Saturday, July 19, 2008

"The government doesn't have any money."

Everyone seems to take offense at the "Cali-Banger" moniker these days.

Let's get this straight: Cali-Bangers are more about lifestyle than place of origin, although the two are correlated eerily most of the time.

Cali-Bangers lead a life of excess, of excess in almost all aspects of their life. Their motto, "I can sleep when I'm dead", seems appealing on some levels, squeezing every last drop out of life & such. Seems even admirable, on some level.

But Cali-Banger excess has no limits. It leads to competitive excess, a need to "out do" everyone, in everything. You got a big house, mine's gotta be bigger. You make big money, I gotta make more. You got a hot wife, mine's gotta be hotter & younger, even if it means surgery. And on and on.

What does this have to do with Bend & it's housing? Well, think about the Coasts, in contrast to the Mid-West. The Midwest is priced where it is because large chunks of the Midwest population simply refuse to work 2 jobs, and have their kids working too. They care less about $800 iPhones than Cali-Bangers. They care more about raising their kids than yanking out their wifes C cups & stuffing in double D's. They care more about human decency than Botox.

And this might sound high-falutin', holier-than-thou bullshit, but actually it will lead to the Coasts, and Cali-Bangers especially, falling farther than anywhere else in the Country with respect to housing.

Think about it: Say you're a Midwest family, Dad working, making blah money in some blah town. OK, your house cost $75K. Everythings OK, making ends meet.

Then the shit hits. Dad gets injured, car wreck, or something. What to do?

Well, in that case, Mom can work. She won't make a fortune, but she really doesn't have to. They aren't the vassal's of their possessions. They own little, they owe even less. Mom will get them by, and Dad has friends who will help & they're insured. Their means are modest, but so are their needs.

Enter the Cali-Banger. They own 3 huge SUV's, plus a sports car despite being a family of 3. Their house is too big for them. They simply don't even comprehend that they didn't need all that room, they needed to keep up with the Joneses. Same with the cars. Same with the gadgets. Same with their bed sheets, clothes, jewelry, and everything else.

They are making a TON of money, and they work all the time for it. They own a lot, and they owe far more, because they don't buy anything that appreciates, only depreciation. Boob job & Botox, and fat sucked out here & blown back in there. They only value their lives in terms of what they have IN EXCESS of what their friends have.

What's wrong here?

I'll tell you; There is no slack in the system. There's nothing left. The engine is running at max, and it can't give anymore.

The Cali-Banger is self-destructing. It has mortgaged it's life for more. The Cali-Banger is 150% maxed out. It's not just fueling all the possession-obsessed idiocy it can, it's borrowed ALL IT CAN. There's not a penny that isn't already spent, whether earned today or in the future.

This is why I hate Cali-Bangers. Their morals are repugnant, but so are many whitey-ass hillbillies. So are many blacks. But Cali's are worse.

Cali-Bangers will ultimately self-destruct. They will ultimately be carried out. California will suffer like no where has ever suffered in the ANALS (yeah, I said ANALS) of financial history. It's no coincidence they have suffered the first BANK RUN in our lifetime.

California is self-destructing, and it is The Cali-Banger that is their undoing. The hypocrite that preaches Green living & business from their 8mpg SUV. That is a Cali-Banger. Excess, hypocricy, competition, ego, and consumerism gone completely berzerk. THAT is the Cali-Banger lifestyle.

And one other thing: A Cali-Banger will ALWAYS DEFEND, and will never understand why anyone could possibly want to live any other way.

Look at where home prices are the highest. The Coasts. Why? Cali-Banger lifestyle. 2 1/2 incomes. Work more to spend more. Keep up with the Joneses. Period. Midwest? 1 income. There's slack in the system. There's capacity. There's breathing room, financially & otherwise.

Where has this brought us? Besides kids unable to communicate besides txt msg, people working themselves to death? Nothing. This country has adopted the Cali-Banger lifestyle. What is our ONLY REAL ASSET? Our ability to work. And that resource is 150% tapped out; We are not just spending 105% of what we make, we have mortgaged our future consumption to the hilt. And beyond. We have almost NOTHING left to give. Our only Real Resource, OURSELVES, has been SOLD.

In the 50's, we were poor. Sort of. But our expectations were not huge & we saved. Then it was realized that there was HALF this country that wasn't earning. So women began working. On the Coasts. Largely. Then kids.

And so now, to adopt a Cali-Banger lifestlye of 100% gadgets & Paris Hilton dogs that we see on TV, we've mortgaged our lives beyond the hilt. We can thank The Cali-Banger. California is the Detroit of tomorrow. We are digging a hole so large it will bury us all.

The Cali-Banger has made it NECESSARY that EVERYONE MUST WORK to even afford a house. How many people have had to start working in Bend because the Cali-Banger lifestyle has been so whole-heartedly adopted. More for everyone, right? Sounds great!

We all get gadgets, and little dogs, and cars, and big fake titties, and all sorts of great stuff. We've become slaves to Our Stuff. We are living for The Stuff. We'll die to get more Stuff. We have spent everything we will ever earn to live for today. Our government has likewise done the same.

Concern grows over a fiscal crisis for U.S.

Thursday, July 17, 2008

(07-17) 04:00 PDT Washington - -- As the Bush administration proposes backstopping mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with a $300 billion line of credit and Congress contemplates another economic stimulus, the question is who will bail out the government?

"People seem to think the government has money," said former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker. "The government doesn't have any money."

A rare consensus has developed across the political spectrum that the government's own fiscal affairs are precarious, with an astonishing $53 trillion in long-term liabilities, according to the Government Accountability Office.

To put that number in human terms, the debt has reached $455,000 per U.S. household. As that debt grows, the United States increasingly relies on foreigners, including China and Middle East oil producers, for financing.

"The factors that contributed to our mortgage-based subprime crisis exist with regard to our federal government's finances," said Walker, now head of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, a group established to raise alarms about the nation's budget. "The difference is that the magnitude of the federal government's financial situation is at least 25 times greater."

Baby Boomers

This year's presidential election coincides with the first retirements of the 78 million people born between 1946 and 1964. The first of this Baby Boom generation may now collect Social Security. In three years, they will join Medicare, the giant health care program whose finances are commonly described as out of control. Medicare accounts for the bulk of the nation's long-term liabilities.

The presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, have not addressed what the aging of the Baby Boom generation means for the federal government. Their brief forays - Obama's suggestions to raise the payroll tax on high-income earners to buttress Social Security and McCain's description of Social Security's financing as a disgrace - have been met with furious attacks.

Both promise to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on new tax cuts and spending programs. Their health care proposals concentrate more on expanding access than controlling the soaring costs that are driving the federal budget problems and squeezing workers and businesses.

Health care costs

"Health care costs are just amazing," said John Shoven, director of Stanford University's Institute for Economic Policy Research. Total health care costs now consume 16 percent of the economy and are headed quickly toward 30 percent, Shoven said. "Social Security is a big problem, but it's dwarfed by health care. Even the housing problem is dwarfed by health care."

Just the built-in rise in spending on programs for the elderly will cost about 25 percent of workers' payrolls over the next generation, said Richard Jackson, director of the Global Aging Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Robert Greenstein, director of the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, agreed that "the nation faces large, persistent, long-term deficits that ultimately risk damage to the economy. We agree that policymakers have to make tough choices soon."

There is consensus, too, on what needs to be done: Cut spending and raise taxes. A bigger problem is how to contain health care costs, but some form of rationing is necessary, experts said.

Only disagreement

The only real disagreement is whether the government's fiscal condition will lead to a financial meltdown, or whether the U.S. economy is strong enough to right itself without a sudden loss of confidence and a flight of foreign capital.

"People on Wall Street think I'm Dr. Doom & Gloom," said Kent Smetters, an economist at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania and a former Bush Treasury official. "I believe we could have a financial crisis like we've seen in South America or Asia. It could easily happen, and under current policy will happen in the United States. People say, 'Gee, give me a date.' Obviously, that's impossible, but the longer we wait, the higher the probability. Could it happen in the next decade? Absolutely."

Alice Rivlin, budget chief in the Clinton administration, discounts the possibility.

"We're a much stronger economy than Argentina," Rivlin said. The government "can handle borrowing in the range that would be necessary in a recession," she said. "What we can't handle is the cumulative long-run obligation."

Financial markets are often fixated on the short-run, and the government's finances are far from transparent. Unlike corporations, the government is not required to state its long-term obligations. Crises of confidence, like today's banking problems, strike suddenly when a tipping point is reached and investors decide to flee.

The government's fiscal problems are "like termites in the house," said Jackson. "You don't notice it until foundations are eroded."

"I had such a frustrating meeting the other day on the Hill, where one staffer said, 'We don't have a problem until Wall Street tells us we have a problem,' " said Maya MacGuineas, head of fiscal policy at the nonpartisan New America Foundation. "By the time the financial markets tell us we've gone too far, it will be too late to fix this in any rational way. We are the toad in boiling water, where it's getting hotter and hotter and nobody's really noticing."

Will they still buy?

The key is whether foreigners will continue to buy U.S. debt. They now hold 45 percent of U.S. Treasury securities, and in all about $11.5 trillion of U.S. public and private debt, say UC Berkeley economists Ashok Bardhan and Dwight Jaffee.

Chinese entities, including sovereign wealth funds that invest government savings overseas, own about 10 percent of U.S. Treasury securities. Even a minor change in China's investment policy could have a major effect on the dollar's value and cause "a sizable increase in interest rates," the economists said.

Still, because of a shortage of creditworthy debt instruments worldwide, and the large role of U.S. institutions in global credit markets, foreigners have little choice but to invest in the United States, they said, predicting "slim chances of abrupt change."

Action needed soon

Whoever's right, all agree that the sooner the problem is tackled, the better. "Like almost any financial problem, if you don't work on it, what happens is it compounds with interest," Shoven said. "There are lots of ways to fix it, and what we pick is none of the above."

The staggering U.S. debt

The federal government's finances are in worse shape than its annual budgets show, because the government is not required to state its long-term obligations, which work out be about $455,000 for every household in the nation.

Breaking down the numbers

Current liability:

Social Security: $6.7 trillion

Medicare: $34.1 trillion

Total long-term government liability: $53 trillion

Source: Government Accountability Office, Long-term Fiscal Outlook, Jan. 2008

Where it goes

U.S. debt held by foreigners as of mid-2007:

-- Foreign holdings of U.S. equities: $5 trillion

-- Foreign holdings of U.S. corporate bonds: $3 trillion

-- Foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury securities: $2 trillion

-- Foreign share of U.S. Treasury securities: 45 percent.


We are a country on the precipice of utter destruction. It is due to The Cali-Banger. The 3 hybrid SUV-driving, fake tan & fake tits, 3 iPhone, celebrity-worshipping, self-obsessed, self-consumed, 4 mortgages, hideous Cali-Banger. And they've come to Bend. And they are remaking it in their image. And everyone seems to think this is fine.

Our one past savior is productivity. The rate at which a static amount of work yields still more output due to efficiency & improved tools we use.

But we have always grown at faster than this rate, because we were on a slow but continuous borrowing slope. We consumed more than we produced by borrowing. The crisis you are seeing today is the result of that lifestyle. So we produced extra purchasing power with 2-3% productivity gains each year, but we also borrowed 3-4% from future earnings, which is essentially negates our future earnings.

You might think that some slimey bastard you know, who's just moved in and brought all his heinous Cali-Banger toys with him is The Ultimate Cali-Banger. No. No, the Ultimate Cali-Banger would need to continuously spend so far beyond their means, it is literally unbelievable. The Ultimate Cali-Banger would actually FIGHT to spend money on the utterly ridiculous. The Ultimate Cali-Banger would be REVILED The World over, and looked upon with complete disgust.

It seems obvious that The Ultimate Cali-Banger is:

The US Government

Our government, AT OUR BEHEST, is pissing away our efforts at a catastrophic rate. We are at war, yet again, and The Spoils? Right, the spoils are basically a Huge Toilet. The Worlds Biggest Outhouse. The Spoils of War are CRAP.

We are The Worlds Colonialist. Duck & Cover, cuz Here We Come. And as just about any Colonialist can tell you, COLONIALISM IS HIDEOUSLY EXPENSIVE. It costs much, and yields next to nothing.

We are worth LESS now than at any time in recent history.

How much oil it'd take to buy the US

At the recent price of $140 a barrel, it turns out to be a mere 400 billion barrels, or just about the combined reserves of Iran and Saudi Arabia.

By Scott Burns

Most of us view the world through dollar glasses. It's perfectly reasonable. Dollars, after all, are the currency we use in daily life. And those lenses, until recently, were distinctly rosy.

When we asked, "How much is that in dollars?," we usually liked the answer.

But it may be time to ask another question: "How much is that in barrels of oil?"

Trust me, others are doing exactly that.

That's when the world starts to look very different. It also looks more than a little scary to the U.S. Today, the net worth of the entire country is equivalent to a mere 400 billion barrels of oil. That's a smidgeon less than the proven reserves of two Middle Eastern countries: Saudi Arabia (264 billion barrels) and Iran (139 billion barrels).

At more than 40 times its 1970 price, oil has outstripped the value created by a full working generation of Americans in a period of dramatic technological change and innovation. During the same time, the value of American business shares, as measured by the S&P 500 Index ($INX), has risen only about 15 times above its 1970 level.

I find that hard to believe. After all, in 1970 the Internet was only an arcane toy for academics. Computer memory was desperately expensive. Intel had just been formed and was introducing the first dynamic random access memory chip. Bill Gates had yet to enter (or drop out of) Harvard and was five years from founding Microsoft. Steve Jobs was years away from creating the Apple II and was decades from launching the iPhone. AT&T was still a single national company, owning all of the regional Bell companies.

No one was yet thinking the U.S. post office was a quaint institution, soon to be treasured for its many buildings that could be converted to trendy condos. Phone calls were expensive. Sears, Roebuck was an important retail stock, not a real-estate play by a hedge fund manager. All surgery was invasive. And it was still believed that stomach ulcers were caused by stress. Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin had not yet been conceived, let alone applied to Stanford, where they would create Google.

All of that dynamism and creativity pale against the price of oil. Looking as far back as 1970, America has never been worth less in barrels of oil.

I learned this by measuring the net worth of all U.S. households and nonprofit organizations in barrels of oil. Every three months the Federal Reserve estimates the value of our collective tangible assets, financial assets and liabilities to arrive at our net worth. It's the whole enchilada -- all our cars, our houses, our durable "stuff," bank deposits, stocks, bonds and mutual funds. Everything. Then it subtracts all our mortgages, consumer credit and other debt to arrive at our net worth.

This year's floods in the Midwest are projected to reduce the corn harvest by 700 million bushels. Look for higher prices on meat and soda, and more ethanol imports from Brazil.
At the end of March, for instance, our collective net worth as a nation was $56 trillion, the second straight quarter it had dropped. Divide $56 trillion by the recent $140-a-barrel price of oil and you get 400 billion barrels of oil as the value of America, a fraction of our national value in 1998, 1995 or even 1990.

Either oil is too expensive or America is too cheap.

YearHousehold net worth* Price of oilBarrels to buy America

1970

$3.4 trillion

$3.18

1.1 trillion

1975

$5.1 trillion

$7.67

670.3 billion

1980

$9.5 trillion

$21.59

438.6 billion

1985

$14.2 trillion

$24.09

589.7 billion

1990

$20.3 trillion

$20.03

1.1 trillion

1995

$27.7 trillion

$14.62

1.9 trillion

1998

$37.4 trillion

$11.18

3.3 trillion

2004

$48.1 trillion

$42.00

1.1 trillion

2007

$57.7 trillion

$120.00

481 billion

2008

$56 trillion**

$140.00

400 billion


The last time we worth this little, was 1980. We were practically just hobbled by an oil shock. We were mired in a quagmire of stagflation.

And guess what? Things got really great after that. Well, mostly. Reagan-omics itself almost crippled this area in the 80's. But the country as a whole experienced HUGE wealth gains. Times were good.

So it'll happen again, right? Great time to buy, right?

I don't think so. Back then, we weren't leveraged to nearly the extent we are today. We were still coming into the Great Computer Revolution, and the Chinese were still yet to become the HUGE producers (not consumers) of junk beloved the World over. Oil & commodities entered into massive price declines.

Of these things, we can at best look forward to some unknown technological revolution, which is at best in it's infancy today. And even if we do find it, it's gains have been largely spent by a pattern of government individual borrowing. We are tapped out. That's why it really is different this time.

And it's a Global Phenomenon. Everyone (except for the Chinese & Middle East) is tapped out. In a planet of Cali-Bangers, we are clearly the Head Banger.

Producers will out.

Producers will win, consumers will get crushed, and we are the ultimate self-medicated (on debt) consumer. And I'm sure the Chinese & Iranians are chuckling everyday, KNOWING that capitalism has had it's run. And it's finally going to collapse in the Ultimate Minsky Moment.

And if the US is the Ultimate World Cali-Banger, then Bend is the Penultimate Cali-Banger town. I've never seen a place so consumed with it's own munificence. Celebrating & wallowing in it's own glory. Holding up a mirror to behold it's own beauty.

Fucking pathetic.

Listen, being a Cali-Banger doesn't mean you have to come from Cali, it's just a hell of a correlation. But it has been known that Cali-refugees were literally born in the wrong place, and they knew it. Like a transvestite, they knew they were inhabiting the wrong body right away. Here is a test to compute your Cali-Banger Quotient:

1) Do you own a Denali, Yukon, or Escalade? If yes, and you are a 2 person household, add 10pts. If you have 2 kids, or haul crap in it in a true work-related fuction, add 5 pts.

2) Are you from Southern Cal? Add 10pts. Did you arrive between 2003 and right now? Add another 10pts. Did you BUY anything (home, townhome, doesn't matter) on the Westside? Add yet another 10pts.

3) Did you start up your own business when you got here? Add 10pts.

4) Eaten at Merenda, Deep, or anywhere in The Old Mill in the past month? 10pts.

5) Fake titties anywhere in your family or bloodline? Add 20pts. Realtor? Make it 30pts Botox? 40pts.

6) Bend Athletic Club? 10pts. Juniper Center? Subtract 10pts.

7) Did your last bike cost over $1,500? 10pts. When you roadbike do you where spandex? 10pts.

8) Did you sell a Cali house, move here & pay cash for you first Bend home? 20pts.

9) Own a iPhone or Blackberry? 10pts, I don't care if it's for work. I know an iPhone doesn't work here. Cali-Banger don't care.

10) Are you pro-"Green"? Have you bought Yet Another Automobile, parked a gas-hog, and started driving a Prius or some shit to work? Add 20pts, you fucking idiot.

You pass the Cali-Banger threshold by scoring a 50 on this test. Actually a true Cali-Banger will get a zero on this test. They simply refuse to listen to reality.

Cali-Banger isn't really a person. It's a code for what's wrong with this country. We're all of us turning into these wretched monsters. It's our tolerance that allows it.

We have started to tolerate this horror. We glorify it. We glamorize it. We worship it.

I, for one, have not. I HATE Cali-Bangers. I don't suffer their bullshit in silence. I don't fall for their wounded puppy bullshit. I loathe them. They ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY.

Go back to your shithole & corrupt your own kind. Fuck you & Get Out.

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Anonymous said...

Well its 200, I'm not sure if this is right, but its my gut feeling.

I think given that BP has been here a year now, he's no longer a 'pussy'. I think he should be considered a 'cunt'.

A made man in the bend blogger world.

What do the other cunts think??

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


The Bend area will be full of shit, and a little later short of water.


What's just classic is that here & there, they are throwing good money after bad. This water problem seems to be a deal-breaker, but they are still throwing money at it like crazy.

"Hedge funds will bail them out"? WTF? Wishful thinking. Sounds like the people who poured BILLIONS into WaMu & the like & watched it vanish...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...


What do the other cunts think??


He went to City Council meetings while I got hammered & watched DVD's, so this CUNT thinks he is a lesser cunt than I..

Children of a Lesser Cunt

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Man... the worm continues to turn on Wall St.

I faded the Oil At $200 Hysteria to good effect.

C'mon baby... GO!

LavaBear said...

I've had to "average down" my MRK play. And I'm starting to think about SKF. The worm turned too damn fast not to bounce back.

Anonymous said...

The suicide is True, Jay Shot himself in his home. No life insurance will pay on that.

LavaBear said...

I had LCC queued at $1.75 but couldn't pull the trigger. Fuckin Wuss. It's over $5 today.

tim said...

Marge, obit online?

Also, is there a way you can check what the median asking price is for the houses on the market? Be interesting to see the spread between that and solds.

Anonymous said...

Smart guy [Balzac]. Was he in porno?

You're kidding, right? Right?

Although back in his day some did consider some of the stuff he wrote porno.

Anonymous said...

Median ask price of Active listing is $365k
Med pending price is @299k
Med Contingent is $259K most are short sales.

Anonymous said...

No obit yet, just more people that know about it.

Anonymous said...

'Pregnant Man' Thomas Beatie Debuts Baby Pictures, Shares Birth Story
People | July 23, 2008 10:06 AM

It's been three weeks since his blue-eyed baby debuted in this world, but Thomas Beatie - better known around the world as the Pregnant Man - can already say this about his daughter's personality: "She's easygoing and mellow and intelligent."
On June 29 at 8:55 p.m., Beatie, 34, a former female beauty pageant contestant, made cultural history as perhaps the first legally transgender male to give birth, bringing into the world a 9 lbs., 5 oz. baby girl named Susan Juliette.
"She's so precious, I just can't stop staring at her," Thomas tells PEOPLE in his first interview since he and wife Nancy returned with their bundle from Bend, Oregon's St. Charles Medical Center. "Just holding her is the best feeling in the world."
Susan - named after Thomas's mother and conceived through artificial insemination with donor sperm - arrived after 40 hours of labor, with Nancy at Thomas's side acting as his coach.
"When Susan finally came out, it was like in slow motion," says Thomas. "I was full of wonder." Echoes Nancy: "There were tears of joy."
Both father and daughter came through the birth in perfect health. "I weigh two pounds less than I did before I got pregnant," adds Thomas. "And I don't have a single stretch mark!"

LavaBear said...

http://recordings.co.deschutes.or.us/TempImages/961658186102525.pdf

The Shire began the long slide yesterday. $3 million.

LavaBear said...

>>The Shire began the long slide yesterday. $3 million.

Let me rephrase that....that fucker began the long slide the second it was conceived in someone's head. Been downhill since. Now it's Umpqua banks problem.

tim said...

>>Now it's Umpqua banks problem.

Maybe they can just make the Shire their global headquarters and rename themselves First Hobbit Bank of Umpqua.

Anonymous said...

Well now that Jay Audia has been confirmed, this is classic Bend history.

These partner pools always end this way.

A lot of people in the community and city-hall believe their own myths. Its all self perpetuating, but the myths are leading to destroyed lives, bankruptcy, and total loss of life saving's.

There will be a critical mass of insiders killing themselves in this RE collapse, and that will cause the critical inflection point where they finally get the balls to admit that BEND RE isn't coming back.

IMHO Audia represented one of the beautiful people, and top golfers, you don't get any more beautiful in Bend than that. An insiders insider and city-hall ( building department aka SDC deferral champ favorite, a guy that never saw a project proposal turned down by city-hall )

Pooling OPM ( other peoples money ) on a falling knife bet that 'affordable' ( code for disposable homes ) would sell, caused a loss of OPM, its not about losing your money, its about face in the community in a town of winners.

Right now given that BLEDSOE & HOLLERN loan's are what's keeping the town builder-head out of water, its only a matter of time before city-hall, and the entire clique of beautiful people implode.

This is how bubbles end, and its NOT going to be pretty.

The denial will continue, but in the coming months the bullshit will end. When you have the MOST optimistic folks in town, betting the farm on the falling-knife with OPM, at some point the OPM dry's up, and then its game-over. Time to rent a UHAUL and leave late some eve.

When community pillars, lose community money, things generally end up this way. Just is the history of Bend.

Anonymous said...

>>The Shire began the long slide yesterday. $3 million.

Let me rephrase that....that fucker began the long slide the second it was conceived in someone's head. Been downhill

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Hell, lava in MY history books, the announcement of the SHIRE was the official TOP-OF-BUBBLE of BEND, SEP-2006, around the WORLD the call of the SHIRE in BEND was heard, and that TOLD the fucking WORLD that BEND-OR had gone fucking NUTS. That money meant nothing, and that CALIS coming to BEND had gone completely insane.


The SHIRE, OUR ICON of insanity. ALL down hill from 2006, hell that's when UBS pulled their 20M investment on JR on the behalf of KURATEK. That was the month of calling loans, and shutting down the machine. The SHIRE was such a fucking stupid marketing concept, that even UBS knew that BEND was no longer a safe place to invest, not even at 20% with a city-hall guarantee.

Anonymous said...

Right now given that BLEDSOE & HOLLERN loan's are what's keeping the town builder-head out of water, its only a matter of time before city-hall, and the entire clique of beautiful people implode.

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Watch BLEDSOE very closely. If he ever starts looking at his books, and quits letting his brother write out checks to every begging builder in BEND.

I'm not going to predict, but let me just say "DONT put all your eggs in one fucking basket".

BLEDSOE hasn't been to BEND very long, he currently is year 1.5 into a 2-3 year house build @ $20M, he's got a mens-club going in next to D&D that is costing over $5M, all this in the worst FUCKING BEND economy in 20+ years, or perhaps EV EVER.

He's handed out at least $5M since coming to town in the form of loans. He couldn't have had a net worth of more than 50-100M. He's going to be cash poor very soon, and calling all his loans, from guys that have NO credit, and collateral that is unsellable at any price.

How many lots do you want to own on 3rd ave in BEND, and how many years do you want to wait until it is liquid?

NO sense of fucking history.

Losing money in BEND is soon going to be happening so fucking quick that folks will not believe it was possible.

Even old HOLLERN knows that if 2-3 more ELITE BULL/BEND icons blow their brains out in this town, the confidence game will fucking collapse, and ALL BEND has going for itself is PR&MARKETING. When that MONEY runs dry, only the smell of death will be in the air.

tim said...

>>around the WORLD the call of the SHIRE in BEND was heard, and that TOLD the fucking WORLD that BEND-OR had gone fucking NUTS.

A friend of mine said he found out about the Shire when a business contact from out of town started teasing him about it over the phone.

"Bend? That's where the little Tolkein neighborhood is being built. What's wrong with you people? Are you completely nuts?"

tim said...

>>Watch BLEDSOE very closely.

How to become the hero of your new town: Pump money into worthless causes.

How to become a fool: Don't stop in time, and go broke doing it.

Bledsoe may be smart enough to know when to stop.

Anonymous said...

Bledsoe may be smart enough to know when to stop.

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I don't follow FOOTBALL, somebody guesstimate what his net-worth was coming to DODGE?

His brother has been writing checks like no tomorrow for two years now, ...

We see this on a small scale everyday, they put it all in BEND, back in 2002->2006 cuz they knew that $2M in Bend then, meant $10M in 2008.

Bledsoe seems to think that $50M in BEND means $500M in 2012, I see how to turn $50M into less than $5M.

The deal is when this cash is gone, its gone, and whether it the $2M guy who is NOW out of cash, and I know a lot, they're sitting on $2M homes that will not sell for $800k, and they have no cash, under water, ...

Come on guys, lets put our heads together what is BLEDSOES net-worth, based on these typical NFL players??

I mean he's doing some stupid shit, like a cigar men's club penthouse next to the D&D for $5M, I mean this is as RATIONAL as the fucking SHIRE!

Anonymous said...

"Bend? That's where the little Tolkein neighborhood is being built. What's wrong with you people? Are you completely nuts?"

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Bend is special, a place where everyone's dream comes true, a place that never runs out of cash.

A place where every machine is perpetual-motion-machine.

Money grows on trees,

The building/development is perpetual whether anyone buys the homes or not.

THE BIGGEST FINANCIAL FUCKING JOKE IN THE USA.

THIS PLACE IS FUCKED!

Anonymous said...

He went to City Council meetings while I got hammered & watched DVD's, so this CUNT thinks he is a lesser cunt than I..


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Thats a good point, how can he be a full cunt, and not a drunk?

He could be a non-drinker, we just don't know.

Quimby said...

>> He could be a non-drinker, we just don't know.

Duh buster, he's a mormon! Right?

Anonymous said...

Shit a non-drinking CUNT in Bend? A blogger yet, it just doesn't figure.

Maybe BP is a jack-mormron?

Anonymous said...

Bledsoe, the first overall pick in the 1993 draft by New England, started 193 games in the NFL, including the first six in 2006 before he was replaced by Tony Romo, who then earned a spot on the NFC Pro Bowl team. Bledsoe was due a $1 million roster bonus Friday and would have made $4.5 million next season.
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Ok, so let's say he peaked at $3M/yr, 15 yrs got to near retirement, most people are lucky to save 10X of yearly-income, e.g. Bend family @ $60k, would be damn lucky to accrue $600k.

I doubt his net-worth is over $30M, he's near retirement, and has the whole shaa-zam tied up in little Hobbiton aka Bend.

No doubt he's got a lot of friends, shit he owns the hottest cigar/private mens club in Bend, next to the D&D, home of the $1 hand-job ( 1970's dollars )

I just don't see the funding going much more than another six months, it shouldn't be pretty fucking apparent soon, that Bend AIN'T CUMMING BACK.

Then there is HOLLERN, house rich, and cash poor, but loaning cash to BUILDER's/DEVELOPER's, it like they're the golden, and even though competition, these guys know that if ALL the builders FOLD then there only be TOURIST jobs in BEND ( and gubermint ), not a pretty site.

Trouble is as we all know, almost all builders are now landscapers. Well except the builders who are working on Bledsoes $20M home @highland/BT.

I still want feedback from the fellow CUNTS on this new assertion that BEND is CUMMING back april-2009, cuz the hysteria in CALI that O-OBOMB-a is prez will make the calis open their wallets and spend it in BEND on RE.

That is a very fishy proposition, and while I can see REHO's wanting to use OPM to bet on such a proposition, I sure in the FUCK don't see it.

WE MUST clear our fucking inventory, and that isn't going to happen until 2-3 years after the NOD's are cleared, and that isn't happening until 2012.

Sure there will be some kind of pickup in the general economy NATIONAL, but NOT in fucking BEND.

We got from 10-50 years inventory, if you look around in the tri-county. All that shit has got to get cleared, before another building boom starts on 3rd-ave like all the developers are counting on.

Then you got the ROADHOUSE dead, and ALL these strip-mall east-side eat places are FUCKED, I know long-board-louie on EAST is hurtin.

Sales are DOWN, expenses are UP, and the smart thing is to shut the door, welcome to 1983 when all is covered with plywood.

YOU KNOW MT-B is going to FUCK the public real good this winter, that place is for sale, the GOON running it now is dressed for SALE.

Anonymous said...

I used to know jack-mormrons that chased pussy, and drank. They exist.

Behind every mormron, well lots of them, is a jack-mormron trying to get out.

Well not really, but that's why they wear the funny under-wear, when you know the other guy ain't wearing, you know your good for a little 'jack'.

You'll never see to Mormrons unite with funny underwear, no possibility of denial, you know somebody will talk.

tim said...

Only someone living in bend could think Californians will want to invest in RE next year. have you seen the California RE numbers? They are among the worst in the nation. Californians will spend 2009 hating RE with a passion. They won't just hate investing in it--they'll hate hearing about it.

TV pretty much says you are a fool if you bought RE. And California is TVLAND.

tim said...

I don't have confirmation on identity of suicide, but I did just hear that a "builder" killed himself the other day from someone not online.

So I guess I'm starting to buy it, unless it's an especially virulent rumor working its way all around town.

tim said...

I knew of a pro football player who blew a bunch of dumb money in Eugene. A lot depends on who he is associated with. Luck of the draw with whether they're in with scoundrels or geniuses.

Anonymous said...

We'll have the water problem in time, the table is dropping like a rock. All these 'bledsoe' super developments up @highlands and elsewhere pump 100's of gallons an hour 24/7 for irrigation, its like this every where on the large lots.

Something you always hear is that houses and golf courses use less water per acre than farming. That's true -- but most of the destination resorts are not being built on farmland -- they're being built out in the puckerbrush. They're irrigating land that has never been irrigated before and that HAS to draw down the water table, I don't give a damn what kind of "mitigation measures" they take (or claim to). Someday we'll wake up and the taps will be dry.

The development lobby likes to proclaim our water resource is "unlimited." In reality, the only unlimited resource is bullshit -- especially in THIS town.

Anonymous said...

Ok, so let's say he peaked at $3M/yr, 15 yrs got to near retirement, most people are lucky to save 10X of yearly-income, e.g. Bend family @ $60k, would be damn lucky to accrue $600k. I doubt his net-worth is over $30M

People making multimillions per year have investment opportunities available to them that the poor schlub making $60K doesn't. I kinda suspect Bledsoe didn't sock his spare cash away in a passbook account or CDs at 2%. Not unless he was awfully dumb and he doesn't impress me that way.

Anonymous said...

I still want feedback from the fellow CUNTS on this new assertion that BEND is CUMMING back april-2009

What's this??? Bratton Day II???

Bewert said...

One thing about Bledsoe is he still has his NFL TV gigs, which I am sure pay very well.

And yes, I do drink some. Hell, how can you grow up in Wisconsin and not drink ;)

Buster, it may be too morbid even for you, but an RIP tombstone side column of RE-related suicides could get interesting.

Anonymous said...

"Bend? That's where the little Tolkien neighborhood is being built. What's wrong with you people? Are you completely nuts?"

ROTFLMAO!!! Precisely.

Although I don't think The Shire would've sold even if the bubble had never popped. The idea is just too off the wall. Same with the "modern" crapshacks across the street from Newport Market. Well, those might have sold in Portland or Seattle or SF, but not in Bend. The Shire would never have sold ANYWHERE. Who the fuck wants to live in a fake Hobbit house?

Bewert said...

Drew Bledsoe, 2001 Patriots 10 years, $103M

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274467

Bewert said...

Actually, I confused Bledsoe and Marino. Bledsoe isn't on TV yet.

Anonymous said...

Buster, it may be too morbid even for you, but an RIP tombstone side column of RE-related suicides could get interesting.

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DUDE, go back and read my last two week postings on the history of BEND and RE POOLS.

Back about twenty years ago, a guy I knew had a CONTRACT on him, and real life HIT!

This is BEND, you take peoples money for an RE-POOL, and lose their money, you either go to mexico ( thats why the contract ), or you 'exit in grace' ( suicide ), ... BRUCE you need to understand that RE-POOL deals have been going bad in this town forever.

Its always realtors or BUILDERs that put these pools together, and they always fall apart, and 90% of the time ALL the money simply disappears.

NAH, MARK TWAIN sais truth is FAR more morbid, and twisted and un-real than fiction.

I think city-hall will take care of its own, as this thing start imploding, you'll see a lot of people walking the plank.

OMERTA, think MOB, you lose the 'company' money, you walk, mob talk for pills, bullets, ... whatever, its the honorable thing to do, especially in BEND.

Have I NOT been saying for almost two fucking years, that BEND is a MOB TOWN???

Anonymous said...

I kinda suspect Bledsoe didn't sock his spare cash away in a passbook account or CDs at 2%. Not unless he was awfully dumb and he doesn't impress me that way.

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I count, $50M dumped into this town, in the last 2-3 years. If that ain't fucking DUMB in a falling-knife market, what the fuck is.

The history of athletes ending up poor, after a 10-20 year career, is long and sordid.

For every athlete, there are a dozen managers that lose the money.

Very few athletes have even one year to show for their years after the career.

The high-end money management for the big-timers is EVERY bit as corrupt as small-time.

That's the whole point of CMO's & CDO's, people have been losing billions.

RE is a good bet, but BLEDSOE has bet the FARM, on BEND during a falling-knife market.

I don't suspect he has the cash flow, to make it to the light at the end of the tunnel.

Prove my assertion WRONG.

Anonymous said...

I still want feedback from the fellow CUNTS on this new assertion that BEND is CUMMING back april-2009

What's this??? Bratton Day II???


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I'm hearing this rumor all over town, at the bars.

It says that O-BOMB-A gets elected, and the calis go into a spending frenzy, and blow the wad on BEND RE.

Yeh, I agree its BULL, but these builders I'm talking to see its a for sure bet.

No doubt, just one more fucking thing to give some fucking hope, for the DUMB-FUCKS of BEND.

For over two years now we have heard, wait for this, wait for that.

I agree, 2009 CALI's are going to be BURNING realtors at the stake. NOBODY is going to be going to BEND.

BEND will be the realtor/builder suicide capital of the USA.

The smell of death will wreak so bad, nobody will even visit BEND-OREGON.

Anonymous said...

Builders/developers leaving Bend looking for the "Promise Land" either in a Box or Truck they are leaving.

Bewert said...

It's hard to imagine a spending frenzy when so much loss has occured in CALI RE. They are trying to keep their home, not their second home.

Anonymous said...

O-BOMB-A gonna gits me a check.

Anonymous said...

Obiwan Kenobi will get my money..much better head than O-Bama-loosa!!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

BAM!

So CACB DOWN 10% today.... I'm guessing earnings came out! Yeah!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yup. There's a hell of a lot of info here:

Cascade Bancorp (Oregon) Announces Second Quarter 2008 Net Income of $0.2 Million With Estimated Earnings Per Share at $0.01 With Elevated Provision for Credit Losses


Non-Performing Assets (NPA's -- including non performing loans and other real estate owned) were higher at $127.1 million, or 5.2% of total assets compared to $96.0 million or 4.0% of total assets for the linked-quarter primarily due to ongoing challenges in the Company's residential land acquisition and development loan portfolio. The increase in NPA's included residential development projects in Boise, Southern Oregon, and Central Oregon. See accompanying table for distribution of loans and NPA's by region.

So they are officially a Bank In Trouble, having gone North of 5% NPA as a % of total assets.

$7.40/sh, down 10.8% & plummeting...

Bye bye MossCo.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Non-Performing Assets by Region as of 6/30/08

% of % of % of
total total total
Region 6/30/2008 NPA's 3/31/2008 NPA's 12/31/2007 NPA's
Central Oregon $27,603 22% $5,560 6% $5,740 10%
Northwest Oregon 17,513 14% 17,542 18% 1,615 3%
Southern Oregon 26,190 21% 28,822 30% 22,793 41%
Total Oregon $71,306 56% $51,924 54% $30,148 54%
Idaho 55,799 44% 44,116 46% 25,397 46%
Grand total $127,105 100% $96,040 100% $55,545 100%


Sorry about hideous formatting, but you can see their real problems are in S. OR (41% of their NPA's) & Idaho (46%). Go look at the tables & you see that S. OR has a very small percentage of total loans, yet a huge chunk of the defaults. Idaho is similar but not as severe as S. OR.

Cent OR is doing relatively well so far.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

HELLO $6's!

$6.97, down 16% and the plunge continues...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

My God, that ID acquisition was a disaster.

Well, even Buffett had his GENERAL RE.

Warren Buffett's Problem Child
Now at the center of a series of investigations, General Re is one of Berkshire Hathaway's biggest buys -- and worst investments


Can't win 'em all.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

This will be covered in The Bull-shit'n tomorrow.

Have your Kool-Aid inoculation shots ready...

Anonymous said...

O-BOMB-A gonna gits me a check.

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I think a lot of people feel that way, that he's going to print money and hand it out, and people are going to feel rich again in cali, and all drive to BEND in their new Hummer and BUY RE, this april 2009.

Trouble is it DONT work that way, right now they prime the pump to get elected, next year, things WILL BE UGLY.

Bewert said...

Re: I think a lot of people feel that way, that he's going to print money and hand it out

That's what Bush did for so many years. Barack is smarter than that.

At least I hope ;)

BTW The Berlin speech is going to start soon, check it out if you are curious here:
http://origin.barackobama.com/live/

Quimby said...

>> That's what Bush did for so many years. Barack is smarter than that

Bruce, why do you get so wrapped up in politics? It's your Achilles’ heel. These bastards have been bought and paid for long ago.

BTW, your boy, Edwards, was caught diddling his mistress in LA the other day while his wife battles cancer. Sadly, I don't expect any better behavior by ANY other politician.

So why bother? It's like arguing over big city football teams. WHO GIVES A SHIT????? It's just a distraction from what's REALLY going on.

Bewert said...

Quim, what's really going on?

They may be bought and paid for but they still do different things. Some examples are in tax policy, environmental policy, etc. The Dems are by no means prefect, or even good, but at least they don't steal our money as blatantly as the Repugs.

tim said...

The big national news today is that housing sales "froze" in June, and that mortgage rates (while still low) are at a recent high.

Stories say that "buyers" are on the sidelines, waiting for prices to stop falling.

Truth is that the number of potential buyers is small. Just about everyone that could buy bought at 0%=5% down with no meaningful qualifications checked. It will be years before a meaningful number of people have even a 10% down payment. YEARS.

The rest of the truth is that, while there are not really very many qualified buyers on the sidelines, there are still tons of "hidden," "shadow," or "phantom" sellers on the sidelines who know it's impossible to sell now, but want to dump their RE so badly they can taste it.

I feel like we are 40% down with the fall.

Smart guys say that we're half done, but the amount of bank money that will be lost in the remainder of the slowdown is SEVEN times as large as what's been lost so far.

Anonymous said...

"there are still tons of "hidden," "shadow," or "phantom" sellers on the sidelines who know it's impossible to sell now, but want to dump their RE so badly they can taste it."

I checked out craigslist this morning and I still see lots of very optimistic asking prices. EXCEEDINGLY optimistic. Either people are really naive, or there not quite desperate enough -- just testing the waters. You know: "Let's first try it for $479,900 and see if anybody will take it." All the while believing that their house is SPECIAL.

It's also kind of sad -- lots of houses that have expensive finishes (e.g., solid wood interior doors) yet very BLAH styling on the outside. Many houses are loaded with fancy "upgrades" yet were designed by an architect at 7:45 am with a hangover.

Anonymous said...

That's what Bush did for so many years. Barack is smarter than that.

At least I hope ;)

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The DIFF now is WHO IN THE FUCK is O-BOMB-a going to borrow from?? The japs? The chinese? At least the BUSH-TRIBE has the ARABs in their pocket!

O-BOMB-A don't even have the jews.

O-BOMB-A is going to call for austerity, the Repug's have blew every penny in the piggy bank.

I don't think it will be that different than when we had CLINTON, o-bomb-a will get shit done, that the repug's couldn't get done, like expand the WAR in IRAN and elsewhere.

The big thing is that all the years of BUSH the taxes were kept low, a lot of this stuff expires now anyhow. NOT a good time to make money, but who cares? Nobody is making money now anyhow. Who care if capital-gains goes to an all time high, who in the fuck is going to pay?

Working people as ALWAYS will be paying MORE taxes, and NOTE not a fucking nobody is talking about social security.

I concur keep folks talking about football, and whatever, ...

Anonymous said...

Bruce-pussy, you are a traitor to this great nation. You support some slick-talking house-nigger from Chicago over a decorated war-hero who sincerely wants to serve his country as its president. Why don't you just renounce your citizenship and move to Cuba already. Maybe you can even get a job as Castro's bitch.

Anonymous said...

Bruce-pussy, you are a traitor to this great nation. You support some slick-talking house-nigger from Chicago over a decorated war-hero who sincerely wants to serve his country as its president. Why don't you just renounce your citizenship and move to Cuba already. Maybe you can even get a job as Castro's bitch.

Anonymous said...

The biggest thing right now in BEND is the artificial optimism carried by the BULL&SORE, everyday for the past two years we're told its about to TURN.

The thing is with ROADHOUSE closing, and a lot more, things are slowly grinding down to a halt.

THE BULL&SORE and its OWNERS ( HOLLERN ) are doing all they can by loaning money to keep things moving albeit slow.

By time, and keep things looking the same, trouble is years are wearing on, and more and more people can't keep waiting. Can't stay in BEND and borrow, borrow from WHO?

If you ain't a builder, think BLEDSOE or HOLLERN is going to give you a personal loan?

Sure you can get money if you have perfect credit, and tons of equity in your PRIMARY HOME, good money @ 4% from BofA. Not many people this late in the game are in that position.

We know we got to 2012 to clear the inventory GLUT of NOD's, then its the STD inventory that needs to be cleared. I'm already hearing from BUILDERS that ALL EAST-SIDE is permanently fucked, that the ONLY hope in the next five-years is westside, as that is the where the 'beautiful cali newbies' will buy.

East-Side looks too much like Riverside-CA, where they came from.

Suicides, the BULL does report if its an old nobody couple, but when the LEADERS of the BEND-BUBBLE start offing themselves, cuz when you lose mob money, your expected to off yourself. BULL&SORE ain't going to talk about losing its leaders.

OMERTA all the way with the old BEND and the new BEND.

( Omerta is mob talk for keep your mouth shut )

Lastly, as the shit and death gets worse, just another fucking reason to be anonymous in this rat-trap, cuz folks looking to off themselves, are going to be looking to take the reason for their misery with them.

Anonymous said...

Some of us love you BP, BEND has always bend a RIGHT-WING NAZI fucking PARADISE ( At least since HOLLER took over town in the 1960's ).

It add's color to this cunt laden blog site to have folks from both sides of the pig trough.

It's good to have a shit eating liberal believer in this mix of cynical curmudgeonly cunts.

Bewert said...

Hey, I'm only liberal when it comes to consenting adults in private.

I'm truely conservative when it comes to privatizing profits while socializing losses. The BushCo way.

Obama is a phenomenon. Folks like him are few and far between. I'm hoping he is on the good side. So far, except for FISA (a troubling slide back) he seems to be. It's time to bring back the estate tax for the superrich, it's time to figure out national health care, it's time to get our asses out of Iraq and a few other places and spend the money here at home. It's time to create jobs that pay more than $12 an hour. And to help the smarter ones among us to get an education, rather than pushing them into the eternal debt society when they go to college.

We're fucked up in a lot of ways. Maybe the progressive side of me thinks that we can actually make things better if we try. And are stubborn enough to keep trying.

I'm a stubborn motherfucker, something that's been noted since I was about four.

Bewert said...

Yep, I support that "slick-talking house-nigger from Chicago" who grew up to edit the Harvard Law Review. A smart fucking guy no matter where he came from or what shade of white/brown/black he is.

It's astounding to me that someone 50% black actually looks like he may be President of the United States. Absolutely incredible. Can you think of any other individual in the world who could bring out 200,000 people in Germany, for fucks sake, just to hear him talk?

Bewert said...

On a completely different note, it's cool how efficient diesels are taking over the endurance racing series like Lemans. See http://www.racecar-engineering.com/allarticles/261350/le-mans-in-depth-timing.html

Speed and economy. I want my TDI.

tim said...

>>Can you think of any other individual in the world who could bring out 200,000 people in Germany, for fucks sake, just to hear him talk?

Hitler?

Bewert said...

Scary, huh?

That's why I'm hoping he's on the good side.

tim said...

He's a politician. I never trust cult of personality. Especially in a politician.

Bewert said...

Just got off the phone about my longstanding request regarding any docs from Kuratek, et al to the City to document actual expenses.

Nothing. "We don't have anything like that, they just got to talking and figured it out, you know." Paraphrasing Patty Stell, City Recorder.

But at least they have records of communications.

And now Kuratek is back. With a 6% fee for any company he brings in.

Why doesn't that fee extend to others. Is it exclusive or what?

Bewert said...

Tim, I'm not exactly trusting either. But the alternative is ugly in my view.

Dems are proven to tilt towards regular people a whole hell of a lot more than Repugs. So I'll watch, work, and see WTF happens.

Bewert said...

CACB closed at $6.82? With heavy selling and virtually no buying volume. Hmmm...

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

>>Can you think of any other individual in the world who could bring out 200,000 people in Germany, for fucks sake, just to hear him talk?

Hitler?


We have a Winner Folks! This one cracked me up....

Anonymous said...

Paul, you are what is wrong with this country. Instead of doing something positive with your time, you spend it hating other people. Writing pseudo intelligent B.S. articles trying to convince others to join you in your miserable hate. Amazing how you've even managed to turn it against people who believe in working had. Nice fairytale of the Midwest, an utter crock. Go ahead, move there into your 75K house, raise your kids on one salary and send them all to college, all without losing any sleep. You're an asshole and probably a coward too. If I meet you I tell you to right to your face what I think of you. I think you should leave Bend.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Writing pseudo intelligent B.S. articles trying to convince others to join you in your miserable hate.

Cool -- pseudo intelligent

I've been called worse Cali-Banger.

Don't worry, you'll get a piece of the coming post... my "miserable hate" dictates such.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you just leave Bend you coward? Go to the Midwest, sleep all time, live the good life without working too hard. You're useless.

Anonymous said...

The key word in my post was actually "coward".

Anonymous said...

Here's an idea for your next blog entry. You go out and tell a bunch of people that you've observed in Bend that you hate them and want them to leave town. Tell it to them to their face that they are what is wrong and people like you are right. Anything else and you are just a blowhard.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

The Dems are by no means prefect, or even good, but at least they don't steal our money as blatantly as the Repugs.

And the blatancy with which they rip us off is the important thing.

:-)

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

You go out and tell a bunch of people that you've observed in Bend that you hate them and want them to leave town.

Mainly cuz I'm lazy.

bruce is your man. He actually does shit.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Anything else and you are just a blowhard.

Oh shit. I'm between a rock and a hard place guys! She got me on the legal mumbo jumbo! Oh fuck!

I'm really fucking screwed here! Someone help me out! She's got me boxed in with airtight logic! Oh No!

How can I tell it's a woman? A man would NEVER say such BULLSHIT! Ahhhh!

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

You go out and tell a bunch of people that you've observed in Bend that you hate them and want them to leave town.

How's this:

Hello. I was observing you and wanted to tell you about how excess consumption and people's inability to infer general principles from a story when an anecdote involves their home state, is killing this country. So in the spirit of brotherhood, I hate you and want you to leave Bend.

Please feel free to cut my leg off at the knee, and unmercifully use it to kick me in my own crotch with my severed leg, cuz I've followed the advice of a motherfucking angry Cali-Dike on a blog.

Thank you for your time.


Is that good?

Again, bruce is your man. He do shit.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Go to the Midwest, sleep all time, live the good life without working too hard. You're useless.

Strangely, you sound like many of my friends.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

It's astounding to me that someone 50% black actually looks like he may be President of the United States. Absolutely incredible.


Ayyyyyyyyy brucey.

You prove my opinion that the only greater racist than a bloodthirsty Repub Nazi racist, is a Liberal racist.

Why "astounding"? Why? Cuz in a liberals heart of hearts they believe Blacks and all races are literally incapable of tying their shoes without LIBERAL MORALLY SUPERIOR PEDANTIC ASSISTANCE.

"I'm WHITE & I'm here to HELP!"

Switch roles & TRY to put yourself in THEIR SHOES.

I'm {your race here} and I'm here to help you {other race} people, cuz you're fucking idiots.

What if a black person uttered, "It's astounding to me that someone 50% white actually looks like he may be President of the United States. Absolutely incredible". Would you, the racially INFERIOR WHITE DUMBFUCK be insulted or just happy as shit?

I have many over-the-top liberal friends, typically that way, because they believe it bestows on them pedantic academic brilliance & the obligation & duty to look down on all other human beings as inferior, and they believe that they are the most NON-racist people on Earth.

But when I turn their statements regarding race, and SWITCH the races on them, they IMMEDIATELY get angry, because they see that what they've just said is heinously racist. Liberal racism has no self-awareness. They don't even realize how horribly racist they are.

That's why I don't really care if typically offensive words like NIGGER are used here. I actually have enough respect for Blacks (or African Americans, or People Of Color, or whatever the fuck they are today) to say stupid shit & believe that they will not suffer a mental breakdown. Blacks insult whites everyday, and somehow we've survived.

Lots of my lib friends think I am an unconscionable racist, yet they treat blacks as incapable boobs who can't survive without sort sort of assistance that can only be doled out by white-guilt fueled faux-academic white guys. Oh geez.

Obama. I don't give a fuck what color he is. You'll see the first test when he is lambasted live by some dumbfuck white hick who screams NIGGER at him on live TV. It'll happen. Liberals will DUCK & COVER and stammer uncontrollably in their praise of Obama & lambasting of dumbfuck Whitey, acting like Obama is a fucking moron & is about to have a stroke. Repubs will look at what Obama throws back in the 10 seconds after. If he backs him down IN STYLE, that 2nd term is a slam dunk, cuz he'll get the other half.

Look for it. THAT will be The Seminal Moment for Obama. NOTHING, NOTHING will instill more good feeling THROUGHOUT this country (yes, even beyond liberals to the 100% RACE BASHING REST OF THE USA) than watching Obama back down some dumbfuck idiot.

tim said...

Can we get back to Bend and/or Real Estate?

Bewert said...

COnsidering that this country was orignially based on freedom by and for whites, including some who owned black slaves, yes, it's rather remarkable. This "freedom" did not include women, either.

I do enjoy hearing a great speaker on a mission, white, black, yellow, or brown. Listening to W is embarrassing, a statement about how low we have fallen.

But rant on ;)

Bewert said...

Damn, Paul, the beer is affecting my fingers again...excuse the typos.

When some Rush-dumbfuck says NIGGER to Obama, I bet he just looks at him and ignores him. Doubt it would be the first time. Harvard isn't exactly black-friendly.

Quimby said...

I really don't get it. The presidency should not be a popularity contest. Obama is simply the cute articulate green-horn debate team captain fresh off the college campus. How long has he been a US Senator? Compared to McCain, not that I'm in love with McCain, how can you fucking compare the leadership experience?

Going around the world to campaign??? When do we need other country's signoff or approval to elect OUR president? I could give a fuck what Germany thinks. When the world starts sending US billions in aid, I'll start paying more attention. Obama has a rock star strategy popularity and I'm afraid that the American people are too fucking dumb to see through it and make an intelligent election decision. We are FUCKED.

What does this have to do with the Bend Bubble?? According to Buster's rumors, if Obama gets elected, Bend will come roaring back and the fucking Cali's will start rolling up in droves again. And you know, we can't have that bullshit happening again.

Bewert said...

Paul-doh, this is the kind of thing I really like to see, I respect. It's being smart for the long run:
"In Venezuela, a Scion Opens His Family Land to the Poor"
EL CONSEJO, Venezuela Alberto Vollmer is as blue-blooded as they get -- a blond, rakishly handsome heir of one of Venezuela's richest and oldest families. It is a family that owns the fabled Santa Teresa sugar cane hacienda and rum distillery, the one where 19th-century independence hero Simón Bolívar announced an end to slavery.

In Venezuela, where President Hugo Chávez divides his countrymen into two groups -- the exploited poor and the malevolent oligarchs -- Vollmer would seem to fall into the latter category.

But officialdom does not scorn the U.S.-educated president of the Santa Teresa rum maker. Instead, because he has founded two highly successful programs to provide the poor with land and job opportunities, he has found a way to earn the respect of the self-styled revolutionary government. The programs have so effectively defused social tensions -- in a country famous for them -- that even officials in other countries emerging from conflict have sought him out for advice.

Vollmer, 39, wearing a tailored suit as he sips a mochaccino, chuckles with enthusiasm as he talks about the initiatives.

But he also explains that a cold calculation went into his thinking when he started the first one in 2000. At the time, he faced what other hacienda owners here have confronted -- poor squatters, whose decision to take over land sometimes ends tragically.

"If you resort to violence or being reactive or defensive, you're at an enormous disadvantage," said Vollmer, the descendant of German immigrants. "And you put yourself in a situation where you're not thinking in terms of going beyond your own boundaries."

More at the link. If more of the inherently rich were concerned about the social good (i.e. as Buffett seems to have affected Gates) rather than their own lifestyle, a whole lot of things could be accomplished.

I can't wait until someone you love has a serious ongoing medical issue. That may affect your conservatism a bit.

Bewert said...

Quim, you would rather have President McSame than President Obama. Why, pray tell?

He is smart, articulate, and has accomplished some things at a rather young age. Going around the world to meet the leaders he will have to work with if elected actually seems smart to me.

How long was JFK a Senator? How did someone from such a lowly background get to the point JFK, from a powerful background, was at roughly the same point in his life if he was not extremely intelligent and articulate.

Oh, I forgot, it must have been a secret benefactor he met while organizing neighborhoods on the South Side of ChiTown that got him this far.

Quimby said...

>> I can't wait until someone you love has a serious ongoing medical issue. That may affect your conservatism a bit.


WOW.

Bruce, life sucks and there's not much the gummint and raising my taxes can do about. It sucks if you're rich OR poor.

tim said...

I've thought a bit about Buster's discovery of the April 2009 Miracle story.

All I can come up with is this:

There are always people who need something. Those people always have a story of how what they need will surely come to pass.

I think that's all the story is--a narrative of hope in the face of facts which foretell doom.

Bewert said...

Re:Can we get back to Bend and/or Real Estate?

The taxation and other economic decisions made by the next administration will greatly impact both.

BTW-Did you see Gramlich's letter to the editor in the Source today?

Bewert said...

Re: I think that's all the story is--a narrative of hope in the face of facts which foretell doom.

That's called faith.

Bewert said...

Re: Bruce, life sucks and there's not much the gummint and raising my taxes can do about. It sucks if you're rich OR poor.

Funny how it doesn't suck as much in all the other industrialized countries vis-a-vis healthcare. They spend half or less of what we do, for better results. NPR has been doing a whole series on it lately--MS patients in Britain and the US were today's subjects.

But then you probably listen to Fox more than NPR.

Quimby said...

>> That's called faith.

Very true. And I'm afraid its all some people in this town have. Unfortunately, its a faith in the re-inflating of a now-deadly real estate bubble.

Folks, you CANNOT be a one trick pony in life.

LavaBear said...

>>There are always people who need something. Those people always have a story of how what they need will surely come to pass.

Kinda like the world is coming to an end in 2012?

Bewert said...

Re: Folks, you CANNOT be a one trick pony in life.

Quim, that is something I totally agree with. It's killing us here. I am so stubborn I want to just keep fucking beating on the CC and whomever else I can think of until they understand this.

Quimby said...

>> Kinda like the world is coming to an end in 2012?

Lava, is that true? Ahhh SHIT. There goes my north pole expedition planned for 2013.

Bewert said...

BTW, please check that WaPo article out, it's really good.

Over and out, see you at 4 AM.

Quimby said...

>> But then you probably listen to Fox more than NPR.

Why would you say that? I don't listen to jack squat. Quimby don't have much but he got a good bullshit detector and I smell it ripe and nasty in 99% of politicians.

Life for people the world throughout, if they're one bit introspective and honest, generally sucks and there isn't a damn thing anybody (including gummint $$$ and programs) can do about it.

Tim, very astute observations too about "The Story" that must be believed.

Bewert said...

One last thought--most people really like to work at something. It's the human condition. It's why we grew to "rule" the planet. Or at least think we do.

Bewert said...

Re: Life for people the world throughout, if they're one bit introspective and honest, generally sucks...

That's pretty dark. I've been to a lot of places where people wouldn't agree.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

They spend half or less of what we do, for better results. NPR has been doing a whole series on it lately--MS patients in Britain and the US were today's subjects.

Yeah, health care in this country is a problem nearly on scale with the housing bubble in it's implications, and its barely on the radar. Just like housing, it has the capacity to seriously hobble this country financially...

LavaBear said...

>>You're an asshole and probably a coward too.

>>The key word in my post was actually "coward".

Ok, so you ARE an asshole. We can all agree on that. I'd say that is a compliment around here. But then Cali-Banger says the key word is "coward". I'd say the key word from that sentence is asshole but the other key is "probably" a coward.

When this blog started you were considered a nut job. That hasn't changed. But now that Cali-Bangers all over town are realizing you were right, the hatred is coming out. As summer turns to fall and the debt becomes unbearable there will be many more Cali-Bangers looking to blame someone.

A month or so ago it was deafeningly quiet around. My theory is most people around town couldn't possibly believe it was really happening. Thus they shut the fuck up. Now that reality is coming in loud and clear the tone has changed.

LavaBear said...

Can you pull the trigger on Wamu at $3.50? They survive the weekend and then Bernie/Paulson/Blaire come out and do a stick save and by Tuesday it's trading at $8.00?

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Quimby don't have much but he got a good bullshit detector and I smell it ripe and nasty in 99% of politicians.


People ask me, stop me in the street all the time, say, Ross, do we have bad people in Washington? No. We have good people in Washington trapped in a bad system, and we have got to change the system.

Ross Perot

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Our legislative system as it exists today makes it difficult, if not impossible, to solve complex problems because it deals with images, sound bites, dirty tricks, fist fights on the floor of the house and things like that.

How would you like to go in the hospital with a severe heart problem and have all the doctors get around the operating table and start to fight instead of working on your heart? Think about it.


Ross Perot

I love Perot. A pretty smart level-headed guy with fairly straightforward answers to difficult questions.

Fucker never had a chance in Washington.

Anonymous said...

I don't suspect he [Bledsoe] has the cash flow, to make it to the light at the end of the tunnel. Prove my assertion WRONG.

I can't prove it wrong but you can't prove it right either. Neither of us is privy to the details of the guy's finances. Time will tell, to coin a cliche.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Can you pull the trigger on Wamu at $3.50?

Damn. Down 43% since Mondays highs.

I am, for better or worse, "all in" on my retirement funds. I would have to dip into taxable at this point, and THAT is indeed a rare event.

I am also pretty hesitant about buying banks. They are leveraged to such an extent that that thin sliver of equity sitting atop that pile of debt can just be wiped out in a heartbeat.

I approach these things from a low-level business perspective, and the stock price & its speculative movements are a distant second.

I also lament missing US Airways however (LCC). You'll find my comments on that 3 weeks ago, and I should have been ready when it broke to $1.50.

How do you contemplate the current stock market, we asked Warren Buffett, the sage of Omaha, Neb.

"Like an oversexed guy in a harem," he shot back. "This is the time to start investing."

The Dow was below 600 when he said that. Before we could get Buffett's words in print, it was up almost 15% in one of the fastest rallies ever.


Warren Buffett, 1974 Forbes Interview

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Yesterday, and it was probably nothing, I saw a large group of well-dressed folks being shepherded out & away from CACBs headquarters downtown...

Again, probably nothing, maybe a training group. About 20 people.

Anonymous said...

The Infrastructure First group filed petitions today to get its initiative on the November ballot. Essentially it would require the city to have the infrastructure necessary to support new development in place before the development happens, or at most within two years of the development, instead of the present "system" in which we let the developers throw up all the crapshacks they want and worry about putting in the roads, sewers, etc. later ... if ever.

Predictably, the builders are screaming like their nuts were being cut off. “The city of Bend has so many deficiencies in (its) current system, I’m afraid it will take the city forever to catch up before any new growth could happen,” squeals Andy High of COBA.

And that would be bad ... how? We already have a de facto moratorium on RE sales; this seems like a good time to put the brakes on new construction, draw down the inventory and catch up on needed infrastructure improvements.

According to the BULL, Wilsonville has had a similar law in place for 20 years and it has worked pretty well for them. Of course they haven't had the frantic growth Bend has experienced. But again, why is that a bad thing? How many people can claim with a straight face that the crazy growth of the past 20 years has made Bend a better place to live?

Anonymous said...

Bruce, life sucks ...

There's the true conservative philosophy -- life sucks and there ain't nothing we can do about it. Very inspiring.

Life doesn't intrinsically suck, but some greedy bastards make it suck for the rest of us. And there are things we can do to stop the greedy bastards from making it suck so hard. One of the first things we can do is stop electing them to public office.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I am, for better or worse, "all in" on my retirement funds...

Even THIS is pretty rare for me, in recent years. I went to largely cash in early 2004, just below DJIA 11K.

I last bought taxable in 2001-2003. I bought all sorts of stuff. Cleveland Cliffs (CLF)... Perini (PCR)... Station Casinos (STN... but it got bought out)... Centex (CTX. I know. A homebuilder. But it did go from $20 to $80, before breaking back to the teens.)... Phillip Morris (MO, which spun off Kraft KFT). These were some of the most reviled stocks of the day.

Also bought a real boner in AIG.

If you check 5 year charts on these, you'd think I'd have watched the money pile up over the past few years. Some yes, not NEARLY what i should have. I have great buying instincts, and terrible selling instincts. TERRIBLE. Lesson Learned: To hell with selling, hold it through hell & high water. And even in the above monsterous winners (PCR went from the $3's where I bought it, to near $80 last year), there were sharp & painful downturns.

Just Hold.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

From The Archives
Warren Buffett--In 1974

04.30.08, 4:45 PM ET

Under the 1974 headline, "Look At All Those Beautiful, Scantily Clad Girls Out There!," this profile in Forbes magazine captures Warren Buffett's personality and chronicles the singular path he cut through the investment world. Though the piece is 34 years old, it sheds light on the man behind Berkshire Hathaway as the company's shareholders meet this weekend in Omaha, Neb.

Robert Lenzner and Evelyn Rusli will be reporting from Omaha all weekend. You can find the latest on the shareholders' meeting here.

How do you contemplate the current stock market, we asked Warren Buffett, the sage of Omaha, Neb.

"Like an oversexed guy in a harem," he shot back. "This is the time to start investing."

The Dow was below 600 when he said that. Before we could get Buffett's words in print, it was up almost 15% in one of the fastest rallies ever.

We called him back and asked if he found the market as sexy at 660 as he did at 580. "I don't know what the averages are going to do next," he replied, "but there are still plenty of bargains around." He remarked that the situation reminded him of the early '50s.

Warren Buffett doesn't talk much, but when he does it's well worth listening to. His sense of timing has been remarkable. Five years ago, late in 1969, when he was 39, he called it quits on the market. He liquidated his money management pool, Buffett Partnership, Ltd., and gave his clients their money back. Before that, in good years and bad, he had been beating the averages, making the partnership grow at a compounded annual rate of 30% before fees between 1957 and 1969. (That works out to a $10,000 investment growing to $300,000 and change.)

He quit essentially because he found the game no longer worth playing. Multiples on good stocks were sky-high, the go-go boys were "performing" and the list was so picked over that the kind of solid bargains that Buffett likes were not to be had. He told his clients that they might do better in tax-exempt bonds than in playing the market. "When I got started," he says, "the bargains were flowing like the Johnstown flood; by 1969 it was like a leaky toilet in Altoona." Pretty cagey, this Buffett. When all the sharp MBAs were crowding into the investment business, Buffett was quietly walking away.

Buffett settled back to manage the business interests he had acquired, including Diversified Retailing, a chain of women's apparel stores; Blue Chip Stamps, a western states trading stamp operation; and Berkshire Hathaway, a diversified banking and insurance company that owned, among other things, a weekly newspaper, The Omaha Sun. The businesses did well. Under Buffett's management, the Sun won a Pulitzer prize for its exposé of how Boys Town, despite pleas of poverty, had been turned into a "moneymaking machine."

Swing, You Bum!

Buffett is like the legendary guy who sold his stocks in 1928 and went fishing until 1933. That guy probably didn't exist. The stock market is habit-forming: You can always persuade yourself that there are bargains around. Even in 1929. Or in 1970. But Buffett did kick the habit. He did "go fishing" from 1969 to 1974. If he had stuck around, he concedes, he would have had mediocre results.

"I call investing the greatest business in the world," he says, "because you never have to swing." You stand at the plate, the pitcher throws you General Motors at 47! U.S. Steel at 39! And nobody calls a strike on you. There's no penalty except opportunity lost. All day you wait for the pitch you like; then when the fielders are asleep, you step up and hit it."

But pity the pros at the investment institutions. They're the victims of impossible "performance" measurements. Says Buffett, continuing his baseball imagery, "It's like Babe Ruth at bat with 50,000 fans and the club owner yelling, 'Swing, you bum!' and some guy is trying to pitch him an intentional walk. They know if they don't take a swing at the next pitch, the guy will say, 'Turn in your uniform.'" Buffett claims he set up his partnership to avoid these pressures.

Stay dispassionate and be patient is Buffett's message. "You're dealing with a lot of silly people in the marketplace; it's like a great big casino and everyone else is boozing. If you can stick with Pepsi, you should be OK." First the crowd is boozy on optimism and buying every new issue in sight. The next moment it is boozy on pessimism, buying gold bars and predicting another Great Depression.

Fine, we said, if you're so bullish, what are you buying? His answer: "I don't want to tout my own stocks."

Any general suggestions, we asked?

Just common sense ones. Buy stocks that sell at ridiculously low prices. Low by what standards? By the conventional ones of net worth, book value, the value of the business as a going concern. Above all, stick with what you know; don't get too fancy. "Draw a circle around the businesses you understand and then eliminate those that fail to qualify on the basis of value, good management and limited exposure to hard times." No high technology. No multicompanies. "I don't understand them," says Buffett. "Buy into a company because you want to own it, not because you want the stock to go up."

"A water company is pretty simple," he says, adding that Blue Chip Stamps has a 5% interest in the San Jose Water Works. "So is a newspaper. Or a major retailer." He'll even buy a Street favorite if he isn't paying a big premium for things that haven't happened yet. He mentions Polaroid. "At some price, you don't pay anything for the future, and you even discount the present. Then, if Dr. Land has some surprises up his sleeve, you get them for nothing."

Have faith in your own judgment or your adviser's, Buffett advises. Don't be swayed by every opinion you hear and every suggestion you read. Buffett recalls a favorite saying of Professor Benjamin Graham, the father of modern security analysis and Buffett's teacher at Columbia Business School: "You are neither right nor wrong because people agree with you." Another way of saying that wisdom, truth, lies elsewhere than in the moment's moods.

All Alone?

What good, though, is a bargain if the market never recognizes it as a bargain? What if the stock market never comes back? Buffett replies: "When I worked for Graham-Newman, I asked Ben Graham, who then was my boss, about that. He just shrugged and replied that the market always eventually does. He was right--in the short run, it's a voting machine; in the long run, it's a weighing machine. Today on Wall Street they say, 'Yes, it's cheap, but it's not going to go up.' That's silly. People have been successful investors because they've stuck with successful companies. Sooner or later the market mirrors the business." Such classic advice is likely to remain sound in the future when they write musical comedies about the go-go boys.

We reminded Buffett of the old play on the Kipling lines: "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs … maybe they know something you don't."

Buffett responded that, yes, he was well aware that the world is in a mess. "What the DeBeers did with diamonds, the Arabs are doing with oil; the trouble is we need oil more than diamonds." And there is the population explosion, resource scarcity, nuclear proliferation. But, he went on, you can't invest in the anticipation of calamity; gold coins and art collections can't protect you against Doomsday. If the world really is burning up, "you might as well be like Nero and say, 'It's only burning on the south side.'"

"Look, I can't construct a disaster-proof portfolio. But if you're only worried about corporate profits, panic or depression, these things don't bother me at these prices."

Buffett's final word: "Now is the time to invest and get rich."


Again, 1974 article.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Cascade Bancorp's Q2 profit well below analysts' view
Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:19pm BST

July 24 (Reuters) - Cascade Bancorp's (CACB.O: Quote, Profile, Research) quarterly profit missed analysts' estimates by a huge margin as provision for bad loans drastically rose and the community bank slashed its quarterly dividend by 90 percent, sending its shares down as much as 16 percent.

Net income for the second quarter was $181,000, or 1 cent a share, compared with $10.2 million, or 36 cents a share in the year ago period.

Analysts expected earnings of 14 cents a share, excluding items, according to Reuters Estimates.

Slashing its dividend to 1 cent a share from 10 cents a share, the company said it remains committed to "prudently preserving capital and focusing on maintaining strong reserves against possible loan losses."

Provision for loan losses increased to $12.6 million from $1.0 million, while net interest income fell 12 percent to $24.2 million.

Net loan charge-offs were about $9.9 million for the quarter.

The dividend will be paid on Aug. 11 to shareholders of record as of Aug. 4, the company said.

Shares of the company were down $1.24 at $7 in morning trade on Nasdaq, after touching a low of $6.92 earlier. The stock has lost 41 percent of its value since January. (Reporting by Sweta Singh in Bangalore; Editing by Bernard Orr)


I want to see MossCo's spin on THAT.

LavaBear said...

>>I have great buying instincts, and terrible selling instincts. TERRIBLE. Lesson Learned: To hell with selling, hold it through hell & high water.

My smart ass wife always...frickin ALWAYS...says "you haven't made anything unless you sell it." But that is in our "taxable" accounts as you say. In retirement/401k/IRA's/College fund that shit is all hold forever dollar cost averaging. I try my best to look at it every quarter or so and adjust accordingly. It's the "taxable" crap these days that I'm dealing with. Since we cashed out on all RE and I'm tired of the banks 3% sketchy rates....it's now more hands on me fucking it up. The accountant in the family suggested we purchase a house. Fuckin fucker.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

I have great buying instincts...

And this is not so much due to skill, intelligence, or some other virtue.


I am simply a Cheap Bastard. I DO NOT buy stuff that is over valued, in my view. I don't even buy stuff I see as fairly valued, any gain will be swallowed up by transaction costs usually. I wouldn't buy a house that was overvalued, even if I easily had the money. It's not in me.

When I buy stuff, it typically is targeted for destruction. Armageddon has been 100% discounted in the price.

Cleveland Cliffs was NOT the next Google back in 2003... it was a dead boring mining crapper. Hadn't gone anywhere in a decade. Blah. Boring.

But I saw it as ridiculously cheap. It was insanely cheap. Armageddon priced in. So I bought.

Compare Cleveland Cliffs to Google and you'll see the former outperformed by multiples... but still, to this day, all I hear is "Google.... Google... Google..."

Same with Perini. Station Casinos by comparison was a real dog... only went from the teens to $100 or so...

LavaBear said...

>>all I hear is "Google.... Google... Google..."

As Taleb would say...noise.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

And I am seeing, for the fist time in 5-6 years, another shot at buying certain small sectors of the market where Armageddon is 100% discounted & priced in.

Look around, they're there.

Use Googles stock screener. Look for below book value, liquid, low debt, high current ratio stuff.

They number in the hundreds now, there used to be none.

MSN used to have a hell of a screening tool, only works on IE though, and I jumped ship on that long ago.

If we dropped from here, I would only buy more aggressively. Again, I don't care so much about S/T speculative gains/losses... I'm looking for the long score. 10-20 bagger. All else is uninteresting to me.

I KNOW I will suffer unpleasant S/T losses if the market tanks, BUT I will load up progressively on the way down, and I don't even care or worry about the "comeback". I'm just buying stuff far, FAR below what I think its worth, and believe THAT will be the fundamental driver in sorting out how I do L/T.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

If we dropped from here, I would only buy more aggressively. Again, I don't care so much about S/T speculative gains/losses

And if that did indeed happen, I have NO DOUBT that the naysayers would dogpile me here in the comments.

SEE! HE'S WRONG! HE'S HORRIBLE MARKET TIMER. FALSE PROPHET!...

That's OK. That's why most people suck ass at investing. THAT is their metric of success, S/T "quotation" performance.

I don't give a shit about that. But remember that: MOST PEOPLE are HORRIBLE investors. Why? Most people LISTEN to that shit, and then it seeps into their psyche, they become insecure and bail out when their mettle is truly being tested (ie The naysayers look dead right).

Fuck them. Buy low, and forget it. Walk away mentally, don't tell people what you're doing, and dodge that bullet altogether.

I AM buying here. Well, I was. And I don't give a shit about the S/T. In a way I don't even care about the L/T. I've more or less walked away mentally from the idea of selling, because I've learned that SELLING IS MY ACHILLES HEEL.

It's mine, maybe not yours. CACB Short & Timmy sold short & bought CACB many moons ago, and both won. Different strokes, different folks. You DO NOT have to mimic me or anyone else "to win".

Do what makes sense for you & stick to it.

IHateToBurstYourBubble said...

Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:01 AM EDT
Central Ohio foreclosure filings jump 40% in 2Q
Business First of Columbus

Metropolitan Columbus turned in one of the 50 highest housing foreclosure rates in the nation in the second quarter, but it fared better than most other cities in the state, RealtyTrac reported Friday.

Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac, which compiles and sells real estate data, reported the number of Central Ohio homes that slipped into the involved process of foreclosure soared nearly 40 percent from the second quarter of 2007. Central Ohio ranked 31st on the foreclosure list, logging 6,825 foreclosure filings in the quarter, or one for every 122 households.

Ohio had 37,689 homes enter a state of foreclosure during the quarter, one for every 134 households.

RealtyTrac's report incorporates documents filed in all three phases of foreclosure, including default and auction notices and filings on repossessed properties. Bank repossessions accounted for 30 percent of foreclosure activity nationally in the quarter, up from 24 percent in the first quarter, RealtyTrac CEO James Saccacio said.

But Columbus' troubles paled by comparison to Stockton, Calif., which led the list of metro areas with one foreclosure for every 15 homes. The markets in the most turmoil were found largely in the West and Southeast. Riverside-San Bernardino, Calif., was second on the list of cities with one foreclosure filing for every 32 houses, followed by Las Vegas with one for every 25 households, RealtyTrac reported.

Metro areas with the fewest foreclosures was led by Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, Pa., with one foreclosure for every 317 households, and Honolulu, which recorded one filing for every 250 households.

Among other Ohio cities, RealtyTrac reported:

Toledo ranked 21st nationally, with one foreclosure for every 92 households in the quarter.

Akron was 22nd, with one for every 93 households.

Cleveland was 26th, with one for every 108 households.

Dayton was 29th, with one for every 115 households.

Cincinnati was 41st, with one foreclosure for every 161 households.

Nevada again topped the list of states, with one foreclosure for every 43 households in the quarter. California was second on the list, with one foreclosure per 65 houses, followed by Arizona, with one for every 70 homes.

The most stable market in the quarter belonged to Vermont, which posted one foreclosure filing for every 8,366 homes. It was followed by North Dakota, where one foreclosure was recorded for every 6,035 households.

LavaBear said...

>>Do what makes sense for you & stick to it.

Right now I'm hovering. Taking gains here and there. Hoarding cash and depositing into banks of J&J and PG. My theory is...I'm going to go long term shopping for the most beaten down stocks after they cancel Christmas this year. All bets are off if we get the next guberment check. I'll adjust accordingly.

tim said...

>>Time will tell, to coin a cliche.

You're just invoking a cliche. Coining a cliche means inventing it.

And inventing a cliche doesn't make sense, since it's nto a cliche when it's fresh.

You can hope that your coinage will eventually become so ubiquitous that it becomes a cliche, but that's just a hope. And you didn't coin anything new anyway, so it's not even a hope, is it?

tim said...

Hey ICBINB, I didn't know you were a fellow Cleveland Cliffs investor. Have you mentioned that before? They made me very happy.

Anonymous said...

Wilsonville has had a similar law in place for 20 years and it has worked pretty well for them. Of course they haven't had the frantic growth Bend has experienced.

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Let's make this clear, in the past 25 years, wilsonVILE was the fastest growing city in OREGON. They also have the highest per-capita bank-accounts per person than any other city in OREGON.

What WILSONVILE did long ago is say "IF YOU BUILD a HOUSE, YOU MUST BE THE ACTUAL SDC, its over $60K". Guess what? In a town where everyone had 'real money', it was simply the cost.

BEND is NOT what it appears, its NOT ASPEN, WILSONVILLE is a town if rich people who want top notch schools, librarys, ... for their children. BEND is a town that HOLLERN created to build as many crap-shacks as possible, and pass all the expenses on to the general tax-payer.

Sure WILSON-VILE is a good model of how things can be done, and should be DONE, but the diff is that WILSON-VILE is a TOWN of rich people, while BEND is a company town, and only 1-3 guys have any say in what is done. ALL the politicians are owned in BEND by these 1-3 guys, and they all use the same lawfirm.

In WILSON-VILE there are 100's of rich guys, and they all have their own lawfirms, in WILSON-VILE, stuff got fixed long ago, cuz they had no choice. IN Bend ONLY one fucking question is asked "Is this good for HOLLERN".

End of fucking story.

Bend is what it is because its citizenry are shit eaters, and its media & gubmint is all controlled by a few old white men that own all the the worthless desert land.

The deal with BEND is that the general taxpayer pays the SDC & PR/MARKETING for the boss-hogg.

In wilson-vile, nobody would put up with this SHIT.

IN Bend its always been this way, and nobody ever ask's questions.

REMEMBER HOLLERN OWNS THIS TOWN. INCLUDING THE PUMMY-POWDER under the BULL.

Anonymous said...

It says that O-BOMB-A gets elected, and the calis go into a spending frenzy, and blow the wad on BEND RE.

Problem with that scenario is that the Calis don't have any wads to blow because their RE market has tanked too. The days when you could sell the little tract house in CA that you owned for 30 years for $2 million and buy a place in Broken Top are over.

Anonymous said...

I love Perot. A pretty smart level-headed guy with fairly straightforward answers to difficult questions. Fucker never had a chance in Washington.

Absolutely. The fucking media killed him -- which is what they do to any politicians who REALLY delivers "straight talk" and challenges the accepted wisdom of the punditocracy.

Anonymous said...

BEND is NOT what it appears, its NOT ASPEN, WILSONVILLE is a town if rich people who want top notch schools, librarys, ... for their children. BEND is a town that HOLLERN created to build as many crap-shacks as possible, and pass all the expenses on to the general tax-payer.

Bingo. Except Hollern is not the only Boss Hogg in this town.

Anonymous said...

Looked up Wilsonville on city-data.com. It's pretty affluent but not Beverly Hills affluent -- median household income is $54,900. (Bend's is $46,800.)

tim said...

Medians don't tell you how many rich people there are.

tim said...

Audia confirmed. Sad business there.

Anonymous said...

Tim, Sorry that is was true.

Anonymous said...

Looked up Wilsonville on city-data.com. It's pretty affluent but not Beverly Hills affluent -- median household income is $54,900. (Bend's is $46,800.)

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NOBODY said BV-H, we're TALKING SDC's CUNT.

Wilson-Vile is a place where there are MORE millionaires than any where else in OREGON

WILSON-VILE is a place where you MUST pay the cost of SDC to build a home.

FOLKs in WILSON-VILE now have the best schools, and librarys, and PIG-SHOP that money can buy, cuz the town is NOT ran by mob RE builder twats.

WILSON-VILE is the town BEND could be if OUR city-hall, wasn't owned by the HOLLERN-TRIBE, aka BROOKS-MOB.

THIS is why BEND will always BE LA-PINES ( or Redmond, or Madras ), and WILL NEVER BE ASPEN.

Anonymous said...

Blogger tim said...

Medians don't tell you how many rich people there are.

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Medians don't mean SHIT.

Why is it after two years, we're still in a fucking circular debate?

tim said...

Jumbo rates at a recent high, and about 1.2 over normal 30-year rates (also at recent highs).

If you're trying to sell a house over $350k, good luck. You better have a kick-ass deluxe house and stumble into a cash buyer.

Anonymous said...

Where is the proof that audia died? wouldn't it be in the obituraries?

Anonymous said...

Bingo. Except Hollern is not the only Boss Hogg in this town.

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HOLLERN is 98% of ALL of the tri-county area.

Sure the other 2% are a few millionaires, but the HOLLERN-TRIBE is BILLIONAIRE.

There is ONE BIG FISH, and there are a few dozens minnows like Sebastian, ... all wannabe HOLLERN's, but will never be cuz, they didn't inherit tens of 1,000's of acres of worthless desert land.

They didn't come to the area in the 1960's with a cali-MBA, with the single mission of PR&marketing this desert shit-hole.

Yes, there are many boss-hoggs, but there is ONLY one BOSS-HOGG who owns this company-town.

There is ONLY one BOSS-HOGG who owns the pummy under the BULL.

tim said...

>>Why is it after two years, we're still in a fucking circular debate?

Because we're 3 years into a 7 year slump.

I remember you bringing up Wilsonville way back when I brought up a town in CA that was kicking ass for the same reason--they were putting infrastructure first.

Anonymous said...

I remember you bringing up Wilsonville way back when I brought up a town in CA that was kicking ass for the same reason--they were putting infrastructure first. - tim

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I know, and I HAVE said a 1,000 times, and I have hammered this since day here, and I concur 7 mean, cruel, suicidal years, and as HOMER says, most will NOT even want to live here when the shit gets the fan.

How pray tell? Did it happen?

It happened, because a greedy town let one bastard take over the town, and run it, on the premise that everyone would get rich. Just like body-snatchers, everyone went along. All away down to baby-cunts like HBM @ the SORE, who a liberal like OUR BP, but saw a chance to get rich on east-side STD.

So they went silent post 1998, when HOLLERN announced the NEW-BEND-ORDER. HOLLERN had to have a free ride on SDC's, but he made sure all the other builder's did also, as folks need choice. The builders came from the valley like SEBASTIAN post 2002, and they left places like WILSON-VILE, to build in BEND where it cost nothing, and everything was PURE PROFIT. There were no rules, so long as you didn't fuck with the BOSS-HOGG-HOLLERN.

By 2006 utter insanity hit, and the SHIRE was announced, UBS pulled out of the KURATEK JR deal, and by SEP-06 the TOP was marked, now here we are in YEAR-TWO of a seven year slide.

WHY? Well it will take to 2010 to clear the inventory, and BEND/OREGON always takes another two years to pull itself out of the shit. By 2013 folks will start wondering into the desert wasteland looking for deals, and by then the people who really bought on the bottom will look like geni-asses, and then things will slowly build back up towards 2018.

Right now HOLLERN/BLEDSOE are loaning their own money to keep the town from imploding, but it will not work.

The TOWN of BEND the ultimate PONZI scheme as HOLLERN set himself up to be on the apex of the pyramid. BLEDSOE is the latest LUCKY-JOCK-STRAP to show up, and blow his retirement.

Almost all the builders in BEND are now doing yard work in order to buy food. Soon the people paying to do the yard, will quit paying, as that be their food money at $50/week going into the toilet.

You'll hear more suicides, and more ARMED muggings at walmart,costco lots, where more people will be more desperate for $50.

BEND could have been a real nice place had it been pay as you go, had they forced the builder's to pay actual SDC, this town would be swimming in cash for any pet project of their wish. Instead they borrow $16M so LesSchwab can put a building at Juniper-Ridge.

HOLLERN certainly made a billion, but now he's house rich, and more cash poor everyday. He knows its not coming back for twenty years, and has said so, on many occasions.

Now for the next 10+ years, BEND will struggle for infrastructure, they'll be broke, their credit will go to shit. Folks with kids will think twice even if they're rich about moving to such a place that doesn't collectively care about public services.

HOLLERN got richer, the liberal guard of BEND is largely back where they started before they sold out to HOLLERN post 1998. Now they remain silent as most victims of common fraud normally remain, too embarrassed to publicly admit they had been conned.

Anonymous said...

One of my relatives is a REALTOR (RE-HO) in cali.

In the RE shop, 50% have lost their homes to date via FORECLOSURE.

1/2, and get this RE hubby's that had divorced their RE wife, are moving back into her home, as opposed to being homeless, ex-wife can't find a BO right now anyhow, as nobody has money, no point of a middle-age woman being in a relationship, if the BO has no cash. Might as well take in the ex and make him pay rent.

1-2 years ago, all the realtors I know said working 4X hard for 1/4 income, now its still 4X hard for 10% of the income, some haven't had a commission for 1-2 years, and are living still on the last big-one.

I'm sure those doing NOD's are making money, on volume, but good old fashion 'word of mouth' realtors who match buyers and sellers are starving, and moving back home post losing the home.

The #1 reason deals aren't closing is the RACKET is all contingent upon selling a prior, as nobody can get a 'bridge loan' nor wants one, you can find a house, and a price, but you can't sell your house.

Thus RE paralysis in CALI ( SO-CALI ), is here.

Those that sold the kool-aide to others drank it themselve's, the second homes are long gone, and now they're losing the primary.

Credit cards max' out last year, HELOC's dried up in 2006.

Realtors will soon be living like Mexicans or Aseans ten to a house.

Somebody really think it coming back?? HOME-OWNER-SHIP is going to be a pariah for years to come, we got up to 70% ownership, and most likely will go below 50%, and remain below for a generation.

In order to pay the DEBT of USA, which is 1/2M per person or more, I see the MTG DEDUCTION going away, and there will be NOBODY to fight it, as RE lobby as we know will be mute.

INVENTORY in BEND tri-county? ten, twenty, thirty years?

No jobs, infrastructure not paid for in boom times, city in massive debt, 50% un-employment.

I wonder what MARGE is seeing on the RE front if her buddy's are seeing the FORECLOSURE's like my relative is seeing in So-Cali??

tim said...

>>I wonder what MARGE is seeing on the RE front if her buddy's are seeing the FORECLOSURE's like my relative is seeing in So-Cali??

I'd think it's bad with Bend Realtors, but not bad like in California. The California boom had a much larger percentage of weird-ass mortgage instruments.

Lots of people are hosed in Bend in much more gradual (interesting) ways which provide false hope. California happened so fast it was almost anti-climatic. It's the difference between a badly-made put and a badly-made short. Leverage.

Bewert said...

Re: Audia

Confirmed(?) when the BULL business headline "40 years, 100,000 homes
Fuqua Homes celebrates its anniversary"

Ironic as hell.

BTW Buster keep up the ranting. It's good info.

tim said...

In other words, sometimes it's better to blow up in 6 weeks than to spend six years being sucked dry.

The leveraged blow ups happen so fast there's no decision to make.

The slow leak is so painful because you're second-guessing yourself all the way down. You're trying stuff and nothing's working.

Quimby said...

Bruce, while we're on the subject of dark thoughts....there are many dark thoughts around Bend these days and I'm afraid, more to come with all the pain.

A fitting tune for the mood courtesy of our friend Will Oldham:

I See A Darkness

Well, you're my friend, that's what you told me
And can you see what's inside of me
Many times we've been out drinking
And many times we've shared our thoughts
But did you ever, ever notice, the kind of thoughts I got
Well you know I have a love, a love for everyone I know
And you know I have a drive to live I won't let go
But can you see it's opposition, comes arising up sometimes
That it's dreadful antiposition, comes blacking in my mind

And then I see a darkness...

And did you know how much I love you
Is a hope that somehow you, you
Can save me from this darkness

Well I hope that someday buddy
We have peace in our lives
Together or apart
Alone or with our wives
And we can stop our whoring
And pull the smiles inside
And light it up forever
And never go to sleep
My best unbeaten brother
This isn't all I see

Oh no, I see a darkness...

And did you know how much I love you
Is a hope that somehow you
Can save me from this darkness

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tim said...

Mrs. Tim's been picking up real estate fliers again.

Some of them actually say "Short Sale" on them. I don't remember that from last year.

I've also noticed that the Bulletin's gravy train has slowed down. Despite many more houses for sale, the number of pages of real estate in the classifieds are way down. Less pages. Less color. Smaller ads.

Bewert said...

Thanks, quim, that's a hell of a song. No TV, but music, eh? Good choice.

I've been getting dark with Leonard Cohen lately, especially "The Future", which is incredibly apropos in this time of BushCo:

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

When they said REPENT REPENT ...


That link above is to a recent concert version--the really dark original version backs this scene in "Natural Born Killers".

I've been listening to way too much Leonard lately...

tim said...

Bulletin doesn't have much of the "scary" Bend news. For that, you go to Google New's Bend coverage...

http://news.google.com/?geo=97701

Bewert said...

Tim, where did you get the Audia confirm?

BTW, I have that news link in my news.google.com homepage.

tim said...

I got three confirmations. Two I can't mention without revealin that I'm batman. And the third is the Bulletin's death notice...

http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080724/NEWS05/775927933/1164/NEWS05&nav_category=NEWS05

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Anonymous said...

Bull Obit:
Jay Audia, of Bend

October 15, 1959 - July 19, 2008

Arrangements: Niswonger-Reynolds Funeral Home is handling the arrangements, 382-2471

Services: Memorial Service will be held on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 12:00 noon at the Westside Church. Contributions to the Westside Church in Jay’s name will be appreciated.

Bewert said...

RE BULL death notice.

He's very close to being two years younger than me. What an incredible waste.

tim said...

Yeah, it's awful. I hope we have no more of these.

Anonymous said...

Met with some more folks tonight to chat about our economy.

1.) Post-Office
2.) Truckers
3.) Builders

Postal workers are scared, mail is down to single digits compared to ten years ago, all over the country offices are closing, its white collar vs blue, the folks in the office are trying to privatize delivery and sorting. Even the blessed 1986 pensions are now at stake, even with the new 1cent raise, they're still losing money. My friends have 30 years, must keep working to put kids through college, and are very worried about keeping their job.

Builders everywhere have no work, its much worse than we're even suggesting, all over the west-coast all work is slowing down to a trickle.

The truckers are really fucked, expenses up on fuel 100% YOY, but less shipping, and trucks now don't sell, a majority of big&small trucking firms are now facing BK.

I think the bad news is going to hit the fan real bad, sadly BUSH will not admit a recession let alone a depression until his term is over. Then he'll blame O-BOMB-A.

I now have quite a few 30+ year friends in their 50's that have been laid off from high-tech here in OREGON, and have NO hope of finding a JOB.

All this SAID, as a land-lord I'm seeing MORE outsiders than ever before looking for a place here. They're all the same, just calling from MI,CA, ... where-ever and wanting to rent whatever on the phone to MOVE to OREGON, the blessed country exempt from the recession. LIKE FUCKING SHIT, see this is the REAL fucking problem with NOT telling the TRUTH, outsiders don't have a FUCKING clue what's up in OREGON.

I never get very far with these fuckers, as they all seem to believe that you don't need a job or income to rent a home. They just think you can come here with nuttin down, and move in, I kid you fucking not, no application, just call an confirm, just like where they're coming from, where land-lords are so fucking hard-up, they'll give six-months in advance to suck an occupant, ... These fuckers from CALI are moving here, and expecting the same terms!!!!

As you can imagine, ...

AGAIN BULL&SORE if your listening, and I know you ARE, PLEASE tell the truth, our homeless is already exploding, and these people think there are jobs here, and US already here, know this to be not the truth.

This ALL gets back to the HOLLERN con-job, just keep the demand high for BEND and the inventory will correct itself, to fix that notion, let me make perfectly CLEAR that 100% of these people I'm seeing DON'T HAVE A FUCKING DIME. It's not like they're bringing a nickel in, just another hungry fucking mouth.

At some point 'we the people of bend' have to take action, and collectively edoocate the BULL&SORE that having +50% of homeless beggars roaming in BEND will NOT fix the fucking bubble.

Anonymous said...

If you don't buy this affordable ( disposable ) home, I'll blow my brains out in six months.

Low-cost 'Disposable' houses in Bend's future
Big question is whether development will portend a drop in land prices
By David Fisher / The Bulletin
Published: January 23. 2008 4:00AM PST

A bank foreclosure on a 38-acre chunk of land in northeast Bend has dropped land costs to the point where a group of Bend developers say they’ll be able to sell new houses again this summer for as little as $189,900 apiece, or a little more than half the 2007 median Bend sale price of $349,000.

Whether buyers will buy remains to be seen: At the moment, they’re not snapping up Bend houses very quickly at any price.

But developer Jay Audia said he and his partners are confident that they’ve found a price range that will attract first-time buyers to a market that was skewed by a three-year bubble that pushed local home prices to record heights, at least partly due to soaring land prices.

“I see a lot of people trying to find a bottom,” Audia said Tuesday. “They’re dropping their prices maybe $5,000 here, then $10,000 there. But we’re jumping ahead of the market, and this is going to find the market.”

...

We jumped ahead to July 19, 2008 and we found bottom, its not pretty at the bottom. Sadly most of Bend will end up at the bottom, because our leaders have decided to lead the town off the cliff and into oblivion.

...

Form a Real Estate Pool with other peoples money, and lose your neighbor and community's life savings. Overnight from a civic leader, to an obituary notice. Not even your friends at the BULL willing to put note on losing one of their own.

Omerta, this is Bend-OR the town of broken dreams and wasted lives. Always has, and always will be.

*

The top golfer in Bend, takes himself out during the same week as the failed opening of the world class Tetherow Golf Course.

tim said...

>>the failed opening of the world class Tetherow Golf Course.

I don't know anything about that.

Be a pal, Buster, and clue a poor cunt in.

tim said...

>>At some point 'we the people of bend' have to take action, and collectively edoocate the BULL&SORE that having +50% of homeless beggars roaming in BEND will NOT fix the fucking bubble.

That's the post of the day.

The ONLY people who should come here now are wealthy people who can afford to lose money.

Quimby said...

>> Two I can't mention without revealin that I'm batman.

Damn, I KNEW it!

Quimby said...

Audia...very sad indeed.

RIP, and remember boyz. Money is made and lost all the time but family and friends are most dear.

If you have a worldview which causes you to pick friends/family (wife etc) who are only interested in the CASH/Power/Status etc, you have a major problem.

Boy do I love my wife who ain't into that shit and helps keep me grounded. (She rolls her eyes when she sees me on this blog)

RIP Jay Audia.

Anonymous said...

Timmy is hooked up no doubt about it. He just surfs here to get the real goods on what the surfs have to say. Maybe his boss is the BOSS!

Anonymous said...

OY..we are in trouble when the boyz won't RIP one of the guys that has done so much for CO. The BULL is chickenshit for not reporting this. Although they may not be able to be sincere or delicate. Do you Bulls hear this? This needs to be reported. Bend is not a Pot O' Gold. It is a pot o'shit which takes people down.
Is there a ral reporter in this town? Challenge!!!

tim said...

>>Timmy is hooked up no doubt about it.

I'm only hooked-up once removed. I know a couple people who know everyone.

I just got here. I don't know shit.

tim said...

I'll be surprised if there isn't a tribute to Audia this weekend in the Bulletin. Probably Sunday.

Anonymous said...

I hope that is true..otherwise we will be once again be confirmed the BULL is the totally chickenshit useless rag that is has been for ever.

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tim said...

A lot of second thoughts on your posts tonight, Marge?

Anonymous said...

Is there a ral reporter in this town? Challenge!!!

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There is its called the Oregonian ( big zero in orygun speaks ), they'll do a job, ... then shortly thereafter, the BULL, ... then perhaps the SORE.

Hell how come nobody hear hasn't published some of OUR SHIT on the SORE web?? Don't ask me, they IP blocked me over a year ago.

I think the thing to do is publish more stuff that AUDIA did in the last six months, NOTE how BULL used D-FISHER to talk shit about the most recent pig-splash in 'disposable-housing', note the city-hall has been doing credits et-al all along for 'affordable/disposable' housing.

We might even see the WSJ do a story, they like trashy stories about little towns that go down, and murder/suicide to boot!

The thing right now is to PULL IT ALL TOGETHER and get it all documented, and then leave the BULL no ROOM to re-invent history.

Anonymous said...

Oregon to debut one of America's top golf courses in 2008: Tetherow Golf Club in Bend
By Brandon Tucker, Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 22, 2008

BEND, Ore. - If the high desert boomtown of Bend, Oregon isn't on your golf radar yet, it's sure to get your attention this year thanks to the addition July 26 of yet another new stunning golf course: Tetherow Golf Club.

The main hub in central Oregon, Bend has exploded in population over the last decade, bringing some high profile golf and real estate developments with it. Scottish golf course architect David Mclay Kidd, who built Bandon Dunes' flagship links course five hours west, even moved his U.S. offices here.

That's not all Kidd has brought to Bend. On July 26th, Tetherow Golf Club will open. It has the potential to become the northwest's most talked about new golf course outside of the Seattle area's Chamber's Bay.

Anonymous said...

"Is there a real reporter in this town? Challenge!!!"

don't forget we have OPB in town now, which has been the most fair by far . . . not having any advertisers.

Anonymous said...

Audia and Mombert win Two Man Links at Bandon Dunes

published 20 Apr 2005

Championship Flight Winners
Jay Audia and Brad Mombert
by Pete Wlodkowski, for amateurgolf.com

BANDON, OREGON (April 20, 2005) -- The amateurgolf.com Two Man Links Championship concluded today at Bandon Dunes, with two of the three divisions producing heated battles all the way 'down to the last' in the 72-hole event.

Jay Audia and Brad Mombert of Bend, Oregon enjoyed a four stroke lead at the start of Wednesday's final round in the Championship Division. They were paired in the final group with amateurgolf.com Founder Pete Wlodkowski of Carlsbad, California and his partner Erik Hallgrimson of Los Gatos, California, a Commercial Real Estate Broker

Anonymous said...

This needs to be reported. Bend is not a Pot O' Gold. It is a pot o'shit which takes people down.

*

Nobody put a gun to Audia's head that said "You have to take other peoples money during a falling-knife RE market, and build a ton of disposable housing", even if you have the full blessing of city-hall behind you.

Everybody in this 'body-snatcher' town has been COMPLETELY fucking silent the past four years, especially that CUNT HBM and SWITZER of the SORE, our so called liberal paper.

Like right now, the BIGGEST fucking thing this year is the opening of TETHEROW! TOMORROW the GRAND-OPENING.

I suspect with the collapse of disposable home sales, and the complete collapse of GOLF memberships, and the failure of completion, and funding of TETHEROW, and a complete INVESTMENT FUCK. That the pot o'shit is looking like a real easy way out of Bend.

This isn't about losing your money, this is about a total collapse of the FUCKING BEND DREAM-MYTH.

Nobody's talking, NOBODY is saying SHIT, but the ENTIRE house of cards is collapsing at warp-speed.

Many more BEND civic leaders will be taking the pot o' shit OUT in the coming months.

Taking a UHAUL and not worrying about saving-face in a face-less shit-hole town, where nobody cares about anything other than seeing the HOLLERN pay's NO SDC's.

The FUTURE of BEND.

1.) Suicide, Nothing to live for the MYTH of BEND is dead, and thus you have nothing to live for.

2.) Get the fuck out, and take what you can, and go LIVE somewhere. Where people just fuck all day and eat fruit. Think Thailand. It's not that expensive, and a hell of a better investment potential in the near future.

3.) Spend all your CASH, and wait until BEND comes back, and you too are homeless. Just sit and wait another six years and listen to the BULL every three months say "This quarter will be the turn-around". This is an endless game, that generally would be the legal definition of insanity, e.g. doing the same thing over & over, and expect different results.


Did I miss any options??


4.) Minimized spending, keep a low profile, keep your mouth shut in public, watch your back. Make sure you owe nothing to anyone, and have at least five years saving's on hand to survive the next five years of austerity in Bend.

Anonymous said...

>>At some point 'we the people of bend' have to take action, and collectively edoocate the BULL&SORE that having +50% of homeless beggars roaming in BEND will NOT fix the fucking bubble.

That's the post of the day.

*

Tetherow needs people to pickup balls. The prediction is ALL the homeless in the Pacific NorthWest will not be enough people to pick up all the golf-balls at Tetherow.

Tetherow promises to pay $1/ball. Right now homeless only get nickel/bottle.

Buses are on standby all over the country to Bend. Where will they all stay? Mike Hollern of Brooks says no problem, its a company town, and GOLF is Bends future. Given the city is picking up the golf-ball recovery and deposit fee. Mr Hollern says that everyone that comes to Bend gets an affordable home of their choice. No payment for the first three months, with an option to buy the first three years.

Bend's population is predicted to go to 500k, even then it will not be enough people to pickup the golf-balls.

David Kidd, king of Golf in Bend predicts that Tetherow will be the busiest golf-course in the world, 24 hour/day demand, six four hour shifts, staggered just so everyone can play. Tetherow initially will be charging $50/18-hole, but plans on charging $500/18-hole after the first 30 days.

The City of Bend has promised to budget $12M/mo for the collection of golf clubs. Bend's Mayor Abernethy says "Its a real two-fer, we got tons of credit, and given that there are no jobs in this town we have just created 1,000 new jobs in Bend, where everyone gets $1200/mo and only works four hours day, which gives them tons of time off to float the river".

Bend is the future, all this from the little town that brought you the Shire.

Get the word out all over America. There are jobs in Bend, good paying jobs in an exceptional company town. No experience, no education required.

Just bring your willingness to drink, eat, and golf.

Convinced? Then ask about the HOLLERN-HOMELESS-CAREFREE package, six months advance pay, and full benefits. Play now, work later.

BEND is the future HOMELESS MODEL, a place where everyone can live like Randy Sebastian, and end up like Jay Audia.

Quimby said...

>> Tetherow needs people to pickup balls.

Fucking beautiful Buster, LMAO!

Anonymous said...

It would be interesting to see where CACB and other BEND regionals are on the FDIC problem list.

Regulators Close Two More National Banks
July 26, 2008 Washington Post

First National Bank of Nevada and First Heritage Bank were closed by U.S. regulators yesterday, the first institutions to fail since regulators seized IndyMac Bancorp two weeks ago following a run by depositors.

First National Bank of Nevada, with $3.4 billion in assets, and California-based First Heritage Bank, which had $254 million in assets, were undercapitalized, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency said last night in a statement. Mutual of Omaha Bank acquired their deposits, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which was named the receiver.

Lenders on the FDIC's "problem list" grew to 90 in the first quarter from 76 in the fourth quarter of 2007, the FDIC said in May. The FDIC insures deposits at 8,494 institutions with $13.4 trillion in assets. The OCC is an agency of the Treasury Department that regulates national banks.

Anonymous said...

Best place to live? Oregon, let alone BEND, isn't even on the 100 list this year. Perhaps we're on the 'worst place to live'. We're always #1 somewhere!

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2008/top100/

Rank City Population
1 Plymouth, MN 70,100
2 Fort Collins, CO 129,400
3 Naperville, IL 142,900
4 Irvine, CA 193,900
5 Franklin Township, NJ 59,100
6 Norman, OK 102,800
7 Round Rock, TX 92,300
8 Columbia/Ellicott City, MD 158,800
9 Overland Park, KS 166,700
10 Fishers, IN 61,800
11 Olathe, KS 114,600
12 Highlands Ranch, CO 102,600
13 Parsippany/Troy Hills, NJ 52,900
14 McKinney, TX 107,500
15 Carrollton, TX 121,600
16 Cary, NC 112,400
17 Eagan, MN 63,700
18 Richardson, TX 99,800
19 Hunter Mill, VA 124,100
20 Allen, TX 73,200
21 Abington, PA 57,400
22 Troy, MI 81,100
23 Piscataway, NJ 53,900
24 Apple Valley, MN 50,100
25 Sully, VA 158,500

Anonymous said...

Yep, the SLIDE is on full scale.

In 2006 Money Magazine rated Bend, OR as one of the top ten places to live.

Two years later, well we're so far down the list, we ain't even on the list.

It's amazing when you become a pariah, what it does to your rep. Just wait a few days, when the news that our civic leaders, top golfers, and leading builders of 'disposable housing' are blowing their brains out.

Anonymous said...

• The city with the most suicides per capita is Medford, Oregon.

They forgot portland oregon,nastiest homeless population on earth.

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Some people think Bend, might over take Medford as #1.

Folks in Medford, now call it MethFord. Why? Calis.

Has anyone noticed the 10X increase in homeless guy's in Bend? I'm seeing the homeless guys on bikes pulling trailers here now, as frequent as you see them in on Portland east side.

Anonymous said...

All away down to baby-cunts like HBM @ the SORE, who a liberal like OUR BP, but saw a chance to get rich on east-side STD.

LMAO!!! Yeah, I only WISH I got rich! Shoulda bought a ton of Bend RE back in the mid-1980s when I came here, but I wasn't interested in making a pile -- just wanted to make a living and live in a nice small town. If I had foreseen what was going to happen I never would have come here. Oh well, it stayed nice for about eight years ...

Anonymous said...

Is there a real reporter in this town?

Better question: Is there a real reporter in America? (Well, okay, Seymour Hersh. But he's about 90 years old.)

Anonymous said...

Did I miss any options??

If you're a psychiatrist or a forester, New Zealand will let you immigrate.

Anonymous said...

Better question: Is there a real reporter in America? (Well, okay, Seymour Hersh. But he's about 90 years old.)

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George Seldes,

It must be strange work, to write that what pleases your boss. Given his/her strings are pulled hourly.

I guess that is why letter grades are so important in this country. If your an 'A' student, it means you can please all the people all the time.

We can agree that we'll not wait until a reporter comes to Bend to fix our problems, this is why this blog exist.

'We report, you decide' to go blow your brains out. Darwinian journalism in Bend, Oregon.

Anonymous said...

>>Has anyone noticed the 10X increase in homeless guy's in Bend?

Call it 100X.

Three years ago, there was one guy I kept seeing who looked homeless, and there were maybe 10 people who were maybes. Now they're all over. It's like Eugene or Portland.

Anonymous said...

WRT to of our own HOOD (BEND), check out patrick.net for the link to Ron Paul's testimony comment on the new housing banking bill, that just passed.

Like Paul say's, one of the most interesting features is that the new BILL ( HOUSING EMERGENCY ), gives the IRS unlimited access to all VISA information ( I'm talking credit cards ).

This is going to get interesting. I know tons of builders, who work under the table, yet use the fucking plastic instead of CASH.

Like PAUL says, the IRS has done this to go after non-payers into the system, all they have to do is integrate your credit-card spending, and payoff data and send you a bill for taxes. The government is going to go after every hard, and given that we're broke with full force.

Like PAUL says, the cause of an emergency, is taking away our privacy, and forever.

Not that I care, as I have always felt that the GOVERNMENT was looking at this data anyhow, its just that now ALL CREDIT-CARD data will be kept by the friendly IRS.

1984, BraveNewWorld, ... It's here.

Anonymous said...

Call it 100X.

Three years ago, there was one guy I kept seeing who looked homeless, and there were maybe 10 people who were maybes. Now they're all over. It's like Eugene or Portland.

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Yeh, a few years ago, there were a ton camping in the summer along the Tumalo, and a lot camping down near Walmart.

Like I predicted with Rileys opening at NWXC, they're moving back up into the woods around NWXC, now that their is a beer store.

Most noticeable last week, I was working on my bike in the driveway, and a guy drove on his bike, pulling his gypsy trailer right into my driveway. I get a little paranoid, given I have tons of tools.

He of course just wanted to 'chat' about my bike I was working on, but it's now seeing one a month to 1/2 dozen/day guys riding by with their bike towing their gypsy trailer ( just like PDX ). Getting more brazen, looking around at stuff, no doubt, its called the scope, and explore.

Note I live near Newport, but I bike the area west. I look like I'm homeless the difference is I don't tow a trailer, ... quite often they're riding a better mtn-bike than mine!

I have no real problem with the homeless issue, as we know already that this time last year there was a known 5k homeless in BEND, its most likely 10k now.

The real problem I have is these kids ( 20-40 ) moving to Bend with no job, and expecting to move in a house with nothing. Generally they're all the same, an adult is has never told them in their fucking life, that they really mean what they say. Begging doesn't get far with me.


I give the homeless money if they ask, but they have to promise to use it for beer.

I don't give the cali-kids shit, they expect shit, demand shit. At least the homeless are in general vets, or builders who are at the bottom.

This said its not a bad life, cruise around Bend on a bike, looking for bottles ( or tools ), hang with friends getting drunk every day, not have to work, not a bad life. Most these guys have already worked hard all their life and got no where.

Then the kids moving to Bend now without jobs, they have no intention of working, never have worked, and are just between parents.

tim said...

>>The real problem I have is these kids ( 20-40 ) moving to Bend with no job, and expecting to move in a house with nothing.

So you in particular don't let these kids into your houses without jobs.

But what about other landlords? What are they doing? Are they demanding income or tax documents or at least rental/mortgage payment history?

There are some people desperate to get their houses rented, but are they desperate enough to let in people who will only pay the first month or two?

Anonymous said...

Tim,

Remember there are, ...

1.) Folks who have NO fucking biz being land-lords, enough said Bend like MethFord (medford) leads the nation in meth cooking, you let a person in w/o job, history, ref, doc, your opening the door to a meth-cook, NOTE insurance doesn't cover, and DEQ wants $1M for remediation. Want to FUCK yourself quick in BEND rent a home to a meth-cook.

2.) Pro's people who know the biz, screen, screen, screen. History, references, proof of income to pay the fucking rent.

3.) Pro's who rent shit-shacks that wreak of death, and smell like lysol, ok this is where the kids with no jobs go.

In Oregon its virtually impossible to kick out a squatter once you given them the keys. If you know when they moved in they were destitute nobody will have sympathy.

I will not dis-agree that 90% of BEND's rental are #1 above, and this is why all the kids assume that all the land-lords are #1, when they see a #2 they're pissed, and they don't want to live #3 either, as they're the ones that fucked that up.

I know kids that just move around in packs, and FUCK houses, and then bail when the girlfriends say it stinks, and then go fuck another house.

Screen, Screen, I'm NOT defending stupid people. If you want to rent a nice house to people who can pay the rent, then you must require them to PROVE they can be the rent. Oregon allows whatever screening you want, you just have to be consistent in APPLICATION of the rules to everyone equally the same.

Tim, I think you missed my point, my bitch is these kids that think they have a right to live in your house for free, cuz nobody in their fucking lives to date has ever said NO to them. I see tons of them all day long, and on the phone all day long.

Parents started the ZERO-DOWN at home, and the kids want to move out, but assume the ZERO-DOWN will continue their entire lives, there are no jobs, and thus we're all obligated to house the little parasites.

I'm not saying we're already not up to our necks, I'm saying the FUCKING CITY-HALL is still reeling them in this TOWN, that's why we have the music for FREE all summer, to get them to move here. They get here, and there is no work, and they have to hustle.

Kids from cali now come here with FULL personal ID's bought online, that include references you can call, jobs, fake parents, fake education. It's not hard for someone who knows how to screen and use the law enforcement database to quickly prove that these KIDS are virtual. It used to be 50% of applicants were fraud, now in Bend I'm seeing +80% fraud.

Remember BEND is a fraud, so its NOT surprising that fraudulent lazy parasitic kids from all over want to move here.

Anonymous said...

So you in particular don't let these kids into your houses without jobs.

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Almost all rental agreements stipulate proof of income.

Normally that is a job, a job transfer, or a trust-a-farian.

Kids can get free legal-aid, the land-lords must pay +$200/hr, at court the legal-aid lawyers can say it cruel to kick a kid out, knowing full well that they had no ability to pay. Hell why not open your home and garage to the homeless tim? There are almost 10k in Bend that would love to live in your garage, for free, I'm mean you know they can't pay the rent.

When I moved here in the 1960's I came without a job, got a place on a handshake for $100, and never worried, I had $800 in my wallet, I knew I could pay the rent six months.

Now I see kids coming to Bend that can't even pay the MOVE-IN, e.g. first rent and cleaning deposit. They have nothing, zero, a car with no insurance, nothing no cash, no job. Just a dream.

Like many of said, PDX is where CALI losers can't make it, and BEND is where PDX losers can't make it, BEND is the bottom of the barrel. Nobody comes to BEND except to play.

Just getting a job at say Deschutes brewery is like being a rock star in this town. Most kids I know ( +20 ) live with their parents.

Bend is FUCKED.

Yes, I rent to people with jobs, or proof of INCOME. It's called the 'screening process',

tim said...

I think I got your point. There are people who want to come here, but they are the "wrong" people.

Wrong meaning unhelpful to our situation. They can't buy a house for cash, they can't get a jumbo loan, they can't even be relied upon to pay the rent.

Meanwhile the people who want out are the professionals who realize that this town is killing their career. They have maybe one place they can work in town (maybe). If they leave that job, they have to move, or take a shitty service industry job they can't really afford to have.

Bewert said...

Re: Meanwhile the people who want out are the professionals who realize that this town is killing their career. They have maybe one place they can work in town (maybe). If they leave that job, they have to move, or take a shitty service industry job they can't really afford to have.

Exactly. Jobs. Real jobs. For those who can't or don't want to be self-employed in something profitable enough to live here. Preferably with mainly non-Bend customers.

Twice now in the last 10 days I've run into oppostion to this view, once from the Mayor, who dressed me down saying they were perfectly aware of real employers needing 10+ acres, and that even though JR only set aside 100 acres for such employers, there were "private lands" adjacent for them.

And the second being one that caught me totally by surprise, one of the leading Dems in town stating that she was happy that JR was going to be mostly nice neighborhoods, as tney certainly didn't want a big industrial park next to them.

I keep coming back to Chattanooga. They seem to be doing things right. A town of 175,000 doesn't score a billion-dollar manufacturing facility without doing shit right. Not that Bend needs anything that big, but it could use a few 500-1000 person real employers, i.e. living wage and benefits.

Right now we are moving to prevent such employers from ever coming here.

tim said...

>>And the second being one that caught me totally by surprise, one of the leading Dems in town stating that she was happy that JR was going to be mostly nice neighborhoods, as tney certainly didn't want a big industrial park next to them.

The one thing business can't stand is that kinda setup. Business can take harsh conditions, but business cannot take whim or indecisiveness or unpredictability.

Great case in point is Eugene, which set up its planned industrial growth area in the middle of a bunch of wetlands. Businesses that came in were steered there, then were promptly in the midst of wetlands mitigation and lawsuits.

>>Chattanooga

My brother keeps saying Fayetteville Arkansas. Apparently he has Seattle buddies pouring over that-away, which I would never have expected. He says they are all talking about starting web stores there because it's cheap and walkable and an easy drive to a bunch of great east coast cities. Go figure.

tim said...

I just looked at the map. Scratch what I said about driving to the east coast. I must have had that mixed up with Tennessee and NC, which are the other places his buddies in Seattle are going.

Anonymous said...

Great case in point is Eugene, which set up its planned industrial growth area in the middle of a bunch of wetlands.

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I have different historical view on that cluster-fuck.

Long ago, HYUNDAI and lot of other chippers wanted to come in for cheap white-labor, and cheap-water, as dillution is the solution to pollution in ORYGUN. If you have enough water you can flush any toxic shit down the drain in ORYGUN ( thanks DEQ )

Now a long time ago the chipper's were looking around, and they found cheap land, out by Springfield,...

It was cheap land, cuz its in a wetland, of course if your a chipper, thats a good thing, as you need 500k gallons/day to flush the shit down the river, these chipper's were toxic.

I suspect that city-hall didn't go out of its way to make the chipper go to the wet-land, or make the wet-land the industrial park.

Simple fact is the chipper ran the show, they ONLY wanted lots of cheap water, and cheap white folk in bunny suits.

Of course today ALL chip factorys are in ASIA so its all a mute point.

The chipper's would have only gone to places that were near the willamette River, or on an aquifier, such as a wet-land.

Yes, the chippers got ran off, but this has more to do with the fact that Hyundai and Summitomo had HUGE fucking toxic federal waste ligation history from CALI, and they couldn't promise EUGENE that they wouldn't fuck the water table.

It's almost repuglican to blame liberal pol's, but I'll agree on one thing, nobody had any fucking idea what was going on, but then today its all fucking irrelevant, cuz a chipper would never have a $5Billion dollar FAB here in the first place.

Anonymous said...

A town of 175,000 doesn't score a billion-dollar manufacturing facility without doing shit right.

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A billion dollars wouldn't get you a 100mm fab these days.

A town scores, for ONLY one fucking reason, like JR, you pay for the land, the infrastructure, and make them tax-exempt for 15year that is how you 'score'.

Go ahead BP call that a 'score'. It's ONLY corporate welfare, it has no other name.

By your logic we scored 'LS', and got 350 low paying jobs, stolen from prineville, that will be BENDS greatest score of the decade.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Jobs. Real jobs. For those who can't or don't want to be self-employed in something profitable enough to live here. Preferably with mainly non-Bend customers.

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Well now that BP, has made the JUMP, and is talking like a REAL fucking politician.

Let's all remember that the ONLY job a pol ever created is the kind of job they created at TETHEROW, by paying people $1 of tax-payer money to pickup golf-balls.

That's job creation.

There is NO way in FUCKING hell that any politician every any where created a fucking job. They just steal from one group, and transfer to another to seek election. It's always a NET-ZERO transfer.

Anonymous said...

They have maybe one place they can work in town (maybe). If they leave that job, they have to move, or take a shitty service industry job they can't really afford to have.

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My fucking GAWD tim, THIS is BEND its always been this way, folks came from PDX to get one fucking job, and found out they had to work 7/12's, and quit, and then went back to PDX. It's been that way forever here.

It's simply amazing how we re-hash shit that's BEEN BEND for a zillion years.

That's my favorite, come to Bend to fish, ski,... Then you get the ONLY job in your field and they work you like a slave, cuz you ain't got no fucking choice. So, they go back to PDX, where you work 5-8's, and have weekend's off. Nobody in BEND ever had weekend's off in the private sector.

Let's cool the fucking crap.

Bend is only about three groups.

1.) homeless
2.) parasitic kids
3.) retirees, dumb fucking retirees from cali, who thought that their crap shack would go to $1M

That's 99%, the rest are the 1% that have a real-job.

tim said...

>>I have different historical view on that cluster-fuck.

By "different," you seem to mean "wrong." I think you just got a few facts messed up.

The industrial expansion zone was out toward the ugly west of Eugene (the opposite direction from Springfield). This area was earmarked for expansion because no one gave a damn about it. It was where you were supposed to go even before Hyundai started sniffing around. There were a few warehouses and things going in before Hyundai came in.

It's the part of town you see when you drive in from the airport. Nowhere near the river.

Springfield got Sony Disc, not Hyundai. Sony Disc went bye-bye and left Springfield a long time ago. Hyundai plant cut dramatically about a year after it opened due to switch in DRAM generations. It then gradually geared back up as Hyundai went through some problems.

It's been running for years as Hynix, but last Thursday it was marked for death and will cease operations after September.

Anonymous said...

"Bend is only about three groups.

1.) homeless
2.) parasitic kids
3.) retirees, dumb fucking retirees from cali, who thought that their crap shack would go to $1M

That's 99%, the rest are the 1% that have a real-job."

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then who are all these people i see all over town every day commuting to and from work, in fairly nice cars and also see at all the stores, restaurants, parks etc. with all the trappings of the middle class to upper middle class. they're all over the place all the time. working age, often with small children. seriously, please tell me who they are. it's much, much more than 1% and they don't fit into your three groups. i really want to know because i cannot figure it out. thanks.

Bewert said...

Buster, you are one dark dude.

On the incentives:

"But the state’s chief business recruiter said Wednesday that the benefits from VW’s $1 billion assembly plant far will exceed what could top $500 million in government assistance and tax breaks for the project."

Source: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/jul/24/chattanooga-vw-incentives-largest-state/

I like this part of that article:

Mr. CanagaRetna said what strikes him as different about Chattanooga and Volkswagen is the Enterprise South industrial park site.

“It’s a little unusual that the locals are so far down the road in having a site ready to go,” he said.

The city of Chattanooga and Hamilton County spent nearly two decades acquiring, cleaning up and redeveloping the former Volunteer Army Ammunition Plant into Enterprise South, where VW will build its plant.


It's a 1550 acre site. And our fuckups are pissing away a 1500 acre site we got for a buck.

Unbelievable.

But on the other side, "$81 million--Value of property being given to VW" is ugly.

So, what's the answer?

Bewert said...

Folks, I don't know WTF is up this week, but we're closing in on 400 comments. Check that "Newer" link.

Bewert said...

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