, SELF-HATING LIBERALS: I HOPE NOT. OK?

This is where I HOPE & PRAY it goes: I hope Obama serves as a model for blacks. I hope he SAVES them from decades of VICTIM-MENTALITY BULLSHIT that has been spewed by HATERS like Jackson for decades. I hope Obama KILLS the WHITE OPPRESSOR MYTH that bigots like Jesse Pedophile Jackson has spread his WHOLE LIFE for his own personal profit, and nothing else.

THAT is what I hope.

But this guy is up against entrenched forces that have a RACE-FUELED HATE AGENDA, and they see this guy as their "In" to getting WHATEVER they want. And they are going to PUSH, CAJOLE, THREATEN or whatever else they have to do to take over his position & turn him into a puppet. I pray to God Obama doesn't get Lewinskied by these fuckers.

I am pulling for the guy. I want to believe that POSITIVE CHANGE is coming. I AM thrilled there is a black dude replacing the insular, inbred bullshit we've had to put up with for 8 years. OK... 240 years. I just hope this guy can fulfill the promise by taking The High Road, when there is overwhelming pressure to take the Low.

OK, moving on....

I've noticed a trend that's been around quite a while, and I've commented on it several times, but recently I've noticed it's in Almost Every Single Negative Economic Piece in Cent OR media. I have in fact seen it already this morning. Here is the snippet, and see if you can spot the "odd" passage:

GM, Ford woes impact Bend car dealerships

The sputtering economy is clogging the engine that runs this industry. Auto sales are at a 25-year low and still falling.

Dealerships in Bend say sales are down significantly, following the national trend.

"Following the national trend".

"We're just like everywhere else, right? We're not immune. How could we have escaped such an overwhelming force?"

The other fairly obvious statement is along the lines of, "How could we have possibly known this was going to happen?"

The Bulletin runs stories ad nauseum FILLED with these 2 statements by City leaders. You WILL NOT see these sorts of statements in any other self-respecting news organization, anywhere. Why?

Because NO WHERE is local government, local media, and a dominating local industry so incestuously intertwined. RE interests BOUGHT & PAID FOR our local city council, as City Councilor Jim Clinton stated. RE interests donated a multi-million dollar property to the local newspaper. NO WHERE will you find such RIDICULOUSLY biased news reporting as you will find in Bend, Oregon. NO WHERE.

THAT is why you find virtually ALL news pieces FILLED, sometimes very subtley, with odd statements about the BLAMELESSNESS of local government for the current financial debacle. And if you've been out, that debacle is the rapid bankrupting of this town that is 100% INEVITABLE.

We are being conditioned for it. That's what these statements are: They are bracing us for the train wreck they KNOW is coming. We're in Layoff Round #3 at City Hall. They are NOW telling us they KNEW it was coming in September! But after the first 2 rounds, King proclaimed, "This is it, we're done." Of course, a 100% LIE.

Just keep your eye out for this sort of thing:

"We're suffering just like everyone else."

Translation: We have to TELL YOU that we are suffering just like everyone else, because for 10 years we have told you that we WILL NOT SUFFER, EVER, because we Bendites are Gods Chosen People. Plus this statement cushions the inevitable blow of Bankruptcy that WE ALONE have pushed us into.

"How could we have known this was going to happen?"

Translation: We are headed towards bankruptcy, and we MUST find a way to HOLD OURSELVES BLAMELESS for the cataclysmic implosion of city finances that WE ALONE are responsible for.

If you want to see ONE EXAMPLE of the ENLESS BOONDOGGLES we as taxpayers have funded, just go to Bend2030. Here's an excerpt of just what Bend2030 is STRAIGHT from the homepage:

Bend 2030 is a private non-profit 501 (c) 3 organization, independant from the City of Bend.

Ummmm, yes. Yes, Timmy. "independant". They are INDEPENDANT from the city of Bend, as well as a decent spell checker.

Click on the Bend2030 "Action Plan & Progress Report". Their original action plan was published in Dec 2006, and they recently put out a Bend2030 Progress Report. Some excerpts of EXACTLY what has been accomplished with our taxpayer funds over the past 2 years:

With respect to the Modal Connectivity Plan (yes, BIG WORDS & MYSTIFYING TITLES fill this thing):

"...a Recreation Assets Committee... is identifying opportunities for recreation and connection in Central Oregon."

Holy Shit! They've fired up the old RAC and are vigorously IDENTIFYING CONNECTION OPPORTUNITIES! Pardon me Sir! I stand corrected! Bend2030 is on the EVER-INCREASING "CONNECTION" problem we've got going! Whew! What a relief.

Regarding the Mirror Pond Vision (these fuckers do a lot of VISIONING):

"Bend2030 is in discussion with stakeholders about facilitating community forums concerning Mirror Pond."

Ummmm. What? So the sum total of your PROGRESS with respect to the MIRROR POND VISION is that you have... talked.... to..... people.... about.... it. Ah ha.

With respect to The Green Print Plan (no, I do NOT know what The Green Print Plan is, as it is not defined ANYWHERE. But it has the word GREEN in it, so it must be wonderful):

"The need for a Green Print Plan was initially identified in the Bend 2030 Vision. Trust for Public Lands requested support from several partners including Bend2030 to make the plan a reality. TPL is close to raising the funds needed to support the plan."

Seriously, that's all there is. Green Print Plan is 100% undefined. But the fuckers did decide we needed it. And the PROGRESS made by Bend2030 is that SOMEONE ELSE has started asking THEM for money, and the other party has not yet achieved their fund raising goal.

OK, when someone asks me for a progress report of MY LIFE, I don't blow out a story about how the local Girl Scouts have STARTED SELLING ME FUCKING COOKIES, BUT THEY HAVE NOT YET ACHIEVED THEIR GOAL. OK, that is NOT an accomplishment.

OK, but enough soft-hearted BULLSHIT. The Bend2030 is Dead Fucking Serious, and has some MAJOR INVOLVEMENT in Real Community Issues, such as BAT & The Redmond Airport, Gat Damn It!

Regarding BAT Expansion:

"Bend2030 has approved a resolution in support of the November ballot measure."

Holy Shitballs! They've APPROVED A RESOLUTION! I think all readers should know the IMPORTANCE of this SEMINAL EVENT. I also approved a similar RESOLUTION when I was taking crap this morning. Believe me, that shit does not happen every morning. Sometimes I will go a week and only approve 3-4 resolutions when taking a dump.

Regarding Redmond Airport Expansion:

"Bend2030 continues to support construction on the Redmond Airport terminal expansion which is underway, and expected to be completed by 2010."

Whoa! They SUPPORT construction of the Redmond terminal! FUCK ME! So... the construction of the terminal is UNDERWAY. And Bend2030 CONTINUES to support this construction. Which is underway. It's already going.

Ummmm... I'm just curious what sort of "resources" Bend2030 has CONTRIBUTED to this vast effort of SUPPORTING THIS CONSTRUCTION? How many vast LEGIONS of people are TASKED with SUPPORTING this terminal expansion?

Funny, but this DOES NOT sound like PROGRESS to me. It sounds like a bunch of fuckwads patting themselves on the back for doing NOTHING. Here's how they describe themselves:

"Bend 2030 is made up of 18 very passionate and deeply committed volunteer board members who are dedicated community leaders representing a wide-spectrum of backgrounds and neighborhoods from the community."

"Passionate and committed"? Huh. "Wide spectrum of backgrounds and neighborhoods"? Really? OK. Let's name some board members:

Linda Johnson - Bend City Councilor
Peter Gramlich - Bend City Councilor
Erik King - Bend City Manager
Brian Shetterly - City of Bend Planning

Yeah. It's real fucking diverse. Like most of Bend organizations, Bend2030 is a taxpayer funded boondoggle-circle-jerk that does NOTHING except increase the INFLUENCE PEDDLING POWER of BOUGHT & PAID FOR WHORES of the local RE industry. That's all.

Yeah. It's DIVERSE. How many black motherfuckers are on Bend2030's Board? How many EAST SIIIIIEEEEEDERS? How many CITIZENS NOT in City or LOCAL GOVERNMENT? By my count? ONE.

"Diverse" to these fuckers means that they got BOUGHT by COAR AND COBA! Holy SHIT!

"WE LIKE BOTH KINDS OF MUSIC, COUNTRY AND WESTERN!"

And we have spent close to $1,000,000 on this. And what have we got?

Real kick ass FAQ's on VISIONING:

Q: What is community "visioning"?
A: Visioning is a planning process that can help a community create a shared vision for its future.

Q: What is a vision?
A: Think of a vision as a community's preferred "destination" - where it would like to be in the long-term future.

Fuck me. "What is a vision?". We've paid these fuckers a million dollars for answering THAT? We're dead. Here's my FUCKING QUESTION:

"Can you define, or go 2 fucking seconds, WITHOUT USING THE WORD "VISION", "VISIONING", or some derivation of THAT FUCKING WORD?"

So what did our recent election accomplish?

Well, we did manage to Throw The Bums Out. But they were replaced by Newer, More Fucked Up Bums. And these BUMS have, and will continue to work SOLELY for the local RE interests. Think WAIVED SDC CHARGES to "solve" the local "RE PROBLEM". These fuckers are SO MYOPIC, they can't even fathom a solution that does not DIRECTLY BENEFIT their PIMPS (ie HOLLERN).

Go to the Bend2030.com website. And just prepare to be amazed at the WASTE of it all. BIG WORDS. COMPLICATED "VISIONS". Lots' of PROGRESS.

Until you really start reading. And realize they have done NOTHING. Not a single fucking thing. So where is the MILLION DOLLARS? WHERE?

Right. Boondoggle. A bunch of back-slapper, old boy network, bought & paid for WHORES sucking the cock of local Real Estate. All paid for BY US.

Welcome to MOTHERFUCKING BEND, OREGON.

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Anonymous said...

GODFATHER of AIPAC blesses HRC with COCK. NEO-CON->ZIO-CON transform complete OREO brings 'Change'.

Kissinger Says Clinton Will Be `Outstanding' Secretary of State

Bloomberg - 1 hour ago
By Cherian Thomas and Julianna Goldman Nov. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Kissinger said Hillary Clinton, frontrunner to be the next US Secretary of State, would be an ``outstanding'' appointment to the post.

Anonymous said...

GODFATHER of AIPAC blesses HRC with COCK. NEO-CON->ZIO-CON transform complete OREO brings 'Change'.

Kissinger Says Clinton Will Be `Outstanding' Secretary of State

Bloomberg - 1 hour ago
By Cherian Thomas and Julianna Goldman Nov. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Kissinger said Hillary Clinton, frontrunner to be the next US Secretary of State, would be an ``outstanding'' appointment to the post.

Anonymous said...

Isn't 'Vegas' a little overbuilt??

We know they have have terrible STD problem, and the casino build biz is collapsing all over the world,

So what the fuck is there to do for job's during a depression in an adult disneyland??

Anonymous said...

It's amazing what I'm hearing. Has the consumer really turned on a dime? Or is it just people thinking out loud?

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What I'm hearing is that stuff isn't just down 20% or 50%, stuff is down 90% everybody is pulling back, which means a ton of layoff's on the horizon.

At a big biz, you can't see it, but at a small biz like ALL of Bend's biz, you know when there is no work,

I wonder how this plays for the new guitar place up by Summit Highschool, they just finished the new building and were hiring. I wonder if their orders are still strong?

I'm still close to the high tech, and have lots friends in cali, and the orders are zilch, that said by 2009 OREO will be spending a TON on the new WARS, so by fall of 2009 selective tech will be moving again,

I don't see anything moving in Bend ever, ...

ALso don't forget the return of cheap-oil, is only because people are raising cash, no investments are being made, so in 1-2 years fuel will again sky-rocket, and thus all these business places in Bend & tourism will eventually get fucked.

Tele-Commuter is going to get FUCKED real bad, most good paying jobs in Bend are such, they're the first to go as CALI lay's everyone off, the non-faces are easy to go,

Sure in the LONG FUCK term tele-commuting will be HOT, but like ALL times, you got to be really good, but to survive this cycle, get back to HQ quick and sell yourself, and make your image essential, or start your own business.

Housing in BEND? $120k medians no fucking problem, but who will have $20k down?? nobody, and even for an investor, they need 30% down, $36k cash in a depression, very few will be able to get in,

Don't think that buying on 'contract' can get you in, as in the last cycle most sellers selling on contract weren't paying the MTG, I saw 100's of people pay for a home only to get foreclosed. Make sure if you BUY a house, that your money is going straight to a BANK, and not a fucking builder.

Another racket is that these jingle-mail people 'rent' their house and pocket the money it take 1-3 years to get sheriff eviction, so a lot of 'comfy' renters will get slammed, ...

Live cheap, don't spend, work hard, make money, and keep it,

If your young, e.g. under 30, be ready for the BUY of a lifetime in 2012.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing what I'm hearing. Has the consumer really turned on a dime? Or is it just people thinking out loud?

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APU(TT), its NOT about the consumer they would buy just like pavlov's dog would salivate on a bell.

The problem is HELOC GONE, Credit-Card GONE, or MAX'd new cards, IMPOSSIBLE to obtain, ... the whole fucking racket was endless free money to spend & shop.

Right now with Smithers $1 Nordic-trac, and garage-sales folks are selling what they can for food & fuel.

In a few months with nothing to sell, its going to get interesting.

Like I have predicted for several years, watch your auto(s), the gas siphoning is going to sky-rocket that's how they'll fuel, Bend is going to have +5,000 living out of their cars(trucks).

Anonymous said...

I'm hearing "downsizing," "smaller houses,"

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Smart builders that I know did this 1-2 years ago, they already now have the smaller, I think only the ostriches are still living in the +3000sq-ft minny-me-mc-mansion.

Remember 2+ years when I caught HELL from people here about telling people to live in a 1100sq-ft home?? I said that you will not afford the heating, that is why all the mill houses in BEND, Bend was always a town of poor people, there were no BIG homes, only 1or2 bed,1bth,sml living room with wood-stove, ... that is how you survive in Bend.

All these fucking homes over +2000sq-ft in BEND are going to be impossible to maintain, even for utility, even if you don't pay the MTG, they'll just shutoff the gas, and all the pipes will break. Water damage every where,

Yes, every fucking BUILDER I know, by last year SOLD their BIG home and bought small easy to maintain inner town homes.

Anybody that's just now figuring this out is fucked,

The real issue is what happens to the +++10k STD >3000sqft mcMansion STD's in the area? who in the fuck buy or lives in them or rents them??


I know the BULL will be saying "WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED"???

Anonymous said...

They had bid those homes up so high that people were buying with option arms.

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Same for BEND, that is why this thing will continue to 2012, we know that is the end of the RESET cycle on ARM's, it's still going to take to 2014 to clear the defaults out.

Absolute panic will be 2012 the worse, but smart money will be hunting for deals in 2010.

There will be false hope in 2009, but ONLY people who can live on $20k/yr will survive, unless you have MILLIONS in cash hid away.

BEND is NOT a cheap place for a high burn-rate life style.

I don't care all I do is hike,bike, and xc-ski, and almost always out the front door, If I spend $100/week its a fucking miracle, and like I said if you have a small home where you only have to heat one room to 'hang-out' then you can live cheap.

The western-world average for retail space is 3sq-ft person, in the USA there is 18sq-ft per person of retail space.

Hell yes, the consumption is over.

Why the fuck do you think that Eclipse is moving its VLJ to Russia, and Cessna all cheap planes to China??

Cuz the USA is finished, its going to be a prison.

Some places like 'cascadia' will be more desirable than others.

If you don't have $1M in cash, most countrys will not even let you visit, thus in effect most ameriKKKans will be trapped.

Don't laugh, even ten years ago, Australia required proof that you had $500k.

Anonymous said...

Buying Binge Slams to Halt

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By DAVID LEONHARDT
Published: November 16, 2008

Just as one crisis of confidence may be ending, another may be coming.

The holiday season is not quite here yet, but retailers are already bringing out deep discounts.
The panic on Wall Street has eased in the last few weeks, and banks have become somewhat more willing to make loans. But in those same few weeks, American households appear to have fallen into their own defensive crouch.

Suddenly, our consumer society is doing a lot less consuming. The numbers are pretty incredible. Sales of new vehicles have dropped 32 percent in the third quarter. Consumer spending appears likely to fall next year for the first time since 1980 and perhaps by the largest amount since 1942.

With Wall Street edging back from the brink, this crisis of consumer confidence has become the No. 1 short-term issue for the economy. Nobody doubts that families need to start saving more than they saved over the last two decades. But if they change their behavior too quickly, it could be very painful.

Already, Circuit City has filed for bankruptcy, and General Motors has said that it’s in danger of running out of cash. If the consumer slump continues, there is a potential for a dangerous feedback loop, in which spending cuts and layoffs reinforce each other.

“It’s a scary time,” Liz Allen, 29, a nursing student in Atlanta, told one of the Times reporters who fanned out across the country last weekend to ask people about the economy. “Worry can make the economy worse. If people worry too much, they won’t spend as much money. We’re seeing that happen, I think, already.”

It’s not entirely clear what anyone, including Barack Obama and his incoming administration, can do to temper the current worries. Mr. Obama has called for a stimulus package, which will make up for some of the consumer pullback. He and his advisers will also try to shore up confidence by projecting both a calm competence and a willingness to be more aggressive than the Bush administration. All of that should help.

But the stimulus package under discussion would bring no more than $150 billion in new government spending. The difference between a good year for consumer spending and a really bad one is about $400 billion.

So 2009 could turn out to be fairly miserable. The American consumer, long the spender of last resort for the global economy, may finally be spent.



You have heard such warnings before, I realize. For years, journalists and other economic worrywarts have been predicting a serious slump in consumer spending, and it did not happen. “Never underestimate the American consumer,” as a Wall Street cliché puts it.

Like most clichés, this one has some truth to it. Even before its recent housing-fueled boom, consumer spending was a bigger part of the American economy than of, say, the French or German economy. Americans like to buy things, and they also don’t tend to stay pessimistic for long.

Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center, noted that his recent polls showed a sharp rise in the number of people planning to cut back on spending — but also a clear increase in the number who expected the economy to be in better shape next year. “What the American economy has going for it is the innate optimism of the public,” he said. “Americans get optimistic at the drop of a hat.”

Perhaps falling gas prices or Mr. Obama’s victory will shake them out of their torpor, Mr. Kohut said. A recent Gallup Poll found that consumer confidence rose slightly after the election. Based on recent history, it’s easy to imagine that the trend will continue and spending will soon bounce back.

Yet if the last year has proven anything, it’s that we should not assume something can’t happen simply because it hasn’t happened recently. Cold economic realities deserve the benefit of the doubt, even when they point to uncomfortable conclusions. And right now, the economic realities are pointing to a serious consumer recession.

Let’s start with the job market. It “already appears to be in worse shape than at any time during the recessions of the early 1990s or early 2000s,” says Lawrence Katz, a Harvard professor and former Labor Department chief economist. Unemployment is higher than the official rate suggests, and it is rising. Incomes, which for most families barely kept pace with inflation over the past decade, are now falling.

In all, the total amount of income taken home by American households will still probably rise next year, because the population will grow and government transfer payments (like jobless benefits) will surely increase. But total real income will rise a lot more slowly than it has been rising recently. One percent is a reasonable estimate.

Anonymous said...

'miserable in 2009'

Like I keep saying, learn to have fun, and live on $100/week, or learn to live on less than $20k/yr, cuz if your used to spending over $100k/yr to have 'fun' in BEND, your going to be miserable.

People associate 'fun' with spending money, like years ago, man returns to the cave, and at night its dark, and they just huddle and wait for dawn, the miserable years are returning.

Anonymous said...

( buying binge slams to halt - part 2 )

The next question is how much of that income people will spend. For decades — from the 1950s through the 1980s — Americans spent about 91 percent of their income, on average, and put away the rest. In the last few years, they have spent close to 99 percent and saved only about 1 percent

This simply cannot continue. For one thing, people need to pay down their debts and replenish their retirement accounts. For another, the psychology of spending and saving may well be changing. After the worst housing bust on record and one of the three worst bear markets of the last century, Americans are probably starting to realize that they can’t always fall back on ever-rising house values or stock values to make ends meet.

In the unlikely event that Mr. Obama decided to mimic President Bush’s post-9/11 plea for spending in the name of patriotism, it probably would not have the same impact. We’re not as flush as we were in 2001.

Economists are now busy trying to forecast how rapidly people will begin saving again, but it’s essentially an exercise in guesswork. There is no good historical analogy. A savings rate of about 3 percent seems plausible — higher, but not radically so — and that’s what some forecasters are projecting.

At that rate, consumer spending would decline about 1 percent next year, which is worse than it sounds. It would be the first annual decline since 1980, as I mentioned above, and the biggest since 1942. Relative to the typical increases from recent years, it would represent $400 billion in lost consumer spending. To find a stimulus package so big, you’d have to go to Beijing.

And get this: Spending in the last few months has actually been falling at an annual rate of 3 percent. So the seemingly pessimistic events I have sketched out here are based on the assumption that things are about to get better.

As Joshua Shapiro of MFR, an economic research firm in New York, puts it, the American consumer has quickly gone from being the world economy’s greatest strength to its Achilles’ heel. “Everything has changed,” he says. “The financial sector is deleveraging. Credit availability is severely constrained. Asset prices are deflating. And household balance sheets are severely stressed.”

It would be silly to insist that a few terrible months meant the end of American consumer culture. But it would be equally silly to assume that culture could never change. It might be changing right now.

Anonymous said...

Like most clichés, this one has some truth to it. Even before its recent housing-fueled boom, consumer spending was a bigger part of the American economy than of, say, the French or German economy. Americans like to buy things, and they also don’t tend to stay pessimistic for long.

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Fly's like to eat shit, and dogs like bones, but when there is no shit or no bones, the flys and dogs starve.

Anonymous said...

It would be silly to insist that a few terrible months meant the end of American consumer culture. But it would be equally silly to assume that culture could never change. It might be changing right now.

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Maybe this is what OREO means by 'change', maybe the OREO will get the credit for this 'CHANGE'???

Like I said earlier, with an average western world avg of sq-ft of retail at 3-sqft, and 18-sqft per person in the USA something had to give. The USA was NEVER a nation or rich people.

The USA has always for the past 50 years a third-world country with nukes, and post WWII, managed to get the rest of the world to finance its DEBT, now its over, the ability to borrow is gone, which means everything 'changes'.

It's going to be PAY AS YOU GO.

Anonymous said...

BEBB 2 for Bend topical-debate's un-censored.

I have added a 'suicide' category for bebb2, so that each suicide theory can have its own long-term thread.

I don't expect anyone to use this, but at the very least to keep a list of suicides and outcome on each. I also think we need to have a BULL&SORE watch list of all the stupid shit they do.

Any other idea's??

General & Predictions can probably go? We all have already predicted bend, and there is no general.

Real estate

Developer suicide

rumors

general

predictions

Anonymous said...

Bearded Women

Women shave their facial hair to be attractive,

When folks are broke, they don't bother,

Thus I predict their will be MORE bearded-women in BEND, and some might even get pregnant, and thus Bend will have more 'pregnant MEN', only BEND can talk this shit with a straight face, that said, if you live in BEND, then your a professional shit eater.

tim said...

>>People associate 'fun' with spending money...

Money is the easy way to have fun. Eating is the easy way to have fun.

But they are not the best ways to have fun. With the money gone, people need to relearn how to be decent humans. You have to learn how to be interesting. Which means you have to learn how to be a storyteller. Which means you have to read and know things. You have to actually have observations.

Good luck to you all.

Bewert said...

Re: Like I have predicted for several years, watch your auto(s), the gas siphoning is going to sky-rocket

A couple months ago went out of town for a short trip to Porland, and came back to find my other car emptied. Completely.

Re: BULL BS

Krauthammer on the cover of the opinon section:

One of the reasons Detroit is in such difficulty is that consumers have been resisting the smaller, less powerful, less safe cars forced on the industry by fuel-efficiency mandates. Now Detroit would be forced to make even more of them.

Typically dumb-ass shit from Krauthammer, one of the biggest morons ever given newspaper space for his nonsense. And it fits perfectly with the BULLs worldview.

How fucking out of touch can you get?

tim said...

Bruce,

Actually he's right. People (overall) don't want small. They want big. If people wanted small I wouldn't be surrounded by trucks and SUVs in the Safeway parking lot.

The decision has to be made whether to force people into small for their own good.

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't do that. But it's definitely not what people want.

You're surrounded by the evidence, whether you want to see it or not.

I'm a no on the Detroit bailout, because I think it just makes absolutely everything worse.

If they are to die, let them. It's not a temporary problem.

Anonymous said...

"You have to learn how to be interesting. Which means you have to learn how to be a storyteller.
Good luck to you all."

This is how it used to be in the old days, right -- telling stories around the fire (in the cave or in your hut) for entertainment at the end of a long hard day of work.

I guess Tim is saying we're going back to stories around the campfire for entertainment.

In that spirit, this blog has been quite yesterday, what with tales of barefoot developers, dentists and 18 wheelers, the end of consumer culture....

While it's interesting, I hope it's not all true.

Bewert said...

They wanted big when gas was cheap. In the last year big has become ever more worthless worthless, whether houses or cars.

Detroit hasn't been forced to make small vehicles for years because the CAFE standards for passenger cars haven't changed since 1990, sitting at 27.5 mpg. Light truck CAFE has inched up over the last three years, to 22.2 for model year 2007. See http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/overview.htm

Another reason you see so many pickups and SUVs around you here is that there are definite tax advantages to having a business vehicle that weighs in excess of 6000 lb. Which every realtor and contractor took advantage of around here. Go to the city and you don't see anywhere near our ratio of big vehicles to smaller cars.

As far as the auto bailout, I have mixed feelings. One side of me says let the market decide, and the other says that taking 1/5th to 1/10th of the TARP program and investing it in Detroit rather than yet more in Wall St. would save a lot of living wage jobs in the heartland.

tim said...

>>One side of me says let the market decide, and the other says that taking 1/5th to 1/10th of the TARP program and investing it in Detroit rather than yet more in Wall St. would save a lot of living wage jobs in the heartland.

A lot more than living wage. We do this and we're going to end up having poor people all over the country sacrifice for workers in Detroit making shit the poor people don't want and can't afford.

Anonymous said...

If you want to support good wage jobs, support the oil companies, which have good-paying jobs for all kinds of educated engineers. People that [payed a lot of money for their college educations.

Bewert said...

Via naked capitalism:

"We are now starting to see the contagion effects of the current liquidity crisis feed through to the real economy...

The recent 93 percent collapse of the obscure Baltic Dry Index – an index of the cost of chartering bulk cargo vessels for goods like ore, cotton, grain or similar dry tonnage – has caused a bit of a stir among the financial cognoscenti. What is less discussed amidst the alarm is the reason for the collapse of the index – the collapse of trade credit based on the venerable letter of credit.

Letters of credit have financed trade for over 400 years. They are considered one of the more stable and secure means of finance as the cargo is secures the credit extended to import it. The letter of credit irrevocably advises an exporter and his bank that payment will be made by the importer's issuing bank if the proper documentation confirming a shipment is presented. This was seen as low risk as the issuing bank could seize and sell the cargo if its client defaulted after payment was made. Like so much else in this topsy turvy financial crisis, however, the verities of the ages have been discarded in favour of new and unpleasant realities.

The combination of the global interbank lending freeze with the collapse of the speculative, leveraged commodity price bubble have undermined both the confidence of banks in the ability of a far-flung peer bank to pay an obligation when due and confidence in the value of the dry cargo as security for the credit if liquidated on default. The result is that those with goods to export and those with goods to import, no matter how worthy and well capitalised, are left standing quayside without bank finance for trade.

Adding to the difficulties, letters of credit are so short term that they become an easy target for scaling back credit as liquidity tightens around bank operations globally. Longer term “assets” – like mortgage-back securities, CDOs and CDSs – can’t be easily renegotiated, and banks are loathe to default to one another on them because of cross-default provisions. Short term credit like trade finance can be cut with the flick of an executive wrist.

Further adding to the difficulties, many bulk cargoes are financed in dollars. Non-US banks have been progressively starved of dollar credit....

Fixing this problem shouldn't be left to the Fed. They aren't going to make it a priority. Indeed, their determination to accelerate the payment of interest on reserves and then to raise that rate to match the Fed Funds target rate indicates that the Fed are more likely to constrain trade finance liquidity rather than improve it. Furthermore, the Fed may be highly selective in its allocation of dollar liquidity abroad, prejudicing the economic prospects of a large part of the world that is either indifferent or hostile to the continuation of American dollar hegemony.

If cargo trade stops, a whole lot of supply chain disruption starts....

If cargo trade stops, the wheat doesn’t get exported. If the wheat doesn’t get exported, the mill has nothing to grind into flour. If there is no flour, the bakeries and food processors can’t produce bread and pasta and other foods. If there are no foods shipped from the bakeries and factories, there are no foods in the shops. If there are no foods in the shops, people go hungry. If people go hungry their children go hungry. When children go hungry, people riot and governments fall.

Everyone along the supply chain should worry about their children going hungry.

When that happens, everyone in governments should worry about the riots.

Controlling access to trade finance determines who loses their jobs, whose children go hungry, who riots, which governments fall....Trade finance is rapidly communicating the stress on bank liquidity to the real economy. It presents a systemic risk much more frightening than the collapsing value of bits of paper traded electronically in London and New York. It could collapse the employment, the well being and the political stability of most of the world’s population."

tim said...

The problem with picking a side, Bruce, is that you feel compelled to agree with your gurus and diagree with the other side's gurus. You turn from man to sheep, and aren't worth listening to. Resist both sides of the force, Bruce.

Bewert said...

It's not just the auto companies themselves, it their suppliers, too. Something like 3,000,000 jobs.

Oil companies aren't the only ones that pay well. Why not state support nursing? Support communication companies?

And we all paid an awful lot for our college educations. Although when I went it was about 1/5th of what it costs now.

Anonymous said...

"It's not just the auto companies themselves, it their suppliers, too. Something like 3,000,000 jobs."


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But those suppliers can also supply USA cars made in Tennesee, in the good ol America, that sport the nameplates Toyota, etc. And those are the cars (and yes, even trucks) that people want to buy.

There is a reason that our family bought a Fiats and Volkwagens in the 70's. At first we bought Vegas and Pintos, but then we figured it out.

Consumers are smart, they will not buy Detroit even with the bailout. When you don't have lots of money, you spend more wisely.

tim said...

Bruce,

What's boring is lack of information. Claude Shannon told us this long ago.

Don't tell me about a lefty you agree with or a righty you don't agree with. That's as interesting as, "The red rubber ball is red. And it's made out of rubber. And it's red, like an apple. And it bounces, because it's made out of rubber."

Tell me when you disagree with a lefty or agree with a righty, because that would be actual information. Overnight, you transform from "That old bore with the dentures who won't shut up." to "That sexy young man with all those provocative ideas."

Tell me the red ball is blue. Tell me the rubber ball is made out of glass.

Incorrect is forgivable. Boring is unforgivable.

Bewert said...

Timmy, you just chose a side on bailing out the auto companies, while I presented both sides...

Besides, wouldn't you take the writings on the economy of Rogers, Roubini and Krugman over Krauthammer, Kristol, and Will?

At some point you have to take the individual initiative to educate yourself the best you can and make a choice, whether its for something as big as president or as personal as whether to use Ruby on Rails or not? Will it affect the course of progress? Will it scale if needed? Do we sink more money into police and fire or more money into JR?

Can you personally have any affect on any of these by your decision and followup actions?

Detroit is capable of building good small cars, like the Ford Focus, a best seller since its introduction 1999. It has been the most popular car in Britain every year since 1999, as well as selling respectably here.

Quimby said...

>> The problem with picking a side, Bruce, is that you feel compelled to agree with your gurus and diagree with the other side's gurus. You turn from man to sheep, and aren't worth listening to. Resist both sides of the force, Bruce.

Well said, I agree with Tim. But I disagree with a lot of other people so don't bust my nuts too hard :)

LavaBear said...

>>>It's not just the auto companies themselves, it their suppliers, too. Something like 3,000,000 jobs.

Funny...it's the 3,000,000 jobs that makes me think we CAN'T bail them out. If we give them bailout cash it doesn't do a thing for their survival. It just makes it so hopefully "things" (think credit, think economy in general) are better when they burn through the cash. Thus we are just giving them some leeway until we as a nation can get back to buying 17,000,000 cars a year on credit. I'm sorry but that's a frickin pipe dream.

If it was me they would force the bastards right here, right now into Chapter 11. And then force a massive restructuring. At that point we have a slight chance to save some of the 3,000,000 jobs mentioned above. If not the odds are highly likely they are heading Chapter 7 which is the doomsday scenario. And if we give them bailout cash it delays the fix and greatly increases the doomsday once they burn though it.

The argument regarding big cars, small cars, red cars, blue cars is really irrelevant. GM sells the most cars of any manufacturer in the world. It's easy to blame them for making damn SUV's and that's the problem here but it's really not. It's one peice of the puzzle but not as big as most people make it out to be. Unions. Pensions. Geared up for a world of cheap financing...way more important.

LavaBear said...

I've known Marc Nordstrom for 30+ years. He's a great guy and the kind of person this town needs more of. Thankfully he's as strong as a rock and he's doing as well as can be expected.

Bewert said...

LB: interesting about Nordstrom. It sounds like you went to school with him here.

On the auto bailout-it's not going to take bailout money alone, as we have to change the tax code to drop the incentives for large rigs in favor, if we favor anything, of more efficient rigs.

Plus move on CAFE. It's obvious when that we can increase mileage, since most other countries already have. They've used the economic hammer, which we experience the last 12 months.

Why not try to create an "Apollo mission" aimed towards green energy? It's not like we haven't subsidized the building of highways and the drilling of oil for decades. Check out the history of mass transport in LA, for instance.

Oil will run out within most of our lifetimes. We need to move on.

Bewert said...

Re: Funny...it's the 3,000,000 jobs that makes me think we CAN'T bail them out. If we give them bailout cash it doesn't do a thing for their survival. It just makes it so hopefully "things" (think credit, think economy in general) are better when they burn through the cash...It's one peice of the puzzle but not as big as most people make it out to be. Unions. Pensions. Geared up for a world of cheap financing...way more important.



Yeah, we can't just keep shoveling out billions like we have been doing. Although the difference is that shoveling out billions to Detroit actually filters down. The old Laffer-Curve theory of the Reagan era.

Personally, I think that we should have totally repressive tax penalties on those that make ridiculous amounts of money. Like if you clear $25M in a year, at least half of that is going to the public good.

Why? Because in most cases that income is provided on the backs of those under you.

Did Hank Paulson, in the end, deserve to sell stock worth a half-billion? With long term holdings taxation of 15%?

Our country has descended in the oft-repeated historical tilt towards the powerful and monied, media-controlling, elite.

Either we try to fight back or we are going down.

Can you imagine how better off we would be if the trillion or so spent in Iraq was spent on various infrastructure projects here in the US?

That's the true fight. Our money spent here, or our money spent there. Whether Iraq or China, or even Israel.

Bewert said...

Re: The old Laffer-Curve theory of the Reagan era.

In a way. Actually paying workers, laborers.

Note that Laffer's theories have been total BS.

What I find interesting is this thought that if anything a worker does is simple, like putting a few parts in a frame rolling along an assembly line, is automatically worth no more that what Chinese worker gets paid.

Anonymous said...

I've known Marc Nordstrom for 30+ years. He's a great guy and the kind of person this town needs more of.

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Great, and I think we can all agree, that everyone in this town is a 'hella-va' great guy/gal, whether it be buster or smithers, homer, apu, ...

Trouble is Nordstrom is sitting on a TON of 2005 RE debt, that's got to be hurtin' and bad.

What was he thinking? Did he really believe that 2005 was a new buying opportunity??

Anonymous said...

This is how it used to be in the old days, right -- telling stories around the fire (in the cave or in your hut) for entertainment at the end of a long hard day of work.

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Music evolved the same way, the guy that could tell a yarn, and play music got 'pussy' the MORON who had nothing to offer slept alone and became extinct.

Anonymous said...

Actually he's right. People (overall) don't want small. They want big. If people wanted small I wouldn't be surrounded by trucks and SUVs in the Safeway parking lot. - smithers

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There you go again smithers, suck dick of the status-quo, not being one to repeat myself, allow me to tell you a little yarn,

In the past few years those Honda & Toyota Hybrids have had several year back-order, and the BIG fucking SUV's sat on the lot.

Let's REMIND you KUNTS of unfortunate fact, that since the 1970's US auto has had NO desire to RE-TOOL, everybody knew the US consumer would hose post baby-boom ( 2005 ), everybody, ...

The WHOLE reason for the $25B bail-out is to cover PENSIONS, and payback to union-auto, but NOTHING in the fucking world short of TRILLIONS will make US auto competitive, and lastly what is the fucking point, the indians, russians, and chinese are the future, what is the point of making auto's here?

There is NO point, you people like 'smithers' have NO fucking idea how terminally FUCKED the US economy is going to be the next 10-20 years.

Anonymous said...

You turn from man to sheep, and aren't worth listening to. Resist both sides of the force, Smithers.

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This is why our PUSSY is no longer BP, Pussy, or even Bruce. He is a Smithers Sheep to his 'Mr Burns', the only problem is our Smithers struggles to find his Burn's.

He once could be considered a pussy ( bambist liberal ), but if you actually follow him, day to day, he believes in nothing. There is no consistency, everyday day he flips the page, like a POL would do on wind or surveys.

Our Smithers is an opportunist, he came to BEND to be loved, someday he'll find his Mr. Burns, but he'll not change, and even then he'll not know any kind of consistency.

Anonymous said...

Why not try to create an "Apollo mission" aimed towards green energy?

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I can see it now, millions of 'smithers' on bikes dragging CAPSTONE generators behind them, all generating more 'green energy' than consumed.

Will they bike to the moon? Who cares everyday give them a new goal, and keep them peddlin'

Anonymous said...

Talking Points ...

See that's the WHOLE thing with Smithers, ... Just five earlier posts he was agreeing with the NAZI's at the BULL about BIG cars,dicks,tits,....

Then a few post later he's agreeing with DEM talking points about 'green energy'

Jeebus XMAS I'm a fucking physicist, when people have to use 'ghost terminology' in lieu of thermodynamics, I know they're talking SHIT.

Smithers you want 'green' go to drake park and get your capstone turbine to process geese shit.

Anonymous said...

Do we sink more money into police and fire or more money into JR? - smithers

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There goes SMITHERS with his obfuscation, ...

The reason that the city uses JR, is that JR-BURA can legally borrow money and has a line-of-credit, the city uses the JR-BURA to fund the cops&fire, as the general fund is empty. The city can't borrow money for day-to-day, and thus has to play 'fraud accounting' ( thanks friedman & johnson ).

It's NOT a choice BP, eventually BofA will kill the loans, and then the city will BK, that is why they hired the $400k/yr lawyer for staff, to stall the process.

Anonymous said...

Consumers are smart, they will not buy Detroit even with the bailout. When you don't have lots of money, you spend more wisely.

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Yep, but Detroit has $25B in pension obligation and no cash, and that be those 3M folks that think they got a pension coming, ... They vote, and auto-union was major in electing the OREO.

The $25B in pension cash was stole mostly back in the 1980's, paper IOU's have been the back-bone of our economy for over 25 years, and today that paper is worth ZERO.

$25B in federal-reserve notes, is just to fucking keep the pensioners with food.

Everybody knows that US auto doesn't have a fucking chance.

Do you people read? The fucking Eclipse the VLJ ( very light jet aircraft ) is moving to Russia, the future has already fucking left this country, there is NO HOPE in fucking hell.

tim said...

My central oregon hero of the year is not the pregnant man, and it's not balloon lawn chair man. It's that guy generating energy by pulling a tire around behind him.

I don't think I've ever enjoy a Bulletin story more than that one, and I can't imagine it ever being equaled.

THAT is the kind of brainpower we have working overtime in Central Oregon.

Bewert said...

Re:Do we sink more money into police and fire or more money into JR? - smithers

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There goes SMITHERS with his obfuscation, ...



Obfuscation? What is so dense about that statement that you don't understand. Don't be a dumb fuck--I know you are better that that.

Anonymous said...

Well that's why I suggested we take all our 'smithers' in Bend, and have them drag generators with wheels around Bend on their bikes.

Sort of like the 'triples of belgium' every Smithers will want to participate, and we'll have unlimited green-energy for all.

Bewert said...

Re: THAT is the kind of brainpower we have working overtime in Central Oregon.

Timmy, we both know there is more than that brainpower around here.

As for that being the absolutely stupidest scheme promoted by the BULL, yep. Not even close.

Anonymous said...

Obfuscation? What is so dense about that statement that you don't understand. Don't be a dumb fuck--I know you are better that that.

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Every FUCKING thing your write about JR, for all time, is added complexity, you don't write to simplify, your write to OBFUSCATE.

Is that word to big for you, and don't bring the debate here, never once in your one-year JR blog-site juniper-ridge-info, have you ever responded to anyones comments ever.

Then just now you go straight-to dumb-fuck, and then the next sentence you'll be telling us you never post anonymouse, even though the person who says dumb-fuck, or fuck-head always follows you by nano-seconds.

Times up Smithers, you are now from this point forward to be CALLED on all your SMITHERS SHIT.

Anonymous said...

NOTE TO ALL,

Smithers loves his own name, you all know, that nobody in the history of Bend loves his own name as much as the Smither's sure he would rather be called bruce, or bp, or pussy, but SMITHERS is to fucking close to home, and folks would then clue that the pussy, ain't even a fucking pussy.

No SMITHERS its time to put up or shut-up.

All you never do is take trivial fucking facts and obfuscate them.

Bewert said...

Re: See that's the WHOLE thing with Smithers, ... Just five earlier posts he was agreeing with the NAZI's at the BULL about BIG cars,dicks,tits,....

Physicist, please quote me rather than flail your BS.

tim said...

>>Timmy, we both know there is more than that brainpower around here.

Yeah, I know. But that scheme was just so naively delightful.

tim said...

Ask a first grade kid how you make chocolate bars. You might get the answer, "Buy some chocolate bars, melt them, then pour them into molds."

If a fifth grader did the ludicrous "drag the tire around to generate electricity" scam as a science fair project, the judges would chuckle and ask a few questions to see if the child had any exposure to thermodynamics.

But a homespun Redmond genius comes up with the idea, and the local media plays it with a straight face, either due to ignorance or a incredibly cruel mean streak (not sure which is worse).

Anonymous said...

I actually think most readers here and posters get that "we are screwed", as a country. But what are you doing about it? Are you going to save your tiny hinies? Or are you going to do something constructive that will help your friends or community?
Politics, will not save or help us. BP, your energy is better spent enlarging a community garden rather than your(whatever).
It's time to suck up the BS and dig into a small group of like minded people that can help you survive the next 8+ years..Time to be charitable and careful. Stop taking and start giving. We have many great minds here. Figure out how to survive. If you don't think that is important..Good luck.
BBBB

Anonymous said...

"your energy is better spent enlarging a community garden"

Honestly, to make a garden worthwhile you have to dump on so much water and fertilizer than it no longer becomes cost efficient. It's better just to import stuff from Mexico. Transportation is getting cheaper by the day. Gas is less than $2 now in some parts of the country. Don't worry so much (BBBB, is that you, Marge?).


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LB said: "He's a great guy and the kind of person this town needs more of. Thankfully he's as strong as a rock"

Isn't that exactly what was said about Steve Dorn by "Mike"?!!! That he is "exactly the type of person we need around here"? And then he found out that..... well, you know.

Bewert said...

Re: Actually he's right. People (overall) don't want small. They want big. If people wanted small I wouldn't be surrounded by trucks and SUVs in the Safeway parking lot. - smithers

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There you go again smithers, suck dick of the status-quo



How fucking stupid are you? You can't read and understand who actual author is? Huh?

Why lay this BS on me. Fuck you.

I am the only fucking individual on this board that uses my real name and actually stands up in city meetings, and bitches.

You are a stupid little fucking useless cunt that thinks he smells nice...

You can't even figure out that what you are laying on me I didn't state. You smell just as bad as the other fucking whiners that refuse to actually try to change things.

PS FUCK YOU.

I'm simply sick of anonymouse BS.

Anonymouse, you don't do or mean shit. Grow a pair, and speak up.

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Anonymous said...

>>>LB said: "He's a great guy and the kind of person this town needs more of. Thankfully he's as strong as a rock"

What Lava said is absolutely correct. I've spoken to his wife, his brother, and his mother this past weekend. Whoever is speculating on any of this are simply making shit up and really should shut the fuck up.

Bewert said...

Folks, I'm sorry for the anger at times. But just watching 60 Minutes tonight shows a difference. Timmy, there is a difference between the parties...

tim said...

A lot of differences. And I hate both of them.

But that's cool. I still love the people of the US. All kinds. Great people. Dumb, but great.

Bewert said...

People, just fucking speak up.

Bewert said...

Including you, TT. Put your smarts into fighting to save this town.

Anonymous said...

What Lava said is absolutely correct. I've spoken to his wife, his brother, and his mother this past weekend. Whoever is speculating on any of this are simply making shit up and really should shut the fuck up.

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But let's remember WHO started this FUCKING thread?? The PUSSY??

Right?

Whats the first thing buster said? I asked Smithers why is an accident on hwy-20 important to this crew?? Then this theorizing of suicide progressed, so deja-vu I ask again, when did the pussy ( smithers ) initiate this thread??

First the pussy print's the story on this site, then he speculates about all the RE held and true, ... Then the pussy distances himself from the anonymouse shit alleges not to do, ... Then low and behold lava comes fwd and says' this is a good guy.

I concur, I smelled a rat from the second the PUSSY (smithers) ran the thread, since when do we automatically jump on HWY accidents??

Anonymous said...

Blogger bruce said...

Folks, I'm sorry for the anger at times. But just watching 60 Minutes tonight shows a difference. Timmy, there is a difference between the parties...


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This is why the pussy is 'smithers' the PUSSY is a party-man, and not a thinking man, the pussy like smithers, only does what his Burn's tells him in his talking points.

tim said...

Bruce, I have no solutions for Bend at the moment. Speaking up would require coherence and consistency from me. I don't think I've got the town figured out well enough to be useful in the least.

At most I could be an irritating gadfly. I couldn't fix a damned thing.

tim said...

Bruce,

Here's Laffer being wrong.

http://patrick.net/housing/contrib/schiff.html

Laffer is right about half the time. Just like all economists.

Anonymous said...

At most I could be an irritating gadfly. I couldn't fix a damned thing.

Yeah, and the City Council doesn't need another one of those dipshits... they already have one in the audience.

Anonymous said...

At most I could be an irritating gadfly. I couldn't fix a damned thing.

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What is needed is TRUTH.

Simplicity is needed.

Truth is needed.

More people reporting what transpires in meetings is need.


What is NOT needed is obfuscation, and personal gain.


The first thing Smither's did when he started his gadfly biz, is threaten to file a complaint if city-hall didn't BUY 10k Capstone Butt-Plugs. When that failed, he started his Juniper-Ridge reporting biz. Trouble is Smithers has publicly said that he has 'NO INTEREST IN WHY', in another words Smithers isn't a fucking reporter.

Apu(tt) you say you used to be a reporter, ,and I know you care about WHY, you don't have to testify but if we just had more people attend meetings and report WHY, then we could get control of the city.

"FIX" isn't the issue, the issue that we report what the FUCK is going to, the BULL&SORE have NOT ever reported, there is a total fucking void of information.

Smither's reporting is a joke, because he never fucking even reads the document's he post's on his site, and 90% of time he post's irrelevant doc's, and only focuses on the inane ones, this is why I call Smithers the 'OBFUSCATER'.

Anonymous said...

Another stupid fucking Smither's strange fucking 'obfuscation'.

Smithers first reported on the Suterra meeting (oct22,2008 smithers-jr-info), and mentioned the LBAM spraying, and then he said that he was the first ever to discover the connection!. Whatever.

Then last week Smithers called anyone who has followed the Suterra Spraying as a 'Suterra Hater'.

It never fucking ends, his flip flops, he gets the troops all riled up, and then he jumps over to the other team, once the enemy becomes defensive.

This is why BP is no longer a pussy, cuz he ain't a pussy. Since day-one when Smithers showed up last fall here, I said he was an agent provocateur.

Smither's has had every opportunity to put his name on the ballot in the so called three years he has claimed to be here, but given that he is on somebody's ( Mr. Burns ) payroll he doesn't run for office. He just continues to obfuscate, and flip-flop.

Like this past week, Smithers initiates the post about the dentist, and then runs with the theory that it was suicide, and then family members show a back-lash, and then Smithers condemns those that defame the dentist. Like I said the minute Smithers posted this story, I ASKED what the fuck does a almost getting nearly killed on a HWY have to do with the RE bubble??

Smither's recurring theme is to initiate debate's and then distance himself, then flip-flop to the other side, its not a happenstance, its a recurring theme.

Lastly, lets remind ALL for the benefit of Smither's you post a RUMOR, you have one hour to prove the RUMOR, otherwise its assumed to be BULLSHIT. There is NO proof that the dentist accident was a suicide ergo that issue is dropped as BULLSHIT, unless Smithers can prove otherwise.

If you continue to initiate RUMOR's that have no validity then you will be ignored.

Even our Marge started a rumor a few weeks ago, and it turned out that the developer was not dead, and marge apologized.

Another recurring thing about Smithers is HE NEVER APOLOGIZES for his error's, he is always non-apologetic, which is in itself very strange.

tim said...

I was an editor, not a reporter.

But I get your meaning.

To be honest, my assumption is that the town is not fixable as long as it's a bunch of Realtors, builders, and mortgage brokers electing a bunch of Realtors, builders, and mortgage brokers.

Those people have to die and blow away before this town even gets interesting enough to fix.

I suppose I should start paying attention to it in anticipation. But I have family and business to run. I know I can do good for my kids and good for my business spending time on them. I don't know I can do anything for this goofy-ass town.

Can't you old retired fuckers fix the town? I don't have any time. I assume Bruce has no kids?

Anonymous said...

Can't you old retired fuckers fix the town? I don't have any time.
- apu
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I think Lava brings up Sizemore time to time, you got to give him credit for sticking to it for 30+ years, but for him his business to putting measures on ballots.

I put in my time at city-council years ago, and I know quite a few ex-mayor's and councilors in this town, and talk all the time, their attitude is that the current people running this town will 'blow away' soon enough when there is no money to steal.

Friedman had better much scrapped the meat off the bone, there is nothing left to steal.

We need young kids, under 40 to get involved, a new wave,

Smither's is a self promoter, we all know that, that's why I have quit calling him 'bruce'. He's never taken one fucking piece of advice given.

It's a rare bird that can put in his whole life and fight 'city-hall' in any city, at some point you have to move on and find a life. Everybody in BEND that is involved in the machine is so for personal money.

I concur if you have kids and biz, stick to that.

Once the money is gone, the town is BK, all these current parasites will be gone, and clean people will come forward and get stuck with 'fixing' the town, sadly as long as there is money to steal, or STD's to build Brooks&Compass will keep running the town, when Knife-River starts seeing a month going without $5M, they'll be gone.

It's all going to come to a grinding halt, look to date, Hummel left, aber-pussy, its not fun anymore they are leaving.

People who were mayor in the 80's & 90's don't want to do it again, the kids are just disgusted and don't want to bother.

We're going to so a complete fucking power vacuum in the next few years, if Chamber-of-Commerce can pull its head out of its ass it might put some Ned-Flanders(dunc) type folks in power. That's the best we can hope for.

In the meantime, the population will collapse of earners and explode with transients ( homeless ), the cops&fire will get fucked ( pay cut ), the city-manager Eric will give himself a raise, the new lawyer will get $500k/yr for protecting city-hall from the masses.

Bewert said...

Re: assume Bruce has no kids?

No. Trudy has epilepsy and her meds precluded it in the end.

I'm also self-employed and make almost enough for us to live on in licensing fees, without working. My goal is to double that. Plus it's all from outside Bend, leaving me not worrying much about being pressured by locals.

And I've always been a leader and interested in making things better. Have run or helped run everything from a water ski show, college ski team, several cycling teams, bicycle stage races, local arts councils, condo assn., etc.

Bewert said...

Re: Suterra Spraying as a 'Suterra Hater'.

OK, all you folks who are concerned with Suterra potential effects on the economy, it's still not a done deal, and you might be able to derail it if you step up.

Personally, I think John and Jerry in Econ Dev are bound and fucking determined to get it done (I was out there earlier today and there is quite a crew at work, even though there is no signed PSA) and will do and say whatever it takes to get it done.

In that case my opinion, whether you agree or not, is that we make damn sure DEQ is monitoring them closely. I would have liked to have seen that in the PSA.

Besides, everything you post on my blog you crosspost here, so here is where I answer you.

Bewert said...

Buster, from now on I'll separate my quoted material from my comments with this

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So you can figure out what I am saying versus what I am replying to. You seem confused at times.

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