tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post7607266630233411718..comments2023-07-07T00:32:17.629-07:00Comments on BendBubble2: Duncan McGeary - Genius For MayorUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-48565312645645418382007-06-18T11:06:00.000-07:002007-06-18T11:06:00.000-07:00The person you're dissing could be rich, poor, tal...<B>The person you're dissing could be rich, poor, tall, short, fat, skinny, Jewish, Lutheran, male, female, skier, snowboarder, etc. Does it matter?</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, it matters snow-boarders have destroyed the mtn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-35016654897073123542007-06-18T10:00:00.000-07:002007-06-18T10:00:00.000-07:00Portland 46% overvalued. Here is the link. There's...Portland 46% overvalued. Here is the link. There's a great interactive graph showing Bend 25% undervalued in 1987, catching up in the 1990s, then going nuts the last two years.<BR/><BR/>http://www.nationalcity.com/corporate/EconomicInsight/HousingValuation/default.asp?WT.mc_id=100206Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-51821347416095861842007-06-18T09:53:00.000-07:002007-06-18T09:53:00.000-07:00I wonder if the second one is Portland, or Prescot...I wonder if the second one is Portland, or Prescott-AZ ???<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's definitely Prescott, Az. I used to live in Phx. Prescott has a very similiar run up in real estate prices due to an influx of Californians, speculators, and the like. I would also say the job situation is maybe slightly better than Bend but not much. You could drive to Phoenix if you had to for work. You're not out in the middle of nowhere like Bend. Flagstaff is also very similar to Bend except they have a fairly large University. Former logging town, not a ton of other industry besides tourism/service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-81783551463009653702007-06-18T09:26:00.000-07:002007-06-18T09:26:00.000-07:00The Prescott is in Arizona; the OR is a typo - not...The Prescott is in Arizona; the OR is a typo - not everyone has lots of time to edit. Portland is NOT #2, Prescott, AZ is; the list of top 10 are at the link provided above. Portland's in there somewhere; I'll go see where. That is somewhat of importance to Bend if Portland is a big pool of potential buyers. Now for the SW Portland report: Construction has slowed, but not stopped; in fact, it appears to have restarted a bit. I am seeing more For Rent signs and more FSBO signs. Things that are priced too high just sit and sit (nothing new there, but they don't get the message). The day labor site I drive by each day has about 1/2 the number of people there, or less, than last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-90922977023239211692007-06-18T08:50:00.000-07:002007-06-18T08:50:00.000-07:00"you don't know who you're dealing with". Are you ...<B>"you don't know who you're dealing with". Are you kidding me? You don't know who you're dealing with. I don't give a shit how much money you have, anybody who would say that must have a tiny wee wee. What a prick.</B><BR/><BR/>The fact is that nobody knows who they're dealing with on this blog. The person you're dissing could be rich, poor, tall, short, fat, skinny, Jewish, Lutheran, male, female, skier, snowboarder, etc. Does it matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-65067843592095364392007-06-18T08:49:00.000-07:002007-06-18T08:49:00.000-07:00Our little adolescent poster has a consistent them...Our <B>little adolescent poster</B> has a consistent theme IT picks one little line out of context like Bem's comment on tips "Didn't get enough tips tonight", ... and our LAP goes on a hostile one line tirade, until IT finds a new theme.<BR/><BR/>Had you bothered to READ this blog-site you would know that for MOST of the bends history, TIPS is how people survive in this town. Fer instance I know guys & gals here that made near $60k/yr on TIPS, but then in 2001 when the bubble started they got into moving-furniture or some other RE racket. This is why BEM mentions TIPS, and the rest of us, because forever in BEND tourists dropping TIPS is how folks paid the bills. Chances are if you live in Bend, you make your money on tips.<BR/><BR/>Now, WRT to your question, had you FUCKING bothered to read, rather than cut&paste quotes, you would KNOW that the reason I like this analogy is that it is MOST sacred to MOST decent human folk. The people who are fucking up Bend are these kind of people, they are the kind of people who will whore their wives and children.<BR/><BR/><BR/>This is an important subject, because in my experience in politics for MOST instances where people have 'loved-ones' this is the "achilles heel". Given that this thread is on POLITICS, and IHTBYB has NOT yet moved on to the bend-bubble I guess we can keep discussing poly-ticks.<BR/><BR/>I think Duncan has formally closed his campaign. Thus this horse is dead, the only person who can survive in politics is a person, who has nothing, feels nothing, loves nothing, and cares for nobody except himself. That said there are lots of these types running Bend, on the positive side they currently have a negative net-worthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-13927142895950883082007-06-18T08:33:00.000-07:002007-06-18T08:33:00.000-07:00I'm just interested Bendbust, did you at some poin...I'm just interested Bendbust, did you at some point in your life have a problem with whoring your wife or children out? You sure do have a pre-occupation towards those examples. It's a tad creepy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-5994716920996750352007-06-18T08:24:00.000-07:002007-06-18T08:24:00.000-07:00Bem, Do you notice that its just one person here t...Bem, <BR/><BR/>Do you notice that its just one person here that goes from personal attacks from on author to another.<BR/><BR/>Remember this is the typical game, they cannot argue the law or the facts, and thus MUST attack on a personal basis.<BR/><BR/>Just stay focussed on the facts, and keep up the work, and ignore the personal attackers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-17406091437044775472007-06-18T08:19:00.000-07:002007-06-18T08:19:00.000-07:00That's right, why don't you just LIVE in Bend. Jus...<B>That's right, why don't you just LIVE in Bend. Just live. Enjoy. Focus on your career, your family, your health. No need to go around promoting, hustling, slanging, what have you.</B><BR/><BR/>Thank you BEM, this is exactly my feeling. I too love Bend, been here for forty years.<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of the guy who likes his GIRL-FREIND SO MUCH he wants everyone in town to sleep with her, so they too can know what he has. Of course this is crazy, but such people exist.<BR/><BR/>Bend is-was NEVER Aspen, bend is just a nice little place to hike, fish, camp, off-road, jog. Its NEVER been a place to GET-RICH, its NEVER been a place to get-a-good-job. It's always been just a place of trade-offs. Like has been mentioned many times here generally folks that work in Bend put in MORE hours for less money than Willamette-Valley.<BR/><BR/>The desert of course has a way of taking care of these people, now that its NATIONAL news that Bend is 78% over-valued, does ANYONE seriously think that any appraisal is going to come close to what they need, even with 20% down??<BR/><BR/>I think the real issue here is these people who 'love' bend, and have to tell us about it, actually hate the desert, thus they promote it so they can cover it with strip-malls, and the old-mill, and turn the deschutes canyon into CONDO corridor. Promotion is all they know. They'll whore they're wives and children. Nothing is sacred, and thus because they hold nothing sacred, everyone else MUST in their minds play the same game.<BR/><BR/>Thus its full circle, its impossible to do as BEM says "Just live. Enjoy. Focus on your career, your family, your health." Because the ONLY thing these people ENJOY is seeing things destroyed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-6969601138800879702007-06-17T23:44:00.000-07:002007-06-17T23:44:00.000-07:00I believe in this town.Great. Another true believ...<I>I believe in this town.</I><BR/><BR/>Great. Another true believer. If you wish real hard, and close your eyes to all the facts, and spout your mouth off every chance you get, it just might come true!<BR/><BR/>I don't understand why those who "believe in Bend" feel like they've got to make sure Bend is considered a desirable hotspot where everyone aspires to live.<BR/><BR/>Why don't you take your BELIEVE and subtract the BEE.<BR/><BR/>That's right, why don't you just LIVE in Bend. Just live. Enjoy. Focus on your career, your family, your health. No need to go around promoting, hustling, slanging, what have you.Bend Economy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444426668314688251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-11932722608399858662007-06-17T22:32:00.000-07:002007-06-17T22:32:00.000-07:00Whatever you want to say about Dallas, wealth-wise...<B>Whatever you want to say about Dallas, wealth-wise it's worlds ahead of Bend. ... Maybe you need to get out of town a couple times a year, if you can afford it.</B><BR/><BR/>BEM sure is getting touchy. Maybe he needs to get out of town for a while. I hear the weather is delightful in Dallas this time of year, but I haven't heard much about the mountain biking and hiking and kayaking there. ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-57978621162493813822007-06-17T21:38:00.000-07:002007-06-17T21:38:00.000-07:00I think it was Von-Clauswitz, the greatest war the...I think it was Von-Clauswitz, the greatest war theorist of all time.<BR/><BR/>"Politics" - Definition - "That which we do, when we aren't killing one another"<BR/><BR/>Politics is what people do when there is NO war. All law is created during the aftermath of a war. Right now the best lawyers that money can buy, are over in Iraq & Afghanistan writing NEW laws for those people. We will load their courts with OUR people, and in time we'll no long have to occupy. They will become a self-sustaining 'democracy'.<BR/><BR/>The USA broke away from england, and 'laws' were created in an aftermath of war. The courts were loaded with the well-connected, and in time the system became self perpetuating.Mrs Sally Heatherton Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03308845806362377942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-64234749975390573422007-06-17T21:26:00.000-07:002007-06-17T21:26:00.000-07:00Politics being the art of compromise and all. - du...<B>Politics being the art of compromise and all. - duncan</B><BR/><BR/>I have been involved with politics for 30-40 years, and I have always struggled with this notion. Here is my analogy.<BR/><BR/>A constituent wants to sleep with your 12 year old daughter what do you do?<BR/><BR/>1.) Let him sleep near her { aka michael jackson }<BR/>2.) Let him touch & give a little kiss { friendly constituent }<BR/>3.) Let him have a sleep-over<BR/>4.) Tell him to go to hell<BR/>5.) Terminate him<BR/><BR/>There is a continuum once you enter the area of 'compromise', but often many things are non-negotiable, just as my analogy above, for MANY people their children are NON-NEGOTIABLE, but then many social value flexible people 'might' tolerate the michael-jackson sleep over.<BR/><BR/>Where do YOU do draw the line on compromise? Certainly if your only dealing with the typical issue of stealing other people's money, then political compromise is straight-forward. <BR/><BR/>But once you enter the home and the family many of us are ABSOLUTISTS. THERE WILL BE NO COMPROMISE.<BR/><BR/>p.s. I know my analogy may offend some, but the point being made is there are some sacred things in this world.Mrs Sally Heatherton Esqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03308845806362377942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-25302178214907697892007-06-17T21:11:00.000-07:002007-06-17T21:11:00.000-07:00"you don't know who you're dealing with". Are you ..."you don't know who you're dealing with". Are you kidding me? You don't know who you're dealing with. I don't give a shit how much money you have, anybody who would say that must have a tiny wee wee. What a prick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-6795705898674672442007-06-17T21:02:00.000-07:002007-06-17T21:02:00.000-07:00duncan said:"I see it as a manifestation that we a...duncan said:<BR/>"I see it as a manifestation that we all wish some person could get elected, without an agenda, who was willing to say hard things. But no one who is that forthright could, and maybe they shouldn't. Politics being the art of compromise and all. "<BR/>----------<BR/><BR/>Well said. I was just that person... no agenda, asking the tough questions of everybody (regardless of Point Of View), stepping on toes regardless of who they belonged to. Not PC, not diplomatic, and no ego to boot (if I was wrong, I'd admit it and go on). <BR/><BR/>This last election, I got voted out big time. I was very disappointed that I did not win re-election...NOT! <BR/><BR/>20+ hrs/week, a thankless job, lotsa c$&p, suffering fools and idiots as colleagues, no/low pay. Who needs it? Mostly the lower echelon of people, or people without a life. I am glad to move on. I did my service, and now am more than glad to let somebody else put in their service to the community.<BR/><BR/>Run away Duncan, it ain't worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-13803479615869403542007-06-17T21:00:00.000-07:002007-06-17T21:00:00.000-07:00Ooh , you don't know who you're dealing with. I am...Ooh , you don't know who you're dealing with. I am completely impressed. You must be a real bigshot. Hey bend economy man, you had better realize who you're dealing with. Give me a freakin' break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-58821813382796455232007-06-17T18:19:00.000-07:002007-06-17T18:19:00.000-07:00"Maybe you need to get out of town a couple times ..."Maybe you need to get out of town a couple times a year, if you can afford it. Hopefully customers tipped you well this weekend."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, you don't know who you are dealing with. <BR/><BR/>I tipped well this weekend, because I can well afford it. And I believe in this town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-41887231396074945572007-06-17T14:47:00.000-07:002007-06-17T14:47:00.000-07:00I wonder if the second one is Portland, or Prescot...<B>I wonder if the second one is Portland, or Prescott-AZ ???</B><BR/><BR/>To show you how astute CNN Money is they reported #2 as "Prescott, OR".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-25021254693270839392007-06-17T14:08:00.000-07:002007-06-17T14:08:00.000-07:00On Saturday afternoon CNN Money reported that Bend...On Saturday afternoon CNN Money reported that Bend has been rated the most overvalued housing market in the USA: 78%!!<BR/><BR/>Over-priced housing - CNN<BR/>Bend OR $324,400 78.7%<BR/><BR/>Prescott OR $246,600 64.6%<BR/><BR/>*<BR/><BR/>I wonder if the second one is Portland, or Prescott-AZ ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-83908997709854515262007-06-17T13:56:00.000-07:002007-06-17T13:56:00.000-07:00I don't take this in the least bit seriously. I'd ...<B><BR/>I don't take this in the least bit seriously. I'd be a horrible politician, really, really horrible. - duncan<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>I wasn't sure, I have always seen this group as the Simpsons, and you being the nice guy { flanders }, and I want to be Bart. Everyone else has to figure out who they are.<BR/><BR/>I think your making a wise decision. In my years having known a lot of poly-tick-ians { many-blood-suckers } I have noted, that most are un-employable. H.L.Mencken said it best, but that's another story. You have made it 27 years, and I doubt your biz could survive if you jumped on another 12-hr/day job.<BR/><BR/>At least the other's gave a vote of confidence. So I guess its official we all don't have to ante $100 or more to Duncan's campaign fund via paypal.<BR/><BR/>There are some that have done this just for the record, Bud-Clark of PDX { finest-rubens on the planet }, ran for mayor, because his PBR buddy's at the pub thought he could do just well. Sort of like this group supporting you, and bud was a fine mayor for two terms. That said I know what he went through, the food inspectors & OLCC{ state/county } were micro-analyzing his biz { goose-hollow } every time they had a chance. I think that's what finally got him out of politics and he stayed out. Your really have to have NOTHING to lose, because they'll find your 'soft-spot' and push hard to control you, especially if you were like bud who tried to change the way the 'cop-shop' did business.<BR/><BR/>By this I mean, one of his pet peeves was to NEVER call the cops, because when he did, all they did is come over and beat-up his customers, which is bad for business. As mayor he tried to change the way they did biz, he fired the police chief, but not much changed. <BR/><BR/>I think Bend is similar there is a systemic cruise-control, folks are used to doing things, and change is very hard.<BR/><BR/>Bud-Clarke had been angry about what they had done to PDX, and he did make a lot of changes.<BR/><BR/>I'm certain if you wanted it you could have it, NEVER underestimate the power of a dozen people committed to a project, especially when they're working for FREE.<BR/><BR/>Given that you only have a book shop, I'm not sure how bad 'they' could squeeze you to control you. But I certainly do agree with you, life is SHORT and that little time we have when we're NOT WORKING should be spent doing something you love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-25816632037298919962007-06-17T13:37:00.000-07:002007-06-17T13:37:00.000-07:00Who in their right mind wants to live in Wichita?T...<I>Who in their right mind wants to live in Wichita?</I><BR/><BR/>The minority of people who live in Bend and are in a good financial position are truly blessed. <BR/><BR/>But who in their right mind would take a low-paying job s/he's overqualified for, barely able to make ends meet now (let alone planning for the future), just to live somewhere where others "aspire to live"? <BR/><BR/>Whatever you want to say about Dallas, wealth-wise it's worlds ahead of Bend. <BR/><BR/>And whatever you and your ilk want to say about how irresistible Bend is, truth is that home sales have fallen off a cliff to decade lows and tourism peaked a couple years ago. So--news flash--desire has its limits. Maybe you need to get out of town a couple times a year, if you can afford it. Hopefully customers tipped you well this weekend.Bend Economy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444426668314688251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-13186063358004255712007-06-17T12:26:00.000-07:002007-06-17T12:26:00.000-07:00Most of the undervalued places are places no one a...Most of the undervalued places are places no one aspires to live. Who in their right mind wants to live in Wichita? Bend prices are too high but if you notice so is Flagstaff, which I would consider a more similar, nice place to live. I guarantee people aren't going to start packing their bags for Dallas unless they really don't care where they live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-3642229433353859302007-06-17T10:43:00.000-07:002007-06-17T10:43:00.000-07:00I agree with BendBust that this has been fun but i...I agree with BendBust that this has been fun but it's time to open up a new econ post.<BR/><BR/>On Saturday afternoon <A HREF="http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/14/real_estate/housing_market_affordability/index.htm?cnn=yes" REL="nofollow">CNN Money reported that Bend has been rated the most overvalued housing market in the USA</A>: <B>78</B>%!! <BR/><BR/>Think the local media will pick that up?Bend Economy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444426668314688251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-49805475065432026462007-06-17T08:27:00.000-07:002007-06-17T08:27:00.000-07:00Sorry, Bendbust, didn't mean to step on your messa...Sorry, Bendbust, didn't mean to step on your message.<BR/><BR/>I haven't posted anonymously -- yet. Can't promise I never will, though.<BR/><BR/>I don't take this in the least bit seriously. I'd be a horrible politician, really, really horrible. <BR/><BR/>I see it as a manifestation that we all wish some person could get elected, without an agenda, who was willing to say hard things. But no one who is that forthright could, and maybe they shouldn't. Politics being the art of compromise and all. <BR/><BR/>Besides, I don't think us bloggers have that much influence, whatever we might like to think.<BR/><BR/>And yeah, if I could free up time from my business, I'd be sitting on the beach.<BR/><BR/>Whatever you might want to think about politicians,at least they are committing the time. Watching the city council on T.V., it's pretty clear they all have do a bunch of homework.Duncan McGearyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02857388833850939721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3449433527135568372.post-4360371342899867332007-06-17T08:17:00.000-07:002007-06-17T08:17:00.000-07:00Duncan McGeary -- Zombie for MayorBraaaaaiins........Duncan McGeary -- Zombie for Mayor<BR/><BR/>Braaaaaiins.....! Must eat brainssssss....!Duncan McGearyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02857388833850939721noreply@blogger.com